From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #676 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, December 30 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 676 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Best of the year SJC [Joseph Palis ] Peter Asher NJC [Joseph Palis ] Re: my own private tornado NJC [catman ] Re: The Court and Spark [philipf@tinet.ie] Re: Peter Asher NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Best of the year SJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] JONI on Bravo? ["kerry" ] Joni's First TV Appearance? [James Leahy ] James Taylor Bio [James Leahy ] Re: JONI on Bravo? [FMYFL@aol.com] I'm Late! (njc) [Alison E ] re:Joni songs regarding people [Alison E ] Mingus ["cassy" ] Video Tree from JMDL ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Joni's TV Guide award nomination announced [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Emmylou Harris: Gritty, harsh, ripping sound?,,, NJC ["Jim L'Hommedi] Steely Dan Passed Over Again, NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Video Tree from JMDL [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni-mentions in latest RS [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re[2]: JONI on Bravo? [RAVEN@igc.org] "a mouth like yours" ["Kate Bennett" ] Feliciano, Ronne Blakely [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: Feliciano, Ronne Blakely ["Diane Evans" ] Alternate Blue/Welcome [Michael Paz ] Re: Emmylou Harris: Gritty, harsh, ripping sound?,,, NJC [Michael Paz ] winterizing oneself NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Steely Dan Passed Over Again, NJC ["Mark or Travis" ] not worth a mention NJC [catman ] Re: Steely Dan Passed Over Again, NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #675 [BRYAN8847@aol.com] RE: Steely Dan Passed Over Again, NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Best of the year SJC a joyous "pasko" to all and a meaningful "bagong taon". my 5 best cds purchased this year (not necessarily released this year) 1) Gil Shaham - The Fiddler of the Opera Virtuoso violin-playing. Transcribing arias for the violin and piano can be daunting if not open to critical scrutiny from the discerning opera lovers who want re-interpretation of classical pieces to be just that -- reinterpretation. Shaham moves with seamless grace and power from Bizet to Gershwin and gave new spins to operatic arias through his violin that seems to really "sing". 2) Joni Mitchell - Both Sides Now A standards album from a genius. Especially liked the Wagnerian start of the first song and how her version of ACOY moved me to tears. Her voice is even more appealing now for me than ever. A desert-island for all time. Did I say I am a fan? 3) Steve Tyrell - A New Standard A different way of singing the standards -- none of the smooth and glistening vocals (which I like to hear) but a voice that seems a bit out of place (anachronistic?). But the right amount of pain and experience and sincerity are all there that makes this very beautiful. Even more beautiful after several listens. 4) Paula West - Restless This woman is one more talent deserving wider recognition, for how could such a voice not delight? Maybe its best she is not that famous yet so that I can always recommend her to people and them telling me, "how did you find out about this singular talent?" Vocally, she sounds like a limber and less cloudy Cassandra Wilson. She not only makes songs like "Cow Cow Boogie" sound exciting but possesses the monumental confidence to sing songs in a different tempo than were traditionally sung. 5) Audra McDonald - How Glory Goes This woman blew me away with her voice and ability to inhabit a song. The orchestration in the album makes one remember very very tender moments so fragile its best listened to when lights are dim inorder not to expose it to harsher light and hence, diminish its beauty. Its rare for me to listen to a soprano voice best suited for operatic repertoire, sing non bel canto songs. But this is no ordinary mortal. Magic comes close to describing her. top five best films I watched this year (not in particular order) 1) Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon I have never seen such visual feasts before. Of special mention were the flying fight scenes of Michelle Yeoh and Zang Zi Yi. The story is part of the legend in Western China about warriors and the magic they spun when fighting. Highly recommended. Even for those who do not like martial arts films, this will delight you. It may even make a fan of you. (I watched the Chinese version and I am not sure what version they will release in the US and the UK). 2) Billy Elliot Another dance movie about an English boy wanting to be a ballet dancer in a mining town where such artistic pursuits are met with jeers, disgust and even physical cruelties. Its rare to find a film where all performers are consistently good and do not try to outdo one another. Even the grandmother role, minor though it may be, had some really really powerful moments, which is just like the film -- unpretentious and full of heart. 3) Wonder Boys I like the idea of people being wonder boys then not live up to expectations when they reach a certain age (William H. Macy is perfection in MAGNOLIA for portraying that role). The acting were unhysterical and Frances McDormand shines in a supporting role. As did Tobey Maguire and Robert Downey. Michael Douglas is a professor who might be considered a "dead-wood" in academic parlance because of his inability to finish a novel, thereby sustaining his "wonder boy" image that did not live up to expectations. He finds solace in his student who is also a wonder boy and whose beautiful evocations of ideas in prose were matched by his compulsive lies. 4) Body Shot Did anyone watch this unassuming film that was shown this year but just as quietly disappeared? This looks like a teen-flick which many "mature" audience make a point to avoid, but is actually an insightful look into the relationship of 20something and the politics of love and sex. One incident changed their lives and forever. The last scene with Sean Patrick Flannery and Amanda Peet in bed while Me'shell Ndegeocello is crooning "Beautiful" has got to be one of most unforgettable scenes to me, made even more memorable by what they eventually decided to do. They say people don't make these films anymore, but when they are made, nobody watched them. 5) High Fidelity If only to hear Joni's name being mentioned like an institution is enough reason to watch this film. I like John Cusack, his acting, his characterization and the innate goofiness he brings to his screen performances. There's just so many memorable performances, from Catherine Zeta Jones to Tim Robbins to Lili Taylor to Joan Cusack to Jack Black. Plus, the occasional rumination aimed at the audience always makes me smile. ... and honorable mention to: 6) Duets Most people I know don't like Gwyneth Paltrow (they still can't get over the fact that she won the Oscar over Cate Blanchett or Fernanda Montenegro) and don't care about her films. I watched this film because its about karaoke-loving people whose lives connect in the end (very Robert Altman) and karaokes are big in the Philippines not only because a Filipino recently won the patent rights to it but because we as a race love to sing (often with disastrous results). The singing was mostly pleasant, most especially by the lovely Maria Bello (COYOTE UGLY) who belted a heart-rending "I Can't Make You Love Me". Despite some weak character development, I was thoroughly engaged by the film and at least made me a fan of Maria Bello. Gwyneth makes you forget she won a award here. Am eagerly awaiting the release of QUILLS... Joseph in Manila experiencing northeast monsoon PS. Happy birthday Wally! You always make me laugh with your exclamation points!!!!!!! PPS. Bob, you made me smile at your parody. Its worth publishing. Can I read it to friends here and claim that I wrote it (wink?). Naahh, they won't believe I am capable of writing that gem! Maligayang Pasko sa `yo! PPPS. see you all next year... or is it "see you all next millennium"? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 15:38:32 +0800 (PHT) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Peter Asher NJC > P.S. Peter Asher sure has had a full career. I have a hunch his management is this the same Peter Asher who produced the albums of 10,000 Maniacs during Natalie Merchant's time? if he is, I especially liked the Maniacs' BLIND MAN'S ZOO album -- easily the group's high-minded album but a commercial flop. haven't heard how Mary Ramsey is taking Merchant's shoes as vocalist, even more so that Rob Buck's dead. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 10:41:45 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: my own private tornado NJC > and the building DID suffer serious damage!!!! incredible as it may sound, > my birthday was heralded by a tornado that hit buenos aires on the 26th and > reached its highest peak at midnight! do admit!!! maybe I should document my dreams more often! Here is is finally cold(-7 last night) and we have snow. I love snow-makes evrything so beautiful. Not as much or as cold as it was in New England back in April 97 but still....(you can tell I loved that trip cos I still go on about it almost 4 years later.) You know, a friend came up with something that didn't occur to me at the time-I was driving around on my own, thru back roads and mountains, miles from anywhere, in the freezing cold and snow and I had no mobile phone. Imagine if the car had broken down? Never occurred to me that anything would happen. next time I'll take food, warm clothes and hire a mobile phone! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:40:11 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: The Court and Spark Hi there country cousins, I got a reply about where they got the name from The Court And Spark. Philip - ----- Original Message ----- From: mc taylor To: Sent: 29 December 2000 00:37 Subject: Re: Court and Spark > Hi Philip. Thank you for writing. You must have the Glitterhouse version of > the disc then, as opposed to the U.S. Tumult Recs version. Our name is an > old phrase that my grandmother used to describe a relationship. The > courtship, and if we're lucky, the spark. I don't know if you had already > received a reply to this mail but stay tuned for more music. A record by a > collective known as Boxharp, featuring members of The Court and Spark, > Tarnation, The Breeders, the Oranj Symphonette, and many others, and the > second Court and Spark record, which, if everything turns out as planned > (we're about halfway done) should knock everybody on their stoned ears. > Thanks again for writing. > > M.C. Taylor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 09:19:16 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Peter Asher NJC << is this the same Peter Asher who produced the albums of 10,000 Maniacs during Natalie Merchant's time? >> Yes, and the same one who produced some of Linda Ronstadt's best work... Bob NP: Rolling Stones, "Rocks Off" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 09:27:53 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Best of the year SJC << Can I read it to friends here and claim that I wrote it (wink?). >> Not a problem, Joseph, you can translate it to Filipino and call it your own! :~) Hey, btw, thanks for your great list - I love it when a list is accompanied by some detail telling why it was a favorite! And speaking of lists, I've been busy this week researching more covers just waiting to be plucked! If you're interested in helping with the project, just have a gander at the JMDL site and go shopping, or check your own collection! You can earn free covers CDs in the process! Here's the URL: http://www.jmdl.com/covers/needed.cfm Happy hunting! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 09:05:17 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: JONI on Bravo? >>My husband and I fell asleep with the TV on last night and when I awoke before dark (not sure exactly when) the Bravo station was on. All I could make out was Joni's Turbulent Indigo painting and they were playing the BSN version of Clouds. Does anyone know what this was and whether they will be re-airing it. >> When we were in Saskatoon, we kept running into the same two person film crew and I believe Rick asked them where they were from. They said they were filming for Bravo. They couldn't tell us what times they would be showing the Joni footage, only that it would appear when there was extra time between movies. I had forgotten about that, until now! Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 10:18:20 -0500 From: James Leahy Subject: Joni's First TV Appearance? I was watching Toronto's CFTO TV last night. They're celebrating their 30th anniversary and had some old clips from the sixties. When they mentioned their "After Four" show, which was designed for young people, they said that Joni Mitchell made her first TV appearance on that show. They showed a clip of Joni spreading open her dress to reveal a huge colourful print -- sort of Joni's Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. The clip was probably from 1967. This was truly remarkable. I had never heard of her appearance on this show. They also mentioned a B&W folk music show called Let's Sing Out, which I know Joni appeared on (I believe audio tapes of this are circulating). Jim NP: John Rutter, "What Sweeter Music" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 10:22:18 -0500 From: James Leahy Subject: James Taylor Bio Forgive me if I'm repeating old news. I saw a new bio of James Taylor at Chapters bookstore the other day. There's a whole chapter on Joni. It reveals among other things that Joni was really into drugs, was awesome in bed, and was rather disturbed woman. I've also mentioned this before, but figure skater Toller Cranston has yet another book of memoirs out called "When Hell Freezes Over." It includes a whole chapter on his experience of the Hejira photo shoot and of a party he attended at Joni's. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 10:36:00 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: JONI on Bravo? In a message dated 12/29/00 10:10:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, myrtlmoo@ticon.net writes: << When we were in Saskatoon, we kept running into the same two person film crew and I believe Rick asked them where they were from. They said they were filming for Bravo. >> You're right Kerry! I remember David Mingus telling me that when he was in Saskatoon, Bravo had interviewed him in front of the Mendel Gallery. I'll have to ask him about it when I get back home. If anyone knows if and when this might be shown again, PLEASE post it to the list. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 07:47:12 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: I'm Late! (njc) Nope, not pregnant, just late in wishing Wally a very FUCKING happy birthday! (yes, patrick, it really is much better with that k!) anyhow, i have been out of town, and today is my first day back to work and email, so i will send my very best wishes and love to Wally on his majestical 40th birthday. lucky you to celebrate with a tornado! how strange is that? god must be trying to get your attention, you sinner! ;-) i hope to see you soon here in the big fat COLD apple. (as we brace for a "major storm with blizzard conditions" yeah! jimmy, please please send for me!) love and kisses, alison e. in nyc n.p. david gray (one of the best cd's of this year, i think. i absolutely love it.) Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 07:55:16 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: re:Joni songs regarding people - --- "J.David Sapp" wrote: > How about Strange Boy? I've rediscovered this song > recently - much more > adventurous than I first realized. this is the most powerful and personal joni song for me, and quite probably my favorite joni song if that is at all possible (yeah, i know it's not possible to pick one, really). has to do with an ex. obviously. if i am in the proper mood, it will always make me cry. "what a strange, strange boy i gave him clothes and jewelry i gave him my warm body i gave him power over me...." alison e. in nyc not that i'm a control freak or anything, it's just that i love to sing these lines at the very top of my voice! it's so liberating! Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 09:02:58 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Mingus FYI while looking for a possible re-broadcast of the "Arts & Minds" show I came upon the following: Saturday, December 30, 2000 6:00 AM Bravo Profiles: Charles Mingus (60 min.) Triumph of the Underdog - Using a wealthy of newly-discovered or rarely-seen film clips, photographs, radio broadcasts and private interviews, this exclusive profile offers a multi-faceted portrait of the extraordinarily talented and complex jazz bassist. Perhaps there will be some reference to the "Mingus" recording or to Joni. I know I will be setting the VCR. Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:42:23 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Video Tree from JMDL Christopher, Rest assured that the JMDL video tree #2 is still available. I'll contact you off-list to provide details. BTW, if you want the JMDL video Tree #1 (from October 97), I can make a copy of that too. Both are available (from me) to US residents only. Also available free- the TNT All Star Tribute To Joni Mitchell either on VHS video tape or as Simon's wonderful audience recording on cassette. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:13:08 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Joni's TV Guide award nomination announced According to an article at http://www.vny.com/cf/news/upidetail.cfm?QID=148034, "An All- Star Tribute to Joni MItchell" has been nominated for Music Special of the Year. Other nominees are listed below: Christina Aguilera -- My Reflection Marc Anthony: The Concert from MSG Britney in Hawaii Dixie Chicks: On the Fly Gloria Estefan, Caribbean Soul: The Atlantis Concert Faith! Elton John -- Greatest Hits Live 'N Sync Live from Madison Square Garden 'N Sync 'Ntimate Holiday Special A Supernatural Evening with Santana VH1 Divas 2000: A Tribute to Diana Ross Doesn't look like much competition to me . . . --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:34:33 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Emmylou Harris: Gritty, harsh, ripping sound?,,, NJC I've found that "Red Dirt Girl" can easily be enjoyed at background level. I put it on so I can just hear it above the rushing of the PC's fan. The mood, melody, production washes and her unique voice are fully evident. It's probably also fine in the car. (I still have no idea about lyrics and story however.) I just won't try to hear "into" the soundstage on the big stereo. For that, I'll pull out an LP of side two of Abbey Road. I am not a Luddite. I am not a Luddite. I am not a Luddite. I am not a Luddite. I am not a Luddite. Lamadoo PS- Thanks to whomever posted the JMDL-year-in-review post. What a roller coaster ride this year! npimh: "Presto obligato tonto mucho cake and eat it carthon..... mean mister mustard sleeps in the park shaves in the dark tryin' to save paper." Or was John saying Quando paramucho mi amore defelice corazon Mundo pararazzi mi amore chicka ferdy parasol Cuesto obrigado tanta mucho que can eat it carousel. (?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 13:41:40 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Steely Dan Passed Over Again, NJC The fine folks in Charge at the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, in their wisdom, have passed over Walter and Donald again this year. Thank God they recognize that Walter and Donald are mere poseurs who know nothing of humor, incisive lyrics, or quirky characters. Furthermore, Steely Dan has consistently shown they know nothing of funk, sophisticated musical interplay, jazz, or technical virtuosity. Unlike their peers, they also have consistently shown a brazen disregard for how the music is actually captured/reproduced. In fairness, Mister Fagan and Mister Becker DO seem to fully appreciate irony and sarcasm when they see it. :) Mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore, Jim L'Hommedieu PS- I say we break Wenner's legs! Who's with me? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 13:43:44 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Video Tree from JMDL << Also available free- the TNT All Star Tribute To Joni Mitchell either on VHS video tape or as Simon's wonderful audience recording on cassette. >> Also available on CD! Only I don't say it's free, unless you can figure out a way to defraud the Post Office and steal a blank CD! :~) Bob, who wishes he had a quarter for every TNT CD he's burned this year... NP: Brian Kennedy, "A Case of You" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 13:49:17 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Joni-mentions in latest RS Time was, I used to get Rolling Stone and absorb it cover to cover...now I'm done with it in about 30 minutes. Anyway, the latest one appeared today and had a couple of Joni mentions. Don Henley put BSN on his Top 5 for the year A letter to the editor nominated "Big Yellow Taxi" for one of the Top 100 singles of all-time. (Their issue of about a month ago listed the top 100 singles) Two mentions in one ish...not too shabby! But too bad that neither came from one of the rag's writers... Bob NP: Tori, "A Case of You" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:44:38 -0500 From: RAVEN@igc.org Subject: Re[2]: JONI on Bravo? At 10:36 12/29/2000, Jimmy wrote: >If anyone knows if and when this might be shown again, >PLEASE post it to the list. The "Arts & Minds" Joni-content episode recently described here was Wednesday (5:30am Eastern), and lists the next shows as Jan 01 (3pm), Jan 04 (3:30pm), Jan 07 (4:30pm), Jan 08 (5:30am) and Jan 11 (3:30pm). All times listed above are Eastern Time Zone. Note: Bravo does not list the content of "Arts & Minds" episodes, so it's possible that none of these will be about Joni. - -- RAVEN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:10:11 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: "a mouth like yours" it just hit me that maybe the line "she had a mouth like yours" is referring to how she talked, you know, as in the phrase mouthing off? just a random thought.... i also have always thought of this song being for JT somehow but the line "i drew a map of canada with your face sketched on it twice..." makes me think its about someone from canada (Neil Young?) ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:04:32 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Feliciano, Ronne Blakely I must have missed the revelation about Jose Feliciano being the "diamond dog, carrying a cup and a cane." And I think the "looking through a double glass, looking at too much pride and too much shame" might have to do with him not actually seeing, but wearing glasses and yet his 'sight' being introspective. The talk about Ronne Blakely has reminded me of a song she did called "Gabriel." Does anyone else remember it? It came out in the early to mid 70s. I'd always thought that "A Case of You" was about James Taylor. And I thought the woman "with a mouth like yours" was James' mother, who, as I've said before on the list, was quite fond of Joni. lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:51:36 -0500 From: "Diane Evans" Subject: Re: Feliciano, Ronne Blakely Anne, You wrote: >The talk about Ronne Blakely has reminded me of a song she did called >"Gabriel." Does anyone else remember it? It came out in the early to >mid >70s. I don't remember that song specifically; it's been so many years since I last listened to her music. I do remember going to hear her perform at a hotel bar (called, of all things, "Cock O the Walk") in Boise, Idaho. I think I still have her first album somewhere in the back of a closet.:-D Diane _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:28:10 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Alternate Blue/Welcome Ian Cropton wrote: > Time has a wonderful way of healing things, ... Hi Ian and welcome to the list. I suggest you check out Joni's alternate Blue and check out what she meant at first before changing her mind and recalling the record, shuffling the order, and taking out two tracks. Happy New Year! Michael (in New Orleans where certain JMDLers are rumored to be lurking about the French Quarter) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:28:05 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Emmylou Harris: Gritty, harsh, ripping sound?,,, NJC Jim You obviously put the cd in upside down. I think she sounds great on that record albeit different that Wrecking Ball. Paz on 12/27/00 2:51 PM, Jim L'Hommedieu at jlamadoo@home.com wrote: > Well I put on my brand new copy of "Red Dirt Girl" six minutes ago. I took > it off after 5 minutes of torture. This recording features a harsh, gritty, > ripping sound in place of Emmylou's voice. I couldn't take it. In fact, I > don't believe her voice sounds like that. I never heard ANY voice sound > like that. It sounds just like a glass cutting blade scrapping, ripping > across a sheet of glass. Please tell me that I got a bad disc. Does anyone > have this recording? Does anyone have it on vinyl? Is this just a good > example of CD's limitations? > > My previous examples of Emmylou's wonderful voice include "Quarter Moon in A > Ten Cent Town" (half speed mastered and on premium vinyl), and standard > issues on CD of "Spyboy" and "Wrecking Ball". Her wonderful voice was > fully evident on those titles. In short, what is up? > > Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 19:14:44 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Re: Joni's TV Guide award nomination announced > According to an article at > http://www.vny.com/cf/news/upidetail.cfm?QID=148034, "An All- Star Tribute to > Joni MItchell" has been nominated for Music Special of the Year. Other > nominees are listed below: Looks like we'll be able to vote on the winner too: The winners will be determined via ballots published in the Jan. 6 and Jan. 13 issues of TV Guide, or online at www.tvguide.com and through AOL (keyword "TV Guide"). The awards will be presented Feb. 24 at the Shrine Expo Center in Los Angeles. The show will be taped for airing March 7 on FOX-TV. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:06:17 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: I'm Late! (njc) a major storm with blizzard conditions!!!!! music to my ears.... love ya naughty utah thing!!!!!!!! wally - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Alison E Enviado el: Viernes, 29 de Diciembre de 2000 12:47 p.m. Para: Wally Kairuz CC: joni@smoe.org Asunto: I'm Late! (njc) Nope, not pregnant, just late in wishing Wally a very FUCKING happy birthday! (yes, patrick, it really is much better with that k!) anyhow, i have been out of town, and today is my first day back to work and email, so i will send my very best wishes and love to Wally on his majestical 40th birthday. lucky you to celebrate with a tornado! how strange is that? god must be trying to get your attention, you sinner! ;-) i hope to see you soon here in the big fat COLD apple. (as we brace for a "major storm with blizzard conditions" yeah! jimmy, please please send for me!) love and kisses, alison e. in nyc n.p. david gray (one of the best cd's of this year, i think. i absolutely love it.) Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:39:22 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: winterizing oneself NJC well, of course you must, colin!!!! from central argentina southwards there are laws that mandate that drivers carry a ''winter kit'' when they'll be driving in colder areas: blankets, food, a special manual of instructions, etc.. you can get caught in a blizzard just like that! i learned this the hard way in mendoza [a western province] a few years ago. we were caught in a snowstorm for 22 hours!!!!!!!!! fortunately, my friend is quite the anal retentive, and we had all the requisites. never go for a long drive without your cell and your winter kit!!! wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: catman [mailto:colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk] Enviado el: Viernes, 29 de Diciembre de 2000 07:42 a.m. Para: Wally Kairuz CC: joni Asunto: Re: my own private tornado NJC You know, a friend came up with something that didn't occur to me at the time-I was driving around on my own, thru back roads and mountains, miles from anywhere, in the freezing cold and snow and I had no mobile phone. Imagine if the car had broken down? Never occurred to me that anything would happen. next time I'll take food, warm clothes and hire a mobile phone! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:35:32 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Steely Dan Passed Over Again, NJC > PS- I say we break Wenner's legs! Who's with me? As Bette Midler once said, 'Why bother?' 'what a lofty title for such a petty little tyrant' Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 01:45:36 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: winterizing oneself NJC Wally Kairuz wrote: > well, of course you must, colin!!!! from central argentina southwards there > are laws that mandate that drivers carry a ''winter kit'' when they'll be > driving in colder areas: blankets, food, a special manual of instructions, > etc.. you can get caught in a blizzard just like that! i learned this the > hard way in mendoza [a western province] a few years ago. we were caught in > a snowstorm for 22 hours!!!!!!!!! I had 12 hours in heavy snow in the Vermont mountains. It was scary but beautiful. I kept stopping to take photo's. Mind you I was only doing about 15-20mph. It really didn't occur to me the whole time I was there about getting stuck. i was much more worried about getting shot. Saw many big hairy men with shotguns, especially in the wilds of Maine. I am sure I mentioned before that when i frist arrived I saw armed policemen guarding roadworkers. 'shit!' I thought,' crime here must be really bad if they have to gaurd the roadworkers.' Later I found out that the roadworkers were a chaingang! > fortunately, my friend is quite the anal > retentive, and we had all the requisites. never go for a long drive without > your cell and your winter kit!!! > wallyK > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: catman [mailto:colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk] > Enviado el: Viernes, 29 de Diciembre de 2000 07:42 a.m. > Para: Wally Kairuz > CC: joni > Asunto: Re: my own private tornado NJC > > You know, a friend came up with something that didn't occur to me at the > time-I was > driving around on my own, thru back roads and mountains, miles from > anywhere, in the > freezing cold and snow and I had no mobile phone. Imagine if the car had > broken down? > Never occurred to me that anything would happen. next time I'll take food, > warm clothes > and hire a mobile phone! - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 02:04:53 +0000 From: catman Subject: not worth a mention NJC The thing that bothers me most about the free availablity of guns in the USA is that it seems that people have got so used to gun crime it doesn't rate a mention anymore. A few days ago 7 of your countrymen were shot and killed at work in Boston but it doesn't get mentioned here.(we mention all sorts of other NJC). If the man was not able to buy the guns, he wouldn't have been able to do what he did. It would have been very difficult to go in to work and stab seven people to death. If my memory serves me right, we have had two such massaacres here-Dunblane and another in the 80's. We have other murders and stabbings are common but only one at a time. I really cannot understand why anyone should have the legal right to go into a shop and buy a hand gun, let alone a machine gun! I cannot see how this has anything to do with 'human rights'. I think the right of people to be free of the constant threat of gunfire to be a greater right. the right of people not to be shot is greater than some fearful demand that anyone should be allowed to own a gun. How is this civilised? Seven DEAD people, countless grieving and damaged people, all for some cockeyed sense of 'rights'. Human life counts for so little. I know that a person's right to buy/own/carry a gun is worth far more than these dead people's lives. I know it is people who kill and not guns. It makes sense to enable these crimes doesn't it? Maybe we should be beome more civilised here and make it easy to slaughter a handful at a time. So much easier than knifing one at a time. - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:42:02 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Steely Dan Passed Over Again, NJC << As Bette Midler once said, 'Why bother?' >> Besides that, Steely Dan are in! They're not passed over! Congrats to Walter & Donald and all those great records! So Jann's legs are safe for another year! The inductees are as follows: Paul Simon (Simon & Garfunkel are already in) Aerosmith Michael Jackson (Jackson 5 are already in) Queen Steely Dan Ritchie Valens Solomon Burke The Flamingos Sidemen: James Burton (Elvis' guitarist) Johnnie Johnson (Chuck Berry's piano rocker) Non-Performer: Chris Blackwell (Island Records founder) Bob, who has seen 3 of the inductees in concert... NP: Luscious Jackson, "Naked Eye" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:57:04 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #675 The macrobiotic food and JM reference is really more about that common misconception of Joni as a peasant-skirted folksinger than anything else (the misconception that Joni has said she dislikes more than any of the others). As for the rest of it, I don't get the reference to domineering women (or care). Perhaps women with macrobiotic diets are domineering, darling. Fantom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 23:17:36 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: RE: Steely Dan Passed Over Again, NJC As we say in the Midwest, "Shit!" As usual, our little fact checker, Bob Mueller, is right! I think I better just stick to making videos and leave the sarcasm to Walter and Donald. :) Thanks Bob....... Again. > -----Original Message----- > From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com > Besides that, Steely Dan are in! They're not passed over! Lamadoo np: our college station's Friday night blues show. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #676 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?