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JMDL Digest        Saturday, December 9 2000        Volume 2000 : Number 647



The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be
found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news,
a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more.

The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains
interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more.
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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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  Re: Fw: First Time                 [catman <colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk>]
  JMDL Digest V2000 #646 ( -Reply)  ["Craig Waltress" <CPWALTRESS@us.fortis.]
  First Time again NJC               [catman <colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk>]
  virus                              [catman <colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk>]
  Re: Fw: First Time                         ["Megan" <megallen@citlink.net>]
  RE:  Happy Xmas (War is Over) NJC     ["Pitassi, Mary" <PitassiM@WEAC.org>]

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Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 02:50:02 +0000
From: catman <colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Fw: First Time

Megan wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Megan <megallen@citlink.net>
> To: catman <colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk>
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 5:51 PM
> Subject: Re: First Time
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: catman <colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk>
> > To: Don Rowe <dgrowe227@yahoo.com>
> > Cc: Megan <megallen@citlink.net>; <joni@smoe.org>
> > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 12:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: First Time
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Don Rowe wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- Megan <megallen@citlink.net> wrote:
> > > > > I actually really
> > > > > loved that album <DED> except for a few minor
> > > > points:
> > > > > 1) Wasn't crazy about the music of "Fiction", which
> > > > > was NOT written by
> > > > > Joni,but by Larry Klein
> > > >
> > > > That's okay ... nobody likes "Nothing Can Be Done"
> > > > either -- except my good friend Don, of course.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Larry-I love that song. Why shouldn't she bitch if she wants to?
> > >                 Well, Colin, seeing as I never said I hated "Fiction",
> nor
> > anything remotely that strong, it hardly qualifies as bitching.

My lines were added directly under the line about Nothing Can Be Done. I know Larry isn't
Larry but our Don. The 'why shouldn't she bitch if she wants to' was referring to Joni and
her song Nothing Can Be Done in which she bitches(and rightly so as far as I am
concerned). In other words, I was letting Larry/Don know that he isn't the only one who
likes this song. In past threads one of the reasons people have given for not liking it is
that JONI is bitching.
If you don't understand something, perhaps it would be wiser to ask the writer what they
meant.
bw
colin

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Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 20:54:59 -0600
From: "Craig Waltress" <CPWALTRESS@us.fortis.com>
Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #646 ( -Reply)

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Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 02:57:41 +0000
From: catman <colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk>
Subject: First Time again NJC

> > Gee, I'd hate to think that even the mildest of criticisms (such as,"I'm
> not that crazy about it") can result in such a vitriolic reaction.

I am somewhat surprised at your interpretation of that line. Hardly vitriolic even if it
was referring to you. In fact, if it was reffering to you, which it wasn't, it reads like
I am defending you! i.e. telling 'larry' to leave you alone and that if you want to bitch,
why not?

Still at least your reply explained Don's reply which I recieved loooong before yours.

Don't be so quick to assume the worst-the worst will come in it's own time! Email can be
difficult to decipher at times and it pays to re read sevral times before getting hurt.
bw
colin

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Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 03:02:22 +0000
From: catman <colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk>
Subject: virus

I believe this virus is coming in the form of an email joke about snow white. In order to view
the whole joke, one is asked to click on an attachement. DO NOT DO THAT! The email can come
from a trusted email friend because they do not know they have it. for more info:

http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=98873&

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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 23:18:38 -0500
From: "Megan" <megallen@citlink.net>
Subject: Re: Fw: First Time

- ----- Original Message -----
From: catman <colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk>
To: Megan <megallen@citlink.net>
Cc: <joni@smoe.org>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: First Time


>
>
> Megan wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Megan <megallen@citlink.net>
> > To: catman <colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk>
> > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 5:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: First Time
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: catman <colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk>
> > > To: Don Rowe <dgrowe227@yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: Megan <megallen@citlink.net>; <joni@smoe.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 12:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: First Time
> > >
> > >
> > > > catman wrote:
> > > >
> My lines were added directly under the line about Nothing Can Be Done. I
know Larry isn't
> Larry but our Don. The 'why shouldn't she bitch if she wants to' was
referring to Joni and
> her song Nothing Can Be Done in which she bitches(and rightly so as far as
I am
> concerned). In other words, I was letting Larry/Don know that he isn't the
only one who
> likes this song. In past threads one of the reasons people have given for
not liking it is
> that JONI is bitching.
> If you don't understand something, perhaps it would be wiser to ask the
writer what they
> meant.
> bw
> colin
>              Colin,                            Please excuse me while I
peel the egg off my face.Sorry to have misinterpreted your remarks .Since
I'm new, I didn't realize you guys discussed this in the past& were talking
about JONI bitching,thats why it didn't make sense to me,now it does, of
course.(I still love the song, even if she is bitching!) Next time I come
across a reference I'm not 100% sure what the writer meant,I will ask them
first.Thanks for clearing that up.  :~)   Megan

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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 00:04:04 -0600 
From: "Pitassi, Mary" <PitassiM@WEAC.org>
Subject: RE:  Happy Xmas (War is Over) NJC

Carol Starkey wrote:

"   I listened to it last night and indeed the lister whose name I forget
was RIGHT
it was "Happy Xmas Kyoko, Happy Xmas, Julian", I thought John and Yoko were
playing on the concept of instead of wishing Happy Xmas to each other,
they'd say their
own name as a play on words."

I thought it was "Yoko" and "John,"  too, but this new way of hearing it
makes sense:  Julian and Kyoko were their children. Kyoko is Yoko's daughter
with her first husband, Tony Somethingorother?, and Julian, John's son with
his first wife, Cynthia.  When the song was recorded, John and Yoko were not
yet the parents of Sean.  They were wishing their then-existing kids a merry
Christmas, and a world is which "war is over."

Mary P., thinking of John Lennon today in Madison, WI.

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End of JMDL Digest V2000 #647
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