From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #632 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, November 30 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 632 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Sign up for VideoTree #2 now: http://www.jmdl.com/trading ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Great new children's music cd! (NJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Covers, Volume 12 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] god's playlist ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: down to you [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: down to you [michael w yarbrough ] Re: God's Playlist (NJC) ["Mark or Travis" ] NJC, New Releases, a clarification ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: God's Playlist (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni-fest in LA [CarltonCT@aol.com] Re: Beatles Releases NJC [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: NJC USA refuses to reduce emissions - long ["Hell" ] NJC - christian music/gods playlist ["Greer, Ron" ] Re: christian music (just a little joni content) [IVPAUL42@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:50:52 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Great new children's music cd! (NJC) In a message dated 11/29/00 8:26:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, waytoblu@mindspring.com writes: << Some of you have met my girlfriend Holley, in New Orleans at PazFest, or othewise...I wanted to finally put in a plug for her new children's music cd, Sunnytime Soup, now that her website is up and running. >> Congratulations Holley!!! I know Victor is so proud of you, and he certainly should be. I listened to the samples and it's a wonderful CD for children of ALL ages. I'm just glad that Victor didn't talk you into putting "Happy F**king Birthday" on the cd :~) What a blessed couple you both are. love, Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:10:31 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers, Volume 12 << I believe it comes out this week or next. >> It's "A Very Ally Christmas", and it actually came out a couple of weeks ago. Mostly Vonda Shepard vocals, it does feature Downey's nice take on "River" and a great Macy Gray version of "Winter Wonderland". Speaking of "Covers & Contributions".....(trumpet fanfare...) Volume TWELVE of the "Covers & Contributions" collection is a done deal! Many copies are winding their way to the soon-to-be happy homes of these contributors: Leslie Mixon (where would I be without her?) Stephen E. (ditto for him) John Van Tiel Bob Murphy Ashara (like she hasn't been busy enough!) Jerry Notaro Joe Slomp Byron Steven B. Marian Russell Marcel Deste Bob Muller (hey, that's me!) Here's what's on it: 1. Acoustic Nuisance - Both Sides Now: Far from a nuisance, this is a nice acoustic (duh!) version of the song with a warm vocal. 2. Dave Van Ronk - Song To A Seagull: (Dedicated to Jimmy!) This is just Dave acapella. If you're not a Van Ronk fan, this one ain't gonna win you over. Nuff said on that. 3. Michael Holland - A Case of You: This one is a knockout! His vocal range is incredible, and he's a very expressive singer. If you've heard Brian Kennedy's version and his gorgeous tenor voice, this one is all that and then some! 4. Linda Ronstadt - River: What more can be said about Linda? One of the prettiest voices ever singing one of the prettiest songs ever. This one's a certified winner. Linda, if you made your baby say goodbye, give me a call!! :~) 5. Jane Monheit - Twisted: A really great jazz trio with that walking bass sound I love so much. You can close your eyes and see the lounge! :~) 6. George Hamilton IV - The Circle Game: This one is of course a little dated, from around 1968...there's a corny background chorus that sounds like they're singin' on the steps of the old home place. 7. Mystic Moods Orchestra - Both Sides Now: This is the first version of BSN I've heard that starts with birds chirping and ends with frogs croaking...sorta perfunctory, but by the same token there's some interesting things that are going on musically, all sorts of instruments...guess that's why they call themselves an orchestra, Bob. 8. Glen Campbell - Both Sides Now: I'd commented on this one before. Glen is a very talented picker and has a warm, friendly voice that suits this song. Far from cheese, this version is very enjoyable. Plus, he's slept with Tanya Tucker! 9. Theo Bikel - "Urge For Going": The beginning of this one is definitely one for the "weird & wonderful" pile...Theo starts with a monologue about standing on the roadside watching a guy changing his tire, in a voice that sounds like the narrator of those old movies they used to show in school. At least once he starts singing, he does a good job. 10. Dizzy Gillespie - Both Sides Now: Speaking of frogs, Dizzy probably puffed that neck of his out a time or two recording his version of BSN...I like it, it's very uptempo, and starts out like Vince Guaraldi's "Linus & Lucy". 11. Roger Whittaker - Both Sides Now: This a live version, Roger has a very warm baritone voice, I guess it's OK, I just burned out on his voice when that song "The Last Farewell" was on the radio all the time. 12. Joe Slomp - A Case of You: From the international best seller "Introducing Joe Slomp", I've already posted about this version - very nice, plus he's even a fellow list member! Special thanks to Joe for giving me permission to lift this track for the collection. 13. Bette Midler - For Free: This one is so rare, it leaves me in awe to think about it! It's taken from a 1971 Continental Baths concert, with Barry Manilow playing piano! I threw in a little of her monologue so you can get a little flavor of the Divine One in concert. It's funny to see it, because she's joking around, but once she starts the song, she sings it with a lot of reverence. A must hear, to be sure! Very exciting to get this one. Special thanks to my pal Byron! 14. Graham Nash, A Case Of You: Just as rare, and just as exceptional to have in our collection. This was from a 1992 concert, and features Graham accompanied on guitar and harmonica. And I'm a sucker for a harmonica! 15&16. Marcel Deste, I Think I Understand & Rainy Night House: OK, so maybe you don't agree with his politics, BUT it cannot be denied that Marcel is an OUTSTANDING musician and singer. The comparisons to Steven Stills are obvious. Both of these tracks are superb, certainly on par with the other excellent covers this collection has seen. Rainy Night House also features the uber-talented Steve Mixon on mandolin & mandocello. Pure joy! 17. Bola Sete - Both Sides Now: One of my favorite versions of BSN, this one has a whole different syncopation to it. Brazilian or Grecian or something, I'm not sure but it makes me want to get up and do the flamenco! 18. Robert Downey, Jr - River: This is MUCH better than you think it will be, especially heart-breaking in light of his recent exploits. Beautiful cello by Stephen Erdody and harmony vocals by Vonda Sheperd, and piano by Neil Larsen! We were just talking about him a couple weeks ago! And violin by Ralph Morrison III, who was the concert master for Joni's 2000 tour. Anyway, I love this Volume 12, like I'm attached to all my covers babies. Of course the prime reason I assembled it is to share it! If you'd like your own personal copy, of this or ANY of the covers series, let me know and I'll set you up! This is our 15th CD...awesome, you guys!! Why wait for the Reprise CD to hear great tributes to the genius that is Joni? And of course, if you want any information about the series, check out the JMDL at: http://www.jmdl.com/covers/ Thanks again to Les for devoting the space to this project! And more thanks to the hunters & gatherers who found this cool stuff!! Hey, if you want, you can get them all and sing: On the 12th day of Christmas, my true love gave to me, Covers Volume 12, and so on! :~) Bob NP: Michael Holland, "A Case of You" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:14:59 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: god's playlist What if god were one of us (Just a slob like one of us Just a stranger on the bus Trying to find his way home...} ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:26:23 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: down to you << i am new to this list so bear with me. i am looking for any critical review of joni's song 'down to you'. >> Hi Michael, and welcome to the list! Down To You...has to be one of my favorite Joni tunes ever! I refer to it as Symphony #2, with Judgement of the Moon & Stars being #1 and Paprika Plains being #3. Anyway, I dunno about sending this song to someone...what would they think? I mean, it's certainly more about the one line "It all comes down to you"...the theme of the song is the demise of a relationship (everything comes and goes, marked by lovers) and the rebound which leads to a one-night stand which begins with some of her most descriptive lyrics: "When the closing lights strip off the shadows On this strange new flesh you've found Clutching the night to you like a fig leaf You hurry to the blackness and the blankets To lay down an impression and your loneliness" Alliteration and metaphor abound, Joni is in her prime with this song! I could actually write out the whole damn thing, every line is brilliant. And the music behind it, with all the woodwinds and colors that Joni pulls out, it's bliss! But overall, the tone of the song is very depressing. "Pleasure moves on too early, trouble leaves too slow". And we're left with the thought of why she's singing "it all comes down to you", like what's happening to her with the end of the relationship is the result of what this person has done. It's a fascinating song, I'd love to hear what other folks think about it. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:39:09 -0600 (CST) From: michael w yarbrough Subject: Re: down to you "Down to You" was an extremely comforting song to me at the end, not the beginning, of a relationship. While so well depicting the confusion of looking for love in all the wrong places, it has an incredible sense of agency missing from most breakup songs. "You can crawl, you can fly, too" sounded to me like an invocation of possibilities from which I could choose, to remember even as I crawled that flight was never far if I could make my way to it. It is a beautiful, beautiful song--one of my most favorite of hers--but also very complex and likely to be misunderstood. Patrick L. and I have discussed what a gay song this is, too, particularly because of its (I think) ambivalent take on one-night stands and singles scenes. I believe it was featured in "Paved Paradise" to great effect. - --Michael NP: Rakim, _The Book of Life_ (how am I only now discovering Eric B. and Rakim???) - --------------------------------------------------------------- "I can't believe life's so complex When I just wanna sit here and watch you undress" - --PJ Harvey, "This Is Love" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:43:46 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: God's Playlist (NJC) > Of course, we HAVE to anthropromorphize God Why? Why can't we just accept that whatever it is is beyond our comprehension? Mark in Seattle not really wanting to start a religious debate but really unable to understand why this is necessary. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:16:31 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC, New Releases, a clarification Apparently the "new" james taylor, mentioned earlier this week is Greatest Hits, volume 2. ( I thought it was too soon for a new studio album- it is. ) BTW, the handlers of the most famous musical brand name of all, "The Beatles" have seen fit to release a new product for us to consume. It's called "1", a collection of the 27 number one hits from the fab four in the UK and the USA. If you don't have any Beatles, I suppose there's nothing wrong with buying it to start out although....... you'll probably end up buying everything anyway. :) Or am I very old fashioned indeed? Producer George Martin, Paul McCartney, John Lennon, George Harrison, Richard Starkey (Ringo Starr), and certianly one of the most successful managers of the rock era, Brian Epstein. Since we're all injected with the lyrics to those Beatles songs as babies, shouldn't we called call them "The Fetals" instead? (I stole that from a British film called "Sliding Doors".) np: Beatles' "Anthology, Vol 1" It seems appropriate somehow now that the wind is cold and the snow is floating around and Christmas is in the air, to haul out the tree and to musically begin at the beginning. Up next: JMDL's own Clark Carlton's "Saltwater" A little sentimental tonight, Lama ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:48:04 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: God's Playlist (NJC) << Why? Why can't we just accept that whatever it is is beyond our comprehension? >> I would say because it is just that, beyond our comprehension! Seriously though, I didn't make much sense with my original statement...I meant that it is human nature to reduce what we cannot understand to something that we can; hence the whole concept of heaven being a place in the clouds with guys with wings and harps and all that, which brings us back to Harper Lou who wrote the post to begin with! :~) I love the image of Heaven(?) in the film "Contact"...whoever the higher force is has to build a location that Jody Foster will understand, since the actual location is beyond her realm of understanding...or like the Talking Heads sing, "Heaven is a place where - nothing ever happens". Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:59:13 EST From: CarltonCT@aol.com Subject: Joni-fest in LA Of course we should have a Joni mini-fest in L.A. Though she's not on the list, we may as well invite this other woman who lives in L.A. who I really think would fit in. Her name is Joni Mitchell and she's supposed to be a pretty good singer. - - Clark NP: Tony Bennet, 16 Most Requested Songs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:59:53 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Beatles Releases NJC lama writes: << BTW, the handlers of the most famous musical brand name of all, "The Beatles" have seen fit to release a new product for us to consume. It's called "1", a collection of the 27 number one hits from the fab four in the UK and the USA. >> Would that handler be Michael Jackson? I know he owns the publishing rights to the entire Beatles music catalogue. Does anyone know how the whole thing is structured? (e.g., can Jackson decide what Beatles collections to release and when, or does he just get paid when the remaining Beatles choose to release a disc, etc.)? I'm really curious. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:45:37 +1300 From: "Hell" Subject: Re: NJC USA refuses to reduce emissions - long Lori wrote: > Hell contributed some really interesting facts about > pollutions problems in New Zealand (which, > unfortunately, makes me rethink wanting to relocate to > NZ) OK, before everyone starts to think NZ, or more particularly Auckland, is a nice city under a blanket of yucky brown sludge/smog, let me clarify! And I can't say I've ever noticed any "smog" in Auckland in the 6 1/2 years I've lived here. This from today's NZ Herald: "New Zealand creates about one-fifth of 1 per cent of world greenhouse gas emissions. The makeup of New Zealand's emissions is unusual. About 40 per cent is methane (an especially potent offender) from belching sheep and cattle. A further 16 per cent is nitrous oxide from farm soils. Electricity generation, a major source of CO2 elsewhere, is less of a problem because three-quarters of our power is hydroelectric or geothermal. On the other hand, we have the second-highest rate of vehicle ownership a head outside the United States. Those 2.4 million vehicles account for 15 per cent of New Zealand's greenhouse emissions and 42 per cent of the CO2. This is also the fastest-growing area of emissions." So although by comparison, we seem pretty bad, in actual fact it's still a clean, green place to live. I'd just like it to stay that way! We could do without all the cow and sheep burps and farts, which do seriously raise our gas emissions by quite a lot, but our dairy and wool industries make up the bulk of our exports, so I guess we're stuck with it. And no, before anyone asks, it doesn't "smell bad" here either. Except for Rotorua, which smells like rotten eggs, but that's from the geothermal activity (geysers, mud pools, hot springs, etc.) not from gassy animals! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:17:27 +0200 From: "Greer, Ron" Subject: NJC - christian music/gods playlist hi > sang in camp choirs, *now* i understand why they all wear those robes : ) >It's hard for me to draw the line between Christian music and Gospel >music (if there is a line, a borderline) - does anyone care to >elaborate? gospel music is the style of music. e.g. mahalia jackson who you name, andrae crouch, you know the kinda soul music with choirs & organs (no, not *those* organs) and those *camp* robes christian music is any style music which is about god/and or christian values, regardless of the musical style. i.e. it is content not style. some songs for "gods playlist" emmylou harris/daniel lanois - deeper well keb mo - victims of comfort anything by susan ashton (im glad to see there another ashton fan on the list!!) little billy - michelle shocked (for those who havent heard it this is an awesome song about a "jazz funeral" in new orleans - based on a true story it features a description of the deceased musicians mother doing a dance on the coffin of her child) love - joni mitchell aand of course all the new releases from jimi hendrix, janis joplin, jim morrison, frank zappa, stevie ray vaughn etc. that us mortals havent got to hear yet....... : ) ron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 02:35:25 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: christian music (just a little joni content) In a message dated 11/29/00 8:49:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, barbearuh@erols.com writes: << this might be a little indulgent, but hey, we've seen the streets, it's not about the election & you can delete if you want... >> John Lennon -- God (is a concept by which we measure our pain) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #632 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?