From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #626 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, November 27 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 626 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Sign up for VideoTree #2 now: http://www.jmdl.com/trading ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NJC: American Movie: How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Long ["Jim L'Homme] Re: Republicans vs. Democrats (NJC) [Siresorrow@aol.com] RE:Joni with Motorhead ["Blair Fraipont" ] NJC what I have been up to [James O Phillips ] Where was Joni? [cco@xs4all.nl] Re:- Craziness, - Why and how the hand counts are rigged NJC [MDESTE1@aol] Re: songs with street names NJC [TanyerSCO@aol.com] Re: Republicans vs. Democrats (NJC) [CarltonCT@aol.com] Re: Republicans vs. Democrats (NJC) (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Penelope [Leslie Mixon ] Politics & Truth NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Republicans vs. Democrats (NJC) (md) [Bern44105@aol.com] Politics & Truth, part 2 ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: NJC what I have been up to ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: ENYA ["Stevie Mitchell" ] RE: ENYA ["Wally Kairuz" ] A Letter From Kenny's Parents [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Back to the Garden ["Stephen Epstein" ] Re: A Letter From Kenny's Parents [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Happy Happy (NJC) [Michael Paz ] RE: A Letter From Kenny's Parents ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:57:44 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC: American Movie: How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Long Hey Barbara, In addition to the films that you mentioned, Ron Howard directed "Apollo 13". While you might dismiss it as a 'guy' film, it was really a high budget documentary, masquerading as a drama. Unlike "Grinch" it moved very, very well. The astronauts' high tech problems were explained in laymen's terms without dumbing them down and without insulting the audience and without slowing the film even once. Great performances too. I couldn't imagine doing "Apollo 13" any better. So to me, Opie has already proven his ability as a director at least once. Now, on "Grinch" I went in with these prejudices: * No one will ever be able to match the cartoon feature. I mean, just look at the credits: Written by Geisel. Directed by the long-time Warner cartoon whiz, Chuck Jones. And wonderful narration (Boris Karloff?). * So, the film won't be as good, but it will have good points too. (Want one? I agree that the new narration by Anthony Hopkins was just great.) Anyway, maybe Speilberg would have brought us more cheerful Whos, like in the cartoon. (Remember how sentimental "The Color Purple" was, when the long-lost siblings arrive from Africa? Stephen knows how to do sentiment!) But seriously, what about Penny Marshall directing? She did a wonderful job directing Tom Hanks in "Big". There was quite a bit of child-like wonder, and comedic timing, and a light touch in that one. Remember the beginning of "Big", when the boy asks the carnival genie for his wish? About a year ago, I heard an interview on NPR with Mrs. Geisel. Now this might just be a Hollywood story but.... She was introduced to Carrey on a set. He did one of his swooping, wheel-around takes, lurching at her, then stopped abruptly and took her hand. She said, "Oh, my God! It's the Grinch!" I think Jim Carrey was _perfectly_ cast. His stage persona is a lurching, slinking creep, just like the Grinch. I agree that there were screenplay problems. Okay, there were lots of problems. And I wanted more LIGHT in Whoville. It's a fairy tale- it's not a Parisian alley! I wanted some time to linger over Whoville every once in a while. (Lucas did this very well in the remakes of Star Wars 4,5, & 6.) I liked the zany tilting camera effect in Whoville. (How do you get a Steadicam to tilt? I thought they forced you to be level? Or was it a dolly shot that emulated a tilted Steadicam??) I liked the lens flare too and low angles. Very very smart, I thought, to bring Whoville down to the level of a tricycle. And didn't you love it when the Mayor was proposing and he started sweetening the proposal, throwing stuff in, like prizes in a game show? I thought that was not only very, very funny but perfect for the theme of rejecting materialism. (Cindy Lou rejects the "presents" theme of Christmas and the Grinch's old flame rejects the Mayor's wealth. Those little parallels don't write themselves!) BTW, there were about 100 people in the theater when I went and no one laughed but me. Sadly, that's not unusual here. At the end of the film, I applied my inelegantly named "Refund Litmus Question". After seeing a flawed film, I ask myself, "Do I want my two hours back?" After seeing "The Grinch Who Stole Christmas", I didn't. Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 05:02:54 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Republicans vs. Democrats (NJC) In a message dated 11/25/00 2:17:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, CarltonCT@aol.com writes: << Like Reverend Vince, I feel that the recent political discussions on the list have highlighted the differences between us here and created some fractures...... Though I have a few friends who are - gulp! - gay Republicans, being a Republican is always a strike against someone in my book. >> Clark. The only fractures on this list are the ones you have caused yourself. You have a "BOOK" by which you judge people. And the book is pre determined. And predetermined books fracture communities. Had you not ranted and called people ..fucking idiot...then you might feel less fractured. Just because you feel something, does not mean you should post it. Some things should be kept to yourself. For example, it still remains difficult for me to remember your post last year about taking viagra to get it up one more time with one of your friends. That drug was made for people who can't get it up....ever..not for healthy people who want to get it up four times in a day. But you felt comfortable to post it. I refrained from comment. Until now, a year later, and only because you are still naieve enough to think that it is other people's attitude that causes fractures on this list. I suggest you look at your own attitude.....or...your BOOK, as you like to call it. patrick np. nothing ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 08:34:51 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: RE:Joni with Motorhead "Motorhead" refers to Motorhead Sherwood who was with The Mothers of INvention from about 1967 till 1970. He was also featured in the Movie "200 Motels." He seems like such a wild character and the coupling of him and Joni seemed odd. Also, In the song "Billy the Mountain" from the Just Another Band in La album from 1972, Zappa had the lyrics: "He was born next to the beef pies, underneath Joni Mitchell's autographed picture, right beside Elliot Robert's big bank book, next to the boat where Crosby flushed away all his stash." blair - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 07:56:31 -0600 From: James O Phillips Subject: NJC what I have been up to dear all: I have not posted in God only knows how long, but I have some news to share. First and foremost, I am now employed! I work as a personal assistant through the Office of Rehab Services for people living with HIV. The work itself may be a touch stressful at times, but in the end, the ultimate reward for me is that I helped bring some semblance of order to my clients' lives if only for a few hours. Second of all, I am now playing the bass guitar besides my arsenal of acoustics. A friend of mine in Kansas City gave me her son's old bass that was in her basement. It only needed a few adjustments made to it, but other than that, it was in good shape. It is a copy of a Fender Jazz bass all punked out with various stickers on it. I am currently making payments towards a nice size Peavey bass amp, but for now, I am using an old tube guitar amp to run my bass through. The reason I am playing bass now is so that my church Praise band could have a bass player. Third of all, Patrick and I have now known each other for 2 years. We meet at a showing of the Rocky Horror Picture show in 98 soon after my whole coming out experience. I would never have guessed in a million years that I would still be with the man that I love:-) (gush) Lastly, I have updated my own webpages. Go to http://homestead.juno.com/jamespatrick7556/JamesthePage.html from there there is a link to my second page, JamesthePage2, or you can go to http://homestead.juno.com/jamespatrick7556/JamesthePage2.html I have updated some links in it as well as some stuff in it as well. Let me know what you think. take care and here's my best to you:-) James Phillips IM me at "thebleachboi" on AOL instant messenger You can also IM me on ICQ doing a search for my email address now playing Clark Carlton - Salt Water (wink) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:43:39 +0100 (CET) From: cco@xs4all.nl Subject: Where was Joni? Hi all, I've a question for you. Does anybody know where our Joni was between the 10th and the 12th of Juli 1996? I thought I saw her in Ireland, in a place called Doolin. It must have been wishful thinking :-) I already asked Les, but he couldn't help me. Monica ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:38:07 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re:- Craziness, - Why and how the hand counts are rigged NJC In a message dated 11/25/00 4:01:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, jlamadoo@home.com writes: << but it's not as simple IMHO, as you want to make it. It's not "Hand count = Fair". >> Yesterday I watched the Broward county handcounting which has a sound feed of the three judges. The Republican is a Judge who looks at every ballot carefully with a magnifying glass. The Center figure is the head of the three and he seems basically to be fair (and he is a Democrat) the person on the right is an over the top partisan Democrat who finds Gore votes where there is sometimes a Bush vote and this has been revealed throughout the process. The thing that I noticed is that the "standard" they are using is totally slanted to favor Gore. How ? Simple. They are now looking at ballots that have no hole in the place where the presidential vote is. These are called "undercount" or "overcount". They are basically saying that if there is no hole and the rest of the card is perforated they "sort of" use the rest of the voteing pattern to decide who the vote "must" have been for president. While the partisan judge refuses to acknowledge that any lack of a hole translates into a Bush vote and the attorney there with her is providing her the words with which to express that (another questionable tactic in and of itself) they virtually always assert that the Democratic voting pattern ALWAYS translates in her mind into a vote for Gore. She is so bad that if a moth flew across the table she would declare is a vote for Gore. The point here is that this (1) ignores the fact that someone maybe didnt vote for anyone purposely. Traditionally about 1.5% of all voters skip the presidency entiely due to the perception that they dont like either candidate and more so than in the past after Gores arrogant Debate 1 performance a few people who are long-term Democrats that I discussed the elelction with said they werent going to vote for either. But in this "hand count" all those votes are going to Gore. (2) Totally ignores even the possibility that the swing voters who are say liberal on social values (would vote demo on the local issues and local candidates) but "conservative" on foreign policy (you know they think Madeline Not So Bright is a dufus and would rather have Colin Powelll steering the ship); would vote for Bush. These votes are all going to Gore. In other words the game is in fact rigged to eliminate at least 2% of the entire vote. These are the partiasan distinctions that machines dont engage in. Noiw in case you might think I am (of course) biased I have found a source that in fact has transcripts generated by the court reporter that is now workingat the table with the judges in the event a disagreement breaks out. The transcript demonstrating in detail how this Partisan judge (with the help of floating standards) is trying to manufacture votes for Gore. This is why hand counts without standards of judgement set prior to the election dont work. GUNZBURGER'S GALL: TRANSCRIPTS FROM BROWARD RECOUNT SHOW HUNT FOR GORE VOTES AS RACE TIGHTENS! As Broward County elections officials pressed to finish their review of disputed presidential ballots, transcripts of the canvassing board recount sessions show member Suzanne Gunzburger, a Democrat and an active contributor to the Democratic National Committee [pictured left], blatantly hunting for more Gore votes! Gunzburger: I Can See The Light - If You Hold It Just Right JUDGE LEE: 5A 11 is a slight dimple on the spot. I have to try to remember these. Judge Rosenberg. JUDGE ROSENBERG: Cannot be ascertained with reasonable certainty. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I disagree on this one because it's pushed more than a slight and there is light visible in the bottom. I've read some of the opinions that says when there is light visible that it is a punch for a candidate. JUDGE LEE: I don't see it. JUDGE ROSENBERG: I don't see any light visible. MR LICHTMAN (Democratic Attorney): Hold it up. I can see it from here. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Turn it around. JUDGE LEE: You're right. You can see it. All right. I agree with the Commissioner, 5A 11 is a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1390 - 1391) [[[Gunzburger Changes Her Own Liberal Standards From Daylight To Dents ]]] JUDGE LEE: 29C 3. JUDGE ROSENBERG: No clear intent. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: No. Wait. Let me look. The other votes are Democratic and I'm looking, there is a dent on the No. 3, and I would say it's a Gore. JUDGE LEE: I agree with Judge Rosenberg. It remains an under vote. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1432) [[[Gunzburger Caught Mishandling Ballots - Twisting And Bending Ballots Until The Light Shines Through]]] JUDGE LEE: Number three. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I see a clear vote for Gore. It's like a garage door. MR CARROLL (Republican Attorney): I ask you not to bend the ballot, please. GOVERNOR: Don't bend the ballot. MR. POZZOVLI (sic) (Republican Attorney): You may not bend the ballot. JUDGE LEE: I agree that's a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1516) [[[Gunzburger Is Seeing So Much Light, She's Seeing Spots (However, She's The Only One Seeing It)]]] JUDGE LEE: Moving on, moving on to 14J. There is only one disputed ballot, and it is number one. MS. ANGULO: You mean 15J? JUDGE LEE: No 14J. That was just 13. JUDGE ROSENBERG: This is 14J dash one. No reasonable certainty on that ballot. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I believe I can see light on three sides, and it's a clear vote for Gore. JUDGE LEE: I Agree with judge Rosenberg. That's an undervote. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1504) [[[Gunzburger: Some Other Votes Are Democratic - Must Be A Gore Vote!]]] JUDGE LEE: 10A 1, no reasonable certainty. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I haven't looked. JUDGE LEE: I'm just stating my opinion, I'm sorry. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: The other races are Democratic. There is an indentation on that and I would vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1398 - 1399) [[[Gunzburger Defines Voter Intent Based On If They Voted For Another Democratic Candidate]]] JUDGE LEE: Precinct 5D. 5D only has one, and I believe it is 5D 1. JUDGE ROSENBERG: No intent. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: On this one, I believe there is a discernible intent based on the following reasons: On 21, there was a Democratic vote; on 41, there was another attempt to vote for congress on 41, and it didn't get through, so that I believe this is a vote for Gore. JUDGE LEE: I agree with the Commissioner, 5D 1 is a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1436) [[[When Everyone Else Agrees There's No Reasonable Certainty, Gunzburger Still Calls It For Gore]]] JUDGE LEE: Moving on to 21A, there is only one dispute. It's No. 4. I believe no reasonable certainty. JUDGE ROSENBERG: No reasonable certainty. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Well, it's pushed on Gore, but I don't think I'm going to have the votes on that, but I'm going to say it is a Gore vote, based on the rest of the ballot. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1405) [[[Even With A Clear Overvote - Recognized By The Other Two Members Of The Board - Gunzburger Still Calls It For Gore]]] JUDGE LEE: Moving to Precinct 5H. One disputed ballot. It's ballot number 10. I don't what that's - - That's an overvote, clearly. That's an overvote. JUDGE ROSENBERG: Punched two numbers, three and eleven, in the presidential race. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Gore. JUDGE LEE: No change to Precinct 5H. (Note: Canvassing Board made a determination that if two punches were present, and one of the punches was in a spot not occupied by a candidate (spot 1, or spots 12 and on), the vote would count for the candidate. If the second punch was in a spot occupied by another candidate (spot 2-11), it would be classified as an overvote.) (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1493) [[[Gunzburger Is Even Trying To Rationalize Bush Votes Into Gore Votes]]] JUDGE LEE: 17D, there is only one ballot disputed. It's 17D 2. JUDGE ROSENBERG: No intent. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: They voted only in three races for congress and for Nelson, and I believe there is an intent to also vote, because in the bottom of that is a punch for Gore. JUDGE ROSENBERG: Gore? JUDGE LEE: It's really a punch for Bush. JUDGE ROSENBERG: If it's for anybody, it's Bush. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: You're right. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1438) [[[Again, Gunzburger Attempts To Interpret Voter Intent Where Voter Intent Is Simply Not Known]]] JUDGE LEE: G5 JUDGE ROSENBERG: (No Comment) COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I see a line on the bottom that's been punched out. I think it's a vote for Gore, based on the fact that the rest of the card is, also. JUDGE LEE: So going back to this on, Judge Rosenberg, G5. JUDGE ROSENBERG: I don't think it's a reasonable certainty. JUDGE LEE: I agree with Judge Rosenberg on G5. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1489) END ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:38:50 EST From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Re: songs with street names NJC In a message dated 11/26/00 3:20:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << wow, All i can think of is "Easy Street" from Annie, a play i absolutely despise. - -zelda >> I've just gotten in on this but did anyone say Bleecker Street by Simon & Garfunkel? One of my faves. : ) tanya ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:50:10 EST From: CarltonCT@aol.com Subject: Re: Republicans vs. Democrats (NJC) I already responded to Patrick in private about his post, but I would like to apologize to all those on this list who voted for Bush for calling your candidate a "f*cking idiot" in a moment of passion. Although my opinions about Bush are unchanged, he does have some supporters on this list who sincerely embrace this man and seem to admire him. Naturally, these folks found my comment to be disrespectful to both Bush and themselves. - - Clark NP: Pet Shop Boys - Actually ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:37:38 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Republicans vs. Democrats (NJC) (md) In a message dated 11/26/00 10:56:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, CarltonCT@aol.com writes: << I would like to apologize to all those on this list who voted for Bush for calling your a "f*cking idiot" in a moment of passion. >> As you know Carlton I did not object at all to your comment. I have come to view such comments as to be expected from Democrats. Bush was a jet fighter pilot in the air force reserve. That in and of itself would belie the factual foundation of your statement much the same as Bill Clinton called his administration "the most ethical Administration in history". So no prob. marcel deste ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:26:51 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Penelope I never knew that Joni recited this poem to an audience - wow! This is from Joni's book, "Morning Glory On The Vine" of which I am lucky to have #28 out of 100 made. Penelope Penelope wants to fuck the sea Tired of waiting Tired of the stitches In her tapestry She spreads Goosebumps on her winter flesh Foam Licking at her up the stone Salt on its teasing tongue It comes Wide blue lipped Hissing Wet kissing Like electric Jaggar It comes in spurts It waves obscene She wrinkles up her nose and screams A haunted laugh That rocks the rocks And calls in metaphors For metamorphic cocks. Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:08:23 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Politics & Truth NJC I can't hold this back anymore. Anyone who claims they know the truth or the facts of this highly complicated matter sounds arrogant, ignorant or delusional to me. It is one thing to speak from your own opinions as to why you believe what you do, but it is entirely another matter to claim to know what is the truth or the facts and that others do not. Give me a friggin break. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:16:21 EST From: Bern44105@aol.com Subject: Re: Republicans vs. Democrats (NJC) (md) In a message dated 11/26/00 3:20:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, Marcel writes: << Republicans want to know what the truth is whatever it is. >> <> - ----------------------------------------- I really think you are deluded, Marcel. Personally, I don't see much "truth" in the first mammoth generalization. Too, you have a tendency to speak of "truth" and "fact" in brutally absolute terms. I don't question your sincerity, but I think you fail to see how your interpretations are shaped and colored by the limited perspective to which you cling so tenaciously. Like the rest of us, you only see part of the picture, and I would be inclined to take you more seriously if you were able to acknowledge that "fact". Your statements suggest that you have a penchant for broad brush strokes that highlight "facts", often selectively applied. There is also a noticeable absence of warm, humanistic tones in favor of cold and rigid applications. My instinct tells me that this leads you astray from the "truth". <> I don't know who Brodderick is. Regarding Anita Hill, my recollection is that despite her credibility and persuasiveness during the hearings, and despite her not having reason to fabricate a story against Clarence Thomas, "truth"and "justice" did not prevail for Anita Hill : Clarence Thomas was ratified and remains a Justice of the Supreme Court. Ultimately, do you really think Hill did better than the women in the Clinton case? <> Let's see, Marcel. Those would be artifice, brutality, and innocence? Are you quite sure you don't employ any of those devices? Bern Giordano ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:39:30 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Politics & Truth, part 2 Since I made my last post public, I would prefer to read all responses to what I said on this list, not privately. Marcel, if you want, go ahead & post what you wrote to me so that I can respond on the list. And others can comment too if they want to. Thanks. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:01:15 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: NJC what I have been up to hey james!!!!! welcome back!!! great page! but i want to see pix of you and patrick!!!!!! wallyK I have updated some links in it as well as some stuff in it as well. Let me know what you think. take care and here's my best to you:-) James Phillips IM me at "thebleachboi" on AOL instant messenger You can also IM me on ICQ doing a search for my email address now playing Clark Carlton - Salt Water (wink) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 01:15:47 -0000 From: "Stevie Mitchell" Subject: Re: ENYA On thing that I have been annoyed about lately is that BT Cellnet are using Enya as their music on hold - is this some devious psychological trick - how can you stay mad at them when they play such lovely music to you while you wait for them to sort out the latest screw-up? - -- Stevie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Hicks" > To: "njmc" > Cc: > Sent: 01 November 2000 15:24 > Subject: ENYA > > > > Hey all you Enya fans. Go and pick up the new Enya release "A Day > > Without Rain". I'm getting mine soon. I'm sure it will be good. > > Anyone interested let me know. I'll give my opinion. > > > > Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:30:30 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: ENYA easy stevie! think ac/cd ac/cd ac/cd ac/cd... :-))) wallyk - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Stevie Mitchell Enviado el: Domingo, 26 de Noviembre de 2000 10:16 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: ENYA how can you stay mad at them when they play such lovely music to you while you wait for them to sort out the latest screw-up? - -- Stevie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:37:10 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: A Letter From Kenny's Parents The following is a letter sent to me by Kenny Grant's parents after I sent them pictures of Kenny taken at Jonifest here in September. They asked me to share it with the list: 11/21/00 Dear Ashara, It was so thoughtful of you to send the pictures of Kenny taken over Labor Day at your house for "Jonifest." Fortunately, we had him with us in Florida for the week of his Dad's birthday 9/21/00. We saw him again in New York the Friday before his untimely passing. One month later we received the beautiful gift of 30 pages of remembrances of Kenny from your discussion group. You have no idea how uplifting it was for us to learn he had touched so many lives with his goodness, generosity, love and "HUGGS." The outpouring, and condolences, and memories you shared with us, is a great comfort in this our time of deepest sorrow. Kenny loved Joni's music- it was his passion. We're so glad he met such wonderful and caring people to share it with. Please share this letter with the "group" as a thank you for all the Kind Words about our beloved son, Kenny. Barbara and Al Grant ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:06:04 -0500 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Re: Back to the Garden Hi Cassie, Stephen in Vancouver here! Since no one reponded to your query, I shall! Can't find a date of release on the CD, but I estimate it to be about 10 years ago. The executive producer is Stewart Raven-Hill, friend of mine from Toronto days who used to work for True North Records- home of Bruce Cockburn. It was recorded in Toronto, by Canadian artists. Listing is as follows: 1. Free Man in Paris- Big Faith 2. This Flight Tonight- Sarah Craig 3. Carey- Universal Honey 4. Big Yellow Taxi- Lorraine Scott 5. Black Crow- Molly Johnson 6. The Beat of Black Wings- Andy Stochansky 7. Shades of Scarlett Conquering- Martha and the Muffins 8. The Hissing of Summer Lawns- Funky Bummer featuring Anne Beadle 9. River- Hugh Marsh and group- former violinist for Bruce Cockburn 10. You Turn me on I'm a Radio- Kurt Swinghammer 11. Coyote- Spirit of the West 12. Woodstock- W.O.W 13. Night in the City- Jenny Whitetly 14. A Case of You- Sloan 15. Blonde in the Bleachers- Squiddly featuring Maria Del Mar 16. Songs to Aging Children Come- John Cody and Marti Jones 17. Refuge of the Road- Laura Hubert and Art Bergmann There are some standout numbers on the tribute, but not many. Some of my faves- 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 11, 16. Of course, none of them come close to the originals. I am GENERALLY of the opinion that a cover is never as good as the original, as it can never be as the author intended- they recorded it as it was originally meant to be. (I have been proven wrong on occasssion!) I do not own any of the cover CDs that Bob Muller has so graciously compiled- I'm sure some are great- I just have some difficulty in listening as I always want to compare the cover to the original. It's been a long time since I listened to this CD, and I must say that it is better than I remember it to be. It must be the influence of the JMDL since I have become a particpant! Best regards, Stephen in Vancouver. "Cassie Fox" on 11/25/2000 08:29:24 AM Please respond to "Cassie Fox" To: joni@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Stephen Epstein/Agmont) Subject: Back to the Garden I am unfamiliar with the Joni tribute album "Back to the garden." Could someone enlighten me about the songs and performers on it? Thanks! Cassie ___________________________________________________________________________ __________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:57:44 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: A Letter From Kenny's Parents In a message dated 11/26/00 10:59:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, AsharaJM@aol.com writes: << Kenny loved Joni's music- it was his passion. We're so glad he met such wonderful and caring people to share it with. >> Ashara, That was a very kind and thoughtful thing for you to do. I'm glad that it brought them comfort in their time of loss. - -Rose ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:41:19 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Happy Happy (NJC) Dear Clark- A very Happy Fucking Birthday to you and thank you so much for the CD. I am so proud of you. From the first time I heard you sing at dear Kakki's place I thought you were an amazing singer AND player and NOW you are a recording artist!!! Damn you're good. I am glad so many of your friends encouraged you to play and to pursue your dreams of writing and recording. I hope you get some interest in your songs (from record companies and other artists), but remember the industry is changing so quickly you have to really do it yourself. Get a website going and start plugging away. I wish you the best of luck in this new year for you and hope you get out and play more. See you in January. Love Paz NP-Higher-Tara MacLean/Passenger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:31:15 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: A Letter From Kenny's Parents ashes, thank you so much for doing this. i'm sure the grants must have appreciated your thoughtfulness and generosity. what a great gal you are! love, wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de AsharaJM@aol.com Enviado el: Lunes, 27 de Noviembre de 2000 12:37 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: A Letter From Kenny's Parents The following is a letter sent to me by Kenny Grant's parents after I sent them pictures of Kenny taken at Jonifest here in September. They asked me to share it with the list: Barbara and Al Grant ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:48:26 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: michael paz dream (NJC) last night i had the strangest dream and most excellent dream i've had in years. in my dream michael paz and i had been commissioned to take an enormous amount of money to some place in central america, where some form of natural disaster [maybe a hurricane or an earthquake] had just devastated entire populations. our departure point was some place in the us, and in order to get to central america we had to face many challenges and solve apparently impossible riddles and puzzles. we met friends and allies on our way, though, and they fed us and gave us temporary shelter. the dream was very long, fraught with difficulties and danger. we finally made it to this dismal disaster area in the nick of time, all the money intact. at the end of the dream, it was revealed to me that michael was actually st michael, the archangel. man! wallyK ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #626 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?