From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #588 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 8 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 588 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Sign up for VideoTree #2 now: http://www.jmdl.com/trading ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Muggles NJC [catman ] Canadian wins...NJC [catman ] Re: Rickie on The Election...(njc) (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] happy birthday! [Emily Kirk Gray ] Re: NJC storms (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: Rickie on The Election...(njc) (md) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Rickie on The Election...(njc) (md) [Jerry Notaro ] (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... ["Lori R. Fye" ] Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? (was: songs that evoke emotion, Beach Boys) [catm] Have Yourself A Don/Larry Christmas! [Don Rowe ] Re: more birthdays NJC ["Lori R. Fye" ] Re: Songs that invoke emotions (LJC) [mintagli@email.ypf.com.ar] Re: Big Sur/artists/folkies/riders, etc. (NJC) ["Mike Hicks" ] Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? (was: songs that evoke emotion, Beach Boys) [Don ] Today in Joni History - November 8 [Today in Joni History ] Re: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... [Catherine ] Re: birthday question [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? [Catherine McKay ] Re: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... [Murphycopy] Re: fortune cookies NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Rickie on The Election...(njc) (md) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Jubilant Songs [Don Rowe ] RE: bassists ["Mike Hicks" ] Re: Muggles NJC [FredNow@aol.com] loss of a loved one njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] JMDL post question NJC [FredNow@aol.com] Re: JMDL post question NJC [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... [catman ] Re: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... [catman ] Re: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... [FMYFL@aol.] In the wake of AOL problems-- a question - NJC ["Eric Wilcox" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 09:53:45 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Muggles NJC YES! It is good. I like the name Dumbledore too. Think I will use as a registered name for a dog-i.e. Tantra's Dumbledore. kerry wrote: > Hi Colin, > > I did read the first Harry Potter and I love the term, "muggles" referring > to people without magic or imagination - just like a lot of politicians! > > Kerry - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 10:07:06 +0000 From: catman Subject: Canadian wins...NJC Margeret Attwood, a Canadian, has won the Booker Prize(for writers of books). - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 07:55:41 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Rickie on The Election...(njc) (md) All Rickey Lee Jones demonstrates with this pathetically uninformed rant is how well she fits into the profile of the Clinton voter-supporter. Totally uninformed about what happened, riddled with propaganda masquerading as opinion standing on a platform provided any and all left wing leaning artists by other left wing media people. Why would someone assume that this list is the place to post the harpie rant of a lush. Rickey should go back to slurring her words on records and leave political statements to those who actually have a clue. She doesnt. Please stop posting blatantly ridiculous and stupid political rants on this discussion list. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 08:15:54 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Kirk Gray Subject: happy birthday! joni -- i'm a day late, and (of course) a dollar short, but i know you of all will understand... happy birthday! happy day -- thank you for your art. best, emily PS: please keep writing! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 08:18:43 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC storms (md) In a message dated 11/7/2000 3:20:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk writes: << Fuel is about to become a BIG issue again. people panic buying petrol. USA not too popular either-with all the election coverage(they don't seem to rrealise how important this is world wise) and also because USA has done little to reduce CO2 emissions. But then we have scientists arguing over whether or not the weather is just a natural cycle or freeaked out becuase of CO2 emissions. >> You know somehow I just KNEW the US would be blamed. Its sort of a pavlovian conditioned response. Fortunately the ice age occurred 10,000 years before 1776. We cant be blamed for that.Or can we. marcel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 08:19:19 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Rickie on The Election...(njc) (md) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 7:55 AM Subject: Re: Rickie on The Election...(njc) (md) > All Rickey Lee Jones demonstrates with this pathetically uninformed rant is > how well she fits into the profile of the Clinton voter-supporter. Totally > uninformed about what happened, riddled with propaganda masquerading as > opinion standing on a platform provided any and all left wing leaning artists > by other left wing media people. Why would someone assume that this list is > the place to post the harpie rant of a lush. Rickey should go back to > slurring her words on records and leave political statements to those who > actually have a clue. She doesnt. Please stop posting blatantly ridiculous > and stupid political rants on this discussion list. Can't everybody respect differences of opinion without using inflammatory and negative outbursts. It was already indicated that this post was a mistake anyway. Victor, glad this will all be over with soon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 07:39:39 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: Celebrity election phone calls NJC Penny wrote: >>>While many of us in the States are waching the returns, anybody want to share who's called them? ;-)>> Yes, I couldn't believe it when I got home from work, listened to the messages on the answering machine and heard Melissa Etheridge's voice! She was just spreading the message to vote and didn't say who to vote for. (But it doesn't take much to figure out who's side she's on!!!!) Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 08:48:14 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Rickie on The Election...(njc) (md) MDESTE1@aol.com wrote: > All Rickey Lee Jones demonstrates with this pathetically uninformed rant is > how well she fits into the profile of the Clinton voter-supporter. Totally > uninformed about what happened, riddled with propaganda masquerading as > opinion standing on a platform provided any and all left wing leaning artists > by other left wing media people. Why would someone assume that this list is > the place to post the harpie rant of a lush. Rickey should go back to > slurring her words on records and leave political statements to those who > actually have a clue. She doesnt. Please stop posting blatantly ridiculous > and stupid political rants on this discussion list. Pysician, heal thyself. She has every right to express her opinions as you. And just because she doesn't agree with you does not make her "left wing." Back to the Reagan era. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 09:03:10 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Happy/Sad Songs I have been totally out of touch as to what is going on listwise, as I have have been very busy getting the Branch tapes dubbed, and also spending quite a bit of time on the documents that will accompany these trees. I am taking a quick minute out to respond to this thread. (I know I owe many of you e-mails, but please be patient!) I cry at many, many songs. Beautiful music touches me from a very deep place in my soul. Noteable ones off the top of my head: Amelia- Joni Arrow- Cheryl Wheeler One Hand, One Heart- West Side Story Tell Me On a Sunday- Tell Me On a Sunday Bring Him Home- Les Miserables I'll Cover You- Rent Walls- (covered by Peter, Paul and Mary- most of their songs make me tear up anyway) If These Walls Could Speak- Jimmy Webb The Lady of Shallot- Loreena McKennit Let Her Go Down- Steeleye Span Songs that I absolutely CANNOT sit still to (and MUST crank up until my kids yell at me to "TURN IT DOOOOOOWN, MOM!!!!!!!" : Solid Love- Joni Ajde Jano- Talitha MacKenzie One Night in Bankok- Chess Thomas the Rhymer- Steeleye Span Lukey- Great Big Sea Roll With It- Steve Winwood Alane- Wes Zombie Jamboree- Rockapella Were these lists supposed to be kept at 5? Oh well.... please be kind. ;-) Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:16:17 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: bushy boy In a message dated 11/5/00 12:48:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, davebeth@bellatlantic.net writes: << Bush is such an ignorant,foolish,idiot.How could he actually become president? >> i'm a democrat. i struggled more with this election than any other. i did not decide how to vote until yesterday morning when i decided to vote for bush. my final analysis was from the gut not the head. when i watched al gore during the debates, he was such a turn off that i just couldn't vote for him. i have three kids and i surprised myself yesterday but i guess at the beginning of the day i found myself wondering if for any reasons, bombs started flying around the planet, would al gore have the right stuff to handle it. early on, i was for gore. i want stability in the economy and i like his social agenda. but as time wore on, bush took on the better appearance of character to me so i voted for him as the best alternative i could see because at the end of the day i guess i'm more concerned about safety and security for my family than i am about anything. but i want to say something about your post. see my wife voted for al gore. surprised the hell out of me. and last night when they gave florida to gore, she started doing this victory dance around the bedroom. whipping her wrists and going whoo hoo and all that. and i went to bed at 10:30 thining that it was over and i had voted for the wrong guy. and i said, well, thank god there are a zillion other people involved in this process and they must have seen something i missed and my judgement alone doesn't have to support all of america. and i felt really relieved knowing that the i didn't have to know everything and that i can rely on other people too, not just my own judgement. but your post, days before the election said to me, that you knew...YOU knew what was right for all america. but yet, the day after the election, all america still does not know what was right for the country. and no matter how strong your feelings are toward george bush, something like 47 million other people think differently and if that means nothing to you, it does mean something to me. patrick np. d. henley - everything is different now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 09:28:58 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Last Issue of The Light Network (NJC) For those of you that have been following my newsletter, the LAST issue of The Light Network is up at: http://www.photon.net/lightnet/pastissue/issue37/37-1.htm I hope you've enjoyed it! Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 09:28:39 -0500 From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Re: maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... Maybe we could all pool our money and buy a house somewhere together. :) This is so nerve wracking! I woke up this morning, and still nothing! Reuben >>> 11/07/00 06:28PM >>> I'm just wondering where I should move to if bush should win... anyway...HAPPY BIRTHDAY JONI!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 09:35:06 EST From: "mags woman" Subject: Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? (was: songs that evoke emotion, Beach Boys) with his wonderful sense of humour, Bri wrote: Brian of South Jersey USA is still 45 till later this month, when the birthday >party keeps getting smaller as JFK Jr and Joltin' Joe are both gone but Jim >Lamadamadoo and I are both still here. > >Just read my fortune from today's chinese lunch and it reads: >"It is better to have a hen tomorrow than an egg today." > >Does this mean that it's better to have a breast for tomorrow's lunch than >an >omelette for tonight's dinner? I'm so confused ;-) > >Back to the pressure cooker here :-( > > Brian > >nc: 15 more nights :-))> and mags decides to respond: i forgot to mention that depending on the day, Im either 23 and a half or I'm 17. ;) nc: 14 for real; definitely my good fortune cookie np: Live, Jonatha Brooke oooo i just love this cd sooo much :x > >===== >"No paper thin walls, no folks above >No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" > > >yeah, right > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. >http://shopping.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:40:31 -0500 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: [none] ..."All Rickey Lee Jones demonstrates with this pathetically uninformed rant is how well she fits into the profile of the Clinton voter-supporter. Totally uninformed about what happened, riddled with propaganda masquerading as opinion standing on a platform provided any and all left wing leaning artists by other left wing media people. Why would someone assume that this list is the place to post the harpie rant of a lush. Rickey should go back to slurring her words on records and leave political statements to those who actually have a clue. She doesnt. Please stop posting blatantly ridiculous and stupid political rants on this discussion list. " ...I didn't anticipate such an outburst. Perhaps I should give you my dad's email; you guys might really hit it off. As far as the post being inappropriate in some way, I'll leave my apology as it stands, but I must note that Rickie Lee Jones is an often discussed topic on this list, and politics have been a thread for weeks - it fits the suit just fine. - -Chris NP:Rickie Lee "I'm A Yankee Doodle Dandy" ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 06:50:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... Relayer wrote: > I'm just wondering where I should move to if bush > should win... How funny ... last night I crawled into bed fully convinced that Bush had won, and said to Mary, "Can we move to Canada?" Lori amazed in DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 14:55:21 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? (was: songs that evoke emotion, Beach Boys) > > > i forgot to mention that depending on the day, Im either 23 and a half or > I'm 17. ;) > well 20 22 sounds better than 42 and for Patric 20 19 sounds better than 39! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 07:04:27 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Have Yourself A Don/Larry Christmas! Unlike Joni, I don't particularly find Christmas itself "dreary" ... but I found my own collection of Christmas music becoming so. The solution seemed simple enough -- make some of your own! That being said (are you ready for the plug?), click on over to: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/38/don_rowe.html At these prices, surely there's a stocking out there somewhere in your life in need of stuffing! At the very least, let me know what you think ... it is not without some fear and trepidation that I put myself "out there" like this in the face of the considerable artistic and musical prowess of this JMDL. Thanks, Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 07:38:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Re: more birthdays NJC Happy birthday to Bonnie Raitt! 51 today! Lori in DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 12:50:42 -0300 From: mintagli@email.ypf.com.ar Subject: Re: Songs that invoke emotions (LJC) Now that you've mentioned Nick Drake, Victor, I have to say that the song that invokes the most emotions for me is "Northern Sky", off of "Bryter Layter". What an amazing thing that song is! Mariana >too many Joni songs to list but "Hejira" particularly invokes emotions Rush "2112" from 2112 Rush "Tears" from 2112 David Sylvian "Orpheus" from Secrets of the Beehive Grateful Dead "Box of Rain" Nick Drake "Fruit Tree" Nick Drake "Riverman" Stevie Wonder "You and I" Grateful Dead "Looks Like Rain" Victor> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:08:18 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Re: Big Sur/artists/folkies/riders, etc. (NJC) > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:25:21 -0800 > To: joni@smoe.org > From: Steve Dulson > Subject: Big Sur/artists/folkies/riders, etc. (NJC) > Reply-to: Steve Dulson > Mike Hicks wrote: > > >Did anyone see the Big Sur documentary last night? What struck me > >was how pure and laid back everything was. And, all the artists > >sitting in the background watching the others play. Could we have > >that today? > > Mike's post generated several thoughts. The Esalen Institute > is/was such a hard to reach, limited size place that the artists > no doubt felt a lot more comfortable than say, Woodstock. :) > Also, most of the artists came out of the folkie world (this > was the Big Sur FOLK Festival, remember) where it was the norm > for artists to mingle with each other and the common folks, > play several small workshop stages during the day, etc. > > Fortunately, the folkie world is still this way, and even the > big (for the genre) names like Tom Paxton, Eric Andersen, Garnet > Rogers, etc. are accessible at concerts and festivals. > > I have been booking a folk music concert series in Anaheim for > two years now, and have had to deal with several artist riders. > Nothing about little triangular sandwiches, fortunately! :) > About the most exotic requirement has been cranberry juice. > > Best, > > -- > ######################################################### > Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com > "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com > "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ > "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ I'm glad to hear that it can still be that way. I just went to a Patty Loveless concert at about a 400 seat venue. It was great. She had a 9 piece band and she was very personable and hospitable. I came away feeling "alright, this is the way I like it". Mike > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:33:25 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Icarus (NJC) Madeline, age 17, wrote: >Songs that always stir up emotions in me for different reasons: >Joni- Amelia... >Anne Lister- Icarus And Steve, aged 51, writes: Wow, Madeline - someone who knows Icarus! It is definitely one of the songs I want played at my funeral (hopefully no time soon!) along with I'll Fly Away and For a Dancer. I got to chat with Anne in February, and she says that she used to perform Icarus in a medley with.....Amelia!!! - -- ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:35:55 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? (was: songs that evoke emotion, Beach Boys) Since I don't do well with numbers ... I'll just say that two thousand minus one thousand nine hundred and sixty-three equals ... thirty-seven! ;-) Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 00:47:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - November 8 1996: Joni is taped for an appearance on the Rosie O'Donnell Show in New York City. - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:23:49 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... - --- "Lori R. Fye" wrote: > Relayer wrote: > > > I'm just wondering where I should move to if bush > > should win... > > How funny ... last night I crawled into bed fully > convinced that Bush had won, and said to Mary, "Can > we > move to Canada?" > A little advice here from a Canadian - wait until after OUR elections later this month. If Stockwell Day wins, you may be better off with Dubya. _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:25:52 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: birthday question - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > < Daughter referred to that > date > - "Those two bald-headed days in November". > Anyone??>> > > That's a good question...I always assumed that since > she was referring to the > time prior to when the snow fell, she was referring > to the "bald-headed" > mountains before they were covered with snow... > Or the bald heads of the leaveless trees before snow comes and covers everything up? _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:43:28 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? Another 47-yr old bat here, with the knees to prove it (ouch!) _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:00:36 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... In a message dated 11/8/00 1:36:49 PM, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: << If Stockwell Day wins, you may be better off with Dubya. >> I am so sick of you Canadians posting all your political stuff... Just kidding, of course. Since US news outlets seem to ignore Canada completely, I'd love to read about any issues that are important to Canadian listers. In fact, I am usually happy to read whatever JMDLers post, unlike the people on the list who would prefer to eliminate all political discussion. As long as NJC posts are labeled as such, I really don't understand the problem. Am I missing something here? Is Joni herself apolitical? People seem to feel free to discuss religion, sex, and any other issues they feel are important. Why should politics be singled out? Am I the only one with a 'delete' button? Besides politics, are there any other subjects we're not *supposed* to discuss? Thanks, --Bob PS: Keep counting those Florida votes, Jimmy! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:23:45 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: fortune cookies NJC - --- Hell wrote: > Stranger > things have happened - like me joining a gym, all > fired up to get fit for > summer, and suddenly realising today that the second > monthly payment has > come out of my account, and I've only been > once...... Tomorrow, definitely > tomorrow. Or maybe Friday? Whoa boy, does this sound familiar! I've been to the gym once since joining about a month ago and always find a reason NOT to go. Like I'm too busy at work. Too busy reading jmdl messages. Need to leave work early today and therefore can't go to the gym at lunchtime. There's $50/month down the drain! _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:26:25 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Rickie on The Election...(njc) (md) - --- MDESTE1@aol.com wrote: > All Rickey Lee Jones demonstrates with this > pathetically uninformed rant is > how well she fits into the profile of the Clinton > voter-supporter. I take it you're informed and not a Clinton supporter. _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 19:58:34 GMT From: leslie@torchsongs.com Subject: Jubilant Songs "The Only Joy In Town" as performed by Joni Mitchell "Beautiful" as performed by Carole King "Danny's Song" as performed by Loggins & Messina "This Land is Your Land" as performed by Woody Guthrie "All You Need Is Love" as performed by the Beatles "Blowin' Away" as performed by Laura Nyro Leslie Mixon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:57:50 -0800 (PST) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Re: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... ... maybe I'll go to San Francisco or Provincetown ... Bob asked: > Besides politics, are there any other subjects we're > not *supposed* to discuss? At the risk of starting another flame war -- oh hell, I just feel like rocking a boat today! -- *some* of us will agree that we are limited by *others* on the amount of time we can spend discussing *certain* issues. *We* know who *we* are! Lori in DC NPIMH: "Leaping Lesbians" by Meg Christian -- anyone remember it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 15:07:40 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Calling Coyote Rick!! Does anyone have a new e-mail address, or phone number for Rick Hobbs? His old one doesn't work, and I really need to get in touch with him! Thanks!! Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:17:13 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... - --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Since US news outlets seem > to ignore Canada > completely, I'd love to read about any issues that > are important to Canadian > listers. I have to admit I feel really depressed about our upcoming election. On the one hand, we have Jean Chretien, who has been Prime Minister for, what, six years now? and who really ought to retire. Maybe he isn't *that* old, but he has been in politics too long, is trying to be like Pierre Trudeau, but hasn't got a hope in hell of really being like him. I really don't like him but the other choices are: Stockwell Day of the whatever-the-hell Alliance, a right wing "Christian" who scares the living daylights out of me because you don't really know for sure where he's coming from and to top it off, he's pretty darn good-looking and athletic and all that and might just win on that basis. Other choices? Yikes! Alexa McDonough of the NDP - I like her but I don't think her party has a snowball's chance in hell. Likewise everybody else who's running. It boils down to a choice between yesterday's man (Chretien) and the scary Christian right so I guess I'll be voting for JC just because he's (IMO) the least of the possible evils with the best chance of winning. (Let it hereby be stated that my remarks about Day's Christian affiliation are not to be construed as anti-Christian. We're talking fundamentalism here, not belief in Christ's teachings.) >In fact, I am usually happy to read > whatever JMDLers post, unlike > the people on the list who would prefer to eliminate > all political > discussion. >As long as NJC posts are labeled as > such, I really don't > understand the problem. I'll 'fess up - I often enjoy the njc more than the jc! >Am I missing something here? > Is Joni herself > apolitical? Question - can Joni vote in the US elections? Is she an American citizen? >People seem to feel free to discuss > religion, sex, and any other > issues they feel are important. Why should politics > be singled out? Am I the > only one with a 'delete' button? > > Besides politics, are there any other subjects we're > not *supposed* to > discuss? There's a whole load of stuff that I'm not terribly interested in (although that depends on day of week, the mood I'm in and so on) but I would defend to the death (well maybe not death, OK?) people's right to talk about that stuff. If I'm not interested, I just delete 'em - in fact, sometimes I just select a whole bunch of stuff with the same title and delete the whole lot, thereby possibly missing out on some really good njc, but I've been too busy lately to read every one. I admit, I never find the top 10, top 5 of anything does much for me although every now and then I discover a few new artists or songs I might not otherwise be aware of. I hate rating things mostly because ... it depends on the day of week, the mood I'm in and so on, plus my fear of leaving somebody out of any such list. _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:23:03 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Treasure Trove o' Joni - --- Julian51469@aol.com wrote: > Hello dear friends, > It's been while since I've had time to read the > "list" but I litterally have > my hands full with a beautiful baby daughter by the > name of Lucy Iris ... > Well the other day the three of us were out for a > stroll in a glorious DC > fall day when we happened upon a yard sale on 16th > street... After a two > minutes of browsing I spied Joni's face on the cover > of a thin book peering > up from the grass and colored leaves. I'm torn. On the one hand, I'm insanely jealous of your wonderful Joni find. But the mama part of me is going, "Awwww". You have a lovely new baby daughter, so how could I possibly hate you? Wow - you are much blessed, my friend! _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 12:29:53 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Jubilant Songs Oooh ... I'll play: "Solid Love" -- Joni Mitchell "Underneath the Streetlight" -- Joni Mitchell "These Are Days" -- 10K Maniacs "We're In This Love Together" -- Al Jarreau "Love Shack" -- B52s "Slave To The Rhythm" -- Grace Jones "Oh Yeah" -- Roxy Music "Lookin' Out My Back Door" -- CCR "I Would Die 4U" -- Prince "Isn't She Lovely" -- Stevie Wonder ... so many more ... so little time! Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:12:36 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: RE: bassists > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:49:16 -0500 > To: joni@smoe.org > From: Susan McNamara > Subject: RE: bassists > Reply-to: Susan McNamara > Stanley Clarke: ref. Return to Forever Susan, Are you familiar with the Journey to Love album with an appearance by Jeff Beck? It is and incredible album. Mike > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:55:43 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Muggles NJC "kerry" wrote: >>I did read the first Harry Potter and I love the term, "muggles" referring >>to people without magic or imagination - just like a lot of politicians! Ironic, because ever since the 1920s a "muggle" is American hipster/jazz slang for a marijuana cigarette. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 15:56:57 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: loss of a loved one njc Sometimes life throw you a couple of bricks. The Joy Family is grieving the loss of their son-in-law Michael McCann III. My daughter and her husband have been seperated for some time now and some of you know already that Jim and I have had temporary custody of our granddaughter Anastasia for almost four years while these two have been trying to get their lives together. Michael suffered from a bipolar disorder which made it even more difficult for him. They had three children together. In addition to Anastasia they had a set of identical twin boys, Michael IV and Nicholas, 5yrs of age who reside with his parents. It is with deep sadness that I must share with you yet more bad news. Michael took his own life sometime late Wednesday evening. Some passer by discovered his body along side the conrail tracks in Edison, NJ late Friday afternoon. He had been released from the hospital two weeks prior due to his illness. I had no idea. Usually when things would flare he would call and we would talk. This time he did n't call. If you have anyone who suffers from depression, don't ignore your concerns, seek help for them. It is a very serious mental illness that effects 1- 5% of the adult population and causes great disturbances for them, their friends and family. Jim and I are just heartbroken over the loss of this young man and our grandchildren who must live life without their father. Anastasia doesn't know yet that his death was an apparent suicide, but I know I will have to tell her before she hears it from someone else. Little Nicholas cried out in church today during the services that he didn't like the way his father died. My heart just bleeds for them. Please pray for these children and his family in their time of greiving. Thanks for the bandwidth Rose in NJ NP Michael from Mountains ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:02:08 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: JMDL post question NJC I tried sending a post to the list in the days before the election consisting of Dan Savage's column on Nader ("Yes, yes, I know: Ralph is better on the issues. So's my mom.") and an essay by Todd Gitlin on Nader. Yes, I tagged it "NJC." Sent it twice; it never showed up. Anyone have any idea why? Is there a size limitation, and if so, what is it? Thanks, Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 17:06:05 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL post question NJC Fred, <> Have you upgraded to 6.0? If so.... many of us who have upgraded have not been able to get mail through. Les says that it is bouncing because it is coming through html, instead of regular text. In calling AOL, they (of course!) say there is nothing they can do about it. However... you can go to www.aol.com and send mail to the list from there. It works fine, as I sent some messages to the list today that way. A HUGE pain in the ass, but it works. Hope that is of some help. Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 22:24:37 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... > > > At the risk of starting another flame war -- oh hell, > I just feel like rocking a boat today! -- *some* of us > will agree that we are limited by *others* on the > amount of time we can spend discussing *certain* > issues. Really? Surely not here on the JMDL? Lori, maybe you are being paranoid? We can discuss anything here. Well, except for you know what...... > > > *We* know who *we* are! > > Lori > in DC > > NPIMH: "Leaping Lesbians" by Meg Christian -- anyone > remember it? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 22:35:05 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: JMDL post question NJC I had several tries with AOL and hated it. The support here was awful. They didn't even know how to access their own AOL sites! I have a different ISP and use Netscape because I also hate IE and OE. Appalling both of them. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 22:27:48 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... > Stockwell > Day of the whatever-the-hell Alliance, a right wing > "Christian" who scares the living daylights out of me > because you don't really know for sure where he's > coming from and to top it off, he's pretty darn > good-looking and athletic and all that and might just > win > on that basis. If he won, the USA might like you Canadians better! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 16:21:49 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Attention: all AOL users Fred wrote: >Sent it twice; it never showed up. Anyone have any idea why? Is there >a size limitation, and if so, what is it? And Ashara responded: >Have you upgraded to 6.0? If so.... many of us who have upgraded have not >been able to get mail through. 'Tis unfortunately true. AOL 6.0 has been written without the ability to send out plain text mail. The Smoe servers are set to reject all formatted mail. Smoe and AOL are both working on a fix (see the message from Smoe below) but until one of them arrives at one, AOL 6.0 users are out of luck. My sincere apologies - hopefully this situation will be resolved soon. Les Smoe's message: >it seems that the latest version of aol (6.0) does not currently have a >setting to allow their users to send plan-text mail. as a result, you will >probably see an increase in bounced messages since >smoe's majordomo is configured to bounce all html-formatted mail for all >lists. > >aol says they are developing a >fix for this but they haven't finished it yet and don't know when they will >have it available. > >incidentially, [we at smoe] decided that we're going to install demime on >smoe. demime will strip non-text mime attachments out of all list-bound >mail which will, hopefully, solve this problem for us. as you can imagine, >it's a lot easier to beat this on our end since there are too many mailers >to keep track of anymore. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:36:28 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... Bob "Bubba" Murphy asks: << Besides politics, are there any other subjects we're not *supposed* to discuss? >> Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens. Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens. Brown paper packages tied up with strings, and Marcel's age :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:39:23 -0600 From: "Eric Wilcox" Subject: In the wake of AOL problems-- a question - NJC A question for the JMDLers. Why is it that the JMDL sticks to the antiquated listerserv type e-mail list? A group of people could easily go through a server such as egroups-- but I think an almost better move would be some sort of bulletin board. For example http://www.atforumz.com is a board specifically form Tori Amos fans-- and yet has all sorts of sections for discussing non-Tori related information, etc. etc. etc. To make the JMDL work-- I've had to specifically format my Outlook so that posts are separeated from general e-mail. It seems like so much hassle. Perhaps this discussion has already taken place before I found the JMDL. Just a thought- eric - --- eric wilcox edwilcox@students.wisc.edu "It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious." -Oscar Wilde - --- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:48:27 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: "I'm A Yankee Doodle Dandy" njc what album is that on??????? wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Christopher J. Treacy Enviado el: Miércoles, 08 de Noviembre de 2000 11:41 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: - -Chris NP:Rickie Lee "I'm A Yankee Doodle Dandy" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 19:04:38 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Newspaper Headlines (NJC) Just curious if this happened in any other U.S. cities: I went outside to get our morning newspaper and the headlines read: BUSH WINS!!! When I got to work this morning, a co-worker brought in the same (our only newspaper), and it read: ELECTION STILL UNDECIDED!!!! Is this something I should save to sell on e-bay? LOL Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:16:19 -0000 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: In the wake of AOL problems-- a question - NJC > Why is it that the JMDL sticks to the antiquated listerserv type e-mail > list? A group of people could easily go through a server such as > egroups-- > but I think an almost better move would be some sort of bulletin > board. For > example http://www.atforumz.com is a board specifically form Tori Amos > fans-- and yet has all sorts of sections for discussing non-Tori related > information, etc. etc. etc. > > To make the JMDL work-- I've had to specifically format my Outlook so that > posts are separeated from general e-mail. It seems like so much hassle. > Perhaps this discussion has already taken place before I found the JMDL. A big reason to use e-mail is that you can batch the download of messages. i.e. if I dial up four times a day to pick up my e-mail, with calls of ten minutes apiece, I spend 40 minutes a day online. Arbitrary example, I know, but I'm going somewhere :) The advantage of this is that I can then go and read all my Joni messages as and when I please, without having to remain online to do the reading. My modem can download the messages into my mail program far faster than I could read the messages on a web site. Also, the forums such as atforumz use a system called UBB (Ultimate Bulletin Board). These are very good at seperating individual threads on conversation, but less good at giving users a clear idea of whether or not a thread has had new articles added to it since their last visit. Some do, some don't. Whatever, these capabilities rely on your web browser working properly and being up to date - which is a whole other can of worms. For instance, if you don't use cookies, because of security concerns, then tough donuts: lots of the "nice" features of UBB don't work so well. egroups adds advertising to a lot of their stuff, particularly their mailing list stuff. Their mailing lists, in particular, aren't that reliable (ask me how I know). And the problem w.r.t. AOL is not that we're on an "antiquated" listserv (they're not antiquated, and they are not falling out of use on the Internet) but rather that AOL have made a brain dead decision to deny people the luxury of sending plain text e-mail. This is probably to force people to tell their freinds to use AOL (if I'm being cynical.) HTML formatted e-mail is a pain in the butt. It means that the recipient does not get to choose how they view their e-mail, depending on the capabilities of their system: i.e. screen resolution, clarity, available fonts, not to mention the state of their eyes! HTML e-mail that heads my way tends to get filed in the bin: especially those messages with purple text on a green background. The listserv/majordomo approach works well, and the only faff for users is that they need to set up some auto filing in their e-mail program: a once only operation. Most PCs are quite adequtely provided for in terms of processor and disc space, so it's now pretty realistic to let your e-mail client do auto archiving/deleting of items over a certain age, which simplifies housekeeping. Or, like me, you just keep the lot ;) Just some thoughts :) - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 00:31:24 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: In the wake of AOL problems-- a question - NJC This list is fine as it is. Egroups-you get all the advertising junk. Boards are too slow and pretty crap in my opinion. They also take a long time to view and write to. Not good for those who pay for their pnoneline to the Net. les has done a good job bringing us all together her on this list. It works. Can you imagine people haveing to trawl thru all those messages on a board they don't want to read? How tiresome. Eric Wilcox wrote: > A question for the JMDLers. > > Why is it that the JMDL sticks to the antiquated listerserv type e-mail > list? A group of people could easily go through a server such as egroups-- > but I think an almost better move would be some sort of bulletin board. For > example http://www.atforumz.com is a board specifically form Tori Amos > fans-- and yet has all sorts of sections for discussing non-Tori related > information, etc. etc. etc. > > To make the JMDL work-- I've had to specifically format my Outlook so that > posts are separeated from general e-mail. It seems like so much hassle. > Perhaps this discussion has already taken place before I found the JMDL. > > Just a thought- > eric > > --- > eric wilcox > edwilcox@students.wisc.edu > > "It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either > charming or tedious." -Oscar Wilde > --- - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:37:12 -0000 From: "Steve" Subject: re Ages..the oldest JMDLer in town....never too old to Rock'n'Roll zelda wrote <<<<>>> But zelda, you ain't to young to rock'n'roll WOW , how cool, and I'm old enough to be your GRANDFATHER, clocking in at a geriatric 52,( going on 26). I reckon that makes me the oldest JMDLer to declare ;~) As someone who, as a contemporary of Joni's, grew up listening to her music as it evolved I've generally thought that her appeal would be to people of *our own* age group. Silly me. This thread has proved that as we all know joni's music appeals to all colours, creeds, and dare I mention political persuasions, that Joni's music is timeless and also appeals to all ages. But it just goes to show how Joni's music will stand the test of time., generations to come will still be enjoying her music long after we're all gone. From reading this thread I'm delighted how many age groups, and especially teenagers, are still finding the same kind enjoyment in Joni's lyrics as I did 30 years ago. Rose wrote <<< I'm 47 years gettin old. I saw my neurosurgeon tonight. Soon as he saw me, which he hasn't in three years, said Mrs. Joy, you never change, you always look the same. Really, I asked? What a charmer he is :~) A real ladies man>>>>>>>> Which made me think that a few years ago at the age of 45 I was still playing amateur league football, but the old legs were beginning to creak seriously, and a visit to the doc was called for. He refered me to a specialist, as they all do, and he diagnosed that I had severe arthritis through playing contact sport for so long. " But Doc," I said " I only thought old people got arthritis ?".......with a smile on his face he said " Steve, you may be only 45, but your knees are 90 !!!!!! " :~)))) So Rose, with that kind of expert logic. That makes you only 23 and a half, it's your back that's 47. It's called lateral thinking, or something. And zelda well she's only really 8, God aren't Joni's fans getting younger all the time, Britney eat your heart out. Steve.......the impossible dreamer..............wonder if Joni's ready for a toy boy ?????????? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 18:46:38 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: TGIAO (NJC) on 11/7/00 6:28 AM, Mark or Travis at mark.travis@gte.net wrote: > > >> Well it's almost over now. They just need to count up the ballots to > see who >> the next poor bastard is, that we will spend the next four years (at > least) >> trying to rip him apart. Frankly all this political bull shit > (especially in >> this forum) is wearing me down. It makes me physically ill to think > of all >> the money these assholes wasted on THIS election (especially with > THESE >> choices). When I think of the all this money that was wasted and > think about >> the impact such a huge volume of green back dollars could do to > actually >> make a positive change in so many sick, hungry, poor lives, it makes > me want >> to puke. Yes thank God it's almost over. >> >> Peace >> >> Michael > > > I'll give this an AMEN, Brother Michael! > > Mark in Seattle > > Hi Mark- Thanks! Can you believe what is happening now. It's all such a FREAK SHOW. My gawd everyone was just beside themselves all thru the evening last night and today at work. I took some clients out for dinner last night and we talked about it the whole time. But then my dear friend Denise Marie (who performed Furry and Blue Motel Room at Jonifest New Orleans) saved me and we went down to HOB to see Eliades Ochoa. OH MY GAWD!!!! I totally forgot about everything in the world for 2 hours (and I only planned to stay for a few songs). HE WAS UNBELIEVABLE! What powerful music and such a strong spirit he is. If anyone sees this guy playing in your area do your self a favor and check him out. I am off to Tower tomorrow to buy his solo record, I already have BuenaVista Social Club CD and DVD. Well i have to dash and turn on the damn TV to see when the world is coming to an end. Michael ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #588 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?