From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #586 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, November 7 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 586 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Sign up for VideoTree #2 now: http://www.jmdl.com/trading ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- the sky forever rushing ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: a few things NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Joni Songs that make me cry ["karla subero" ] NJC Ages, anyone? [Robert Holliston ] Tear jerkers and smile raisers [AzeemAK@aol.com] VOTE (njc), sad and happy songs, someone's b-day!! ["Sue Cameron" ] Joni artwork content [Loren Carter ] election day (njc) [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: Oh so sad songs [Kate & CJ ] Re: TGIAO (NJC) ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Oh so sad songs ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? [Jerry Notaro ] To Joni.. ["Russell Bowden" ] Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: taxation without representation NJC ["Lori R. Fye" ] birthday question [GREYC1@aol.com] RE: To Joni.. ["Peg Eves" ] Re: TGIAO & Ages [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] An interesting coincidence about Joni's birthday and her appearance on Letterman four years ago [Mark Domyanci] Re: VOTE (njc), sad and happy songs, someone's b-day!! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: birthday question [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: taxation without representation NJC [Janet Hess ] green day covers byt [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: 5 songs that invoke emotion vljc ["Susan" ] JM cover [jan gyn ] Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? (was: songs that evoke emotion, Beach Boys) [Bria] Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? (was: songs that evoke emotion, Beach Boys) [Bria] Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? (was: songs that evoke emotion, Beach Boys) [Bria] Great & Sad Songs ["Kate Bennett" ] From Rose NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Oh So Sad Songs NJC ["Susan" ] Re: bushy boy(NJC) ["Susan" ] [none] ["c Karma" ] Today in Joni History - November 7 [Today in Joni History ] RE: today's birthdays - vljc ["Wally Kairuz" ] HAPPY BIRTHDAY JONI!! [Susan McNamara ] Re: Great & Sad Songs ["Kakki" ] Re: taxation without representation NJC ["Kakki" ] Re: Today in MY Joni history ["Victor Johnson" ] Distort the Future President (NJC) ["Lori R. Fye" ] joni's bday ["joe farrell" ] Re: Songs that invoke emotions (LJC) ["Victor Johnson" Subject: the sky forever rushing it is that bald-headed day in november before the first snowflakes sail, and our joni is having her 57th birthday. when i first heard joni, she was younger that i am now. time prevails. here we sit or lie or stand, her fate the imminence of winter, mine the pollen and the sudden showers. when i started studying, reading, thinking joni, kith and kin would always refer to her as ''your joni''. ''your joni is on TV''; ''your joni is draining your brain -- look at your grades!''; ''your joni is a whore, a slut, a screamer''. my mother's favorite anti-joni remark was ''your joni sings as if she were giving herself a douche.'' i was on my way to becoming a highly self-assured slut myself, and although i would never enjoy the prerogative of douches, i found it very appropriate that my gentle relations should have names they must call joni and me. i was a member of a writers' workshop once, maybe 25 years ago. last thursday, the woman that once led the workshop, a woman that must be 90 years old today, looked my number up and after 20 years of silence decided to call me at almost midnight. she just wanted to say that she had found an old tape of one of her lectures, this one a special case since it had been a conference she had given in washington d.c. in 1980. she had been invited to talk about buenos aires and its poets and most especially buenos aires poets that wrote about buenos aires. she went to washington carrying a selection of the works of only two poets: jorge luis borges and me. on the tape she played over the phone i could hear her younger voice say, ''a 19-year-old genius wrote this poem, blah, blah blah.'' she was talking about me, that 19-year-old genius, and also about me, the 19-year-old genius that never lived up to his promise. she played her tape over the phone while i paced up and down the kitchen, opening the refrigerator and thinking what i would have for dinner. then out of the blue, she shot the old familiar question: ''so how's your joni?'' and i said, ''she's fine, she's turning 57 this week.'' eventually, the lady got off my case, and i fixed dinner. wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 06:19:24 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: a few things NJC marian, so glad to hear from you!!!!!!!! and you've been your old posting self. what a blessing! keep it up, my angel. love, wally - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Marian Enviado el: Viernes, 03 de Noviembre de 2000 02:23 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: a few things NJC John is a lot better! I've been in serious lurk mode for awhile, though. NP: Black Coffee - All Saints ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 02:31:28 MST From: "karla subero" Subject: Re: Joni Songs that make me cry Little Green just to start off.... When I think about the young woman who had the GUTS to spill her guts about her 'little green'. 'call her green and the winters cannot fade her, call her green for the children who have made her/weary of lies you are sending home/ Little green, have a happy ending' My sentimental little heart just breaks. (but at least we know Joni did find her 'little green') Chinese Cafe/Unchained Melody 'Caught in the middle, Carol we're middle-classes, we're middle-aged, we were wild in the old days, birth of rock and roll days/ Uranium money is booming in the old hometown now, putting up sleek concrete tearing the old landmarks down, paving over brave little parks, ripping off Indian land again/Nothing lasts for long/ Christmas is sprakling out on Carol's lawn. This girl of my childhood days has kids nearly grown and gone. Grown so fast like the turn of a page' Song For Sharon 'A woman I knew just drowned herself, the well was deep and muddy. She was just shaking off futility or punishing somebody/It seems we all live so close to that line and so far from satisfaction' Refuge of the Roads 'I fell in with some drifters cast upon a beachtown. Winn-Dixie cold-cuts and highway hand-me-downs. And I would up fixing dinner for them and Boston Jim. I well up with affection thinking back down the raods to them' _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 02:42:13 MST From: "karla subero" Subject: I am a lonely painter... Ok, so maybe 'lonely' isnt quite right...but I am a painter! A painter who happens to attend the ALberta College of Art (& Design) which as all true Joni-philes know was the place Joni 'studied' for a year before painting with words (and enthralling us all) I've painted the words "I am a lonely painter I live in a box of paints" on my studio wall. Maybe they'll be somehow inspirational, I don't know. I must admit, I am lonely in one way: I have not found anyone else who likes Joni's stuff as much as I do in my present residence of education. But then, how many 20-25 year-olds are interested in truly great music? BSB ...more like BS... which incidentally, are Britney Spears' initials...I see a pattern here... I would probably never have known how truly excellent Joni is had I not been looking at the CBC the night they aired Joni's magical 'Painting With Words and Music'. That's when the spell was cast! I went to the library and checked out 'Hejira' and 'Dog Eat Dog'. The rest as they say was history. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 02:03:37 -0800 From: Robert Holliston Subject: NJC Ages, anyone? I'll bite - on October 11, I turned 45. And responding very late to another poll, I live in Victoria, B.C., which is particularly beautiful on these Autumn nights. Forty-f*ckin'-five!!?? I still can't quite believe it! I don't act a day over16!! I toast my fellow JMDLers who were also born in 1955: it was a damn good year.... Three albums that defined my mid-teen years: Ladies of the Canyon, Mud Slide Slim, and Christmas and the Beads of Sweat. Joni has been part of my life for almost two thirds of it. Nothing comes easier than praising Joni Mitchell. Unless it is the JMDL itself. Thank you, Les, for this great gift! In January, I'll be visiting Boston and New York for the fourth time each. I'd never travelled to either city until I joined the list; my first visits were to meet people with whom I'd become friends via JMDL email. (The highlight of my last trip to London was meeting Colin and John). Now I am counting the days until I can spend time with people who have become close and dearly loved friends. Let us now praise the JMDL!! We occasionally have our differences. Our love of Joni Mitchell brought us together, but our interest in one another has made us a community. Go figure! love to all, Roberto ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 06:54:46 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Tear jerkers and smile raisers These are the ones that fuel the waterworks: Oh My My - Jane Siberry In My Dream - Jane Siberry Together Alone - Crowded House Always There - Christine Collister Tears Idle Tears - Caroline Trettine The Morning Fog - Kate Bush Just To Keep You Satisfied - Marvin Gaye Who Knows Where the Time Goes - Sandy Denny/Fairport Convention Hejira - Joni [I have been known to go dewy eyed listening to the album, wondering at its sheer poetic beauty] These ones raise my spirits and make me want to RAISE THE VOLUME: Snow In Central Park - Jackie Leven Lucky - Lewis Taylor Help Me - Joni Wall of Death - Richard & Linda Thompson Long Snake Moan - PJ Harvey Stay - David Bowie Well what a day - Joni Mitchell's birthday! (oh, and apparently there's some election going on somewhere) Azeem in London NP: Taming the Tiger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 07:40:40 -0500 From: "Sue Cameron" Subject: VOTE (njc), sad and happy songs, someone's b-day!! Just went out and voted. Folks were waiting in line at 6:30 a.m. in my district. US citizents please cast your ballot today. I wouldn't dream of telling you how to vote, just exercise your privilege to do so. Such a wonderful gift and so many individuals take it for granted. Not sure if this song was listed, but "Imagine" by John Lennon always makes me cry, no matter where I am or what the circumstances are. When I first heard of his death on the radio they followed the announcement with "Imagine". This song will be forever linked to the sad news of John Lennon's passing for me. Happy songs...there is one guilty pleasure that I must confess to..."Walking on Sunshine" by???? That song always gets my feet up to dance. Happy Birthday Joni! Sue Cameron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 07:42:37 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re:AGES (NJC) In a message dated 11/6/00 11:36:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, db.ireland@usa.net writes: << I was also wondering what the age group here was? I'm 20..(soon to be legal enough to toss a few back).. >> Welcome to the JMDL Danielle! I'm 44 (soon to be old enough to toss my back out ) :~) Happy Happy Birthday Joni Dear!!! You're 57 and beautiful! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:47:43 -0300 From: mintagli@email.ypf.com.ar Subject: Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? (was: songs that evoke emotion, Beach Boys) >Give it up, y'all! How old are you?> I'm 23 (not that I think anyone could care). And, regarding the other thread, some Antonio Carlos Jobim songs really make my bones feel as if they were made of water, like no one else's, especially "Canta" and "Derradeira Primaveira" (probably not the right title). Joni songs that do it for me, at this point of my life: "The Same Situation" and "Just Like This Train" (but that one can make me laugh too). Mariana, in Argentina ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:00:03 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: Songs (and musicals) that evoke emotion NJC You wrote: >>>I don't know if any of you have seen the play, Rent, but it's one of my favorites, and the "I'll cover you Reprise" always brings out tears in me.>>> YES. I was going to post about Rent. Talk about a range of emotions in one play! I received the CD as a gift a few years ago and listened to the whole thing at once. When I ended up sobbing in my living room, I knew I had to see it live. Also, has anyone ever heard the Kathy Mattea song, "Where've You Been?" It's slightly sappy, but I can't hear it without totally breaking down! Kerry ------------------------------ Date: 7 Nov 00 08:58:29 EST From: Loren Carter Subject: Joni artwork content All, A while back I ordered the Voices art exhibit cataloge and poster from the Mendel museum where Joni had just exhibited her work. Well, the cataloge came, but the poster did not, so I sent another e-mail up there asking "what's up with that?". Well, a person named Lana answered back to write that the poster was shipped separately, and was in the works, and apologized for the entire situation. I answered back that since this was a Christmas present, there was no urgency to the situation, I just wanted to know, and since my wife and I are Joni-philes, if there were any residual Joni materials at the museum, I'd be interested in their purchase, to which she replied.... Quote I'm sure she will love the poster and catalogue. We have only heard good about both, so it will be a great Christmas gift. We don't, however, have any other items available. If you are interested though, Joni does sell prints of her artwork retailing for around $250 Canadian. Let me know and I can forward the pertinant info to her manager for him to contact you directly to make arrangements. Thank you again and all the best :o) Lana Unquote The sentence where she could place me in contact with Joni's manager to purchase prints of her artwork really perked my ears up. I think I'll reach out to Lana to see what happens. After all, my wife does have a birthday coming up. If anyone wants Ms. Lana's address at the Mendel, pleae let me know, and I'll send it along. Sharingly, Loren NP...sounds of my tapping of keyboard keys ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:20:03 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: election day (njc) Just two words - please vote. and now a short story: Last year, I got to go into one of the polling places after the polls closed to witness the election officials (who are volunteers) opening the machines and reading off the results. (For those who don't know, in local elections, candidates send a representative to each polling place to gather the results. That way, they can tally the results as soon as all their representatives call in or bring to results to their headquarters.) I'll be doing it again tonight. There's something almost thrilling about seeing this. I hope that somewhere they'll be reading off results that include your vote! lots of love Anne p.s. Happy Birthday, Joni! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 09:30:29 -0500 From: Kate & CJ Subject: Re: Oh so sad songs I've lurked so long, but had to chime - this song is in the massive goosebumps category for me. Every time I hear it...even though I know he's about to sing it! > She said, "Tell me are you a Christian, child?" > I said, "Ma'm, _I_ _AM_ _tonight_." ' Speaking of goosebumps - NY Metro people and visitors - GO SEE LILY TOMLIN on Broadway!!! Just saw her Sunday in Princeton. Another goosebump experience. Thats all folks...post on! CJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 06:28:12 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: TGIAO (NJC) > Well it's almost over now. They just need to count up the ballots to see who > the next poor bastard is, that we will spend the next four years (at least) > trying to rip him apart. Frankly all this political bull shit (especially in > this forum) is wearing me down. It makes me physically ill to think of all > the money these assholes wasted on THIS election (especially with THESE > choices). When I think of the all this money that was wasted and think about > the impact such a huge volume of green back dollars could do to actually > make a positive change in so many sick, hungry, poor lives, it makes me want > to puke. Yes thank God it's almost over. > > Peace > > Michael I'll give this an AMEN, Brother Michael! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 06:47:45 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Oh so sad songs > Speaking of goosebumps - NY Metro people and visitors - GO SEE > LILY TOMLIN on Broadway!!! Just saw her Sunday in Princeton. > Another goosebump experience. > Thats all folks...post on! > CJ > Yes, but is it soup or art? Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 09:52:21 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? Turned 50 this year. Not bad. Though turning 40 sucked. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 07:19:06 PST From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: To Joni.. Dear Joni Mitchell, Hope you are having the most bestest birthday ever. Thanks for the joy. Love, Russ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:20:30 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? In a message dated 11/7/00 9:56:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, notaro@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu writes: << Though turning 40 sucked. >> i turned 39 this year. it was better than turning 28. 28 sucked for me. 39 was kind of liberating. 40 doesn't look pretty. but 39 feels good. patrick np. d. henley - the genie - can't get the genie back in the bottle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 07:59:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Re: taxation without representation NJC Kakki asked: > What options or recourse do the DC'ers have to > champion their position? Other than competition, > what are the Republicans' official policy stance on > this issue? Barbara will know more about this than I (I live in MD and only work in DC), but very recently there was a big push -- and I think city council voted in favor of it -- to have "Taxation without Representation" printed on the new DC license plates. Later I heard that the idea was being reconsidered (of course). However, I think DC should go for it! Lori at work in DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:00:43 EST From: GREYC1@aol.com Subject: birthday question I was always under the impression that Joni's birthday was November 11. I always thought the line in Don Juan's Reckless Daughter referred to that date - - "Those two bald-headed days in November". Anyone?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:32:33 -0500 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: To Joni.. I love that birthday message to Joni, Russ. A great idea. Peg > ----- > Russ > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:03:20 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: TGIAO & Ages <> And if Robert's Rules of order call for a Second, I'll second that motion... Thanks to all those who resisted the urge to post political! And in a similar vein...I'll state my age, which is 43, which is probably a pretty popular age in this group. The only reason I hesitated is because... IT SIMPLY DOESN'T MATTER! I love this group because we're united around something that does - the truth and beauty, the painting with words & music of the greatest composer of our lifetimes, Joni Mitchell. It matters not that we're young & old, black, white, or other, straight or gay (or other, I suppose), male or female, whatever... I'm proud & blessed to be a part of it. Happy birthday to you Joni, and happy day to Bill & Myrtle too! Bob NP: U2, "Out of Control" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:05:16 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: An interesting coincidence about Joni's birthday and her appearance on Letterman four years ago Hey out there, Isn't this interesting? Four years ago Joni performed on Letterman, which was also an election day, and now four years later it is her birthday and another elction day. Put that in your pipe and smoke it! :-/*~~~ NP-The Slip, 6/7/96 - Farmgirl - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:08:36 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: VOTE (njc), sad and happy songs, someone's b-day!! <> That would be Katrina & The Waves...the whole record is actually good, but not as good as that song! I remember being at the beach and when the radio played it, I had to pop up and start dancing in the sand! Shades of Beach Blanket Bingo! :~) Bob NP: U2, "A Day Without Me" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:12:59 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: birthday question <> That's a good question...I always assumed that since she was referring to the time prior to when the snow fell, she was referring to the "bald-headed" mountains before they were covered with snow... Bob NP: U2, "Another Time, Another Place" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:40:23 -0500 From: Janet Hess Subject: Re: taxation without representation NJC Cheerz, palz...I pop in and out of the Joni discussions from time to time (although the posts sit here in my Joni mailbox tempting me), but I couldn't pass up this particular subject line. The first "Taxation Without Representation" license plates were issued, accompanied by a marching band (no less), last Saturday, at a rally featuring many DC elected officials, including the world's best nonvoting member of Congress, Eleanor Holmes Norton. I'm about to leave my apartment and walk up the hill to vote for Eleanor...for what it's worth (and it's not not not worth the very same taxation rates paid by those of you who have real representation, I'm sure, but there I go again). I know, I know. If I don't like it, I can move. But that would upset Deanna Ivy the Wonderkitty no end, I'm afraid, and besides, this is home. As one who knows just how much a vote matters, I urge all US Joni listers to get out there today and vote. Hugz, Janet and Deanna, who seems to understand that it's election day (possibly because I've been marching around the apartment humming Sousa marches and trying to figure out where to display a license plate when I don't have a car) At 07:59 AM 11/7/2000 -0800, Lori R. Fye wrote: >Barbara will know more about this than I (I live in MD >and only work in DC), but very recently there was a >big push -- and I think city council voted in favor of >it -- to have "Taxation without Representation" >printed on the new DC license plates. > > - -------------- You've got to shake your fists at lightning now You've got to roar like forest fire You've got to spread your light like blazes All across the sky Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:31:30 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: today's birthdays - vljc Who shares Joni's birthday? From http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20001106/us/history_153.html Today's Birthdays: Evangelist Billy Graham is 82. Opera singer Dame Joan Sutherland is 74. Singer Mary Travers is 63. Actor Barry Newman is 62. Singer Johnny Rivers is 58. Singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell is 57. Singer Nick Gilder is 49. Actor Christopher Knight (``The Brady Bunch'') is 43. Actor Christopher Daniel Barnes is 28. Actors Jeremy and Jason London are 28. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:51:05 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Today in MY Joni history Two years ago today was the first time I saw Joni in concert. It was in Atlanta and was one of the highlights of my life. She was better than I could have imagined, and it was even more special since it was her birthday. I also met my first JMDLer (Hi Pearl!!!). Since my group had to fly up from Fort Myers, we were late in getting to Einstine's for the pre-concert get together. I did get to meet Pearl, Marsha, and I think I briefly met Paul I. while at the concert. I know Mr. Muller was there, since I saw restroom signs that read : MEN WOMEN and one sign that had the word SLUTS on it :~) What other JMDLer's were at that concert? Just wanted to relive that wonderful evening! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:54:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Re: taxation without representation NJC Janet wrote: > Cheerz, palz...I pop in and out of the Joni > discussions from time to time Janet! Ya know, I almost wrote "Barbara and Janet will know more about this ..." but I wasn't sure if you were still with us! It's nice to *see* you again! > The first "Taxation Without Representation" license > plates were issued, accompanied by a marching band > (no less), last Saturday WOO HOO! I'll keep my eyes peeled as I trek around K Street at lunchtime! > trying to figure out where to display a license > plate when I don't have a car) Got a front window??? Lori, smiling in DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:04:13 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: green day covers byt Green Day performed "Big Yellow Taxi" at a rally in San Francisco on Sunday. The rally was in support of musicians who have been displaced by music venues that have closed due to rising rents, which allegedly has been caused by the encroachment of tech companies. For the whole story, go to: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/so/20001107/en/green_day_headline_rally_for_san_f rancisco_music_scene_1.html --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:34:26 -0600 From: "Susan" Subject: Re: 5 songs that invoke emotion vljc Kakki wrote: > The only two Joni songs that immediately mainlined straight into my heart > and made me cry were her new versions of Case of You and Both Sides Now. > >> I'll Follow The Sun - The Beatles >> Prisoner in Disguise - Linda Ronstadt >> Galveston - Jimmy Webb newer version >> Friends - Elton John >> Ribbon In The Sky - Stevie Wonder (oh big time) >> Well so far Kakki your selections are batting nearly 1000. Galveston may be the only one I would not cry over, but I'm just not that familiar with it. Just cried the other day over "I'll Follow The Sun." I am not sure I can limit my list to just 5, because although I am a big mouth - I am also the biggest crybaby! So on any given day - any song may apply! Really I think it's just like favorite songs different days, moods, phases etc. can change those choices. I would like to add that a happy songs make me cry as well, noting Kakki's choice of "Friends." For me, "Night in the City" fills me up with joy to the point of tears. Other songs that quickly come to mind as pure tearjerkers are; Imagine, Your Song, A Case of You (any version), Cold Blue Steel, Circle Game (it seems so simple but it is so sweet & profound) and I know I will think of at least 10 more this week! Enjoying this thread through the tears! Peace Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:29:56 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: JM cover From 'Mr. Showbiz': (snip) >Seeking to make one of Hollywood's most drastic comebacks, formerly >imprisoned actor Robert Downey Jr. is determined to make his star shine >brighter than it did during his 1980s climb to fame. > >The brown-eyed thespian was released from jail in August and immediately >accepted an offer to play a recurring role as Calista Flockhart's love >interest on Fox's Ally McBeal. Now Downey is singing the blues - >figuratively speaking - on an Ally-spawned holiday album, A Very Ally >Christmas, due in stores Tuesday. > >According to Variety, the actor covers Joni Mitchell's anthem "River" and >duets with Ally songbird Vonda Shepard on "White Christmas." We're hoping >that the former cocaine abuser sings the latter tune with at least a >teensy-weensy hint of irony, if ya get our (snow-free) drift. > >"He's such a good actor and it translates musically as well," Shepard >recently told Reuters. "I think his passion and his pain and his longing >come out through his voice." (snip) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:39:54 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? (was: songs that evoke emotion, Beach Boys) > Nancy also asked: > > > Anyone know if list members represent a particular > > age group? I'm just curious. :-) Brian of South Jersey USA is still 45 till later this month, when the birthday party keeps getting smaller as JFK Jr and Joltin' Joe are both gone but Jim Lamadamadoo and I are both still here. Just read my fortune from today's chinese lunch and it reads: "It is better to have a hen tomorrow than an egg today." Does this mean that it's better to have a breast for tomorrow's lunch than an omelette for tonight's dinner? I'm so confused ;-) Back to the pressure cooker here :-( Brian nc: 15 more nights :-))> ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:43:56 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? (was: songs that evoke emotion, Beach Boys) > Nancy also asked: > > > Anyone know if list members represent a particular > > age group? I'm just curious. :-) Brian of South Jersey USA is still 45 till later this month, when the birthday party keeps getting smaller as JFK Jr and Joltin' Joe are both gone but Jim Lamadamadoo and I are both still here. Just read my fortune from today's chinese lunch and it reads: "It is better to have a hen tomorrow than an egg today." Does this mean that it's better to have a breast for tomorrow's lunch than an omelette for tonight's dinner? I'm so confused ;-) Back to the pressure cooker here :-( Brian nc: 15 more nights :-))> ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:46:02 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? (was: songs that evoke emotion, Beach Boys) > Nancy also asked: > > > Anyone know if list members represent a particular > > age group? I'm just curious. :-) Brian of South Jersey USA is still 45 till later this month, when the birthday party keeps getting smaller as JFK Jr and Joltin' Joe are both gone but Jim Lamadamadoo and I are both still here. Just read my fortune from today's chinese lunch and it reads: "It is better to have a hen tomorrow than an egg today." Does this mean that it's better to have a breast for tomorrow's lunch than an omelette for tonight's dinner? I'm so confused ;-) Back to the pressure cooker here :-( Brian nc: 15 more nights :-))> ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:54:39 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Great & Sad Songs I SO agree with you on Cole Porter and just THINKING about that M McD singing that songs practically brings me to tears. Brenda said, "Cole Porter is one of the greatest writers. Ever. and "I Can Let Go Now" - Michael McDonald - There's so much sadness in his voice and in his songs. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 14:21:51 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: From Rose NJC Hi gang...Rose asked me to forward this... Well, I drove all the way to Easton, PA tonight to get a second opinion from my neurosurgeon who did my original neck surgery back in 1990. According to Dr Barry, NO WAY! He advised me that in his opinion what he saw on the MRI films were was foraminal stenosis and NOT a herniated disc. He also said the radiologist's report was sloppy. So there ya go, see that. What that means in laymen's terms is that I have bone spurs narrowing the space where the nerve passes through and yes they do encroach a little on the spinal cord, but not to warrant neurosurgery at this time. He prescribed 6 weeks of physical therapy and a soft cervical neck collar. So we're gonna try that out and see what happens. My reflexes and strength were OK. I've noticed over the past 2 days some improvement and less need for the painkillers. so why have surgery in the midst of improvement? Thanks for your prayers and good vibes guys, I think it helped. I'll let you know how I respond to the therapy. Love, Rose in NJ who feels blessed to have so many good friends ;~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 13:27:20 -0600 From: "Susan" Subject: Re: Oh So Sad Songs NJC catman wrote: > Honey - Bobby Goldsboro I will never forget the Smothers Brothers doing a funny skit to this song back when it was released in the late 60's - right?. All I can remember is a kitchen table made out of the car that "Honey" supposedly perished in. Does anyone else recall the skit? As funny as it was - the song does make me cry too. It's just in the last couple of years it rings so freakin' true. But I can still laugh at the memory of that show as well. Peace Susan P.S For the age monitor, I was born 7/25/57 - you do the math! I still have trouble saying it out loud. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 13:02:25 -0600 From: "Susan" Subject: Re: bushy boy(NJC) One word for Bush - smarmy! It's like my favorite word lately and it fits that smug punk to a T. But how do I really feel about it? As Jesse Jackson said and I paraphrase: "Three reasons not to vote for Bush #1 The Supreme Court #2 The Supreme Court and #3 The Supreme Court!" Dave wrote: > Not since Ronald Reagan's senile rein has the image of the US been so > compromised with the prospect of a GW Bush victory. > There they go again... oops not meaning to quote the old man. There was a prime example of lying and fooling the American people. Ronald Regan IMO had Alzheimers - knew it, as did the Republican Party and still let him run again all to maintain the whitehouse. This was dangerous and obvious to me by his confusion in several debates and speeches. The Republicans had no charismatic leader to run the show and still do not. Can anyone guess how I voted or shut my big opinionated mouth for me!? Truly Peace Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:14:44 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: [none] Happy Birthday, Joan. CC _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 00:46:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - November 7 1943: Joni is born in Fort MacLeod, Canada 1982: The New York Times publishes a review of Wild Things Run Fast, calling it "the most exhilaratingly high spirited album Miss Mitchell has ever made. For in addition to the edgy, syncopated folk-jazz singing that became her vocal trademark in the mid-70's, the album features several vibrant rock-and-roll performances that communicate a rare joy in being alive." Read the full article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/821107nyt.cfm 1994: Today's issue of Newsday gets in the Turbulent Indigo promotion act and publishes a talk with Joni. Here's Joni take on Los Angeles: "Driving in traffic is difficult, extreme. Your fellow civilians are hostile. The shopping center is full of Russians who, like, try to beat you if you don't watch your bill; they're all like black-market immigrants or something. The restaurants that I eat in are close enough to Brentwood, but there's an influx of, like, you know, sickly tourists wanting to know where the woman shops and how to copy her. You're glad to get through the day without a fire or a mudslide or a drive-by shooting. You jump in traffic when a car backfires. Lovely place to live. Full of inspiration." Read the rest at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/941107n.cfm 1995: Joni plays a surprise show at Greenwich's Village Fez Club in New York, in front of 200 fans, including Chrissie Hynde, Carly Simon, Natalie Merchant and Marc Cohn. The Addicted to Noise website reported: "Carly Simon, glaring at the rather tipsy Hynde, finally got fed up and suggested that Hynde sit down, and if you'll excuse the expression, "shut up." That's all it took. According to eye witnesses, Hynde leaped up, grabbed Simon around the neck, and shoved her to the ground, where she began to pummel her--not once but twice." For more info on the rather unique evening: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/951109atn.cfm 1996: Joni appearance on the CBS This Morning Show is taped today and broadcast the next day. 1998: Joni performs in Atlanta. Setlist, Jimdler reviews, and birthday cake here: http://www.jmdl.com/performances/docs/981107.cfm 1998: The College Park performance is reviewed by the Washington Post, saying "Superbly backed by a quartet including trumpeter Chris Botti and pedal steel guitarist Greg Leisz, Mitchell cast her songs in shimmering arrangements built around her characteristic open tunings in different keys. " Read it here: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981107wp.cfm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:43:36 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: today's birthdays - vljc welsh soprano dame gwyneth jones turns 64 today. when she turned 60, she sang salome in buenos aires. i gave her a big chunk of amber [i can't remember why --maybe it was her birthstone or maybe because ambar is supposed to protect against envy and throat ailments]. the stone was in a very nice box, wrapped up in fancy paper, ribbon and all. dame gwyneth, who was wearing an emerald necklace that had belonged to la malibran, a 19th century opera diva, looked at the thing and said, ''i hope you haven't brought me chocolates young man. - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Murphycopy@aol.com Enviado el: Martes, 07 de Noviembre de 2000 02:32 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: today's birthdays - vljc Who shares Joni's birthday? From http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20001106/us/history_153.html Today's Birthdays: Evangelist Billy Graham is 82. Opera singer Dame Joan Sutherland is 74. Singer Mary Travers is 63. Actor Barry Newman is 62. Singer Johnny Rivers is 58. Singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell is 57. Singer Nick Gilder is 49. Actor Christopher Knight (``The Brady Bunch'') is 43. Actor Christopher Daniel Barnes is 28. Actors Jeremy and Jason London are 28. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:01:16 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY JONI!! Happy Birthday to you Happy Birthday to you Happy Birthday dear Joni Happy Birthday to you and many many more... ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:53:07 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Great & Sad Songs Kate wrote: > I SO agree with you on Cole Porter and just THINKING >about that M McD singing that songs practically brings me >to tears. > Brenda said, "Cole Porter is one of the greatest writers. >Ever. and "I Can Let Go Now" - Michael McDonald - There's >so much sadness in his voice and in > his songs. Oh yes, Michael McDonald - I bought all his albums, Doobie or not, in the 70s and 80s. Ahhhh - his music also made me feel jubilant more often than not, too. I thought of another song that is probably obscure but always got me all weepy and sniffling - "Brighter Days" by Kenny Loggins. I used to play that one over and over and also played it on my guitar. I'd sit there singing and wallowing in it. I guess it was one of those "comfort in melancholy" songs for me. The lyrics are simple, but the music is beautiful, and the way Kenny sings it just devastates me. What a song. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:58:31 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: taxation without representation NJC > The first "Taxation Without Representation" license plates >were issued, accompanied by a marching band (no less), >last Saturday, at a rally featuring many DC elected officials, >including the world's best nonvoting member of Congress, >Eleanor Holmes Norton. Janet and Lori - This is so funny and has had me cracking up all morning. Way to go! Hope you all have a great time at the rally and wish I could be there. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:24:02 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Great & Sad Songs Oh, speaking of wallowing, you made me think of a song I used to love to wallow in both listening to and then learning to play over & over. "Rainbow Sleeves" (sung by Rickie Lee Jones though written by Tom Waits I think). Its a sort of hopeful meloncholy song. Paraphrased here from memory so forgive me if its not exact: "and the moon can not make love to you but I believe that your heart will give you wings I'm told to keep you from ever growing old and a heart that has been broken will be stronger when it mends don't let your blues keep you from singing cause darling you only have broken wings you just hang on to my rainbow, hang on to my rainbow you just hang on to my rainbow sleeves..." ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** - -----Original Message----- From: Kakki [mailto:KakkiB@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 12:53 PM To: Kate Bennett; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Great & Sad Songs Kate wrote: > I SO agree with you on Cole Porter and just THINKING >about that M McD singing that songs practically brings me >to tears. > Brenda said, "Cole Porter is one of the greatest writers. >Ever. and "I Can Let Go Now" - Michael McDonald - There's >so much sadness in his voice and in > his songs. Oh yes, Michael McDonald - I bought all his albums, Doobie or not, in the 70s and 80s. Ahhhh - his music also made me feel jubilant more often than not, too. I thought of another song that is probably obscure but always got me all weepy and sniffling - "Brighter Days" by Kenny Loggins. I used to play that one over and over and also played it on my guitar. I'd sit there singing and wallowing in it. I guess it was one of those "comfort in melancholy" songs for me. The lyrics are simple, but the music is beautiful, and the way Kenny sings it just devastates me. What a song. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:49:43 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Today in MY Joni history > Two years ago today was the first time I saw Joni in concert. It was in > Atlanta and was one of the highlights of my life. She was better than I > could have imagined, and it was even more special since it was her birthday. > > I also met my first JMDLer (Hi Pearl!!!). Since my group had to fly up from > Fort Myers, we were late in getting to Einstine's for the pre-concert get > together. I did get to meet Pearl, Marsha, and I think I briefly met Paul I. > while at the concert. I know Mr. Muller was there, since I saw restroom signs > that read : MEN WOMEN and one sign that had the word SLUTS on it :~) > What other JMDLer's were at that concert? I was there Jimmy. Though I didn't come from as far away as Ft.Meyers, it was also the first time I had ever seen Joni in concert. I arrived late(for whatever reason...I can't remember, probably trying to find a place to park) and missed the first couple of songs but as soon as I walked in and heard her singing, I felt incredibly calm. We had 5th row seats in the center of the floor. As we walked to our seats, some lady actually asked my friend Connie who I was. I suppose because I was carrying a bouqet of flowers and a couple of other gifts I looked like someone important. Anyway, the whole thing kind of seemed like a dream. The only other time I've felt the same way was when I was sitting a couple of feet in front of James Taylor as he sang "Sweet Baby James" at the Fox Theatre. About half of the way through the concert, I saw several people bring bouqets of flowers up to the stage, handing them to security, who in turn, placed them at the front of the stage. At some point, I got up and handed over a bouqet of roses, a big TY stuffed tiger with blue and green stripes(an adorable little thing), and a Winnie the Pooh birthday card. At the end of the night, she went to the front of the stage and picked up a few of the bouqets (there must have been at least a dozen), and my tiger and card. Just knowing that I connected with her on some personal level filled me with an incredible feeling, a surge of inspiration. At the time of her show, I was still wrapped up in recording and producing my cd and I think that night really made a big difference, and helped me get through the whole process which drove me crazy at times( I can picture you tearing your hair out in New Orleans Michael, slaving away in the studio, and I have been thinking of you...hang in there). I put Joni's name in the credits because of that evening. At the time, I was not aware of the JMDL but several months later I did join and nothing has been the same since. :>) But seriously, the course of my life has definately been affected ever since I attended that concert and where it will go from here I can't wait to see. A happy f*&@ing birthday to you Joni! Victor NP: Joni Mitchell Hejira ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:52:20 -0800 (PST) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Distort the Future President (NJC) This is a little late, but what the heck ... - ----- Frustrated because the candidates' views don't reflect your own? Want to mold them more to your liking? Check out this site where you can warp their faces - -- and have lots of laughs: http://www.colonize.com/warp/index.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:57:38 -0000 From: "joe farrell" Subject: joni's bday Just want to say Happy Birthday Joni and thank you for all the incredible music. Hope you have a wonderful day. Love, Joe. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:02:57 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Songs that invoke emotions (LJC) too many Joni songs to list but "Hejira" particularly invokes emotions Rush "2112" from 2112 Rush "Tears" from 2112 David Sylvian "Orpheus" from Secrets of the Beehive Grateful Dead "Box of Rain" Nick Drake "Fruit Tree" Nick Drake "Riverman" Stevie Wonder "You and I" Grateful Dead "Looks Like Rain" Victor ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #586 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?