From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #585 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, November 7 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 585 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Sign up for VideoTree #2 now: http://www.jmdl.com/trading ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: taxation without representation NJC [michael w yarbrough ] re: Both Sides of the Election, Now [Don Sloan ] Re: Oh So Sad Songs ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] RE: Oh So Sad Songs (NJC) ["Deb Messling" ] The Election (NJC) ["c Karma" ] Re: The Election (NJC) [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? [RoseMJoy@aol.com] random information about me [db.ireland@usa.net] TGIAO (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Harry Potter NJC ["Kay Ashley" ] Re: taxation without representation NJC ["Kakki" ] Ages Anyone? NJC ["Christopher J. Treacy" ] Digest comments NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Subject: The intellectuality of Joni's lyrics ["Kate Bennett" ] song ["Kate Bennett" ] Sally Taylor ["Kate Bennett" ] Emotional songs ["Brenda J. Walker" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:50:25 -0600 (CST) From: michael w yarbrough Subject: Re: taxation without representation NJC For the record, DC has 3 electoral votes, the equivalent of the smallest states (AK, the Dakotas, VT, MT, et al) - --Michael, predicting a squeaker Gore electoral college victory and perhaps a slight popular vote loss - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Sometimes I contemplate moving to a warmer place But then the lake and skyline give me a warm embrace." - --Common, "Reminding Me (Of Sef)" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:15:08 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: j. brooke - njc << what i'm saying is that i can't imagine a joni mitchell fan not liking either of these two cds. i love them both. >> I was listening to Plumb in my car CD-changer all last week, and was once again taken with what an exceptional record it is. Patrick, you need to get The Story's "Angel In The House" if you don't have it already...trust me. If you don't like it, mail me the receipt and I'll send you a check! Jonatha & Ani & Fiona are all potential worthy successors to Joni. Tori too, if she decides to come back to earth! :~) Bob NP: Rainy Night House, live PBS '69 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:51:31 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: 5 songs that invoke emotion (njc) To add to the list in progress: Aretha Franklin: I Never Loved A Man (The Way That I Love You) Joan Baez: You're Aging Well Carole King: Way Over Yonder Richard Thompson: Bees Wing Richard Thompson: Vincent Black Lightning Two more piano players that I love: Earl "Fatha" Hines and Erroll Garner Leslie M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:52:21 -0800 From: Don Sloan Subject: re: Both Sides of the Election, Now Great work, Bob! The only thing about the so-called campaign that has actually made me smile! Thanks, Don ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 06:55:54 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Oh So Sad Songs I apologize for using so much bandwidth about sad songs but it's territory that I know pretty well. :) "Rosalinda's Eyes" by Billy Joel. Here's why: 'I would do anything to take away her tears because they're Rosalinda's eyes.' Expose's song "I'll Never Get Over You Getting Over Me"...... Whoa. Lock up the kitchen knives, the Jack Daniels, and the hand guns before you play this one! Sure it's cheese but man, do they wring it out. "Walkin' In Memphis" by Marc Cohen. This is a cry-for-joy song. It's about redemption in fellowship and music. Here's a song about a sad guy with a Jewish name traveling to Memphis, alone in his thoughts. It opens with the sound of rain as he lands - recreated on a nice big piano. He says, 'Yeah, I got a first class ticket but I'm as blue as a boy can be.' He's lookin for kinship among the ghosts of the music legends in Memphis, right? Finally he's invited among the living to a pot luck dinner at a black church: 'Muriel plays piano every Friday after (service?) And they asked me if I would Do a little number and i SANG WITH ALL MY MIGHT. She said, "Tell me are you a Christian, child?" I said, "Ma'm, _I_ _AM_ _tonight_." ' Can I get an amen? I said, "Can I get an AMEN? AMEN!" Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:19:05 -0500 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: RE: Oh So Sad Songs (NJC) > > She said, "Tell me are you a Christian, child?" > I said, "Ma'm, _I_ _AM_ _tonight_." ' > > > Can I get an amen? I said, "Can I get an AMEN? AMEN!" AMEN! I just love that line, and he delivers it so well. But for sheer unabashed blubbering, may I recommend Marc Cohn's version of "Rock of Ages" from the Hanukkah CD "Festival of Light." It's a folk-rock treatment of one of the few well-known Hanukkah songs. When he gets to the line "I hope we'll see all men free and tyrants disappearing," I'm always crying! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 03:23:36 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: The Election (NJC) On this eve of an important day for the U.S., I thought it was worth noting that just about everything that can be said by and for our candidates has. The Presidential candidates and their supporters have worked the last year to convince you and every other U.S. citizen registered to vote that they are the Only Person In The Country who can do The Most Important Job In The World. If you were planning to stay home tomorrow, please don't. Please vote. Vote your heart, vote your convictions, vote your future, vote your power. Please consider your choice and use it. It's your right, your honor and your privilege. Vote as if yours were the only one. It's certainly the only one that matters. CC _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:57:21 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Election (NJC) In a message dated 11/6/00 10:41:09 PM, ckarma@hotmail.com writes: << Please consider your choice and use it. It's your right, your honor and your privilege. Vote as if yours were the only one. It's certainly the only one that matters. >> Very nicely put. Thank you. But I'm still planning on voting early and often, especially in Florida and key Midwestern states. :-) I wish I felt secure enough about the outcome of this election to just write-in you-know-who as a birthday gag, but not this time. --Bob NP: The Fiddle and the Drum ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 23:15:31 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC - Ages, anyone? I'm 47 years gettin old. I saw my neurosurgeon tonight. Soon as he saw me, which he hasn't in three years, said Mrs. Joy, you never change, you always look the same. Really, I asked? What a charmer he is :~) A real ladies man. rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: 6 Nov 00 21:22:42 MST From: db.ireland@usa.net Subject: random information about me hey group.. I was also wondering what the age group here was? I'm 20..(soon to be legal enough to toss a few back)...and I discovered Joni my first year of college....I know I'm a newcomer. My parents tell me I was born in the wrong era because of the type of music I listen to and the person I have become. It's kind of true actually..I'm a bit of a hippie. But even though I was not around when the joni craze began her music touches me like no other. I love singing along...working on some projects with her melodic voice humming in the background....it's the sweetest voice I have ever heard. Danielle from NY ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 22:44:34 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: TGIAO (NJC) Well it's almost over now. They just need to count up the ballots to see who the next poor bastard is, that we will spend the next four years (at least) trying to rip him apart. Frankly all this political bull shit (especially in this forum) is wearing me down. It makes me physically ill to think of all the money these assholes wasted on THIS election (especially with THESE choices). When I think of the all this money that was wasted and think about the impact such a huge volume of green back dollars could do to actually make a positive change in so many sick, hungry, poor lives, it makes me want to puke. Yes thank God it's almost over. Peace Michael NP-The Boxer-Simon and Garfunkel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 23:43:44 -0500 From: "Kay Ashley" Subject: Harry Potter NJC Colin, keep on reading! I LOVE these books! I was actually one of the kooks who went and bought the 4th book at midnight the day of the release. They just keep getting better. The 4th is the best yet. These books remind me of Tolkien in a way -- not literally in style or content, but in that they create a truly different world of which you want to be a part, and about which you want to keep learning. I love the sophisticated characterizations of the children. It's a real "kid power" series of books, which I think is just so great in this day and age. And even if one thinks the books are trendy, or whatever -- hey, anything that gets kids excited about reading is just fine by me. Cheers, Kay np: Passion - Peter Gabriel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:43:17 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: taxation without representation NJC Barbara wrote: > this is a situation that we DCers would like to change, but >republicans want nothing to do with allowing us legal >representation (being a democratic-leaning city, it would >mean more competition for them). I'm not familiar with this at all but am interested in learning more details about it. (Getting interested in government and politics again after about a 20 year period of personal apathy and revulsion). Why did the so-called Founding Fathers set it up this way in the beginning? What options or recourse do the DC'ers have to champion their position? Other than competition, what are the Republicans' official policy stance on this issue? Kakki, far from the east coast and DC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:48:57 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: TGIAO (NJC) Paz wrote: > Well it's almost over now. They just need to count up the >ballots to see who the next poor bastard is, that we will >spend the next four years (at least) trying to rip him apart. Yeah. >Frankly all this political bull shit (especially in > this forum) is wearing me down. It makes me physically ill >to think of all the money these assholes wasted on THIS >election (especially with THESE choices). When I think of >the all this money that was wasted and think about the >impact such a huge volume of green back dollars could do >to actually make a positive change in so many sick, hungry, >poor lives, it makes me want to puke. Yes thank God it's >almost over. I feel your pain, Michael. At this point I'm trying to gleam what humor I can out of it all - first time I really LOL at Saturday Night Live in a long time was last weekend. What can we do? To take it all to heart would spin our heads and give us an ulcer. I think our hope lies in local politics - doing all we can in our own backyards. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:51:50 -0500 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: Ages Anyone? NJC I'm almost 31. When I turned 30, I felt like I HAD to get out of the food and beverage industry. 2 months later, I decided to quit drinking and smoking dope. In deciding not to make any other 'massive' changes for a while, I stayed in the industry, but went corporate with a hotel job. Now I know for certain, especially without the 'buffers' that I used to employ, that I must get into another line of work. Live and learn! At least I have my music collecting to keep me busy. Cheers! -Chris. NP:Dusty Springfield-Dusty In Memphis ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:52:05 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Digest comments NJC Thanks Diane, that was a very nice post about your Idaho days.. >>Kate, A little late in catching up on my email, but I have to tell you how much I enjoyed "Home." It reminded me of when I lived in Idaho (yep, moved there in '74). We would hike into the primitive areas, to the top of those hills, and positively feast on the sights! My God! The meteor showers were dazzling in the night sky! By day we'd be humbled by the glory of sky-hugging mountains, trout-filled streams, and the scents of the season. Never did I feel closer to God. Thanks for bringing those moments back to me!<< Catman, that is really well stated, I agree 100%! >>There is no separation. How can there be? God dwells withing each of us-thus no seperation. I believe that is what jesus tried to teach. But it got bastardised and the Church and other religious leaders fooled us into thinking we needed an intermediary. Nothing stands between us and God. only ourselves and dogma and creed.<< Kakki, I think there is still a curfew for kids under 16. >>I wonder if the law is still on the books? It might be but is usually not enforced unless kids are gathering in a pack and looking like they are up to no good. OOO, Debra, that song you mentioned is one of my favorites!!!!! >>Debra Shea, trying to have a que sera sera attitude, but it's not happening NP: RT, How will I ever be simple again<< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:02:09 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: The intellectuality of Joni's lyrics Marian, I understand what you are saying, she is quite cerebral. Two songs that hit me very emotionally are Amelia (when I play it) & Circle Game (however, more so as my son was growing up than before I was a parent or even now, that he is sorta grown up) ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 01:29:13 -0500 From: "Nikki Johnson" Subject: Ages...(NJC) I am 21 and have had the pleasure of meeting a lot of listers! And what a great group! I am usually the baby of the group but everyone was really cool to me...I guess like you said about your parents...mine always say the same thing...I was born too late...lol. I think it's great when people of all ages, backgrounds and whatever else come together and share with each other:-) Nice to hear from you Danielle! Welcome! Nikki "Dream on but don't imagine they'll all come true...Vienna waits for you" ~ Billy Joel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > db.ireland@usa.net > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:23 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: random information about me > > > hey group.. > > I was also wondering what the age group here was? I'm 20..(soon > to be legal > enough to toss a few back)...and I discovered Joni my first year of > college....I know I'm a newcomer. My parents tell me I was born > in the wrong > era because of the type of music I listen to and the person I > have become. > It's kind of true actually..I'm a bit of a hippie. But even > though I was not > around when the joni craze began her music touches me like no > other. I love > singing along...working on some projects with her melodic voice > humming in the > background....it's the sweetest voice I have ever heard. > > Danielle from NY > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:22:19 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: song That is one of my favorite songs! Rickie Lee Jones sings it really well too. Speaking of her, one of my fav bassists is Nathan East who played with her (and many others) years ago. >>>"Walk Away Renee" by the Left Banke<<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:32:24 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Sally Taylor Paz, you mentioned Sally Taylor. I saw her about 2 years ago & was really disappointed. Her music was very bland & boring to me although I felt she had inherited her Dad's wonderful sense of humor. And her Mom's good looks. (however, I am not a fan of Carly's songwriting or lead vocals, though I do love her harmonies with James). I heard that Sally has another cd out so maybe she has improved her skills. I haven't heard her cds, only in concert. Just for comparison, around the same time I went to hear Jonatha Brooke play at the same venue (hadn't heard her music prior to then) & I LOVED her. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:51:53 -0800 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Emotional songs It was really easy to rattle off lists of favorites. This one though is much harder. I admire the way so many on this list have opened and allowed the rest of us to see what moves them. I'm on a couple of "music industry" lists and NONE of them talk about music this much and what it really means to them - they're all stuck on redefining copyright and why major labels suck. (to quote Joni - "Boring!") At the end of the day, we all listen because music makes us feel, think or do SOMETHING. To that end, "Send In The Clowns" - Sarah Vaughan - The one and only time I saw her was at Boston's Symphony Hall. I always disliked this song (as songs go) but there was one particular note that she hit that caused me to cry spontaneously. I had never felt anything like that before and haven't felt anything like that since. (To me, smoking didn't really seem to effect her voice; her range seemed to continue to expand as the years went on. However, smoking did take her life.) "Two Grey Rooms" - Joni - Reminds me of a friend who was so devastated by a lack of love that he tried to destroy himself with drugs. He's still fighting for his life. "Ava Maria" - Dianne Reeves - Another live experience in Boston (I think the club was called Centerstage - near Central Square.) She is truly a great singer. "Every Time We Say Goodbye" - John Coltrane, My Favorite Things - IMO Cole Porter is one of the greatest writers. Ever. "I Can Let Go Now" - Michael McDonald - There's so much sadness in his voice and in his songs. "Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini" - Rachmaninov Other Joni songs - River, Blue, Jericho, Woman of Heart and Mind. Other non-Joni songs - Almost anything thing performed by Sarah from the Duke Ellington songbook. Brenda n.p. MSNBC ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #585 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?