From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #578 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 3 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 578 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Sign up for VideoTree #2 now: http://www.jmdl.com/trading ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NJC - Cooder, King & Clapton ["Greer, Ron" ] Re: michael ruff njc ["Kakki" ] Re: Spoiler:politics(NJC) [Deb Messling ] Re: guitarists, pianists & bears (oh my!) NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] 5 greatest tuba players NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] RE: guitarists, pianists & bears (oh my!) NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Songs played if elected (NJC) ["Happy The Man" ] Big Sur ["Mike Hicks" ] Re: Songs played if elected [Don Rowe ] Pianists (NJC) ["c Karma" ] Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time [Ken ] Re: Don Freed article [Ken ] Re: Spoiler:politics(NJC) ["Lori R. Fye" ] Today in Joni History - November 3 [Today in Joni History ] Re: Rock Stars and their backstage requests (SJC) ["Mike Hicks" ] Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time [Susan McNamara ] Re: Rock Stars and their backstage requests (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long ["Christopher J. Treacy" ] fave keyboardist njc [evian ] Cher "Sisters of Mercy"/Joni "Magdalene Laundries" ["c Karma" ] Re: 5 dinner guests (NJC) [Marian ] Re: Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long --- Elton John's [Mark Domyancich <] a few things NJC [Marian ] Re: Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long --- Elton John's ["Brenda J. Walker] request (NJC) [Marian ] re: fav. guitarists (NJC) [Marian ] Re: Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long --- Elton John's [Siresorrow@aol.co] Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time [Ken ] Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time [Ken ] Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time [Susan McNamara ] Fwd: [Mike's Message] That's THREE Arrests for Bush -- How Many More? (NJC) [jan gyn ] Re: Fwd: [NJC] That's THREE Arrests for Bush -- How Many More? (NJC) [Do] Re: Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long --- Elton John's ["Kakki" ] Re: Rock Stars and Requests(njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Fwd: [NJC] That's THREE Arrests for Bush -- How Many More? (NJC) [Do] Re: Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long --- Elton John's ["Stephen Epstein"] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:27:57 +0200 From: "Greer, Ron" Subject: NJC - Cooder, King & Clapton hi everone >blair wrote >3. Ry Cooder-- I have just got into him.. i love his sound.. it is >so earthy, so rich and full of life. i picked up a copy of the "crossroads" soundtrack recently, put it on & almost wet my pants when i heard the opening notes. only 1 word - awesome - gotta be one of the best soundtrack i have ever heard. an added bonus is sonny terry on harmonica. i went straight out & got another 2 albums of his "slide area" & "why dont you try me tonight?" - will definitely be getting more very soon >Jim wrote >I've seen the name Carole King thrown out as a great pianists here. >Ummm........ i dont know much about piano, but carole king always sounded to me like a high school music teacher. please feel free to educate me if im wrong. having said that, i do own & love "tapestry". i also caught a concert of her on tv not to long ago & really loved it. >bob wrote >But as far as being a saint, I dunno...Mother Teresa, now THERE's a saint. I >wouldn't lump Eric in that group, and I still think he's overrated in the >guitar dept. seems to be a bit of controversy about clapton. i dont know - hes a great guitarist, i really wouldnt know or care if hes a saint, but i would suspect, that just like the rest of us hes pretty much a mixture of both. i just never heard anything i liked by him. it all just sounds so bland & boring to me. its all about personal taste i guess. this list really seems to be a good place to get educated ........... ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:31:37 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: michael ruff njc > wow kakki!!!!! one more reason to visit you soooooooooooooooooon!!!! > wallyK Yes Wally, and it would be great to have one more buddy to writhe and gasp ecstatic with at his shows! His shows are always soaring beyond belief (think Elton's virtuosity meets Stevie Wonder) and the club is the size of my living room. He also has a fantastic personality and sometimes tells little "days with Rickie Lee" stories. He also used to work with Bonnie Raitt and wrote the song "Cry On My Shoulder" for her "Nick of Time" album. (He has joked that the royalties from that one afforded his semi-retirement in Maui). His original songs are gorgeous beyond belief. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 06:28:34 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Spoiler:politics(NJC) Gore supporters, it is your responsibility to lobby as many people as possible before election day. Bush supporters, I may disagree with your choice, but I still urge you to remember to get out to vote on Wednesday, November 8th. Deb Messling messling@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~messling/ ~I like cats. They give the home a heartbeat. / Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 07:27:30 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: guitarists, pianists & bears (oh my!) NJC << I won't tell you who my favorite bears are. > > > > Mark in Seattle > > > Favorite bears: > > > 1.Dancing Bear (from Captain Kangaroo) > 2.Paddington Bear > 3. The Grateful Dead bears > 4. Garcia > 5. Winnie the Pooh > > Victor > > >> For some reason, I don't think Mark was talking about the same kind of bears that some of you have listed :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 07:37:15 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: 5 greatest tuba players NJC this is hard for me to just keep it to five, but I'll try Ingvar Hallerstehl Dave Ihlenfeld Melvin Poore tie between Joseph D. Terwilliger and R. Wiley Evans Happy Friday yall! Can't wait til we get to the top 5 Dactilofono players :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:28:42 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: guitarists, pianists & bears (oh my!) NJC my favorite bears are the guys at www.maturemale.com no doubt about it. and bob murphy is a very nice cub too. wallyk, woof!!! - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de FMYFL@aol.com Enviado el: Viernes, 03 de Noviembre de 2000 09:28 a.m. Para: bedublyu@earthlink.net; waytoblu@mindspring.com; joni@smoe.org; mark.travis@gte.net Asunto: Re: guitarists, pianists & bears (oh my!) NJC << I won't tell you who my favorite bears are. > > > > Mark in Seattle > > > Favorite bears: > > > 1.Dancing Bear (from Captain Kangaroo) > 2.Paddington Bear > 3. The Grateful Dead bears > 4. Garcia > 5. Winnie the Pooh > > Victor > > >> For some reason, I don't think Mark was talking about the same kind of bears that some of you have listed :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:43:49 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Rock Stars and their backstage requests (SJC) I was reading our local rag this morning which had an article of Peter Frampton's wednesday night performance here in town (yes we get all the big names in Ft. Myers LOL) It mentioned his dressing room requests were several bottles of very fine wines and a large supply of sliced gourmet cheeses from Vermont, which the venue was able to obtain at at the last minute. I'm sure this has been discussed before on the JMDL, but does anyone happen to know what Joni's backstage requests are? OR Has anyone heard of any *strange* demands by any other performers? Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 07:51:44 -0800 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: 5 Songs that invoke emotions (LJC) When it comes to pianist, guitarist, bassists, songwriters, etc., there part in a song can make or break but it is usually the playing that might invoke some passion to makes the piece make be break down as a blubbering idiot. There are songs out there that just rock my world enough to make me question everything. Why the injustice? Have I been romantic enough? Thanks for that shallow piece of @$%#? etc. So here is my list and you know it will change everyday because the pattern nevers stays the same, if it does then I have begun to die and I have no right to share anything with you. 1. A case of you - Joni 2. Hurricane - Dylan 3. We Are Not As Strong As We Think We are - Mullins 4. Windmills - Toad the West Sprocket (you have to be there) 5. I will never be the same - Paul Oakley The guitar release in Yes - Turn of the century makes me want to just run naked though my house. Okay that was a pretty ugly visual picture. Peace, Craig NP: Blue Moon - Billie Holiday ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:49:16 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: RE: bassists Paul McCartney: ref. RAIN Jaco Pastorius: ref. HEJIRA Charles Mingus: ref. Better Git It In Your Soul Chris Squire: ref. The Fish Stanley Clarke: ref. Return to Forever ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:11:03 -0800 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Songs played if elected (NJC) Bush - Wasted Days and Wasted Nights Buchanan - Eve of Destruction Gore - Who Let the Dogs Out, Or Liar Nader - Hail to the Chief Sorry, I kind of like a navy destroyer ramming a Japanese fishing boat that is doing some whaling. And wouldn't it be nice to look out over the ocean and not see a pumper in your view. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:47:29 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Big Sur Did anyone see the Big Sur documentary last night? What struck me was how pure and laid back everything was. And, all the artists sitting in the background watching the others play. Could we have that today? Doubt it. Too many money hungry mongers out there, record companies, corporate sponsors and the whole deal. How times have changed. It was good to see how it used to be and sad it was to think something like that could never happen again. I will record it next time it airs. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 07:42:35 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Songs played if elected Oh this is too much to resist! Here's my picks: Bush -- Red Skies At Night Gore -- Fiction Buchanan -- Tax Free Nader -- Once In A Lifetime Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 15:48:38 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: Pianists (NJC) I hope I'm not breaking any rules by claiming my hands down favorite: Artur Rubinstein. Followed in no particular order by: Oscar Peterson Vladimir Horowitz Jerry Lee Lewis Thelonius Monk Randy Newman Art Tatum CC "I'm gonna rent me a grand piano and put some flowers 'round my room." - --JM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 10:53:53 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time This is a thread I really dislike to see since it so often just degenerates in to a flame war. Much prefer to see "favourite" guitarists or whatever since there can be no argument at all what your own favourite guitarist is. In this case someone even as talent limited as John Lennon can make someone's favourite list. Susan McNamara wrote: > I knew I would find it eventually: Guitar.com has a top 100 list for > your perusal: > > http://www.guitar.com/g2kfeatures/viewfeature.asp?featureID=12 > > that should open up about four weeks of arguments!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 10:59:23 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: Don Freed article I didn't get that feeling at all. I felt he was referring to himself sitting around the pool doing nothing while Joni is busy painting or running around doing stuff of her own. Deb Messling wrote: > > Is it just me, or did anyone else detect a sort of bitchy undertone to the > Don Freed article posted earlier today? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:22:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Re: Spoiler:politics(NJC) Relayer asks: > How could we come to this?Bush is such an > ignorant,foolish,idiot.How could he actually become > president? In a word: APATHY. So many people don't give enough of a damn to even bother to register, let alone go to the polls or vote absentee. They deserve whatever they get, which does not include the right to bitch. Lori, equally disgusted and looking forward to voting for Gore, in DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 00:09:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - November 3 1998: Joni performs in Rochester. Setlist here: http://www.jmdl.com/performances/docs/981103.cfm 1998: Four reviews of the MSG concert appear today. The Daily News says "Really, the woman should get out more often." http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981103nydn.cfm Newsday wrote "Both artists relished the spotlight. The radiant Mitchell, 54, was far more animated and polished than during her performance in August at the site of the original Woodstock music fest. She joked frequently with the crowd and even attempted a nasal Dylan imitation." http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981103nyn.cfm The Post said "She has an excellent band, which would have been riveting in a snug club. But in the Garden, there was many a stifled yawn as J.M. plowed through her material." http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981103nyp.cfm Finally, the Times wrote "Most of the performance lit up familiar strengths, but what audiences have learned recently is how good a jazz singer Ms. Mitchell can be." http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981103nyt.cfm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:21:35 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Re: Rock Stars and their backstage requests (SJC) > From: FMYFL@aol.com > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:43:49 EST > Subject: Rock Stars and their backstage requests (SJC) > To: joni@smoe.org > Reply-to: FMYFL@aol.com > I was reading our local rag this morning which had an article of Peter > Frampton's wednesday night performance here in town (yes we get all the big > names in Ft. Myers LOL) > > It mentioned his dressing room requests were several bottles of very fine > wines and a large supply of sliced gourmet cheeses from Vermont, which the > venue was able to obtain at at the last minute. > > I'm sure this has been discussed before on the JMDL, but does anyone happen > to know what Joni's backstage requests are? OR Has anyone heard of any > *strange* demands by any other performers? > > Jimmy I have heard that Fleetwood Mac used to be pretty demanding, but I don't know to what extent. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:12:08 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Favorite Bassists 1. John Kahn, Brad Houser, Jaco Pastorius - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:22:55 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time In a message dated 11/3/00 11:02:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, slarty@sympatico.ca writes: << Much prefer to see "favourite" guitarists or whatever since there can be no argument at all what your own favourite guitarist is. In this case someone even as talent limited as John Lennon can make someone's favourite list. >> Limited as John's talent might have been on guitar, he was the first to use recorded feedback from an electric guitar on a song, before Jimi, before Jerry, before any of them. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:32:32 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time As far as I'm concerned, talent is also gauged by the amount of emotion, not only technical ability or style. There are a lot of people who can get much emotion out of a G Em D song (ref. the recent Neil Young thread). take care, sue At 12:22 PM -0500 11/3/00, IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 11/3/00 11:02:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, >slarty@sympatico.ca writes: > ><< Much prefer to see "favourite" guitarists or whatever since there can be > no argument at all what your own favourite guitarist is. In this case > someone even as talent limited as John Lennon can make someone's > favourite list. > >> >Limited as John's talent might have been on guitar, he was the first to use >recorded feedback from an electric guitar on a song, before Jimi, before >Jerry, before any of them. > >Paul I ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 12:40:29 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Rock Stars and their backstage requests (NJC) <> Van Halen used to demand that the BROWN M&M's be removed, and they would go ballistic if they weren't. I think this was just a David Lee Roth thing. Bob NP: Traffic, "Smiling Phases" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:40:38 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time In a message dated 11/3/00 12:33:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, sem8@cornell.edu writes: << As far as I'm concerned, talent is also gauged by the amount of emotion, not only technical ability or style. There are a lot of people who can get much emotion out of a G Em D song (ref. the recent Neil Young thread). take care, sue >> Agreed. A guitarist like Al DiMeola can play a lot of notes, but zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz he is BORING. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:36:13 -0500 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long I am all too familiar with the nit-picky requests (actually, more like demands) that performers make in their contracts. The portion of the contract in question is called a 'rider' and it can make or break the relationship between the artist & their management with the promoter(s) at hand. I used to work for a booking and promotion agency in '94 & '95. Most memorable was the Indigo Girls contract rider, which went on for (4) pages, specifying meals, elaborate 'snacking foods' to be distributed at odd times during the day, and several rounds of beer and expensive waters (!). We often forget that the rider also includes the needs of the bands crew, so it can become quite lengthy and costly; (no wonder the Indigo's are swollen these days!). Most notable from their rider was a request for a certain sort of blue corn chip which, if could not be attained at first try, the girls humbly provided an 800 # for the distributor to dtermine the nearest vendor. These people don't leave much room for the word 'no'. Not specific to the rider persay, but another interesting story - during the second leg of Melissa's "Yes I Am" tour, she had hired a bunch of 'sharks' to represent her in her new found glory. We had worked with her usual people before, but this was a new bunch, and they didn't want to play fair. The negotiation between promoter, venue, and artist AFTER the show is called 'settlement' and it can get ugly. Melissa's 'new' representation wanted us to provide receipts for every single thread of $ spent, right down to the cleaning bill for the towels used by the band and crew. We received a fruit basket and an apology from Melissa herself about 3 weeks afterward. As far as Joni is concerned, the only thing I can relate is this; During the BSN tour, Joni was booked to stay at The Seaport Hotel (my place of employment, but not at the time) in Boston, a non-smoking establishment with no openable windows. To my knowledge, Joni's contract states that wherever she stays MUST allow smoking, and if it does not, a window should be available (inferring that she will smoke against house policy). Though I wasn't there personally (I only started at this job in july...), Ms. Mitchell was apparently in a huff from the get go because of the lack of an openable window, but then came the problem with the chicken. Joni wants a baked chicken for her din-din, not fried, not grilled, but baked. When a grilled chicken was delivered to her room, that was the last straw. By the time one of my room service cohorts got back up to the 18th floor with a baked chicken, Joni was already set-a-packing, heading full speed to The Four Seasons. Can ya' blame 'er? The Seaport Hotel is located just a few minutes walk from the Fleet Boston Pavillion (former "Harborlights"), and must have seemed like a good idea to whomever booked the room. I now have to endure hearing about what a bitch Joni was every time she comes up at work.... One last note; I find this hard to believe, because by all accounts I've always heard she's personable and friendly, but apparently Tori Amos has a codicil in her rider that states venue employees are not to make eye contact with her. STRANGE! -Chris NP:Joe Jackson-Night and Day2(also strange...) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 12:50:40 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite pianists/keyboardists SJC Neil Larsen put out two mighty fine records back in the 80's that I enjoyed immensely, "Jungle Fever" and "High Gear". RLJ did some vocal work on the latter, very similar ethereal thing like what Joni did on the Brian Blade record this year. I never knew what the connection was between Neil & RLJ, so that makes sense now! Bob NP: Traffic, "No Face, No Name, No Number" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 11:58:02 -0600 From: evian Subject: fave tambourine player njc Fave tambourine player: Tracy Partridge ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 11:58:34 -0600 From: evian Subject: fave keyboardist njc Fave Keyboardist: Nik Rhodes ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 18:29:38 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: Cher "Sisters of Mercy"/Joni "Magdalene Laundries" So Cher is ruffling habits around the world with her indictment of the order with whom she was interred as a child. I don't think it's news to anyone here that Joni tackled this subject already with "The Magdalene Laundries." For me, what's probably most interesting about Cher's explosive release is my understanding (from news reports) that the song is only available through her website! Now that's something special. What better way for an artist to maintain control over marketing than by limiting the outlet, avoiding creative pressure from the distribution and retail levels. Ani DeFranco has had remarkable success in this regard. Cher's attempt at this now raises the stakes considerably. I can't think of another popular artist of her magnitude to attempt this, can anyone else? That is other than Bowie, who owns his own catalog and chooses to maintain business control over his own publishing and masters. I'd guess that Cher has an internet identity with a legion of fans who would appreciate the opportunity to have first crack at new work. Hmmm. Does this sound familiar? If I'm in error about "Sisters Of Mercy" only being available from Cher's website, I apologize but it's really not a bad idea, is it? CC "Well the technical manual's busy." -- JM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 18:10:02 +0100 From: Marian Subject: Re: fav. pianists (NJC) Glenn Gould Bruce Hornsby Alicia DeLaroccha Keith Jarrett Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 18:12:51 +0100 From: Marian Subject: Re: 5 dinner guests (NJC) Joni Bruce Hornsby Marge Piercy (USA poet & novelist) Judith Wright (Australian poet) Nelson Mandela Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:05:13 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long --- Elton John's I had a helluva time trying to find this again, but a few years ago Elton John played this dive of an arena here in Moline, IL. Someone got a hold of this: Eltons John's Concert Request Lists This is a list of requests that Elton John made for his visit to the Mark.... ELTON JOHN'S CATERING LIST: NO ALCOHOL, WHITE SUGAR, OR WHITE FLOUR. PLEASE REMOVE ALL ASHTRAYS. small vegetable platter small fruit platter (whole fruit) small sandwich platter - tuna, Turkey, Vegetarian sandwiches Marmite (Tudor House, Santa Monica) HP Sauce (Tudor House, Santa Monica) Coleman's Hot English Mustard Rice Cakes Ryvita or Wasa Whole Wheat Crisp Bread Natural "crunchy" peanut butter (whole foods market) 3 Jars Assorted Sorrel Ridge Spreadable Fruit (strawberry, Orange Marmalade, Apricot) Salt and Pepper Jar of Nutrasweet Teabags, various including English Breakfast Tea Hot Water Lemon Wedges Iron Tree Bark Honey (Whole foods market) Coffee, regular and decaf Skim and Low-fat milk Orange Juice, Grapefruit Juice (not fresh squeezed) 12 cans of Diet Coke 12 cans of Diet Caffeine-Free Coke 6 cans Diet 7-up Evian - 6 large bottles, 4 bottles iced, 2 bottles at room temperature Pellegrino - 4 large bottles Kaliber Non-Alcoholic Beer Low-Fat cookies (no white sugar) Ice Bucket with fresh clean ice 1 box Kleenex - -- all drinks should be iced down in a cooler except for 2 large bottles ice water ELTON JOHN'S DRESSING ROOM FACILITY REQUIREMENT LIST: 1 large (8 foot) couch/sofa 2 easy chairs (armchairs) 2 chairs 1 full-length mirror 2 table lamps 2 floor standing lamps 1 coffee table 2 large banquet tables (covered in white linen table cloth) 4 large green plants 1 large bouquet red roses (no white flowers) 1 clothes rack 1 lined trash can 1 local hair dryer adjustable speed - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 18:23:27 +0100 From: Marian Subject: a few things NJC John is a lot better! I've been in serious lurk mode for awhile, though. I've been scanning the digests. I loved the article about Don Freed, but I agree with the person who said yesterday that it sounded a bit mean in places. Jason, you lucky guy! So many Joni songbooks! BarBearUh, I cried for the loss of your beautiful, ancient, neighborhood tree. When I lived in the city, I cried when they cut down a little tree across from my house to build a high rise. I so dislike the killing of trees that I get depressed in December when I see cut trees being sold in Christmas tree lots and even more depressed to see the sad, discarded trees after the new year. I have never and will never buy a cut Christmas tree. I'm expecting a Joni friend at the end of November and am really looking forward to the visit. Not much else is new. Something Joni happened recently, but I can't remember now what it was. Getting old, I guess. Regards to all. Marian Vienna NP: Black Coffee - All Saints ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 12:15:23 -0800 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Re: Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long --- Elton John's Then he makes the bus driver stop for fish & chips at the closest H. Salt! ; ) Just kidding...but alot of artists I've worked with over the years had managers who would demand alot of "healthy" food restrictions and then the artists would stop for a bucket of chicken with the label rep! Brenda Mark Domyancich wrote: > VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading > Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > > I had a helluva time trying to find this again, but a few years ago > Elton John played this dive of an arena here in Moline, IL. Someone > got a hold of this: > > Eltons John's Concert Request Lists > > This is a list of requests that Elton John made for his visit to the Mark.... > > ELTON JOHN'S CATERING LIST: > > NO ALCOHOL, WHITE SUGAR, OR WHITE FLOUR. > > PLEASE REMOVE ALL ASHTRAYS. > > small vegetable platter > > small fruit platter (whole fruit) > > small sandwich platter - tuna, Turkey, Vegetarian sandwiches > > Marmite (Tudor House, Santa Monica) > > HP Sauce (Tudor House, Santa Monica) > > Coleman's Hot English Mustard > > Rice Cakes > > Ryvita or Wasa Whole Wheat Crisp Bread > > Natural "crunchy" peanut butter (whole foods market) > > 3 Jars Assorted Sorrel Ridge Spreadable Fruit (strawberry, Orange > Marmalade, Apricot) > > Salt and Pepper > > Jar of Nutrasweet > > Teabags, various including English Breakfast Tea > > Hot Water > > Lemon Wedges > > Iron Tree Bark Honey (Whole foods market) > > Coffee, regular and decaf > > Skim and Low-fat milk > > Orange Juice, Grapefruit Juice (not fresh squeezed) > > 12 cans of Diet Coke > > 12 cans of Diet Caffeine-Free Coke > > 6 cans Diet 7-up > > Evian - 6 large bottles, 4 bottles iced, 2 bottles at room temperature > > Pellegrino - 4 large bottles > > Kaliber Non-Alcoholic Beer > > Low-Fat cookies (no white sugar) > > Ice Bucket with fresh clean ice > > 1 box Kleenex > > -- all drinks should be iced down in a cooler except for 2 large > bottles ice water > > ELTON JOHN'S DRESSING ROOM FACILITY REQUIREMENT LIST: > > 1 large (8 foot) couch/sofa > > 2 easy chairs (armchairs) > > 2 chairs > > 1 full-length mirror > > 2 table lamps > > 2 floor standing lamps > > 1 coffee table > > 2 large banquet tables (covered in white linen table cloth) > > 4 large green plants > > 1 large bouquet red roses (no white flowers) > > 1 clothes rack > > 1 lined trash can > > 1 local hair dryer adjustable speed > -- > Mark Domyancich > Harpua@revealed.net > tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ - -- Brenda J. Walker soulstreet inc. Phone: 310-373-4927 Fax: 310-373-4957 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 18:38:19 +0100 From: Marian Subject: request (NJC) Can anyone send me a videotape of the TNT concert? It doesn't have to be a PAL version. I have Austrian chocolate and/or coffee to offer in exchange. Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 18:44:06 +0100 From: Marian Subject: re: fav. guitarists (NJC) Paco DeLucia Patty Larkin Shawn Colvin Paul McCartney (I'm not fond of his post-Beatles songs, but Blackbird, Dear Prudence, Norwegian Wood, Mother Nature's Son, etc. are truly remarkable/original) Michael Hedges Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:30:54 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long --- Elton John's In a message dated 11/3/00 3:22:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, Harpua@revealed.net writes: << Marmite (Tudor House, Santa Monica) HP Sauce (Tudor House, Santa Monica) >> what's marmite and hp sauce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 15:43:04 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time Though I was never impressed much by the fact that John (was it John?) used feedback first on a record, I have to admit I really did love John's playing. I took up the guitar because of the Beatles. They were the first one's who made me think of music as something that was ours and not our parents. My put down of John was tongue in cheek and mainly to tease Sue. IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/3/00 11:02:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, > slarty@sympatico.ca writes: > > << Much prefer to see "favourite" guitarists or whatever since there can be > no argument at all what your own favourite guitarist is. In this case > someone even as talent limited as John Lennon can make someone's > favourite list. > >> > Limited as John's talent might have been on guitar, he was the first to use > recorded feedback from an electric guitar on a song, before Jimi, before > Jerry, before any of them. > > Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 15:47:58 -0500 From: Ken Subject: Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time Agree with you 100% and in this regard John was King. Sorry, all you Elvis fans. Susan McNamara wrote: > As far as I'm concerned, talent is also gauged by the amount of > emotion, not only technical ability or style. There are a lot of > people who can get much emotion out of a G Em D song (ref. the recent > Neil Young thread). > > take care, sue ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:54:43 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time Boy that's a switch!! Usually I get teased for liking Sir Paulie!! :-) At 3:43 PM -0500 11/3/00, Ken wrote: >Though I was never impressed much by the fact that John (was it John?) used >feedback first on a record, I have to admit I really did love John's >playing. I >took up the guitar because of the Beatles. They were the first one's who made >me think of music as something that was ours and not our parents. My put down >of John was tongue in cheek and mainly to tease Sue. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 13:03:26 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: Fwd: [Mike's Message] That's THREE Arrests for Bush -- How Many More? (NJC) >THREE STRIKES AND YOU'RE OUT, MR. BUSH > >November 3, 2000 > >Dear friends, > >With the revelation last night of the drunk driving >arrest and conviction in 1976 of George W. Bush, >this marks the THIRD arrest -- that we know of -- >involving this man who would be President. > >Let me ask you, the readers of this letter: How >many times have YOU been arrested? Me, none. >Most of you -- once? twice? This guy has been >arrested AT LEAST THREE TIMES! How many >people do you know have been arrested three >times? Go ahead, do a quick count on your fingers. >The answer? NONE! > >Yet, we are being asked on Tuesday to vote for >a man who has been arrested THREE TIMES. >For President of the United States! Are they >kidding? The Republicans must take us all for >idiots. > >The first arrest of George W. Bush was for >theft at a hotel. The second arrest was for >disorderly conduct at a football game. The >third arrest, we've now learned, is for a very >serious crime -- drunk driving. What's the next >crime committed by George W. Bush that we >will learn of? When will we learn it? It is time for >everyone to demand the truth from Governor >Bush. I'm telling you, we haven't heard the last of >his criminal behavior. > >But next Wednesday will be too late to find out. > >The press should be ashamed of itself for its >laziness. I cannot believe it took a young woman, >Erin Fehlau -- at a FOX affiliate, no less -- up in >Maine to stumble onto this story and do the >necessary work to uncover it. Where have the >big networks' investigative reporters been? > >I'll tell you where: ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL! > >After seeing this local Maine reporter on "Nightline" >last night explain how a policewoman told her she >overheard a conversation between a lawyer and a >judge, and then the reporter started digging around >and found out the facts, it was clear the story was >not planted by the Gore campaign, as Bush and his >people have been insinuating. > >The real story here is how did this conviction get >covered up for so many years? I spoke to a lawyer >last night familiar with these kinds of cases. She >said that a D.U.I., in and of itself, is not something >worth covering up. Had Bush revealed this himself, >he would have found the public forgiving of his >infraction. > >No, my lawyer friend continued, the only reason >to cover it up would be that there was something >ELSE connected to the arrest that night -- e.g., >drugs or resisting arrest. This other potential charge >could have been dropped and expunged. The >reporter was shown only the court docket which >listed Bush's name, address, and the charge to >which he pleaded guilty. What we need to see >is the actual POLICE REPORT from that night. >Assuming it hasn't been doctored, that will tell us >the truth. > >The Bush people have already lied about the >nature of the D.U.I. arrest (they said the cop >pulled Bush over because he was "driving too >slowly"; the arresting officer last night said it >was because Bush had "swerved off on the >shoulder of the road"). Bush himself lied last >night when asked about the night he spent in >jail. "I didn't spend time in jail," he insisted. The >officer told the local reporter that Bush, in fact, >was handcuffed, taken to the station, and held >in custody for at least an hour and a half. > >This is not just some simple traffic ticket. I >don't want to hear one word comparing this >drunk driving conviction to Clinton's >transgressions. Lying about consensual sex you >had with another adult is NOT the same as >getting behind the wheel of a car when you are >drunk and endangering the lives of others >(including the life of your own sister, Mr. Bush, >who was in the car with you that night). > >It is NOT the same as Gore volunteering he >smoked pot in his youth. That act endangered no >one's life and he did not try to cover it up. > >And don't tell us that the drunk driving and the >"drinking problem" was just a "youthful indiscretion." >You were NOT a "youth" when you were in your >THIRTIES on the night you were arrested while >careening off the road. The fact is, according to your >own admission (if not in these words), you were a >drunk and a bum 'til the age of 40, living off your >rich daddy who spent his time bailing you out of >trouble. > >For crying out loud -- if any Republican is reading >this, I implore you: this man does not deserve to >be placed in the highest and most respected office >in the land! Bush voters, come to your senses! If >you can't bring yourself to vote for Nader or Gore, >then show your love for your country and just stay >home next Tuesday. > >Please, save our nation this incredible, unfolding, >never-ending embarrassment. > >Yours, > >Michael Moore >mmflint@aol.com >www.michaelmoore.com > >P.S. Last night, just as the news was breaking about >George W. Bush's arrest and conviction for driving >while drunk, I sent out an open letter toGovernor Bush >(click on: www.michaelmoore.com/2000_11_02.html), >asking him to answer three questions which I believe >affect our national security: > >1. Are you, Mr. Bush, unable to read and write on an >adult level? > >2. Are you an alcoholic and, if so, how will this affect >your performance as Commander-in-Chief? > >3. You say that you have not committed any felonies >since 1975. What felonies did you commit PRIOR to >that date? > >I implore our nation's media to demand answers to >these questions before Tuesday's election. The people >have a right to know. > >P.P.S. "The Awful Truth" is pre-empted tonight. Our >election special marathon is on Bravo, this Sunday >afternoon, beginning at 4pm ET > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 16:08:27 EST From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: RE: "Carole King Decoder ring" Jim, I completely agree with you and pop music. I am 20 and sometimes get bored of listening to just the "lovey dovey and/or rock n' roll music" as far as shows go, I have been to a good amount of rock shows and it gets a bit taxing after a while.. that is why recently i have been going to see different performers.. like the mIngus big band, DJ shadow, Lauryn Hill, etc.. Rock shows can be very predictable.. and i get tired of watching some performers go through the typical speal.. However, the flipside to this statement, I love to see Dylan whenever he comes through town.. i have seen him 4 times..and i love it better and better. Last time i went to a bob show, he did ONe Too Many Mornings and JOey.. i was going to piss myself with excitement.. and he and susan tedeschi jammed together on Rainy Day Women blair _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:28:07 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Fwd: [NJC] That's THREE Arrests for Bush -- How Many More? (NJC) - --- jan gyn forwarded: > >Let me ask you, the readers of this letter: How > >many times have YOU been arrested? Once ... for breaking curfew and public intoxication in the early morning hours of January 1, 1981 ... by the charmingly misguided Police Force of my Highland Park, TX (Dallas suburb) home. I should add that, at the time, I was taking an approximately 1 1/2 block WALK home from a party at a friends house. Yep, leave it up to Rowe to get busted for WALKING home after a New Year's Eve Party. Next time, I'll DRIVE, and who knows, I might end up in the White House! Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:15:14 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long --- Elton John's Pat asked: << Marmite (Tudor House, Santa Monica) > > HP Sauce (Tudor House, Santa Monica) > >> > > what's marmite and hp sauce Marmite is another brand of that brown stuff you spread on bread, usually known as Vegemite. I don't know what HP sauce is. The Tudor House is a little store in Santa Monica that sells all kinds of products from the "old country" for the British Isles ex-patriates who live there. At one time Santa Monica had the largest population of English and Scottish people in the U.S. outside of the U.K. and I think that stat still holds. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 16:31:40 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Fwd: [Mike's Message] That's THREE Arrests for Bush -- HowMany More? (NJC) As someone who is passionate about his politics, I thank the members of this wonderful group for refraining in these final weeks from letting the list get political. Every list I'm on has been inundated with Gore and Bush bashing and it is getting all so tiring. Both are honorable men in my opinion, though I will only vote for one. Let us continue to keep the JMDL Bush and Gore free until at least next Wednesday. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:36:34 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Fwd: [NJC] That's THREE Arrests for Bush -- How Many More? (NJC) Don offered: > --- jan gyn forwarded: > > > >Let me ask you, the readers of this letter: How > > >many times have YOU been arrested? > > Once ... for breaking curfew and public intoxication > in the early morning hours of January 1, 1981 ... by > the charmingly misguided Police Force of my Highland > Park, TX (Dallas suburb) home. Half the guys I knew got arrested for DUI when they were in their 20s 25 years ago. They all had to spend the night in jail and then were released. Since then the laws have tightened and changed considerably but back then, right or wrong, it was not that unusual for people to be let off lightly as long as no one was hurt and there was no property damage. The current professions of those irresponsible men I used to know: 1) Calif. State Judge; 2) Attorney; 3) Art Director for PBS Productions; 4) Psychologist and Marriage and Family Counselor Not saying it's acceptable to drink and drive, but it is interesting how attitudes change and kind of scary, too, to read the rantings displayed in Michael Moore's article. Kakki, pulled over and threatened with arrest for breaking curfew in 1970 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:44:39 -0600 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Long Necks (NJC) Marcel wrote: "10) Tie. David Lahm, wins by a neck over Michael Paz, Steve Polifka. One weekend in New Orleans." Marcel it must have been a giraffe. Nice to mentioned in such company though thank you. Paz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 16:54:21 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Rock Stars and Requests(njc) > > << Marmite (Tudor House, Santa Monica) > > > > HP Sauce (Tudor House, Santa Monica) > > >> > > > > what's marmite and hp sauce > > Marmite is another brand of that brown stuff you spread on bread, usually > known as Vegemite. I don't know what HP sauce is. HP sauce is what you put on those new edible computers from Hewlett Packard. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 15:50:51 -0600 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Fave Pianists (NJC) Wow this is a rough one for me. Once again Joni is a given cause her style of playing is just so cool for me. I love all of her piano songs. Top five pianists would be (this week) Tori Amos (WoW this lady is amazing on the piano and is so bizarre in her approach. She also gives really good bench) Elton John (Some gorgeous stuff over the years that brought Bernies lyrics to life) Fess (How could I live in New Orleans and not) Lyle Mays (I love his sound and his approach to the instrument) Keith Jarrett Keyboard Players Roberto Moreira Rick Wakeman Steve Barber Tony Kaye Stevie Wonder Other piano players and keyboard players that move me beyond words: David Lahm, Greig, Bruce Hornsby, Keith Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Raymond (Crosbys Kid), Oscar Peterson (esp. that double record with Joe Pass), Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, Fats Domino, Stevie Winwood, Leon Russell (Still love that song Straight Brother from Asylum Choir II with Mark Benno and Rita Coolidge), Nicky Hopkins, Chuck Leavell, Tony Kaye, Trevor Rabin, so many to name as soon as I hit the send button I will think of 10 more that I love. Ok let's do drummers too so we don't hurt any feelings Carter Beauford (the best in the world what a beautiful creative guy) Ringo Starr Alan White Bill Bruford Willie Green/Russell Batiste (Tie) Drummers I cannot live without: Brian Blade, Danny Gottlieb, Airto Moreira, Tony Williams, Jack DeJohnette, Ginger Baker, Charlie Watts, Kevin Aucoin (NO not the make up artist), John Bonham, and ........ Yippie it's FRIDAY. Have a great weekend everyone! Michael NP-Plene Lune en Dicembre-Zachary Richard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:56:57 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Fwd: [NJC] That's THREE Arrests for Bush -- How Many More? (NJC) - --- Kakki wrote: The current > professions of those irresponsible men I used to > know: 1) Calif. State > Judge; 2) Attorney; 3) Art Director for PBS > Productions; 4) Psychologist and > Marriage and Family Counselor > And I'll bet I can pretty much guess, out of that bunch, who's still "partying" and who isn't!!! ;-) Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 17:08:00 -0500 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Re: Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long --- Elton John's Being the proper Canadian, I can enlighten you about HP Sauce. It is the British version of Heinz 57- like a steak sauce that contains worcestershire sauce, molasses, fruit- not sure what else. The Brits seem to eat it w/everything. It is favoured by the Royal family, and has the Royal crest on the label, which means that it is the official sauce of the Royals. Hope I got it correct! I'm sure the British JMDLers will correct me if I'm wrong! Regards, Stephen in Vancouver "Kakki" on 11/03/2000 01:15:14 PM Please respond to "Kakki" To: Siresorrow@aol.com, Harpua@revealed.net, magpie119@juno.com, joni@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Stephen Epstein/Agmont) Subject: Re: Rock Stars and Requests(sjc) Long --- Elton John's VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Pat asked: << Marmite (Tudor House, Santa Monica) > > HP Sauce (Tudor House, Santa Monica) > >> > > what's marmite and hp sauce Marmite is another brand of that brown stuff you spread on bread, usually known as Vegemite. I don't know what HP sauce is. The Tudor House is a little store in Santa Monica that sells all kinds of products from the "old country" for the British Isles ex-patriates who live there. At one time Santa Monica had the largest population of English and Scottish people in the U.S. outside of the U.K. and I think that stat still holds. Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #578 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?