From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #577 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 3 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 577 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Sign up for VideoTree #2 now: http://www.jmdl.com/trading ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Seal (WAS Re: Belinda Carlisle) NJC [Jason Maloney ] 5 Rock Bassists ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] re: 5 favorite guitarists ["Blair Fraipont" ] Patti and Eric Sitting In A Tree..... was Re: he is too a saint -njc ["Ji] RE: Great Pianists- Carole King... ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Belinda Carlisle NJC ["Kakki" ] michael ruff njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] the bangles NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 03:34:13 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Seal (WAS Re: Belinda Carlisle) NJC VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe I'll second that! All three albums are among my all-time favourites...with II edging Human Being, and the debut bringing up the rear. It's a close thing, though. Pleased to hear he hasn't given up hope. There HAS to be a place for Seal in the music scene. It needs an act like him more than ever. Jason. Eric Wilcox wrote: > > I think Seal's first two records are wonderful. The second album was > particularly strong. A combination that a particularly enjoy-- that of pop, > r&b, and jazz-- flourises there. Seal's third record wasn't altogether > bad-- but it lacked the craftmanship of the second record-- and it never > really took off. I saw Seal on television recently saying that he took the > failure in stride, and was working now on a fourth album which he feels will > be his strongest yet. > > I, for one, am looking forward to see what's next for him. > > eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:44:50 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Great Pianists- Carole King... VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com I've seen the name Carole King thrown out as a great pianists here. Ummm........ Well, first the positives...... Ms. King has written some great, great songs. In fact she's written LOTS and LOTS of great, great songs. I have eight of her albums. 8. In fact I was into her stories of love and loss before I discovered.... uh... the true way. :) That said, I must interject: What the heck are you guys talking about? Ms. King bangs chords on a keyboard. She clangs out two finger solos. She has enough talent to flesh out wonderful, humable tunes, but she's no 'great' as a player. In my book. Now, I'm basing my judgement, ignorant as it may be, on the period from "Writer" through "Thoroghbred", including "Tapestry", "Music", and "Really Rosie". In other words, her career peak. Mind you, I love Carole King! But she's no Ramsey Lewis. She' no Garth Hudson or Rick Wakeman. Oscar Peterson. Hell, I'll take Dave Brubeck and Keith Emerson although those guys tend to be 'bangers' too. I'm growing old for this rock era, moon-june stuff. I'm buying jazz and JMDL songwriters lately. It's a wacky world when I can hear a superior pianist who can improvise on the spot, embarassing any of my idols, on any night of the week for $8 at "The Blue Wisp Jazz Club" in downtown Cincinnati....... and I don't go. But if Carole King came to town, I'd gladly scheme a way to the fron of the line & pay $60 to sit up close and listen to her bang-bang-bang all night long. I have some bad musical habits and tastes but I'm growing out of them. I love Carole King. But as a technician, well.... Regretfully turning in his Carole King Fan Club secret decoder ring, Jim Lamadoo np-- Charles Mingus'es "Mingus Ah Um" npimh: Jokes from a hot movie I rented tonight- "Duck Soup" starring the Marx Brothers. Hey, I told you I'm growing old. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:56:43 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: 5 Rock Bassists VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Okay, With apologies to all of the jazz players who stomp my heros, here are my heros. Jaco & Larry Larry Graham (the guy who played in Sly and the Family Stone) Steve Howe and Sir Paul McCartney. I love Sir Paul McCartney's contribution to side 2 of Abbey Road. As the expression goes, the bass line is to die for. If you have never heard this, you have never been to church. You have never been to bed. You have never smelled the ocean. You have never heard your Mother sing "Happy Birthday" to you. :) Jim Lamadoo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 23:54:50 EST From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: re: 5 favorite guitarists VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com 1. Frank Zappa I think he is underrated, he did more adventurous things with his music, than Jimmy Page or Eric Clapton, ofcourse, his music is totally different period, (he never played straight forward blues like clapton or page). Yet, i loved his approach and how he weaved his love for composition into his playing and his very distinct sound. 2. Jeff Beck---What more can be said? 3. Ry Cooder-- I have just got into him.. i love his sound.. it is so earthy, so rich and full of life. 4.Carlos Santana 5.Wes Montgomery other menionables: Peter Buck From R.E.M. -- I love how he is the anti-guitar hero, that and his simplistic Rickenbacker playing is just great Joni--- love that rhythm playing.. and her chords.. totally set her apart from any other guitarists.. in my opinion, she is equal with Zappa in creativity with her music, they both took it, redefined it, and didnt care if they lost any fans when they went in other directions. love blair _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:01:09 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Patti and Eric Sitting In A Tree..... was Re: he is too a saint -njc VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com << Wasn't it Clapton who stole George Harrison's wife?>> I tried to give you con- sol- ation. When your old man had let you.... down. Like a fool, I fell in love with you. You turned my whole world upside down, Layla. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 02:32:36 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Great Pianists- Carole King... jim, i agree with you that carole is no rick wakeman, but then again this a matter of the ''virtuoso''. i voted for her as a great pianist because she is a master of piano harmony. and her technique isn't THAT easy, either. she's really beyond the chopsticks level. i think it is hard to write exclusively on the piano. it takes a lot of musicianship to find chord progressions and stuff that still sounds original after, what? maybe six or seven hundred songs? i mean, carole king has squeezed every possible hook and phrase from her piano. and again, when you try to play her songs, you realize that they're not so basic at all. of course, ''locomotion'' or ''it might as well rain until september'' are kindergarten stuff. but, although it may sound like bang bang bang bang when you listen to the song, ''natural woman'' is hard to play and sing at the same time [and she's done it live] and in all its apparent simplicity, it's a very powerful piano part. anyhoo, i made it clear that i would include self/accompanists under the category i was voting. that's why i didn't vote for robert holliston or duke ellington. the only virtuoso i decided to leave on my list was patrick moraz because of his synthesizer solo on sound chaser [yes, relayer]. to me that solo is the ultimate synth thing!!! so i said what the heck, i'll leave martha argerich out but i'll vote for moraz. but yes, carole's solos are dismal. wallyk - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Jim L'Hommedieu Enviado el: Viernes, 03 de Noviembre de 2000 01:45 p.m. Para: _JMDL - June 98 Asunto: Re: Great Pianists- Carole King... VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com I've seen the name Carole King thrown out as a great pianists here. Ummm........ Well, first the positives...... Ms. King has written some great, great songs. In fact she's written LOTS and LOTS of great, great songs. I have eight of her albums. 8. In fact I was into her stories of love and loss before I discovered.... uh... the true way. :) That said, I must interject: What the heck are you guys talking about? Ms. King bangs chords on a keyboard. She clangs out two finger solos. She has enough talent to flesh out wonderful, humable tunes, but she's no 'great' as a player. In my book. Now, I'm basing my judgement, ignorant as it may be, on the period from "Writer" through "Thoroghbred", including "Tapestry", "Music", and "Really Rosie". In other words, her career peak. Mind you, I love Carole King! But she's no Ramsey Lewis. She' no Garth Hudson or Rick Wakeman. Oscar Peterson. Hell, I'll take Dave Brubeck and Keith Emerson although those guys tend to be 'bangers' too. I'm growing old for this rock era, moon-june stuff. I'm buying jazz and JMDL songwriters lately. It's a wacky world when I can hear a superior pianist who can improvise on the spot, embarassing any of my idols, on any night of the week for $8 at "The Blue Wisp Jazz Club" in downtown Cincinnati....... and I don't go. But if Carole King came to town, I'd gladly scheme a way to the fron of the line & pay $60 to sit up close and listen to her bang-bang-bang all night long. I have some bad musical habits and tastes but I'm growing out of them. I love Carole King. But as a technician, well.... Regretfully turning in his Carole King Fan Club secret decoder ring, Jim Lamadoo np-- Charles Mingus'es "Mingus Ah Um" npimh: Jokes from a hot movie I rented tonight- "Duck Soup" starring the Marx Brothers. Hey, I told you I'm growing old. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 00:36:30 -0500 From: revrvl@pathwaynet.com Subject: News Story No way I could get an NJC in the tag so I apologise in advance. My dear opponent is lying through her teeth, breaking her word, and lying to the press. Two of my staunchest longstanding political opponets (who dislike me anyway) have switched to my side because of my opponent's lack of integrity. This is getting to be a very strange election. Two former Republican office holders have also endorsed me, and a whole slew of regular Republican members have endorsed me. The usual Dem vote is 20-25% out here... so this is extraordinary. I suspect that the GOP backing me is because my opponent is so lacking in integrity on this and many things, they know I am honest and have a sense of honor, so try to get me elected and then kick me out in four years with another Republican. But who knows; this has all been so wacky, getting support from my enemies and my opponent being such a liar! I had guessed that I might up the usual Dem vote from 20-25% to 35% but I may be able to do better! Be prepared to hug me when I lose or when this opponent of mine pulls some negative campaigning, but at this point, anything seems possible. What a wacky, wild ride this year has been. Can't wait to see how it ends! Sorry for boring the thousands who don't c are and for the lack of NJC tag but there was no way to send this individually without being here for hours. (the Rev) Vince http://zwire2.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=1032494&BRD=1625&PAG=461&dept_id=75221&rfi=6 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + As featured in the on-line version of The Daily News. + Web Address: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?brd=1625 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:56:00 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Favorite pianists/keyboardists Wally K wrote: > i absolutely adore all the keyboardists that have played for rickie lee > jones, especially: > neil larsen Wow, he played for Rickie Lee? A friend of mine dated him for awhile in the late 70s. I remember him as kind of quiet and shy, but he was "known" in the biz. I lost track of him after his album with Buzz Feiten. > michael ruff Oh Wally!! I'm completely mad over him. He lives in Maui now but comes out one weekend a month to play at the La Ve Lee and me and a staunch group of my friends and his followers show up religiously. He often teams up with the afore-mentioned Marco Mendoza on bass and Jeff Pevar on lead guitar. Those nights have been in my top 10 musical experiences of all time. You can now join the JMDL Fans of Michael Ruff club that Lori from France and I have started ;-D Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 22:21:58 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Belinda Carlisle NJC I really didn't want to like the Go Gos when they started out but I couldn't help but like them - they were great. But I absolutely LOVED the Bangles. Every now and then the Go Gos reunite and do a night or two at House of Blues or around L.A. So do the Bangles and the shows still get raves. Was the rumor that Belinda was the daughter of Chuck Connors aka The Rifleman on the 50s TV series, really true?? ;-) And I LOVE Seal..... And I LOVE Clapton, too for that matter!! harrumph! Anyone in doubt about Clapton needs to buy the Anthology and listen to it straight through. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 03:44:19 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: michael ruff njc wow kakki!!!!! one more reason to visit you soooooooooooooooooon!!!! wallyK >>>>>>>>>>> michael ruff Oh Wally!! I'm completely mad over him. He lives in Maui now but comes out one weekend a month to play at the La Ve Lee and me and a staunch group of my friends and his followers show up religiously. He often teams up with the afore-mentioned Marco Mendoza on bass and Jeff Pevar on lead guitar. Those nights have been in my top 10 musical experiences of all time. You can now join the JMDL Fans of Michael Ruff club that Lori from France and I have started ;-D Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 03:51:11 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: the bangles NJC kakki, the bangles rule!!!!!! wallyk, walking like an egyptian and eating pizza - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Kakki Enviado el: Viernes, 03 de Noviembre de 2000 03:22 a.m. Para: Jason Maloney; Mark or Travis CC: catman; joni Asunto: Re: Belinda Carlisle NJC I really didn't want to like the Go Gos when they started out but I couldn't help but like them - they were great. But I absolutely LOVED the Bangles. Every now and then the Go Gos reunite and do a night or two at House of Blues or around L.A. So do the Bangles and the shows still get raves. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #577 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?