From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #575 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Thursday, November 2 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 575 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Favorite pianists ["Brian Workman" ] Favorite pianists/guitarists/Enya (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] Don Freed [Steve Dulson ] Re: Favorite pianists [FredNow@aol.com] RE: JMDL Digest V2000 #574 ["Kate Bennett" ] Guitarists - the one we've all forgotten. (NJC) [Fonimitchell@aol.com] Foni Mitchell live (FC - Foni content) [Fonimitchell@aol.com] RE: 5 Top Guitarists (VLJC) ["Susan" ] Axilar Moonrise ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Guitarists...... NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] fave guitarists / piano players [dave and beth fairall ] Re: 5 Top Guitarists (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] guitarists, pianists & bears (oh my!) NJC ["Mark or Travis" ] Favorite pianists/keyboardists ["Kakki" ] Don Freed / Chuck Mitchell ["kerry" ] Re: guitarists, pianists & bears (oh my!) NJC ["Victor Johnson" ] equal time for the keys (VLJC) [BarBearUh ] Re: Guitarists - the one we've all forgotten. (NJC) [Les Irvin Subject: Re: Favorite pianists OK, Leon Russell Bruce Hornsby Bill Payne (Feat) Billy Preston Chuck Leavell - ----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda J. Walker To: Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 1:18 PM Subject: Favorite pianists > There are so many, but here's a few names to keep the thread going: > > Thelonious Monk! > Bud Powell > Elton John (I think he's largely underrated because of being a pop guy) > Elbernita "Twinkie" Clark of the Clark Sisters (contemporary gospel - > simply fantastic!) > Fats Waller > > Brenda > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:25:46 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Favorite pianists/guitarists/Enya (NJC) How come so many of these posts aren't labelled NJC????? - -- ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:38:24 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Don Freed Julius - Thank you for posting the great article on Don Freed!! Interesting to get his take on the relationship with Joni. Very interesting to me also was his relationship to Gabriel Dumont. Dumont was Louis Riel's right-hand man in the Saskatchewan Meti uprising of around 1880. Joni's first gig was at the Louis Riel Coffeehouse. Coincidence, or.... :) - -- ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:39:19 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite pianists Jerry Notaro wrote: >>Katy Webster >>George Winston >>Tchiakovsky >>Fred Simon >>George Shearing Jerry ... I love you maaaan!! - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:31:50 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2000 #574 i forgot santana, clapton, & cooder- no way five is possible... & i just remembered i HAVE heard Keith live, a looooong time ago.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:00:23 EST From: Fonimitchell@aol.com Subject: Guitarists - the one we've all forgotten. (NJC) It's so obvious really. The best guitarist that ever walked the planet is ...... NIGEL TUFNEL (Spinal Tap) "Look at that sustain." Closely followed by fellow band member David St. Hubbins. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:03:09 EST From: Fonimitchell@aol.com Subject: Foni Mitchell live (FC - Foni content) Hello everyone - more gig news. Saturday 11th November - The Waggon & Horses, Adderely Street, Digbeth, Birmingham (England). Bye for now. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 19:09:03 -0600 From: "Susan" Subject: RE: 5 Top Guitarists (VLJC) Well finally someone mentions - Alvin Lee! One of the best performances from Woodstock (the real one). I have been observing the choices and so many are so good. But not being a musician, and tuning much more in to voices and the song as a whole, I didn't feel really qualified . So I tried to think of which guitarists songs or their actual performances have stood out in my memory since the mid 60's. As far as really looking at their body of work besides Joni and Jimi I am no connoisseur. I do remember great moments with Carlos Santana & Alvin Lee. Also remembering Jeff Beck and David Gilmour enough to add them. So I can't add either! Actually when I saw Santana he opened for Clapton, note he does not make my list. Even if my list would go on, although I adore Cream, - Stevie Ray and a good many Blues guitarist (being from Chicago) would surpass Clapton. Who I see as an impostor in the Blues world. I am ready to be stoned now - have at me. This in no way started out as a Clapton bashing, he just seems so diluted the past 10 years or so. Peace Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 01:19:43 -0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Axilar Moonrise Hello All I was just reading that article about DJRD posted in Today In Joni History and It says that the painting that we know as Axilar Moonrise was actually called 'Don Juan's Reckless Daughter and depicts a couple entwined and a woman in the distance. I always thought it was a painting of A whale!!! Maybe it's one of those parentheses titles like Sweet Sucker Dance (Abundance and Decline) You Turn Me On (I'm A Radio) Chinese Cafe (Does Great Chow Mein) Can someone do a parody about 'You Turn Me On (I'm A Gigolo)' It would be interesting to do don'tcha think? Much Joni (and don't have glaucoma) Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 08:28:34 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Guitarists...... NJC Don't worry Marcel- Pete's "cool" status is life-long! The only guy cooler is that REALLY old guy- ya' know- the one who kicked it all off and invented the Duck Walk- Chuck Berry! Marcel fretted (HA! A Guitar pun!): I was just informed by Bob Mueller that The Who are the week's guests on The Simpsons. Now I know WHY Pete wrote that line. Lama new email address: jlamadoo@home.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 20:37:10 -0600 From: dave and beth fairall Subject: fave guitarists / piano players Have to join the fun.... Guitar: 1) Pat Metheny 2) Bill Frissell 3) John Scofield 4) Robben Ford 5) Jimi Hendrix 6) Pat Martino 7) Mike Stern 8) Jeff Beck Piano; 1) Herbie Hancock 2) Joe Zawinal 3) Art Tatum 4) Oscar Peterson 5) Nils Lan Doky 6) Chick Corea 7) Kenny Kirkland 8) Joey Calderazzo Dave Fairall Baltimore ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:59:27 -0800 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Queer Duck - [NJC] Don't know if anyone has posted this URL or anyone else has seen the previous episodes . . . they're in "flash" format and hilarious. http://www.icebox.com/viewer_frameset.asp?show=175&episode=379&sub=true Richard in San Francisco richard2sf@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:02:09 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: 5 Top Guitarists (NJC) << This in no way started out as a Clapton bashing, he just seems so diluted the past 10 years or so. >> No flamesfrom me, Susan...Clapton has been overrated for most of his career imo, at least smart enough to surround himself with good players, Duane Allman, Steve Winwood, Jimmy Page etc... I picked up "Riding With the King", his collaborative effort with BB King...what a difference! Clapton phones in every vocal and every guitar note he plays. BB, meanwhile doesn't know HOW to phone it in...you can almost see the sweat he's working up on every song he does. It's incredible how the record picks up momentum every time King plays & sings and fizzles every time the narcoleptic Clapton pretends like he belongs on the same record. Pat called Clapton a saint...you missed it by a letter Pat...he's an "ain't". Bob NP: The Who, "Heaven and Hell" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:11:22 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: guitarists, pianists & bears (oh my!) NJC guitarists: Jorma Kaukonen Jimi Hendrix Steve Howe Michael Timmins Joni Mitchell pianists: Teddy Wilson Oscar Peterson Herbie Hancock Duke Ellington Laura Nyro Nicky Hopkins bears: I won't tell you who my favorite bears are. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 21:50:07 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: RE: Joni/guitar gods NJC Sue wrote: >>Honorable Mentions: Nancy Wilson - with sister Ann fronted the band HEART. Listen to her play Even it Up acoustically (on Live at McCabes) and you get a real picture of her great guitar style (without all the echo machines!)>> Thank you for this! I think the sisters Wilson get dismissed as "fluff artists", but are very talented musicians! Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:30:08 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Favorite pianists/keyboardists Whether composer and/or performer - Laura Nyro David Benoit Stevie Wonder Michael Ruff Jimmy Webb Joni Billy Joel Elton Bill Champlin Fred Simon (mee, too) Tori Amos And geez, I don't think any of us remembered Jonatha Brooke fo fave/best/fantastic guitarist! An egregious omission! ;-) Kakki NP: Joni live at The Specturm 1976 - Don Juan's Reckless Daughter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:07:44 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: Don Freed / Chuck Mitchell <>Beyond the star-making machine Joni Mitchell's friend Don Freed has looked at life from both sides now - and he's chosen his songwriting work with kids and his Saskatoon apartment over Mitchell's mansion>> Thanks for this insight into Don Freed. This is somewhat unrelated, but this article made me think about the time I went to see Chuck Mitchell at a small coffee house in northern Wisconsin (when I was in college.) I only went because I knew he had been married to Joni and I even bought one of his albums. (I think he did "The Circle Game" on it...) Did anyone else hear him in concert? And, does anyone know what he's doing now? Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 23:02:22 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: guitarists, pianists & bears (oh my!) NJC > > bears: > > I won't tell you who my favorite bears are. > > Mark in Seattle Favorite bears: 1.Dancing Bear (from Captain Kangaroo) 2.Paddington Bear 3. The Grateful Dead bears 4. Garcia 5. Winnie the Pooh Victor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 22:05:58 -0600 From: evian Subject: Halloween songs njc > I can't > think > of any songs that mention the word Halloween. > There is the great "Everyday is Halloween" by Ministry. This is from... hmmm... 84 or so? It was before Jourgenson went totally industrial (which was before he went speed metal....). A great song that satisfied goths, industrial fans, and dance floor maniacs! Sorry if someone posted this already, I am waaaay behind! Happy Thursday! Evian np: Julian Lennon -- Valotte ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 23:25:05 -0500 From: BarBearUh Subject: equal time for the keys (VLJC) there are, of course, many incredible technical players out there (and most of 'em are jazz & classical players). i could think about this for quite a while, but i'll just jump to the things that immediately come to mind... steve nieve of EC&the attractions - hands down, my favorite. has anyone ever heard any of his solo work? this guy can play anything. that tour he & EC did as a duet was pretty staggering, especially when they played the piano-driven version of 'watching the detectives'. cyrus chesnut - haven't heard any of his solo work (tho it's been well-reviewed), but i saw him in betty carter's band 5 or 6 times and he was quite something. his playing on her album 'it's not about the melody' is sweeeet, one of my favorite jazz albums ever. i don't know the name, but whoever plays on eric clapton's 'unplugged' album - the thing i like best about that record is the piano. stevie wonder & kate bush get complete adoration for using-the-keyboard-for-everything. kate can be very complex, but the beautiful simplicity of the piano track on 'moments of pleasure' is to die for. gregg allman is a fabulous blues organ player, especially live-jammin'. bob dylan - i've always been a sucker for his very basic, very rolly r&r piano playing. nina simone is worth a mention for the riff she plays on her cover of leonard cohen's 'suzanne'. there's been a lot of exquisite piano work on many van morrison albums, and i love the piano in the song 'aryan mist' (don't know if i spelled that right). jacky terrason's work with cassandra wilson was great, and whoever she had playing with her on her last tour was just fabulous. hoagie carmichael - i love his playing in "to have and have not", my favorite part of the movie (you know, the movie where betty tells bogie to whistle). i LOVE piano! in fact, i think one of the things that i really love about joni's guitar playing is that it has a real piano feel... barbara np: brian blade, perpetual ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 21:39:40 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Guitarists - the one we've all forgotten. (NJC) At 11/1/2000 06:00 PM, Fonimitchell@aol.com wrote: >It's so obvious really. The best guitarist that ever walked the planet is >NIGEL TUFNEL (Spinal Tap) "Look at that sustain." That is correct, even if only for the fact that his amps go up to 11. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 23:59:19 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite pianists NJC (md) 1) Garth Hudson -If you filter out everything and just listen to his parts he is maybe the most creative player of all. he can create endless interesting parts. One of the very greatest solos of all time that I ever saw was garth at the Partamount in Oakland doing a concertina solo breakl. Just tore the house down effortlessly and left everyone breathless. All with his vacant look. Unforgettable. 2) Elton- The one piano player whose style I can listen to forever. 3)Liberace- No one could touch this man as a showman OR a player. except.... 4) Little Richard: Have you ever heard this mans rap between the songs ? The total ultimate performance package. he has this live tape out which is at the Apollo Thratre in New York and its probably the single highest energy performance I have ever heard. Ripped off shamelessly early in his career his explosive early shows were stuff of legends. From the Who School of over the top performeristics (maybe Pete was from the little richard school) BUT could also play amazingly. You cant ever stop Little Richard you can only hope to contain him. 5)Peter Gabriel: In the top five live performances I have ever seen. Unbelievable produciton and the quitessential synth artist. 6) Sylvester Stewart : Huge influence on all of music. Try to find someone who played like him before him. 7) Alfred Brendel : Amazing clarity dexterity and feeling for the most difficult classical piano compositions. 8) Christine McVee : Love her voice, love her songs, love her playing. Among the most underrated female artists first, pianistas second. 9) Joni on the piano. 10) Tie. David Lahm, wins by a neck over Michael Paz, Steve Polifka. One weekend in New Orleans. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 23:21:52 -0600 From: Scott and Jody Subject: Re: guitarists, pianists & bears (oh my!) NJC Guitarists: Jimi Hendrix Leo Kottke Stevie Ray Vaughn Joni Mitchell Jerry Garcia I've got another list for bass players...It's too difficult to list just five. There's also a list for JMDL guitarists/pianists-keyboardists Pianists: Ellis Marsalis Bruce Hornsby Keith Jarrett Tom Waits John Eric Thiede Favorite Bears: Fozzie Bear from the Muppets, Walter Payton - From Chicago Bears, The Grateful Dead Bears and the Real live Bear I saw in MN just last week. I must say that coyote are much more frightening than bears. Coyote have a certain cry/scream that send chills down your spine, especially when they are just outside your tent!!! "No regrets Coyote," but I'm glad to be back in Chicago! jody Pianists: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 23:33:57 -0600 From: Scott and Jody Subject: Re: Guitarists - the one we've all forgotten. (NJC) > At 11/1/2000 06:00 PM, Fonimitchell@aol.com wrote: > >It's so obvious really. The best guitarist that ever walked the planet is > >NIGEL TUFNEL (Spinal Tap) "Look at that sustain." > > Then Les wrote: > That is correct, even if only for the fact that his amps go up to 11. > > And if we ever have a thread about our favorite drummers, most of them are covered. For every drummer who ever lived - and died, played with this renowned rock band! I was thinkin' about going as Bobby Fleckman for Halloween! jody ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 23:56:12 -0600 (CST) From: michael w yarbrough Subject: Re: guitarists, pianists & bears (oh my!) NJC > I've got another list for bass players...It's too difficult to list just Another great idea!! Me'Shell NdegeOcello, numero uno in my book Jaco Pastorius Nile Rodgers Tina Weymouth There have to be more...need to go look at my record/CD collection. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 23:43:41 -0800 From: Steven Barton Subject: Re: guitarists, pianists & bears (oh my!) NJC Favorite pianists, Jimmy Webb Bruce Hornsby Marc Cohn Mark wrote: > I won't tell you who my favorite bears are. [[[[ big grin ]]]] Steve ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #575 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?