From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #573 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 1 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 573 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Seeing Stars NJC [catman ] Five Fave Guitarists ["Ramcey" ] Re: Back in 1974 (MD) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: Five Fave Guitarists ["cassy" ] Re: Five Fave Guitarists njc ["Mike Hicks" ] 5 fave guitarists ["Mike Hicks" ] fave guitars [BarBearUh ] Who's on The Simpsons? NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Five Guitarists [Leslie Mixon ] five favorite guitarists [Anne Sandstrom ] Five Favorite guitarists ["Brenda J. Walker" ] Joan Baez--Gulf Winds NJC [SMEBD@aol.com] Re: Five Fave Guitarists ["Mike Hicks" ] Re: Five Fave Guitarists ["Mike Hicks" ] Fave guitarists (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] Re: Fave guitarists [Siresorrow@aol.com] Today in Joni History - October 31 [Today in Joni History ] Re: Five Favorite guitarists [Don Rowe ] Re: Five Fave Guitarists (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: Five Fave Guitarists [Jerry Notaro ] Neck (NJC) ["Michael Paz" ] Re: Five Fave Guitarists njc [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: costumes for tonight [vjc] [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Five Favorite guitarists-njc [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Five Fave Guitarists (md)-njc [Siresorrow@aol.com] halloween songs (NJC) [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: costumes for tonight njc [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: halloween songs (NJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Five Fave Guitarists [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: halloween songs (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Neil & Joni's (& Jimi's) Guitar playing [Howard ] BSN parody for election day [JoniMessages@aol.com] Elvis's favorite Joni albums [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: Nature & church NJC [FredNow@aol.com] Re: halloween songs (NJC) ["Victor Johnson" ] Five Fave Guitarist (NJC) ["Happy The Man" ] Re: halloween songs (NJC) [Deb Messling ] Five fave guitarists (NJC) [Fonimitchell@aol.com] Re: costumes for tonight njc [Deb Messling ] Re: Five fave guitarists (NJC) ["Brian Workman" ] RE: halloween songs (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Back in 1974 (MD) [Vince Lavieri ] Re: BSN parody for election day ["Patricia O'Connor" ] 5 fave guitarists ["Stephen Epstein" ] Shameless self-promotion - incredibly NJC! ["Hell" ] Re: Nature & church NJC ["Hell" ] Re: Five Favorite guitarists-njc ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: halloween songs (NJC) ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Back in 1974 (MD) ["Hell" ] Re: 5 fave guitarists [Janet Hess ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:17:42 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Seeing Stars NJC > but I mainly work in the back of a building > downtown with NO WINDOWS and no more summers off!!! I'm already planning my > next vacation - We will start in northern Wisconsin, head to Minnesota and > then, Canada of course!!!! I now hate the city and any built areas. This small town I live in is okay. It is a completely different world to Londodn. When i walk the dogs in the morning, I exchange hellos or good mornings with people I do not know. I am not assailed by loads of traffic and pollution. The three times I have returned to Londodn made me wonder how I amganed to live there for so long. The amotshphere, bopth physical and emotional, changes as soon as you hit the outskirts. Throat becomes dry and nose bunged, tension rises and the behaviour of other people drops to a low level. 'every one hates everyone-you can feel it out in traffic'. bw colin > > > Kerry - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:34:21 -0500 From: "Ramcey" Subject: Five Fave Guitarists 1) Richard Thompson 2) Stevie Ray Vaughn 3) Bruce Cockburn 4) Albert Collins 5) Tony Rice Ramcey tCH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:52:07 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Back in 1974 (MD) I always think of the movie Monterrey Pop with Janis Joplin doing Ball & Chain, and Otis Redding doing Try a Little Tenderness. And No Nukes with Bruce doing Rosalita. But the Ultimate for me was The Who doing Summertime Blues. marcel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:01:28 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists In no particular order, Roy Buchanan Earl Klugh Billy Butler Larry Coryell Yngwie Malmsteen And there are so many more... Elmore James heads up the list of runners-up Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:31:51 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists njc > From: JRMCo1@aol.com > Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:37:04 EST > Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists > To: joni@smoe.org > Reply-to: JRMCo1@aol.com > Here's mine: > > Jimi Hendrix > Frank Marino > Stanley Jordan > Tuck Andress > Jerry Garcia > > -Julius > who gives an honorable mention to Fred Frith Is this the Frank Marino from the old Mahogany Rush group? Mike > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:41:47 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: 5 fave guitarists No order: 1. Joni Mitchell 2. Pat Metheny 3. Eric Johnson 4. William Ackerman 5. Jimi Hendrix Has changed since the 60's-80's. Steve Howe, Jimmy Page etc. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:27:25 -0500 From: BarBearUh Subject: fave guitars ani difranco joni adrian belew bruce cockburn daniel lanois hendrix clapton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:51:56 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Who's on The Simpsons? NJC <> And it looks like The Who have finally made it, Marcel...they're going to be guesting on The Simpsons, either Weds. or Sunday, I forget which. Check your local listings! Bob NP: JT, "Like Everyone She Knows" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:27:32 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Five Guitarists Here are my five top guitarists of the moment - in no particular order: Ry Cooder Richard Thompson Joni Mitchell Eric Clapton Jeff Pevar Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:18:59 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: five favorite guitarists 1. Pierre Bensusan 2. Michael Hedges 3. Ellen McIlwaine 4. Steve Howe 5. Tracy Moore (a great 12-string player from Seattle) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:44:21 -0800 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Five Favorite guitarists In no particular order: Charlie Christian Jimi Hendrix Robert Johnson Joni Mitchell Ernie Isley Brenda n.p. - CNN Headline News ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:00:31 EST From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Joan Baez--Gulf Winds NJC In a message dated 10/31/00 12:52:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, mark.travis@gte.net writes: << I don't think I've ever seen 'Gulf Winds' on cd and I think it's one of Joan's best. >> Mark, I think that Gulf Winds was released on CD here in the US over 10 years ago, but has been unavailable for many years. If my memory serves me correctly--and it might not--I believe that it was only in print on CD for a short period of time when CDs were first becoming popular. I am always looking for Gulf Winds on CD, as I didn't buy it when it was released. I agree, Gulf Winds is one of Joan's best (and the only, or one of the few, that is entirely self-penned). Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:41:08 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:34:45 +0800 (PHT) > From: Joseph Palis > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists > Reply-to: Joseph Palis > > not really a guitar person, but those who knocked me silly with their > virtuosity includes: > > 1) alex de grassi > 2) michael hedges > 3) william ackerman > 4) sara hickman > 5) eric tingstad So where do you hear these artists? On public radio? Do you listen to the syndicated show on the air called "Echoes"? I hear some of these people every night. I'm a huge fan of Will Ackerman. I like Michael alot too. A shame we'll never hear anything from him again. I have an Eric Tingstad CD. Don't know Sara Hickman. Mike > > > joseph > (a big windham hill fan since the early 80s, and an even bigger fan of > fred simon!) > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:42:39 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists > From: JRMCo1@aol.com > Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:37:04 EST > Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists > To: joni@smoe.org > Reply-to: JRMCo1@aol.com > Here's mine: > > Jimi Hendrix > Frank Marino > Stanley Jordan > Tuck Andress > Jerry Garcia > > -Julius > who gives an honorable mention to Fred Frith Is this the same Frank Marino that played with the Mahogany Rush group? Mike > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:33:19 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Fave guitarists (NJC) In no particular order: Steve Gillette Richard Thompson Jorma Kaukonen Doc Watson Jeff Beck - -- ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:59:14 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Fave guitarists joni - duh eric clapton - because he's a saint jennifer turner - she curls her lip when she bends with deep emotion richard thompson - he speaks two languages at the same time mark knopfler - laid back cool dude patrick np. meshell - faithful ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 00:16:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - October 31 1970: Matthews Southern Comfort tops the UK chart with their version of "Woodstock". 1976: Dressed as Art Nouveau, the character who graces the cover of Don Juan's Reckless Daughter - Joni hits the Halloween party scene! Check out a picture in this article: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/78crcs.cfm or here: http://www.jonimitchell.com/ArtNouveau76.html 1985: Joni appears on Good Morning America 1994: MacLean's updates Joni's life and quotes her as saying "While she expresses a deep fondness for Canada, Mitchell still bristles at how the country has treated her. "In the beginning, people here didn't recognize that I was good," she said during the MuchMusic special. "As soon as I crossed the border, they thought I was great." Read it here: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/941031m.cfm 1998: Two reviews of last night's performance are published: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981031os.cfm http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981031oc.cfm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:51:57 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Five Favorite guitarists Got to split the category a bit ... no particular order. Rhythm: Richard Thompson Keith Richards Joni Mitchell Johnny Marr Walter Becker Lead: Phil Manzanera David Gilmour Mark Knopfler Lindsey Buckingham Richard Thompson Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:53:53 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists (md) Threads are weird. I started this one and I dont know quite how. But since it has mutated into the Five Fave Guitarists I MUST jump in. 1) Les Paul: Invented the modern electric Guitar technology. leo fender simply took it from Where Les paul started it.Given a lab to experiment in by Gibson Corporation he proceeded to do extraordinary research and development that led to the development of the electric guitar and pickup we know and love today. He was the first known player to experiment with controlled use of feedback and distortion. created an aluminum guitar to achieve the perfect solid body only to find that the stage lights heated up the instrument and started to warp the sound. made the hit "How High the Moon" by extending a microphone out to his kitchen where his wife Mary Ford actually recorded the vocal tracks. recently played live with jeff beck and keith richards who both were "awed" by his ability in spite of his age. 2) Charlie Christian: An electric guitar in the Benny Goodman Orhchestra? Out of the 40 guitar stars interviewed by Guitar player magazine a full 35 of them credited Christian's records (and trying to play along with his notes) with being among their most important musical influences. Charlie died at age 27 (I believe) of Tuberculosis. He actually invented the elctric guitar by taking the singers vocal mic and shoving it into the interior of his acoustic guitar. His riffs sound easy to the ear but trying to copy them reveals their artistry and genius. 3) Django Reinhardt: Lost two fingers off his playing hand in a fire. A Gypsy by familial background. Literally played with three fingers and as such developed unique chords that no one else could play. His endless variations served to show the rest of history what was possible with the instrument. Along with Stephane Grapelli bridged jazz and rock and about all other styles while playing in the earlier part of the century in paris. 4) Jeff Beck: Truly one of (if not) the most creative player(s) ever. The ONLY british Guitar player unawed by Jimi hendrix when hendrix exploded on the British scene. Invented a great deal of the library of fingering and licks copied by virtually all the other great players in rock history. Took sustain and hammering of the fretboard to the ends of the envelope and then channelled all those intricate and unique sounds into true art form. jeff beck is the guy that all the other guitar players wish they could grow up to be. except... 1) Peter Townshend (my personal ultimate hero) who invented all the acrobatics and stage histrionics of modern rock. Even Jimi marveled at The Who to the extent where the famous light-the-guitar trick at Monterrey was, as Jimi put it (after they came on I HAD top do something or die). While Pete is today a fabulous player technically it was his invention of stage tricks and "air guitar" moves that solidified his place in rock history for all time. Only Rocker to write two Operas and a couple more mini-operas and one stage play. Lastly Pete was renown for giving little solliloquies before each song at their shows. Crediting old Brit players and songwriters. The bands nightly destruction of the entire instrument ensemble in the 1968 tour shows stands as the single most unique act in the history of Rock. 147 Gibson SGs destroyed in one tour. Most famous lyric " I hope I die before I get old" I was just informed by Bob Mueller that Ther Who are the weeks guests on The Simpsons. Now I know WHY Pete wrote that li ne. Marcel deste ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:07:23 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists Ry Cooder Joni Mitchell Glen Campbell Les Paul Jimi Hendrix Jerry np: Jeff Buckey - Mystery White Boy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:44:57 -0600 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Neck (NJC) Rosalita- Get another opinion honey, they don't call it practicing medicine for nothing. My pal had back and neck trouble and was told the same type of thing and he has no problems since he hooked up with someone who taught him how to heal himself. He hangs like a bat once a day for 15 minutes and does some other routines + eats right and quit smoking and drinking. He is older than me and looks and feels 15 years younger. I hope you don't have to have surgery and I will be sending out my prayers for you. Feel better. Paz NP-Tell Me Why-Neil Young ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:26:58 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists njc Yes. The one and only. - -Julius >> Here's mine: > > Jimi Hendrix > Frank Marino > Stanley Jordan > Tuck Andress > Jerry Garcia > > -Julius > who gives an honorable mention to Fred Frith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:45:18 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: costumes for tonight [vjc] Wally writes: << what are your costumes for this evening?>> I'm gonna be, like, Lenny Kravitz. You know, a hippy. I'm wearing a paisley shirt, and will be festooned with many strings of mardi gras beads, a floppy velvet hat, hip-hugger jeans, a bead & feather earring in one ear, and star-shaped rose colored glasses, and as much of an Afro as I can muster. I'll be wandering about San Francisco's Castro district tonight taking in the lunacy. This town takes Halloween pretty seriously. Never a dull moment today. - -Julius np: Michael Jackson, "Thriller" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:18:32 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Five Favorite guitarists-njc In a message dated 10/31/00 1:07:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, dgrowe227@yahoo.com writes: << Keith Richards >> a fine list roweman. i was very very close to putting keith on my list too. i just like his sound. but the girl who plays for natalie merchant won out because of the lip curl and the slow bends she does. and i also think lindsey can go both ways...rhythm and lead. see that...he's bi. patrick np. m. knopfler - sailing to philadelphia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:23:59 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists (md)-njc In a message dated 10/31/00 1:16:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, MDESTE1@aol.com writes: << But since it has mutated into the Five Fave Guitarists I MUST jump in. >> i think it morphed more than it mutated. come on md, you got to get with the new millenium speak. p np. meshell - my cd player is morphing and keeps skipping between knopfler and meshell. very frustrating. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:29:09 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: halloween songs (NJC) Besides Lou Reed's great "Halloween Parade" from his "New York" cd, I can't think of any songs about Halloween. Are there any? I know that there have been novelty songs like "Monster Mash" thoughout the years, but I can't think of any songs that mention the word Halloween. Kinda spooky, isn't it? --Bob NPIMH: The Smashing Pumpkins, what else? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:36:28 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: costumes for tonight njc In a message dated 10/31/00 2:05:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, JRMCo1@aol.com writes: << and as much of an Afro as I can muster. >> every year we go to a neighborhood miniture golf party. each neighbor builds a golf hole in their yard and everyone moves from house to house. last year i went as nancy lopez and used balloons with the stems strategically placed under my turtleneck. guys were actually looking at them and i felt like a slut. guys are such pigs. this year i'm going out as richard simmons. my son bought this really big red afro wig to be a dead soccer player. i was thinking of making a barbara streisand necklace to wear. running tights and tank top. maybe a rolled up pair of socks up front. at least most of the guys won't be bothering this year. guys are such pigs. patrick np. m.k. baloney again ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:02:10 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: halloween songs (NJC) Bob, who will dress as a smurf tonight writes : << Besides Lou Reed's great "Halloween Parade" from his "New York" cd, I can't think of any songs about Halloween. Are there any? >> Dave Mathews Band has a song called "Halloween" on their cd "Before These Crowded Streets". Jimmy, who will be going as Frank n Furter (Rocky Horror) tonight ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:21:29 US/Eastern From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists <> I just listened to and transferred his version of BSN to Covers, Volume 12, and it's a really nice take. Maybe some people think Glen borders on cheese but I've always liked his guitar playing, that crackly thing his voice does, his smarts regarding picking good songs to sing (lots of good Jimmy Webb stuff there, Kakki!). Volume 12 is shaping up really nicely, btw...lots of cool and uber-rare stuff...details to follow! Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "s-e-x-x-y, The Warren Rigg Microwave Mix" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:26:30 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: halloween songs (NJC) <> One of the many great bands that got lost in the dreck of music called the 80's was The Dream Syndicate. They put out an excellent and neglected LP called "The Days of Wine & Roses" and had a wonderful track called "Halloween". Then there's the Classics IV's "Spooky" which features the lyric "I'll propose on Halloween"... Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "Why Does The Sun Shine" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 22:52:31 +0000 From: Howard Subject: Re: Neil & Joni's (& Jimi's) Guitar playing patrick wrote: >i think the reason why >neil plays such simple leads is because he can't do anything else. but that >does'nt degrade him in my understanding. he has so many other gifts that are >unique to him. but he's not a lead player and nor is joni. It's certainly true that Joni is a rhythm player, a chordal player. But, to me at least, Neil Young is a great lead player as well as a great rhythm player. As a lead guitarists, he is one of my favourites - he is creative, passionate, just a wonderful player. Funnily enough, I hear a lot more of the "spirit of Hendrix" in his playing than in most others. He hasn't got the chops of Hendrix, but he has got the inspiration, the energy, the power, the expression. That's something that's pretty rare these days. ... and Joni definitely has plenty of inspiration, energy and expression in her playing too, it's just that it comes out in her chordal/rhythm style. I wouldn't like to say who I preferred as a guitarist from the three of them. Plenty of great music to be had from all of them! Howard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:58:35 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: costumes for tonight julius!!!! you ARE a man of courage!!!! wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: JRMCo1@aol.com [mailto:JRMCo1@aol.com] Enviado el: Martes, 31 de Octubre de 2000 03:45 p.m. Para: wallykai@fibertel.com.ar CC: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: costumes for tonight [vjc] I'll be wandering about San Francisco's Castro district tonight taking in the lunacy. This town takes Halloween pretty seriously. Never a dull moment today. - -Julius np: Michael Jackson, "Thriller" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:51:47 EST From: JoniMessages@aol.com Subject: BSN parody for election day This message came into JoniMitchell.com yesterday... I thought somebody might think it was a fun thing to do so I'm passing it along: - -------------------- Jim, You may have noticed that election day comes out on Joni Mitchell's birthday. Can you or your creative colleagues think of an approppriate song parody about the candidates to the tune of "Both sides Now", or another JM song (I just thought "Both Sides" lends itself best--e.g. "I've looked at Gore from both sides now, I really don't know Bush at all" etc.) I would greatly appreciate any help you can supply, and feel free to forward this message to anyone who you think might be able to help. There is an open mike night nearby that meets every Mon. night, so rather than just read some Joni Mitchell lyrics, I thought it would be kinda cool to perform this parody next week on the eve of election day and Joni's b'day (Obviously I'd be sure to credit the author, be it you or whoever). Dave - -------------------- If anybody's interested, send your parody to Dave at Desop18@aol.com. jj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:57:52 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Elvis's favorite Joni albums Did anyone read the new Vanity Fair magazine?Elvis Costello lists his favorite 500 albums.Included are 6 albums by Joni:"Blue","FTR","C&S",HOSL","Hejira" and "TTT".He also lists his favorite songs on each album. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:12:56 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Nature & church NJC "kerry" wrote: >>20 years ago, when I was in college, some friends and I took a road >>trip up to Lake Superior. It was a beautiful Sunday morning and as >>we stood there with the waves crashing to the shore I said, "We >>forgot to go to church today," and my friend said, "This IS church." >>I've believed that ever since. I have always felt more spiritual and >>alive in nature than in any church building. Amen. I subscribe to no religion other than wild nature; all the other religions and churches are illusion. My #1 "church" is Redwood National Park in far northern California. Those giant trees are living spirits, and with the cool grey fog drifting through the lush ferns and forests sloping down to the ocean ... this is all I need to feel godliness. I've been there many times; my wife and I honey mooned there and have been back several times for what I like to call "Jewish camping" ... you hike through the redwoods and the beach all day but then return to town for a nice restaurant meal and a hotel room for a warm shower and cozy bed. In particular, get thee to a place called Gold Bluffs Beach, a short drive from the main highway down a dirt road to the beach, and then a short drive on a gravel road parallel to the beach, hugging the huge gold bluffs, paying respects to the bemused herd of elk grazing a mere few feet from you (they are protected and therefore don't fear humans or cars) to the end of the road which is also the beginning of Fern Canyon, an incredible primordial canyon with a series of trails and various terrains. We once hiked through a dark, foggy redwood stand which led to a football field-sized open meadow, at the end of which stood a lone bull elk, with a huge rack, aloof and chewing. Another time we hiked along the dunes of the beach, and perched on top of a large driftwood stump to consider a small family of female elk and their calves nearby, with its bull patriarch standing guard not far off. After awhile, the bull became agitated, and we noticed that a challenging bull was approaching from the opposite direction. It was rutting season, which is definitely not a good time to be in between two competing bulls. Obviously, we got the hell out of there. Amazingly, Redwood National Park, because of its relatively remote location, is the least visited, least crowded of all the national parks in the contiguous 48 states. I highly recommend this sublime mecca ... it's my church, but all are welcome. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:23:43 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: halloween songs (NJC) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:29 PM Subject: halloween songs (NJC) > Besides Lou Reed's great "Halloween Parade" from his "New York" cd, I can't > think of any songs about Halloween. Are there any? I know that there have > been novelty songs like "Monster Mash" thoughout the years, but I can't think > of any songs that mention the word Halloween. > > Kinda spooky, isn't it? My friend who wrote "Happy F@#$ing Birthday", Mark Richard, also wrote a great song called "Halloween". I don't know the words but it's a great song. I'm hoping to go see him in Carolina this month. He's a fabulous songwriter and also makes beautiful instruments. In my song, "American Beauty", one of the verses is about jack'o'lanterns. "Lonely jack'o'lantern, Forgotten with the breaking of the day. Or did you just lose your way, Will you ever glow again?" Victor, dressing up as a vampire for the third time this week. NP: Neil Young Deep Forbidden Lake ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:22:37 -0800 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Five Fave Guitarist (NJC) Tough, of what? Have to go with Wally on number one. Steve Howe (emotional rollercoaster) Tim Reynolds (Good addition to DMB) Phil Keaggy Joni Denny Diaz (This one has held me for years) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:36:14 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: halloween songs (NJC) Offhand, I can think of the traditional "Tam Lin" as performed by Fairport Convention - "For tonight is Halloween, and the fairy folk ride..." There's also Richard Shindell's "Are You Happy Now." The gist of that song is that a girl moves out on a guy on Halloween, and cleans him out, even taking the candy meant for the trick or treaters. So the next morning the poor guy is all depressed, and there's toilet paper on the trees and shaving cream on the car from all the kids who tricked him. It's a cute little song. Richard Shindell is a cute little songwriter. At 02:29 PM 10/31/00 -0500, you wrote: >Besides Lou Reed's great "Halloween Parade" from his "New York" cd, I can't >think of any songs about Halloween. Are there any? I know that there have >been novelty songs like "Monster Mash" thoughout the years, but I can't think >of any songs that mention the word Halloween. > >Kinda spooky, isn't it? > > --Bob > >NPIMH: The Smashing Pumpkins, what else? Deb Messling messling@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~messling/ ~I like cats. They give the home a heartbeat. / Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:33:55 EST From: Fonimitchell@aol.com Subject: Five fave guitarists (NJC) Hi it's Clive from Foni Mitchell. How about these ? Andy Latimer (Camel) Michael Schenker (UFO) Alex Liefson (Rush) Eric Bloom (Blue Oyster Cult) Jan Akkerman (Focus) Dave Gilmour (Pink Floyd) Steve Hackett OK, it's seven! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:39:27 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: costumes for tonight njc Last year we attended a Halloween party with the theme of "come as an important person of the millennium." Someone showed up as Joni Mitchell. My sis sent me a picture of the two of us with the caption, "Finally - a picture of you with Joni Mitchell!" Deb Messling messling@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~messling/ ~I like cats. They give the home a heartbeat. / Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:44:36 -0500 From: "Brian Workman" Subject: Re: Five fave guitarists (NJC) Top 5: the late great Michael Hedges Doc Watson Norman Blake Neil Young James Marshall Hendrix Eclectic enough? Brian - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 6:33 PM Subject: Five fave guitarists (NJC) > Hi it's Clive from Foni Mitchell. > > How about these ? > > Andy Latimer (Camel) > Michael Schenker (UFO) > Alex Liefson (Rush) > Eric Bloom (Blue Oyster Cult) > Jan Akkerman (Focus) > Dave Gilmour (Pink Floyd) > Steve Hackett > > OK, it's seven! > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:52:19 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: halloween songs (NJC) although it doesn't actually mention halloween, carole king's ''the awful truth'' is a fun song for halloween. it's on her ''really rosie'' album: ''the awful truth concerning me the creature-feature mystery is simply this: in the worst way i wanna play mrs. dracula! the challenge is tough but i know i've got the stuff to be just spectacular can't you see it in lights: ROSIE REALLY MEETS DRACULA!!!!!'' wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Murphycopy@aol.com Enviado el: Martes, 31 de Octubre de 2000 04:29 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: halloween songs (NJC) Besides Lou Reed's great "Halloween Parade" from his "New York" cd, I can't think of any songs about Halloween. Are there any? I know that there have been novelty songs like "Monster Mash" thoughout the years, but I can't think of any songs that mention the word Halloween. Kinda spooky, isn't it? --Bob NPIMH: The Smashing Pumpkins, what else? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:10:07 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Back in 1974 (MD) MDESTE1@aol.com wrote: > I always think of the movie Monterrey Pop with Janis Joplin doing Ball & > Chain, and Otis Redding doing Try a Little Tenderness. And No Nukes with > Bruce doing Rosalita. But the Ultimate for me was The Who doing Summertime > Blues. marcel Marcel, you know that you mention "Monterey Pop" (that great 1969 movie of the 1967 event) and I will chime in... and the Who was great in the film, Otis was better, Ravi Shankar was better, and Janis was the best ever. But also, my friend, how long did you think that I would see a thread called "Back in 1974" before I said that the best event ever in 1974 was on 8 August at about 9 pm EDT: Nixon resigned. And the next day was almost as good: Nixon left the White House. Gees, I restrained for days from commenting on that but the thread finally got to me... (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:24:35 -0500 From: "Patricia O'Connor" Subject: Re: BSN parody for election day Jim wrote; > > You may have noticed that election day comes out on Joni Mitchell's birthday. > Can you or your creative colleagues think of an approppriate song parody > about the candidates to the tune of "Both sides Now", Well... here goes: Liars thieves and sycophants Indies, donkeys and elephants (Hope this one keeps it in his pants) Oh it's election day President, senator, and congressmen Referendums 1 through 10 Where have you gone Tom JeffersEn? On this election day I've held my nose and voted now Civic duty Yet still somehow I'm apathetic and cynicALL Won't stay up for returns This fall Albert Gore, George Double U I've made my choice I've said P.U. Oh man! I've stepped in dog-do Oh it's election day So we'll have a new President He'll be a mortal like Clark Kent Where have all the flowers went On this election day I've held my nose and voted now Civic duty But still somehow I'd rather write-in Joan Mitchall Cause this is her birthday Th-a-a-t's all It seems like that might be verses 1 & 3. Verse two eludes me. Happy Halloween y'all. Patricia O'Connor p.a.oconnor@att.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:06:46 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Awards NJC 2nd prize, costume, 5 and under category: Bradey Spitler-Shilling, a billy goat, grandson of Poppa (the Rev) Vince. (1st prize went to a cousin of Bradey, a butterfly, or a bee, I wasn't sure) 1st prize, costume, 6-10: Gage Shilling, a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle (Donatello, I think), grandson of Poppa (the Rev) Vince. IOn the 10 and up category, a cousin took a third, an we wuz robbed, Cameron's paper mache dinosaur was fantastic and the hobo set-up that won was a five-minute job at best. By my count, we had two actual grandfathers, one step-grandfather, two step grandmothers, one actual grandmother, girlfriend of a father, and sisters of a mother and of a father, and various cousins, at the awards show. I think had we not gotten prizes, we would have stomped the judges to little smudges on the pavement. Highlight: I had a glow light popsicle for Gage for Halloween, and that was his favorite Halloween treat (take that, all you other grandparents/step grandparents, I know what the kid really wants... no bragging here...) For those who missed it, makle plans to be here next year. . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:08:55 -0500 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: 5 fave guitarists Have been watching this thread closely, and some excellent choices by all. I'm almost embarrased to say that I know nothing 'bout Richard Thompson. Suggestions from anyone as where to begin? Joni is a given! 1. Pat Metheny 2. John Abercrombie 3. Birelli Lagrene- the only guitarist ever, who has been able to duplicate Django! Also a gypsy. 4. Tuck Andress 5. Ralph Towner And Jimi must also be a given Regards, Stephen in Vancouver NP: Ketil Bjornstad/David Darling- Upland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:25:45 +1300 From: "Hell" Subject: Shameless self-promotion - incredibly NJC! OK. Time for some shameless self-promotion. I've entered the website I designed for our cricket team in a local (ie. NZ)competition, and it relies on public votes to decide the winner. The prize is cash, which I'm desperately in need of, so I'm asking you guys to help me out! Think of it as helping the "get Hell to a Jonifest" fund! The website for the contest is: http://www.guesswhat.co.nz/competition.html and votes close on November 10th. Hey, they said "don't forget to ask your friends to vote", so that's what I'm doing! Thanks in advance! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:28:34 +1300 From: "Hell" Subject: Re: Nature & church NJC Kerry wrote: > Rose, > Thank you for sharing this quote. It really struck a chord with me. About > 20 years ago, when I was in college, some friends and I took a road trip up > to Lake Superior. It was a beautiful Sunday morning and as we stood there > with the waves crashing to the shore I said, "We forgot to go to church > today," and my friend said, "This IS church." I've believed that ever > since. I have always felt more spiritual and alive in nature than in any > church building. Which reminded me of a quote I've had on my wall at work for the last 10 years. Working in IT, I sometimes lose sight of the big picture, even though I've worked for "environmental" agencies! This helps keep things in perspective: "Increasingly we associate ourselves with our tools and our possessions, our science and our dreams. But we are inescapably still part of the natural world of plants and animals, of soils and water, a world which preceded us by billions of years and which will outlast our science and our species. National parks are the great cathedrals, galleries and museums of this natural world, as worthy of preservation as any edifice or achievement of our culture and civilisation." Andy Dennis - 1984 (NZ environmentalist/ecologist) Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:36:04 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Five Favorite guitarists-njc > and i also think lindsey can go both ways...rhythm and lead. see > that...he's bi. Oh God, I used to wish! ;-) Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:38:20 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: halloween songs (NJC) > Besides Lou Reed's great "Halloween Parade" from his "New York" cd, I can't > think of any songs about Halloween. Are there any? I know that there have > been novelty songs like "Monster Mash" thoughout the years, but I can't think > of any songs that mention the word Halloween. > > Kinda spooky, isn't it? > > --Bob > There's a Lambert Hendricks & Ross tune called 'Halloween Spooks.' There's also a song from the musical Applause called 'One Halloween' or something like that. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:38:43 +1300 From: "Hell" Subject: Re: Back in 1974 (MD) Kakki wrote: > I have to say how much I always appreciate your historical perspective. As > much as I enjoyed those early days, I was, as Steve Dulson said the other > day "a mere child" who of course, just gladly lapped it all up at the time, > but was too young in some respects to have the perspective of you and others > who were experiencing it from a longer view. I did have a slight panic > attack the other day when Lori wrote about the 70s being the decade when it > all really came to fruition. Yes, the 70s were happening big time, but to > me, the genesis of it all started from about '63 on and was so much more > exciting than what followed in the 70s. Lori, I hope your boss will > consider the 60s more - I felt a little like a victim of "revisionist > history" when I read about his book! > Lori - please don't think I'm singling you out - the same day you wrote I > was comparing notes with a friend at work about seeing "Almost Famous". > Because of his age, the apex for him was the 70s, but I gasped when he said > that all the great and improtant music happened then! As a complete outsider, ie. being born in 1966, and living on the other side of the world, I just wondered if maybe the differences between Kakki's experiences and others were/are a locational thing? I've always thought California was where the whole flower-power/music explosion happened, and it took a while to filter out to the rest of the country? I remember an interview with Michelle Phillips (Mamas and Papas) saying they were in New York after spending some time in the Caribbean, and Michelle begging John to take the group to California, because "that's where it's all happening". I know the folk music scene was big in New York, but isn't California where the whole electric thing started happening? I also seem to recall some interviews around the Woodstock time with people in New York who "didn't get" the whole West Coast thing? I'm probably wrong, but I just thought, "maybe Kakki and Lori are both right"? Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 02:06:22 -0500 From: Janet Hess Subject: Re: 5 fave guitarists Michael Hedges, bless him Pat Metheny Tuck Andress John Fahey Will Ackerman and that Joni Mitchell ain't bad, neither - -------------- You've got to shake your fists at lightning now You've got to roar like forest fire You've got to spread your light like blazes All across the sky Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #573 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?