From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #532 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Friday, October 6 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 532 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: That Song About the Midway ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: That Song About the Midway ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: That Song About the Midway ["Kakki" ] Re: The flicks NJC [Jason Maloney ] Re: Billy Elliot & Foreign Films (NJC) (md) ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: That Song About the Midway [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: film - need help remembering the title NJC [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: Billy Elliot & Foreign Films (NJC) (md) [Dottie Hinkel ] NJC Foreign films & misc. [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Crapola, NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Fw: That Song About the Midway ["Kakki" ] Ben Orr (njc) [evian ] crap songs again njc [evian ] Banquet--My Experience (VLJC) [Lindsay Moon ] Foreign Films (NJC) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Ben Orr (njc) [Murphycopy@aol.com] RE: film - need help remembering the title NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: last 5 CD's purchased/top 10 songs [Nancy ] Re: That Song About the Midway [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: That Song About the Midway and Croz ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:42:50 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: That Song About the Midway Nope, good guess but its not Neil. Kakki, when I posted this hint, I thought of you & thought I might have to disqualify you from guessing because you might really know this answer, given this hint. So here is hint #2--Kakki should know this answer, given one of her fairly recent publicized musical passions. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** - -----Original Message----- From: Kakki [mailto:KakkiB@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:40 PM To: Kate Bennett; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway O.K. Kate, this one has got me going since that was one of the first Joni songs I ever learned to play and I think it's still one of her best. Is it Neil Young? Kakki > I must think I have time on my hands to be posting so much. Maybe its a full > moon or something. Anyway, are there any other guesses as to who Joni wrote > TSATM about? > > No, its not Jimi. Do you want a hint? It is in the line, "Can you fly I > heard you did, can you fly. Like an eagle doing your hunting from the sky." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:42:52 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: That Song About the Midway nope, not Leonard but yes, I think that the midway is about the music business. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** - -----Original Message----- From: Phyliss Ward [mailto:pward@datacourse.com] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:36 PM To: Kakki Cc: Kate Bennett; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway For some reason, I have it in my head that it was about Leonard Cohen. It would make some sense if you think that the "midway" actually means the music biz Kakki wrote: > O.K. Kate, this one has got me going since that was one of the first Joni > songs I ever learned to play and I think it's still one of her best. Is it > Neil Young? > > Kakki > > > I must think I have time on my hands to be posting so much. Maybe its a > full > > moon or something. Anyway, are there any other guesses as to who Joni > wrote > > TSATM about? > > > > No, its not Jimi. Do you want a hint? It is in the line, "Can you fly I > > heard you did, can you fly. Like an eagle doing your hunting from the > sky." - -- Phyliss mailto:pward@datacourse.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:46:05 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway Oh wow! Could it be about Gene Clark, who (many stories recount) developed a fear of flying and when asked why he quit the Byrds said "to be a Byrd one must fly"? I was kind of disappointed that it wasn't about Jimi but if it is about Clark, the song will really mean a lot more to me. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 03:08:31 +0100 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: The flicks NJC Dottie Hinkel wrote: > > I agree with Jason...many if not most mainstream > American films follow an identical formula involving > generous portions of sex,violence, silly one-liners, > and the ubiquitous chase scene. Having said that, I can often enjoy these kind of movies. I try and see a variety of genres and styles...to keep my passion for cinema fresh and undiluted. If I kept viewing the same type of films all the time, I'd soon lose that. The best American films of recent times for me have been EDtv, Pleasantville, Being John Malkovich, The Matrix and Ride With The Devil. They highlight all that's so wonderful and heartening about modern cinema. Of course, only one of the above was a bona-fide box-office hit. > There are many compelling and original independent films made in this > country but, unless you live in a major metropolitan area, you'll > almost never see them on a big screen. This is a problem in the UK too....though we have multiplexes sprouting up all over the place, their range of films isn't as wide (or increased) as you might expect. Also, out-of-towners have little hope of seeing the less mainstream releases. Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:18:49 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Billy Elliot & Foreign Films (NJC) (md) Q. What is the > best foreign film or top 5 foreign films you have ever seen. Please explain > without divulging anything that might ruin it for the subsequent viewer. I can't say that I am a connoisseur of foreign films. As a matter of fact it wasn't so long ago that you would have had a hard time convincing me to see one. Partially thanks to my friend Melanie I have become more open to them in the past 7 or 8 years. I'm not sure that I can come up with 5 that really bowled me over but here goes. 1. Antonia's Line - a warm, whimsical and utterly human Dutch film about a woman who settles down in her home village in the Netherlands and establishes a matriarchal extended family. The characters are wonderfully eccentric and the film is life-affirming and poignant. 2. Central Station - Brazilian film about a woman who writes letters for illiterates in Rio's Central Station and how she becomes involved with a young boy in helping him find his father in a remote corner of Brazil. Fernanda Montenegro is a marvel as this rather hard-bitten woman who finds her better nature as the film unfolds. 3. Queen Margot - French-German-Italian adaptation of a somewhat obscure Alexandre Dumas novel. It is centered around the intrigues of the 16th century French court as Protestant Henry of Navarre weds the Roman Catholic Margot, daughter of Catherine de Medici, resulting in the St. Bartholomew's Day massacre which turns the streets of Paris into rivers of blood. Wonderful production values, great story, the beautiful Isabel Adjani in the title role and a great performance from Virna Lisi as the Machiavellian Catherine de Medici make this an engrossing, although bloody, film. 4. Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown - Pedro Almodovar in a light-hearted frame of mind. One of the funniest movies I've ever seen. Carmen Maura plays the emotionally unstable star of a soap opera. When she is jilted by her lover, she brews up a concoction in her blender that is half bloody Mary and half sleeping pills. It gets consumed but not by her and the resulting pandemonium is hilarious. Antonio Banderas has a part in this movie that is nothing like his hunk of the month image that he seems to have acquired in the US. 5. Never On Sunday - an old chestnut from the 60s that I saw for the first time a while back. Melina Mercouri is delightful as a high-spirited prostitute living in a Greek fishing village and Jules Dassin is the intellectual who tries to reform her and give her some culture. Melina's description of the plot of the Greek tragedy 'Medea' is wondrously funny. I have to admit that eking out five was a bit of an effort. I have never seen any of Kurosawa's movies and I would love to see 'Ran'. I also want to rent 'Les Enfant du Paradis' (Children of Paradise) someday. Another one I want to see before I die is the Russian version of 'War and Peace' that came out in 1968. More than 6 hours long but it's supposed to be the spectacle to end all spectacles and I love a good spectacle! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:24:45 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: film - need help remembering the title NJC All this talk of films brings up a memory of a film I think I only saw part of on tv probably about 5 years ago so it would have been older than that. Maybe there is a film slut here that can help me. I don't even know if it was a film or a made for tv movie but it seemed to have a high quality that made it a film. This film has been haunting me ever since I saw it & I can't remember the title (if I ever even knew it) & really want to see it again or see all of it. I really only have some vague memories, maybe not enough to get help but here goes-- The main character was an actress (well known I think but I can't recall who. Was she blond? Someone like Faye Dunaway but maybe not her?) who was in hiding or running away from someone (husband?) with her daughter. I think it was in Europe, I remember a big old many story building on a corner & they were in a suite there. There was some kind of intrigue & maybe a twist ending to it all. She turned the tables on the guy (husband?)in the end. What I remember haunting me about this film was the composition & the mood that was so artistically done. Is this enough to strike anyone's recollections???? ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:27:01 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: That Song About the Midway oh Kakki, you are getting warmer! ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** - -----Original Message----- From: Kakki [mailto:KakkiB@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:46 PM To: Kate Bennett; Phyliss Ward Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway Oh wow! Could it be about Gene Clark, who (many stories recount) developed a fear of flying and when asked why he quit the Byrds said "to be a Byrd one must fly"? I was kind of disappointed that it wasn't about Jimi but if it is about Clark, the song will really mean a lot more to me. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:31:14 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway In a message dated 10/5/00 10:29:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: << oh Kakki, you are getting warmer! ******************************************** Kate Bennett >> I'm more curious than who the song is about, Kate, how you can know with such certainty? Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:39:34 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: film - need help remembering the title NJC In a message dated 10/5/00 10:29:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: << The main character was an actress (well known I think but I can't recall who. Was she blond? Someone like Faye Dunaway but maybe not her?) who was in hiding or running away from someone (husband?) with her daughter. I think it was in Europe, I remember a big old many story building on a corner & they were in a suite there. There was some kind of intrigue & maybe a twist ending to it all. She turned the tables on the guy (h >> I think your thinking of "smilia's sense of snow".does that ring a bell for you? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:05:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Dottie Hinkel Subject: Re: Billy Elliot & Foreign Films (NJC) (md) "Central Station" and "Women On The Verge..." were wonderful. Almost anything by Ingmar Bergman should be seen -- granted, they're all bathed in Nordic melancholia but then so is alot of JM's music -- among them: "The Seventh Seal," "Wild Strawberries," "Through A Glass Darkly," "Persona," "The Silence," "Fanny & Alexander." INHO, avoid "Cries & Whispers;" it's a real wrist-slicer. One of my most favorite foreign flicks is "Wings Of Desire," which was more or less butchered in the American remake, "City Of Angels." Another good one is "The Vanishing," a French-Dutch suspense story that, too, was destroyed in the US remake by the same name. "While The Cat's Away," and "Tatie Danielle," are a couple of good French comedies. - --- Mark or Travis wrote: > Q. What is the > > best foreign film or top 5 foreign films you have > ever seen. Please > explain > > without divulging anything that might ruin it for > the subsequent > viewer. > > I can't say that I am a connoisseur of foreign > films. As a matter of > fact it wasn't so long ago that you would have had a > hard time > convincing me to see one. Partially thanks to my > friend Melanie I > have become more open to them in the past 7 or 8 > years. I'm not sure > that I can come up with 5 that really bowled me over > but here goes. > > 1. Antonia's Line - a warm, whimsical and utterly > human Dutch film > about a woman who settles down in her home village > in the Netherlands > and establishes a matriarchal extended family. The > characters are > wonderfully eccentric and the film is life-affirming > and poignant. > > 2. Central Station - Brazilian film about a woman > who writes letters > for illiterates in Rio's Central Station and how she > becomes involved > with a young boy in helping him find his father in a > remote corner of > Brazil. Fernanda Montenegro is a marvel as this > rather hard-bitten > woman who finds her better nature as the film > unfolds. > > 3. Queen Margot - French-German-Italian adaptation > of a somewhat > obscure Alexandre Dumas novel. It is centered > around the intrigues of > the 16th century French court as Protestant Henry of > Navarre weds the > Roman Catholic Margot, daughter of Catherine de > Medici, resulting in > the St. Bartholomew's Day massacre which turns the > streets of Paris > into rivers of blood. Wonderful production values, > great story, the > beautiful Isabel Adjani in the title role and a > great performance from > Virna Lisi as the Machiavellian Catherine de Medici > make this an > engrossing, although bloody, film. > > 4. Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown - Pedro > Almodovar in a > light-hearted frame of mind. One of the funniest > movies I've ever > seen. Carmen Maura plays the emotionally unstable > star of a soap > opera. When she is jilted by her lover, she brews > up a concoction in > her blender that is half bloody Mary and half > sleeping pills. It gets > consumed but not by her and the resulting > pandemonium is hilarious. > Antonio Banderas has a part in this movie that is > nothing like his > hunk of the month image that he seems to have > acquired in the US. > > 5. Never On Sunday - an old chestnut from the 60s > that I saw for the > first time a while back. Melina Mercouri is > delightful as a > high-spirited prostitute living in a Greek fishing > village and Jules > Dassin is the intellectual who tries to reform her > and give her some > culture. Melina's description of the plot of the > Greek tragedy > 'Medea' is wondrously funny. > > I have to admit that eking out five was a bit of an > effort. I have > never seen any of Kurosawa's movies and I would love > to see 'Ran'. I > also want to rent 'Les Enfant du Paradis' (Children > of Paradise) > someday. Another one I want to see before I die is > the Russian > version of 'War and Peace' that came out in 1968. > More than 6 hours > long but it's supposed to be the spectacle to end > all spectacles and I > love a good spectacle! > > Mark in Seattle > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:13:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Dottie Hinkel Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway it's not Dylan, is it? - --- IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/5/00 10:29:28 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, > kate@katebennett.com writes: > > << oh Kakki, you are getting warmer! > > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett > >> > I'm more curious than who the song is about, Kate, > how you can know with > such certainty? > > Paul I __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 23:16:59 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Foreign films & misc. Well, I'm having a hard time keeping up as my job is very hectic and my home computer is in the shop! :~( So if I don't respond quickly to something, it's not beccause I'm rude, I'm just a little bit limited. Bill, got the CD you sent me today, thanks... Ashara, got your cover too, thanks to you... Foreign films: Marcel, don't miss this French pair, "My Father's Glory" (see it first) & "My Mother's castle". Two of most beautiful films I've ever seen. And nobody's mentioned the films of Akira Kurosawa..."Ran", "Seven Samurai" are classics and ALL of his films that I have seen are excellent. Also the films of Mike Leigh, "Life Is Sweet" and "Secrets & Lies" are 2 good ones. American Cinema is alive & well, but it's just like the music biz...don't believe the hype, go for the lesser-knowns! Bob, borrowing his wife's laptop now that she's done with schoolwork. NP: The dishwasher ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 23:20:34 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Crapola, NJC Crap. At last, here's a thread that I, a middle American, can lend an expert opinion upon. Here's the crap that I've been enjoying this week: Buffy The Vampire Slayer- The TV show. I have finally surcummed to having TV. Chicago: "Feelin' Stronger Every Day" Gladys Knight and the Pips: "Midnight Train To Georgia" (The Indigo Girls do a really nice version of this.) As a critic, I guess I'm supposed to apologize in advance to anyone who reads this opinion and is "made" to feel stupid by the fact that I have expressed my opinion. (?) All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu np at full volume: "I KNOW THAT WE BOTH AGREE IT'S THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN TO YOU THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN TO ME, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH! FEELIN' STRONGER EVERYDAY" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:09:52 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Fw: That Song About the Midway > oh Kakki, you are getting warmer! Oh damn! ;-) It would have fit Clark who "packed it in" with the Byrds and the biz for a bit. Hmmm, Croz "packed it in" (was fired) with the Byrds, too, when he bucked them to run off and play some gigs with the Buffalo Springfield. After that bust-up he did go into hiding in a sense until he re-emerged with Nash and Stills to form CSN. The timing is right, too. This is definitely a new one, Kate - don't recall any "source" info about this song on the list before. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 22:12:01 -0600 From: evian Subject: Ben Orr (njc) > I was saddened to read on line > mail that Benjamin Orr had died of pancreatic cancer. Is this > confirmed? > WHAT?????? WHAT?????? OMG, I hope not!!!! "The Lace" was one of my favorite albums back in the day, and this is another one I keep looking for but am too cheap to bid on the cd on ebay -- "Stay the Night" and "Too Hot to Stop" are two of the best singles out of the late 80s. Did he really die? He was alive on New Years, because he was performing, at all places, at the casino in North Battleford, Sask. -- how the hell he ended up there, I don't know..... Evian, feeling really sad if it's true ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 22:14:15 -0600 From: evian Subject: crap songs again njc > I'm embarrassed to admit that I know these things but > can't seem to help sharing ... "Afternoon Delight" by > the Starland Vocal Band ... "Me So Horny" by 2 Live > Crew. > > Crap, fer sure. > > LOL, OMG, I love em both! I was chided at work the other day for actually knowing the words to "Afternoon Delight." Of course, I just sang louder! As for "Me So Horny", damn, that was a fun song! Evian, promising to stop posting about this memory lane crap stuff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:25:20 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Banquet--My Experience (VLJC) Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > One of my favorite Joni songs is "Banquet",the first song on FTR.The > song >really sais so much about life on earth in this day and age.Does anyone else >love this song? I meant to reply to this the day it appeared, and then thought against it, and then decided to ... Oh, the indecision! When I was a senior in high school in 1974 and about a year into my Joni insanity (which grows each day I'm happy to say) we had a class project that we would make a videotape of what America meant to us or some such thing. Not being able to think of anything original and feeling very self-conscious, I recited the lyrics to "Banquet." (Makes perfect sense, what America means to me from a Canadian's point of view ...) Afterwards, another classmate came up and said, "oh, I wish you'd told me you were going to do that. I'd have accompanied you on piano." I'm afraid I never would have been brave enough to sing it, but it was nice that someone knew of it. I can only hope that tape has been burned somewhere. Sheesh! You know I'd only share these kinds of things with you guys! Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:30:46 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Foreign Films (NJC) Let's see...foreign films I have enjoyed... City of Lost Children and Delicatessan(I love the beginning of COLC with the evil Santa Claus climbing down the chimney) The Horseman on the Roof (saw this mentioned in another post...great movie) All the Mornings of the World (yes I did name a song after this movie...very romantic story about a man who teaches the viel( a cello-like instrument with five strings) and his daughter who falls in love with one of his students) Reflecting Skin (great story about a little boy growing up who goes through alot of traumatic experiences but manages to survive and comes out alot stronger...beautiful ending) weirdest foreign film: Santa Sangre(about a young man who travels around in a circus side show, controlled by his mother who doesn't have any arms, because they were cut off, and makes him perform with her) there are others I've liked but I can't remember the titles... Victor NP:Neil Young After the Gold Rush ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:43:16 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Ben Orr (njc) From Salon.com: Benjamin Orr, bassist for The Cars, dead   - - - - - - - - - - - - - ASSOCIATED PRESS Oct. 5, 2000 | BOSTON -- Benjamin Orr, the bass player of the popular 1980s group The Cars, died Tuesday of pancreatic cancer. He was 53. Orr, born Benjamin Orzechowski in Cleveland, formed The Cars in Boston in 1976 with fellow Ohio native Ric Ocasek. Orr sang lead vocals on several of the band's hits, including "Drive" and "Just What I Needed." After the band dissolved in 1986, Orr recorded a solo album, "The Lace," which produced the hit, "Stay the Night." Recently, Orr had toured with the band Orr, as well as The Voices of Classic Rock and Atlanta-based group Big People. Orr remained active with the band and performed three shows last month in Alaska. Orr recently reunited with his former Cars mates for a documentary titled, "The Cars Live." Rhino Home Video plans to release the production in November with part of the proceeds going to the National Pancreas Foundation. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:05:12 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: film - need help remembering the title NJC no it was way before that movie- I saw it on tv around 95 which means it was a movie (if it was in theatres) before that- maybe it was even a movie made for tv... ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** - -----Original Message----- From: Relayer211@aol.com [mailto:Relayer211@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 7:40 PM To: kate@katebennett.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: film - need help remembering the title NJC In a message dated 10/5/00 10:29:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: << The main character was an actress (well known I think but I can't recall who. Was she blond? Someone like Faye Dunaway but maybe not her?) who was in hiding or running away from someone (husband?) with her daughter. I think it was in Europe, I remember a big old many story building on a corner & they were in a suite there. There was some kind of intrigue & maybe a twist ending to it all. She turned the tables on the guy (h >> I think your thinking of "smilia's sense of snow".does that ring a bell for you? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:05:10 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: That Song About the Midway yep, its Croz (according to him). Kinda cool when you consider all the bird stuff. Apparently either she or he was living in a trailer (on the camping grounds) too. Also "devil wearing wings" (he was a scoundrel as he freely admits, cheating with the women but he sang like an angel) and "do you tie them to your shoulder just to sing." Apparently the first time he heard it she sang it at a party, staring at him & giving him the angry eye as she sang. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** - -----Original Message----- From: Kakki [mailto:kakkib@att.net] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 7:36 PM To: Kate Bennett; Phyliss Ward Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway > oh Kakki, you are getting warmer! Oh damn! ;-) It would have fit Clark who "packed it in" with the Byrds and the biz for a bit. Hmmm, Croz "packed it in" (was fired) with the Byrds, too, when he bucked them to run off and play some gigs with the Buffalo Springfield. After that bust-up he did go into hiding in a sense until he re-emerged with Nash and Stills to form CSN. The timing is right, too. This is definitely a new one, Kate - don't recall any "source" info about this song on the list before. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 00:09:35 +0100 From: Nancy Subject: Re: last 5 CD's purchased/top 10 songs 5. Mary Chapin Carpenter - Hometown Girl 4. Mary Chapin Carpenter - Stones in the Road 3. Mary Chapin Carpenter - Come On Come On 2. Edwin McCain - Misguided Roses 1. Joni Mitchell - Hits 1. Cactus Tree 2. All I Want 3. Woman of Heart & Mind 4. A Case of You 5. I Don't Know Where I Stand 6. Help Me 7. Jericho 8. How Do You Stop 9. Two Grey Rooms 10. Woodstock - --Nancy/IA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:15:09 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway In a message dated 10/6/00 1:14:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: << Apparently either she or he was living in a trailer (on the camping grounds) too. Also "devil wearing wings" (he was a scoundrel as he freely admits, cheating with the women but he sang like an angel) and "do you tie them to your shoulder just to sing." Apparently >> "Apparently" to whom? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 23:12:50 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway and Croz > yep, its Croz (according to him). Kinda cool when you >consider all the bird stuff. Kate, that is very cool! And re-reading the lyrics it makes perfect sense if one knows his history at that time. It makes the song all the more brilliant. >" Apparently the first time he heard it she sang it at a party, >staring at him & giving him the angry eye as she sang. I can imagine. In the song she always did sound a bit sad and angry to me, too, with some hiss especially on the "pack it in, I heard ya did" - almost sarcastic. She really gives a tone that they guy is a scoundrel. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I love hearing these little tidbits revealed after all these years. But please let me know if you ever hear she did a song about Gene Clark or even McGuinn, too ;-D Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 23:29:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Dottie Hinkel Subject: Re: "Banquet" One of my favorites...She did a great hard-edged version of "Banquet" on the WTRF tour back in 83...the tone of which verged more blatantly on anger/outrage. She performs it on the "Refuge Of The Roads" video in which she added a new lyric..."stone by stone I built myself a place to hide from tax-deductible charities that give the rich man pride." - --- Heather wrote: > Yes! I agree with you that Joni gets so much into > one song. I also feel > this way about People's Party from C&S. Do you (or > does anyone) find that > Joni has a certain strain to her voice when she > sings Banquet? I find it > kind of fitting with the subject matter .... in a > frustrating way. > Thanks for bringing this up :-) > Heather - who is now getting back to writing about > Shiva, Vishnu and Kali > .... yikes! > > At 12:35 AM 10/5/00 -0400, Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > > > > One of my favorite Joni songs is "Banquet",the > first song on FTR.The > > song > >really sais so much about life on earth in this day > and age.Does anyone else > >love this song? > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #532 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?