From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #524 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Monday, October 2 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 524 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: "Songwriting and the Guitar" [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: NJC 5 most recent albums ["Hell" ] Re: Fred gig (NJC) ["Hell" ] Re: "Songwriting and the Guitar" NJC [JRMCo1@aol.com] Subject: "Songwriting and the Guitar" ["Kate Bennett" ] 5 recent purchases... ["Christopher J. Treacy" ] Re: white house on jmdl [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: NJC 5 most recent albums [Jason Maloney ] Re: jeff buckley did Joni! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: 5 recent purchases... [Jerry Notaro ] I Love the Colors of Fall (NJC) [rosemjoy@aol.com] Rickie Lee Jones's new cd (NJC) ["Lori R. Fye" ] Re: NJC 5 most recent albums [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] most recent purchases ["Stephen Epstein" ] Re: NJC 5 most recent albums [michael w yarbrough ] Re: 5 recent purchases... [Don Rowe ] Re: NJC 5 most recent albums [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: NJC 5 most recent albums [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Hearing Joni in the Store [TanyerSCO@aol.com] Re: 5 recent purchases... [Andrew Baio ] Most obscure Joni songs in public [Don Rowe ] car plates [gay reimers ] Re: Most obscure Joni songs in public [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: jeff buckley did Joni! [BarBearUh ] Somebody please tell me ... [Don Rowe ] Re: car plates [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: car plates [Don Rowe ] Re: NJC 5 most recent albums [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Somebody please tell me ... [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] recent buys (NJC) [BarBearUh ] Re: Somebody please tell me ... [Siresorrow@aol.com] jeff buckley [Jerry Notaro ] Re: NJC: Respect for Canada [Catherine McKay ] Re: Somebody please tell me ... [Don Rowe ] Re: Somebody please tell me ... [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Somebody please tell me ... [Don Rowe ] Traveling with Joni. ["Russell Bowden" ] I hope this is not a stupid question..... ["Signe Wiig Salvesen" > Songwriting and the Guitar, $14.95 - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:45:52 +1300 From: "Hell" Subject: Re: NJC 5 most recent albums Vince wrote: > We haven't done this one for a while so: > > what are your five most recent albums purchased? Being impoverished as usual, and having trouble finding enough money to pay the bills, let alone luxuries like music, I haven't bought much lately, but the one purchase I made recently, and which hasn't been far from the CD player since is John Lee Hooker - The Best of Friends. Some great duets with Bonnie Raitt, Santana, Eric Clapton, etc., etc. I also bought James Taylor's Mud Slide Slim & The Blue Horizon at the same time (on CD - already had it on vinyl). Actually, they weren't a "purchase" at all. I got them with a $30 music voucher I won on a local website for arthritis pain-relief! Before that was so long ago I can hardly remember, but I think it was Hootie and the Blowfish - Musical Chairs. Incidentally, on their website, their bass player (Dean Felber) names Jaco Pastorius as his favourite ever concert (Joni content?), and Darius Rucker (the lead singer) says Christchurch (NZ) is his favourite place visited! Guessing, I think Johnatha Brooke - Plumb was before that, and I found it second-hand for $5 (USD$2). Pretty good bargain! And I'm going to count the "voices" catalogue and poster in my most recent purchases, since they're Joni-related, and which were (finally) delivered on August 30th - the day I moved house! Hell P.S. My parents must have been celebrating my brother's birthday when I was conceived, since it's almost exactly 9 months before mine! Maybe it's not a coincidence since he would have been turning 5, and would be starting school the next day - no kids left at home (or so they thought)! ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:59:39 +1300 From: "Hell" Subject: Re: Fred gig (NJC) Kakki wrote: > > >P.S. Fred - why don't you come out and play the Jazz Bakery, sometime > too? There's a great jazz bar here too - The London Bar. Great music, and a great selection of beer. Why not hop across the Pacific some time! > NP: Winding down of Olympics on TV (what a bunch of incredible moments. My > high point - the improbable winning underdogs and Lasorda taking the U.S. > Baseball team to gold) NZ didn't do too well in the medal count - just four, compared to 97 from the US, but in terms of population (3.8 million) we didn't rate too badly! I believe (although I may be wrong) that we've still got the best ratio of medals per capita in the world! I must admit, I've been glued to the TV for the past 2 weeks, although it does help only having a one hour time difference. But for a sports-junkie like me, it's been heaven! And congratulations again to Australia for a great games - one of the best I can remember! Some interesting "political" choices in the closing ceremony, ie. Midnight Oil in their "sorry" outfits singing Beds are Burning, and Yothu Yindi with Treaty! Loved it! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 04:00:42 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: "Songwriting and the Guitar" NJC I said: <<...I guess they were getting this publication ready for release just as we were at the height of our recent "Best Winger/Songwriter" thread.>> Ooops...sorry. I lied. There's never been any such thread. But had there been, I should think "Debra" would hold her own. ;-) - -Julius, now qustioning the wisdom of his recent propensity to post, post-midnight. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 04:27:31 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: "Songwriting and the Guitar" Hi Garrett, check www.acouticguitar.com I think I saw something there by Sam Shaber. By the way Sam Shaber is one of those great Indiegrrls I was talking about! Garrett wrote: When i was in America this summer ( how many posts can i possibly start in this manner??) i had the absolute pleasure of seeing a young lady named Sam Shaber perform. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 04:37:39 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: SoCal gigs, Kate, Tom Rush, and Mingus (SJC) Just want to be sure anyone thinking of coming to the Indiegrrl show in Hollywood has the correct date. It is Tuesday, Oct 10 at Highland Grounds in Hollywood. Hopefully I didn't send the wrong date, sorry if I did. "Kakki" wrote: I'm not makring this NJC so that Phyliss and perhaps some others on the only joni list can see it and it's Joni-related, too. Congratulations to Kate Bennet for the Indiegrrl tour! I would love to make the Santa Barbara or Ventura dates but will have to see how my time goes. I plan to go to the Highland Grounds show in Hollywood on Oct. 12th and I hope some of the SoCal group will be able to come by. This is sure to be a great night of music. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 06:01:57 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Nice posts I should log-off and go to bed, but I'd just toss and turn if I didn't give appreciation for the thoughtful quality of so many of today's messages to the List. Andrew's "Significance of Centerpiece" post serves up ample food for thought. I follow what you're saying, and will have your observations in mind the next time I cue up HOSL. And Eric uncloaks to post nicely on hearing Joni in the store, a favorite jmdl theme. Sobering reminder that our wildwood flower waves ever more infrequently from the radio these days. But don't get me wrong, sometimes I'm happy. Welcome to the posting, Eric. Carry on. The trip to the San Diego Diltz exhibit post by Lindsay Moon was..."incendiary," to devilishly quote from "Almost Famous." I saw it tonight, Lindsay, and your reality points are well-taken. Kakki's follow-up was a key heads-up, as I'm penciling in Diltz's San Jose photography presentation on my calendar. Cool..thanks, K. A good coming week to you all. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 11:20:48 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: NJC 5 most recent albums Madonna-Music Carole King -Natural Woman(comp) Mike Oldfield-Ommadawn and Tubular Bells HDCD Carly Simon-Spolied Girl and Have You Seen Me Lately on Vynl. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:05:28 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: 5 recent purchases... Let's see now... 1.Madonna - Music 2.Terre Roche - The Sound of a Tree Falling 3.Rickie Lee Jones - It's Like This 4.Joan Osborne - Righteous Love 5.Dusty Springfield - Dusty in Memphis Enjoying ALL of them IMMENSELY. Runner up? No More Sad Refrains (The Anthology) - Sandy Denny Going back to bed now that the cats been fed, Chris. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:30:59 EDT From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: white house on jmdl bob, this was a beautiful post. thank you. patrick np. supertramp In a message dated 9/30/00 8:52:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: << I thought about Relayer's post, and the replies to Relayer's post all day yesterday, because of my own experiences, and it led me to "The Circle Game" and thinking about the mystical magical world as seen through the eyes of a youth, catching dragonflies in jars, and tearful at the falling of a star, and such, and then becoming an adult and seeing the dreams of youth losing grandeur coming true, and it reminded me once again what a brilliant, unimaginably good writer Joni is so as to be a touchstone for whatever happens to be on my mind! >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 12:41:32 +0100 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: NJC 5 most recent albums Dido - No Angel Richard Ashcroft - Alone With Everybody Toploader - Onka's Big Moka Robbie Williams - Sing When You're Winning The Corrs - In Blue Meanwhile, I have the new Radiohead, Mark Knopfler and Paul Simon albums arriving sometime this week. Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 07:56:04 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: jeff buckley did Joni! <> Well, Eric, I knew that he did it, but I'm looking for a copy of the show for the Covers Project. If you get a line on snagging a copy of the tape, let me know! Bob NP: Stones, "When The Whip Comes Down" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 08:33:30 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: 5 recent purchases... 1. Sing a Song for You: A Tributes to Tim Buckley 2. Nancy LaMott - Listen to My heart 3. Dar Williams - The Green World 4. Babs - Timeless 5. Chris Whitley - Perfect Day Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 06:13:06 -0700 (PDT) From: rosemjoy@aol.com Subject: I Love the Colors of Fall (NJC) - --140838023.970492386330.JavaMail.root@home1.photoisland.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello JMDLers and fellow shutter bugs, Yesterday I went to Lahaska, PA. Peddlers Village, an 18th-century countryside complex, features over 70 shops, eight restaurants, a 66-room inn, landscaped gardens and year-round festivals and craft competitions. It's a beautiful place to shop. It's better than the shopping malls and parking lots. They also had a dog show going on. I took some photos that I'd like to share with you. I love the ones of the pumpkins, mums and gourds. The colors are magnificent. Annually they hold a scarecrow exhibit/contest that the locals really get into to. The creativity is enormous. Anyway I hope you enjoy. Don't forget to run the slideshow. Oh, and sign my guestbook. Best regards, Rose in NJ Please come see my new photos on PhotoIsland.com! To get there, simply click the address below and enter your guest password: harvest http://www.photoisland.com/servlet/GuestLogin?USERNAME=rosejoy47 If that doesn't work, go to www.photoisland.com, and log in to my albums with the following information: Log-in ID: rosejoy47 Guest Password: harvest _________________________________________________________________ See you @ PhotoIsland! - --140838023.970492386330.JavaMail.root@home1.photoisland.com-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 06:20:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Rickie Lee Jones's new cd (NJC) Kakki wrote: > NP: Rickie Lee Jones - Low Spark of High=Heeled > Boys (this new album is definitely an acquired taste > but one I took to surprisingly quick and now have on > fourth repeat ;-) Someone at work bought RLJ's new cd for me as a "get well" present for my recent home recovery from minor surgery. I took to it immediately and play it often. And I hesitate to admit this heresy, but I might like RLJ's version of "Trouble Man" better than Joni's ... Lori, ducking in DC NP: "In France They Kiss on Main Street" on WXPN, over the internet -- what a wonderful treat!!! (And how cosmic!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 09:21:19 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC 5 most recent albums <> I bought SIX the last time out, most of which I've already discussed here: 1. Peter Case, (forget the title but I like it a lot) 2. David Wilcox, "What You Whispered" 3. Tuck & Patti, "taking the long way home" 4. Rickie Lee Jones' latest (LOVE that duet w/Joe Jackson on "One Hand, One Heart"!) 5. EmmyLou Harris, "Red Dirt Girl" 6. Joan Osbourne, "Righteous Love" (Thanks Garrett for the Joan info! I'm always proud to wear my ignorance on my sleeve...;~D) Next purchase: New De La Soul New Fred Simon, which I'll probably have to order Joe Jackson, "Beat Crazy" or "Big World" if I can find them New Green Day Rolling Stones, "Exile On Main St." (don't have on disc) Bob NP: Stones, "Shattered" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:03:47 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: most recent purchases - ---------------------- Forwarded by Stephen Epstein/Agmont on 10/02/2000 06:48 AM --------------------------- Stephen Epstein 10/02/2000 07:02 AM To: jonie@smoe.org cc: Subject: most recent purchases Dar Williams- The Green World Rickie Lee Jones- It's LIke This EmmyLou Harris- Red Dirt Girl Charlie Haden- The Art of Song Jimmy Scott- Mood Indigo Regards, Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:07:54 -0500 (CDT) From: michael w yarbrough Subject: Re: NJC 5 most recent albums I did two shopping trips of a few records each, so I must include more than five: Common, _Like Water for Chocolate_ Prince, _For You_ Prince, _Controversy_ Replacements, _Pleased to Meet Me_ Madonna, _Music_ Joni, _Hejira_ (replacing the copy lost in the breakup now so long ago) Prince, _Parade_ Me'Shell NdegeOcello, _Plantation Lullabies_ (ditto from _Hejira_) Discerning JMDLers will notice that all but Common were released under a Warner Group label, as I was taking advantage of Tower's recent $7.99 sale on many of their albums. A great way to fill out collections of favorite artists! I now lack only _Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic_ among Prince's records... - --Michael NP: _Pleased to Meet Me_ - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Sometimes I contemplate moving to a warmer place But then the lake and skyline give me a warm embrace." - --Common, "Reminding Me (Of Sef)" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:06:48 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: 100 best Olympic Moments (njc) From WWW.slam.com - Canada's internet sports center Monday, October 2, 2000 100 moments from Sydney The flame has been extinguished and the flag folded up, but the memories of the XXVII Olympiad will live on. Here is a completely subjective list of 100 heroes, zeroes, highs, lows, winners, losers, touching moments, good lines, bad actors, anecdotes and any other stuff that was left over after three weeks to pad out this stupid list... 1. Thorpedo. 2. Bondi Beach's dress code. 3. Simon Whitfield's smile. 4. Waneek Horn-Miller's pride. 5. Anne Montminy's giggle. 6. Shredded bathing suits in waterpolo. 7. "LOOK RIGHT" painted on the street at intersections. 8. Still not knowing which way to look when crossing the street. 9. Danish rowers. 10. Seeing the Olympic rings lit up on the Sydney Harbour Bridge. 11. The lights playing on the roof of the Sydney Opera House. 12. An Australian newspaper spelling Diane Jones-Konihowski as Dianne Smith-Honikowski. 13. Eric Moussambani's solo swim in the 100m heats at the International Aquatic Centre. From Equatorial Guinea, he gamely thrashed about while the crowd cheered him on. 14. Spelling Pieter van den Hoogenband's name. 15. Pronouncing Pieter van den Hoogenband's name. 16. A cellphone going off and 25 people all digging into their pockets to see if it's their's. 17. Mobile phone rings. We used to get all our classical music training from Bugs Bunny. Now it comes from the rings on cellphones. 18. Divers protecting the athletes from sharks in Farm Cove during the triathlon swims. 19. Snakes on the mountain bike course. 20. A spider in the press centre at the pool. A big spider. 21. Scalpers, who struggled to unload their tickets. A $355 ticket for the men's 10m diving final could be had for $70. 22. Canada going four days into the Games without a drug controversy - a new record. 23. The job done by Canadian waterpolo goaltender Josee Marsolais, the Patrick Roy of the waves. 24. Victoria Bitter beer. 25. Spending three weeks in a country and still not being able to recognize the denomination of coins (at least there are no pennies). 26. Derek Porter's tears. The Canadian sculler apologized for not winning a medal. He needn't have. 27. The foghorn from the Senobe Canoe Club spurring Echo Lake, N.S.'s Steve Giles to a bronze medal. 28. The follicly resplendent Romanian's women's eight rowing team which prompted one journo to remark: "Good to see they've got the playoff beards going." 29. The Dream. Hosted by Roy and H.G., the irreverent late-night show became must-see TV at the Games. 30."Flat bag." Just one of Roy and H.G.'s expressions for a male gymnast doing the splits. 31. "Hello, boys." Roy and H.G.'s term for a male gymnast spinning on his back while doing the splits. 32. How, according to Roy and H.G., every athlete from a former Eastern bloc country was a carpet or furniture salesman. 33. "Tool tugging," Roy and H.G.'s term for what happens underwater in the very physical men's waterpolo games. 34. Fatso, the Fat-Arsed Wombat. The mascot for the TV show The Dream became the cult hero of the Games and was fetching bids of more than $85,000 in an internet auction. 35. Any of the heavyweight weightlifters, who looked like Fatso. 36. Marion Jones, who had her run at five gold medals halted after two. 37. C.J. Hunter, Jones' husband, who had his credibility halted after one newspaper article accused him of flunking a drug test. 38. The awkward minutes when the Olympic cauldron was halted on its climb up a waterfall because of the failure of a "10-cent gizmo." 39. Australian sprinter Cathy Freeman lighting the torch. 40. Cathy Freeman lighting up Stadium Australia with her win in the 400m. 41. The Hockeyroos, the Australian women's field hockey team which was the female version of The Dream Team. 42. The wackiest auction items: Chocolate moulds of the hands and feet of Olympic athletes. 43. A marathoner complaining about all the partying and sex in the village which was making it hard for him to prepare for his event, always held on the last day of the Games. Said the village mayor: "There is not a lot of evidence of open bonkage that I can see." 44. The unluckiest crook at the Games. He stole the accreditation of a gymnast and then used it to go to a basketball game. He wound up sitting beside the athlete whose pass he had stolen and was caught. 45. Aussie long jumper Jumpin' Jai Taurima who knew it was time to stop celebrating his silver medal in the pub next to the stadium when the plastic cup holding one of many bourbon and cokes fell out of his hand at 5 a.m. 46. The most dedicated volunteer. Kenneth Palmer, a host driver for the Brazilian team, was buried in his volunteer uniform when cancer claimed him during the Games. 47. People with nothing better to do. Shoppers lined for up to two hours just to get into the Olympic Super Store in the Olympic Park. 48. A busy signal. There were reports Bulgarian kayakers had tested positive for drugs during the summer, but officials couldn't act because the telephones for the Bulgarian anti-doping commission were always busy. 49. The contrast of the gold medal-winning Canadian men's 4x100 relay team of 1996 and the shambles in which the team found itself this time around. 50. The Oarsome Foursome. Australia's coxless fours have a great nickname. 51. The American 4x100 relay team posing and flexing after their win and doing nothing to endear Americans to the rest of the world. 52. More rude behaviour: Italian waterpolo players damaged pool-side furniture after a quarterfinal loss to Hungary. Unlike certain U.S. hockey players, the furniture smashers were caught. 53. Chinese diver Tian Liang knocking off the first 100-point plus dive in Olympic history, a back 3-1/2 somersault. 54. British oarsman Steve Redgrave winning gold in five straight Olympics. 55. German kayaker Birgit Fischer winning her sixth gold medal at her fifth Olympic Games. The 38-year-old mother of two might have had gold in six straight games but for the East German boycott of the 1984 Games in Los Angeles. 56. Officials at the gymnastics setting the vault five centimetres too low, sending a number of competitors to nasty spills. Sorry, they said. 57. Athletes without their clothes on. You couldn't swing a dead kangaroo without seeing Australian polevaulter Tatiana Grigorieva without her duds on. She's got a nude calender coming out. Talk about setting the bar higher. 58. Lost in translation. "Cross your fingers" became "hold your thumbs" when International Canoe Federation president Ulrich Feldhoff was trying to get the racing started Sunday. 59. Lost in Translation II: "Play ball" became "Prepare yourself for the commencement of the match." 60. The pole vaulter who kind of, y'know, nicked himself on the top of his pole when he started falling on the other side of the bar. 61. Blue Rodeo performing at The Moose Lodge, the "Canadian" bar in Darling Harbour. 62. Blue Rodeo having to stop performing at The Moose Lodge while the crowd, the majority of which was Aussie, sang "Waltzing Matilida" after Australia won a cycling gold on television. 63. Good little meat pies. 64. Big, bad hot dogs. 65. Breakaway chocolate bars. The staple of one sportswriter's diet. 66. New sports that being with "T." They're good for Canada. Four of our 14 medals came in the new sports triathlon, trampoline and taekwondo. Tennis, too, which is relatively new. Now if we can just get tiddleywinks or tapdancing into the Games. 67. Volunteer uniforms. Talk was one volunteer turned down $5,000 for his clothes. If you had seen what these outfits look like, you'd know where the expression a "a fool and his money are soon parted comes from." 68. A Fool, Part II: The asking price for one of the shoes worn by 100m champ Maurice Green: $100,000. 69. NBC's Olympic ratings disaster. Good news for Toronto's bid. If the network that paid $3.2 billion US for the Games through 2008 has anything to say about it, the 2008 Games won't be in China's time zone. 70. A great line about NBC's tape delayed coverage. David Letterman said he tuned in and "Jesse Owens was pissing off Hitler." 71. Boomerang shopping. 72. The face of Australian race walker Jane Saville after she was disqualified 150m from a gold medal. 73. The face of French sprinter Marie-Jose Perec avoiding a showdown with Freeman as she bolted Sydney claiming she was harrassed. 74. Perec's mistake. Turns out the media she thought was harrassing her outside her digs were at a bus stop for a media shuttle. 75. "Madamoiselle La Chicken," the headline in Sydney's Daily Telegraph the day after Perec left. 76. Bulgarians. The weightlifter who lost his silver medal because of a positive drug test smoked a cigarette outside a McDonald's while they gave his medal to a Chinese athlete 150 metres away. 77. Moths attracted to the lights of Stadium Australia. Bug zappers would have overheated. 78. The heart of the Canadian men's basketball team. 79. One Sydney paper's prediction of 99 medals for Australia. 80. They didn't miss it by too much. The Aussies had 58. 81. Donovan Bailey's cold. 82. Bruny Surin's hamstring. 83. Glenroy Gilbert's frustration over those two teammates' indifference to the 4x100 relay team. 84. Daniel Nestor, the worst guest around. He upset Aussie Pat Rafter in singles. Then, with partner Stephane Lareau, denied The Woodies doubles gold in their swan song in front of their home crowd. 85. Maxime Boilard's finishing kick to take fourth in the men's C-1 500m. 86. The medal-winning cyclist who was caught, um, celebrating, with a young lady in a dark recess outside the stadium an hour later. 87. Being in a country where the Canadian dollar is worth more than their's. 88. American infielder Brent Abernathy. He won gold before the games started, picking up $125,000 in a poker game at a casino near their Gold Coast training site. That's about $8.50 US. 89. Field hockey. Why don't they just get longer sticks? 90. "Lots of ore, but no gold." Headline in the Daily Telegraph on Aussie rowers. 91. Police cars and taxis, which looked the same. 92. Sebastian Coe. The former sprinter threw his bags in the backseat of a taxi and gave his hotel name. The guy in the front seat turned around and said: "you realize this is a police car." They took him to his hotel. 93. Aussie swimming hero Ian Thorpe being refused access to the athletes village because someone had forged his accreditation so his pass had been canceled. He showed his two gold medals and was allowed in. 94. The two Koreas marching into the stadium together for the Opening Ceremonies. 95. Park to Kim to Park...The Aussie baseball team got a scouting report on the South Koreans and were told to watch out for these two guys Park and Kim. Trouble is there were five Parks and four Kims on the roster. 96. More Korean stuff: a media guide, usually over the top in praise, had this say about a baseball coach: "His current team has the worst record in the league and he is somewhat of a surprise choice to the roster." 97. Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oy, Oy, Oy. It didn't take too long for that chant to become a pain. 98. The "cossies" (bathings suits in Aussie lingo) at beach volleyball. 99. The chant at beach volleyball: "Cossie, cossie, cossie, off, off, off! 100. Trying kangaroo which prompted one scribe to say, "Skippy is much better as a peanut butter than a main course." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:14:17 -0500 (CDT) From: michael w yarbrough Subject: Re: NJC 5 most recent albums On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > Next purchase: > > New De La Soul > New Fred Simon, which I'll probably have to order > Joe Jackson, "Beat Crazy" or "Big World" if I can find them > New Green Day > Rolling Stones, "Exile On Main St." (don't have on disc) Um, CLEARLY, Bob, you forgot to add Radiohead, _Kid A_, to be released tomorrow. I can't wait! All this new music all at once after such a drought--I hope I can keep it all straight in my head... - --Michael NPIMH: De La Soul, "Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 10:16:13 -0400 From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Re: 5 recent purchases... Madonna - Music Bjork - Selmasongs Jimmy Sommerville - Root Beer Liza Minelli - Results Creatures - Prettiest Thing e.p. Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: 5 recent purchases... 1. Mark Knopfler -- "sailing to philadelphia" 2. Jude Cole -- "Falling Home" 3. Don Henley -- "Inside Job" 4. Maxell CDR74 -- Used to burn the songs from the TNT Tribute show (okay, so it took me a while!) 5. Farewell to Juliet -- "Grace and Dire Circumstances" Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:45:49 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC 5 most recent albums Billie Meyers "Vertigo" Madonna "Music" Sugarloaf "Sugarloaf-Spaceship Earth" Meatloaf "Bat out of Hell" jmdler Bryan Thomas "Radio Plastic Jennifer" Jimmy NP: Sugarloaf "Greeneyed Lady"........oh the memories ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 10:46:22 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC 5 most recent albums <> Thanks, Michael, I KNEW there was an obvious one out there, but I couldn't put my finger on it! I was thinking about that new Radiohead last night as I was cleaning the bathroom with "The Bends" cranked way up! Although from what in read in RS and here, it's a departure for them... And I saw your Replacements pick up, there's an Australian 'Mats Tribute CD out there that I almost bought last time, but it's a $22 import so I backed off, but I may succumb next time. Then again, my son goes to the orthodontist Weds. so I may wind up broke as a convict! :~( Bob NP: Stones, "Sister Morphine" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:20:09 EDT From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Re: Hearing Joni in the Store Hey Eric! I am also a list-er in her twenties and immediately identified with you in terms of hearing Joni on the radio or in a store. It's so funny because it made me jump for joy inside when it happened. I was in Pathmark (which is a grocery store here in NYC) of all places and I heard Car on the Hill. Two weeks later I heard Conversation and Circle Game in the same trip. Who knew Pathmark had such good taste? I was expecting everyone in the store to stop and say, "Wow! They're playing Joni!" and start singing along while they shopped. But of course, I was the only I could see doing that. Had to share too! : ) tanya in NYC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 08:34:23 -0700 From: Andrew Baio Subject: Re: 5 recent purchases... 1. The Allman Brothers Band - Eat a Peach (1972) 2. Gomez - Abandoned Shopping Trolley Hotline (2000) 3. Ugly Duckling - Journey To Anywhere (2000) 4. Friends of Dean Martinez - A Place In The Sun (2000) 5. Medeski, Martin and Wood - Tonic (2000) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:37:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Most obscure Joni songs in public I too, hear a lot of Joni in my local grocery store. A tune every other week or so. Of course, it's usually one of the 'hits' ... but so help me, this has got to be the MOST obscure cut I've heard playing in a public place. In this same grocery store, I'm stopped dead in my tracks in amazement to hear: "Edith and the Kingpin" -- no kidding! Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:56:49 -0700 (PDT) From: gay reimers Subject: car plates I have Hejira 1 or 1 Hejira (can't remember which.. haven't had morning coffee yet!) on my 1979 Firebird. It was the finishing touch when I finished rebuilding my 'bird. It's one of my favorite features on my car. Loved driving it to Joni's BSN concert at Concord in this year. Now I'm attempting to figure out what to put on my jeep!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:12:29 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Most obscure Joni songs in public In a message dated 10/2/00 11:41:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dgrowe227@yahoo.com writes: << . but so help me, this has got to be the MOST obscure cut I've heard playing in a public place. In this same grocery store, I'm stopped dead in my tracks in amazement to hear: "Edith and the Kingpin" -- no kidding! Don Rowe >> Heard it in a Publix just a couple weeks ago, while shopping with my son, who doesn't mind listening to Joni as long as I don't sing along. ;>) Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 12:18:41 -0400 From: BarBearUh Subject: Re: jeff buckley did Joni! > Might be old news but heard a tape of Jeff Buckley playing late on New > Years Eve 12/31/95 in New York and on it he is noodling > through People's Parties! So glad to hear one of my faves playing my > all-time fave even if its not a classic. > > Eric this is not old news to me! did he actually sing it or play it on guitar? i'd love to get a copy of this. jeff's covers were often amazing - i love his version of cohen's "hallelujah" and van's "the way young lovers do" barbara np: bragg & wilco, mermaid avenue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:25:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Somebody please tell me ... Just what it is that everyone's so in love with about Madonna's latest album? Color me in shades of right angles if you like, but to my ear, with the exception of one track, "Music" should have more properly been titled "A Series of Annoying Noises." Am I the only one who thinks the arrangements are the worst kind of gratuitously ticky-bleepy-poppy electronica cliche? Am I the only one who thinks there should be an international ban on the manufacture and sale of vocorders? And those lyrics (at least those you can hear buried under layers of "oopy-yoop-yoop-pekow" synthesis) are just banal. No wonder Maddy decided not to print them in the liner notes. And please, no doctoral theses on the "musical conflation of the signifier" ... or any such similar theoretical double-talk. Just let me know what it is that makes you think, when you come home from a day's work, "Yeah, let's put THAT on." And now that I hear the sounds of nuclear-powered welding torches firing up out there in joniland, I'll just slip into something a little more ... flame retardant. Don't worry kids, I'm STILL a big Madonna fan! :-) Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:48:09 EDT From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC 5 most recent albums 5. Bruce - The Wild, The Innocent, and The E Street Shuffle - got nostalgic last week after that thread that surfaced 4th of July, Asbury Park. 4. Joni BSN - Sister's 41'st birthday this week..also got a card with three nuns dancing in the ocean and wrote in....happy f-ing birthday. 3. Joan Osborne - Righteous Love - liked her better as a blonde 2. Mark Knopfler - Sailing to Philadelphia - Rowe is rarely Rong 1. Pearl Jam - Live Boot from Spodek Poland - The only one of the 25 with Release on it, and one of the few with out no Even Flow. That song gives me a headache. patrick np. knopf man - baloney again ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 13:26:23 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Somebody please tell me ... <> OK Don, just keep this thought in mind the next time you have to leap to DED's defense! ;~) Bob NP: Stones, "How Can I Stop" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 14:04:15 -0400 From: BarBearUh Subject: recent buys (NJC) this is what i ordered yesterday... Jane Siberry: Hush Air: Virgin Suicides Youssou N'dour: Joko Rickie Lee Jones: It's Like This Van Morrison: Too Long In Exile Taj Mahal/Diabate: Kulanjan Radiohead: Kid A Emmylou Harris: Red Dirt Girl barbara np: corey harris, greens from the garden ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:01:51 EDT From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Somebody please tell me ... In a message dated 10/2/00 1:33:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: << OK Don, just keep this thought in mind the next time you have to leap to DED's defense! ;~) >> well......i forgot....rowe was ded rong about that one. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 14:08:35 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: jeff buckley MusicIsSpecial wrote: > Might be old news but heard a tape of Jeff Buckley playing late on New Years Eve 12/31/95 in New York and on it he is noodling > through People's Parties! So glad to hear one of my faves playing my all-time fave even if its not a classic. Must be a great tape. He's one of my favorites. First he does Edith Piaf, then The Man Who Got Away, now Joni! I sure hope you have Live In Chicago. I have it on DVD and watch it over and over. Jerry np: Oscar Levant - Rhapsody In Blue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:10:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC: Respect for Canada - --- Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > My respect goes out to Canada today as they mourn > the passing of Pierre > Trudeau. He seemed like a good guy. > All the best, > Jim L'Hommedieu > A lot of people I know have hated Pierre Trudeau, but I always had a lot of admiration for him. You always knew where he stood. He was part of my growing up - to me, he was like Canada's JFK. I, for one, will miss him - they don't make 'em like that anymore. Ironically, his birthday was close to my Dad's (Oct 18 or 19, 1919 for Trudeau; Oct 3, 1919 for my Dad), and they both died this year, plus my Dad was a big fan of his too. So I'm doubly sad - it's the end of an era. _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:13:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Somebody please tell me ... > well......i forgot....rowe was ded rong about that one. Oh you know, I 'spose I had to expect a little of this. And I can only say that the keyboards serve the the will of songs on DED -- on "Music", the songs are little more than a convenient excuse for the producer to use that neat-o "Galactic Portamento" patch that came on the synth's RAM expansion module! Say what you will about DED, the production isn't a graduate of the school of "Gee, what's this thing do?" ;-) Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:23:22 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Somebody please tell me ... In a message dated 10/2/00 2:18:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dgrowe227@yahoo.com writes: << And I can only say that the keyboards serve the the will of songs on DED -- on "Music", the songs are little more than a convenient excuse for the producer to use that neat-o "Galactic Portamento" patch that came on the synth's RAM expansion module! Say what you will about DED, the production isn't a graduate of the school of "Gee, what's this thing do?" ;-) Don Rowe >> In YOUR opinion. To some of us who, shall we say, like DED least among Joni's albums, it seems WAYYY overproduced (which usually means there's a lot of "Gee, what's this thing do") and the songs have not stood the test of time as well as most of her others. When I read your post, it seemed to me that you of all people would not be one to criticize an album with a different or unusual sound. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:32:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Somebody please tell me ... > When I read your post, it seemed to me that you of > all people would not be > one to criticize an album with a different or > unusual sound. > Ah, but that's my point. "Music" does not, to my ear, have a sound any different from, or more unusual than, anything else in the electronica genre. The sound effect choices are pedestrian, predictable, and overbearing, since they are universally mixed way too "hot". So I guess what I'm saying is, "Music" isn't just a bad Madonna album -- it's a bad electronica album on top of it. The Joni purists hate DED ... the Yes purists hate 90215 ... the Richard Thompson purists hate the Mitchell Froom produced albums, and I imagine the electronica purists don't much like "Music." And neither do I, that's all. Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 11:58:20 PDT From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: Traveling with Joni. Hey Gang, Back from the dead (almost literally) It has been many months since I posted. I love the traveling with Joni thread that has been happening. In 1985, I was flying from Portland, ME to Oakland, CA..non-stop flight. Had a Walkman and some of my fave music for the trip. Some guy sitting behind me offered me some acid, which I took. Put in my mixed Joni (homemade) tape and really got off on 'This Flight Tonight'...and how!! 'All I Want', 'Refuge of the Roads', 'California, 'Hejira', 'Amelia', 'Coyote', 'Don Juans Reckless Daughter', and on and on. I am not suggesting that acid is needed, especially if you are in the air already!!! Wow! Russ The light, creation's mind, was everywhere, and all things owned its power. Charles Dickens _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 21:16:53 CEST From: "Signe Wiig Salvesen" Subject: I hope this is not a stupid question..... I really am a huge fan of Joni.But stupid as I am(since I really love her music) I haven`t found out if she`s still preforming live?? I mean does she holds concerts anymore? I hope Someone could tell me..... Thank You! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:43:22 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: I hope this is not a stupid question..... In a message dated 10/2/00 3:26:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, skrotnissan@hotmail.com writes: << I really am a huge fan of Joni.But stupid as I am(since I really love her music) I haven`t found out if she`s still preforming live?? I mean does she holds concerts anymore? I hope Someone could tell me..... Thank You! >> No, this isn't a stupid question. Not to worry here. Although there is nothing scheduled now, She's completed her Both Sides Now mini tour in June of this year. We Joni fans only hope and pray that there will be more. Jim Johanson of Jonimitchell.com will always keep you posted on any new Tour info. You can visit the site to read reports on past tours as well as see pictures. You can find them at www.jonimitchell.com, click on with frame index, then click on tour info. Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:17:00 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Fred gig (NJC) In a message dated 10/2/00 3:00:05 AM, hell@ihug.co.nz writes: >> > >P.S. Fred - why don't you come out and play the Jazz Bakery, sometime >> too? > >There's a great jazz bar here too - The London Bar. Great music, and a >great selection of beer. Why not hop across the Pacific some time! Hell, I'll go wherever they'll have me as long as the economics work out, which for New Zealand is a pretty tall order. But I've always wanted to visit NZ. Why don't you see about talking them into bringing me over. Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:26:57 EDT From: Ricw1217@aol.com Subject: Re: 5 recent purchases... can i play too? ok, let's see... 1. rickie lee jones, its like this 2. madonna, music 3. emmy lou harris, red dirt girl 4. sarah harmer, you were here 5. paul simon's you're the one (getting it tomorrow!) the top of the heap, in my ever so humble opinion is my former namesake, rickielee. soon to be displaced by one of my music gods, monsieur simon, but i'm getting prophetic, since it has yet to be released! speaking of sarah harmer, anybody ever hear of her? i was in starbucks, god help me, and they had a rack of cd's for sale, one of which by ms. harmer. their little blurb compared her to lucinda williams (with whom i am not familiar) and JONI MITCHELL... ok, i thot. i'll bite. and its pretty good! there are two cuts on it i really love (basement apartment and don't get your back up) and several others i like alot. now, its true she's from canada (ontario) and she writes and sings her own songs and the gender is right, but that is where the parallel would have to end. nothing like ms. joni, (who is? go ahead, name one...) but nevertheless, she's pretty good. its fun sometimes to take a chance on a cd and have it turn out for the best. of course, taking a chance and feeling like a chump is not quite as fun, (scud mountain boys, for example...) but life is for learning... can't wait to get my paul simon cd!! out tomorrow, if anyone's interested. take care everybody! ric ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #524 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?