From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #521 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Saturday, September 30 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 521 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- URGENT VIRUS ALERT!!!!! THIS IS NO HOAX [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: white house on jmdl [Relayer211@aol.com] various NJC stuff ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: white house on jmdl [Relayer211@aol.com] re: No Regrets Coyote ["c Karma" ] re: No Regrets Coyote ["c Karma" ] Re: URGENT VIRUS ALERT!!!!! THIS IS NO HOAX [Ken ] "Almost Famous" a film by Cameron Crowe......njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Joni's Stockings ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Vinyl hiccups ["c Karma" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:17:39 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: URGENT VIRUS ALERT!!!!! THIS IS NO HOAX I need to get this message to everyone on this list so pardon the NJC. I received a virus alert this morning when opening an email attachment from someone on this list (WallyKai@interserver.com.ar) Wally honey you might be infected with this virus and no it isn't West Niles. (Joke) It had no subject line but it did have an attachment. The file attachment name was: MATRiX is OUT.scr. This is no hoax. Norton Anti-virus picked it up and warned me before the download was complete. Thank God! If your computers are shielded with an anti virus program, UPDATE YOUR DEFINITIONS NOW. Wally, you may be infected, so scan your computer now. Don't do as I did (half asleep) and download anything without first having the file scanned, whether you know the sender OR not. Hope all is well, Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:49:11 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: white house on jmdl In a message dated 9/29/00 7:16:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, m.harmssen@t-online.de writes: << well, people, honestly I think RELAYER's report on his visit of the W.H. is the funniest thing I read in a long time -not only on JMDL - we should all be tempted to join in a contest in order to render more fun to the posting in general- relayer- your post is a piece of art - FORREST GUMP should blush with inferiority and envy !!!!!!!! nobody objecting I would like to go ahead and hand out copies of the report to different people around that I know will have one of the laughs of their lives- I object-and I find this post rude and very offensive.If your intention is to insult me,you have succeeded.I don't see what is so funny about my post...I may not be the best speller in the world.sue me.so what?please share what you find so funny.I don' t see the humour. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:00:00 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: various NJC stuff Thanks Scott for the post on David Rea. I read a lot of folk dj play lists & just the other day saw his name go by as I was speed reading. It popped out at me after reading about him from Julius & Kakki. Thanks Relayer for your wonderful post about your visit to the Whitehouse. It was sweet & sincere. Shame on those people who were critical & cynical. Again thanks for taking the time to share with all of us something that very few of us will ever have the opportunity to experience. Regarding new music. Yes, what Bob said. There is so much great music but you do have to go digging. As I mentioned, I follow the play lists of many djs around the country who play music that they like, not what they are told to play, on college & noncommercial radio stations around the country. Alison (from SLC or is it NYC now?) is one of those djs & can probably tell you about a good station in your area. And speaking of hard to find music, here is a shameless plug, but not just for me. I am a performing member or Indiegrrl (www.indiegrrl.com) & October is the National Indiegrrl Tour 2000. Check out the website because there might be a show in your area. Indiegrrl was just written up in this month's Acoustic Guitar Magazine. All genres & great music you probably never have heard of because these are women who are Indie artists which means they do all their own booking, promoting, bla bla bla because of the incredible yucky state of the music industry (how's that for an intelligent reason, sorry I am tired from having so much fun at Neil Young last night). For those of you in SCal- I will be at the shows in Ventura on Oct 1, Hollywood Oct 10, and Santa Barbara Oct 22 (I am producing this one). Let me know if you want any more info on these shows. If you go to one somewhere in your area, tell them I sent you & let me know how you liked the show. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:59:18 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: white house on jmdl In a message dated 9/29/00 1:51:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk writes: << I don't think Relayers post on his exciting day should be used to score points for your particular political leanings. If I was Relayer,, I'd be feeling pretty pissed by now. The effect to me, is like pissing all over his great day. bw colin >> Thank you!!!! Pissed is a good word to describe how that post made me feel.I was asked by many people here to share my special day...as you can imagine,posts like that don't exactly make me feel welcome in sharing other special events.However,I know that this guy's rudeness is not the way most people here are.I have always found people here to be very warm and open minded,and usually very polite. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 03:15:24 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: re: No Regrets Coyote Dear Robbie, Congratulations on discovering the joys of "Hejira." I remember reading that "Hejira" was the album Joni gave to Georgia O'Keeffe (wow, I finally remembered the second "f") when she visited her. She must have been duly proud of it, and well she should be! To be properly retro though, you should wait the odd year and a half before playing DJRD, just to replicate the hell we old timers had to contend with waiting for the new release. I'll give you one heads up, though: prepare yourself for some radically different guitar technique! CC "If you got a place to go, you just have to go there." -- JM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 03:33:22 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: re: No Regrets Coyote Dear Chris and Robbie, I may be wrong about this but I think the reason that DJRD was not released on one vinyl disc was due to the length of Paprika Plains. Since the song (piece?) was over 16 minutes, it made it difficult to configure the mix of songs to fit comfortably within the time limits of two sides of vinyl, the predominant media at the time. When remastered for CD, it easily came in within the 70 minute capacity of early CDs. Tee, hee: I loved stacking vinyl albums on the automatic changer (1/3, 2/4). Luckily in the case of DJRD, I was always up dancing at the end of Side 2...it made for a quicker flip! CC "I'm coming back, I'm coming back for more!" -- JM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:54:19 -0400 From: Ken Subject: Re: URGENT VIRUS ALERT!!!!! THIS IS NO HOAX Dug up this from my virus software web site. http://www.cai.com/virusinfo/encyclopedia/ Sorry for the length. Mtx (also known as Win32.Mtx, W32/MTX@mm, W32/Apology, W32/MTX and I-Worm.MTX) Win32. Mtx is a 32-bit virus that has worm-like behavior and drops a trojan. It uses an infection method called "entry point obscuring". This means that rather than executing the virus at the very start of an infected program (the "entry point"), it can patch the program at almost any point inside it's code. This is designed to make detection more difficult, and also means that the virus might not activate straight away when an infected program is run. For example, the virus may only activate when a particular function of the infected program is used. When the virus is run, it infects files in the Windows directory. Win32.Mtx then unpacks and drops its worm component twice in the Windows directory as files with the following names: "Ie_pack.exe" and "Win32.dll" A trojan file named "Mtx_.exe" is also dropped in the Windows directory, and the following registry key (which runs the trojan each time Windows reboots) is created: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\SystemBackup = \MTX_.EXE The trojan attempts to download and run files from a website which may contain other malicious programs. Next, the worm part is launched and creates a modified version of Wsock32.dll. It then overwrites the wininit.ini file with its own copy. The virus' wininit.ini file contains commands to replace the original version of Wsock32.dll file with its own when Windows reboots. Once the original version is replaced, the new Wsock32.dll intercepts information being sent (by the send() function) from the computer to the network. If it detects that an e-mail is being sent, it will immediately send a second e-mail to the same recipient. The second e-mail has no subject and no body, merely an attachment which is randomly picked from a list of names within the code (shown here in the same order as in the infected file): README.TXT.pif I_wanna_see_YOU.TXT.pif MATRiX_Screen_Saver.SCR LOVE_LETTER_FOR_YOU.TXT.pif NEW_playboy_Screen_saver.SCR BILL_GATES_PIECE.JPG.pif TIAZINHA.JPG.pif FEITICEIRA_NUA.JPG.pif Geocities_Free_sites.TXT.pif NEW_NAPSTER_site.TXT.pif METALLICA_SONG.MP3.pif ANTI_CIH.EXE INTERNET_SECURITY_FORUM.DOC.pif ALANIS_Screen_Saver.SCR READER_DIGEST_LETTER.TXT.pif WIN_$100_NOW.DOC.pif IS_LINUX_GOOD_ENOUGH!.TXT.pif QI_TEST.EXE AVP_Updates.EXE SEICHO-NO-IE.EXE YOU_are_FAT!.TXT.pif FREE_xxx_sites.TXT.pif I_am_sorry.DOC.pif Me_nude.AVI.pif Sorry_about_yesterday.DOC.pif Protect_your_credit.HTML.pif JIMI_HMNDRIX.MP3.pif HANSON.SCR FUCKING_WITH_DOGS.SCR MATRiX_2_is_OUT.SCR zipped_files.EXE BLINK_182.MP3.pif In addition, the replacement Wsock32.dll monitors the location of HTTP requests (web-browsing), and the address of e-mail recipients. The program will crash if it detects that the user is attempting to either access an anti-virus site or send e-mail to an anti-virus company. It detects this communication by searching for substrings and strings in the domain name from the following lists: NII. nai. avp. AVP. F-Se f-se mapl pand soph ndmi afee yenn lywa tbav yman wildlist.o il.esafe.c perfectsup complex.is HiServ.com hiserv.com metro.ch> beyond.com mcafee.com pandasoftw earthlink. inexar.com comkom.co. meditrade. mabex.com> cellco.com symantec.c successful inforamp.n newell.com singnet.co bmcd.com.a bca.com.nz trendmicro sophos.com maple.com. netsales.n f-secure.c F-Secure.c The virus contains the following ASCII text: Software provide by [MATRiX] VX team: Ultras, Mort, Nbk, LOrd DArk, Del_Armg0, Anaktos Greetz: All VX guy on #virus channel and Vecna Visit us: www.coderz.net/matrix Cleaning Instructions: 1.Please ensure that you have the latest virus signature files installed on your PC; 2.Open your antivirus program and configure it to detect and clean infected files; 3.Perform a full scan of the hard-disk; 4.Reboot your computer. RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > I need to get this message to everyone on this list so pardon the NJC. I > received a virus alert this morning when opening an email attachment from > someone on this list (WallyKai@interserver.com.ar) Wally honey you might be > infected with this virus and no it isn't West Niles. (Joke) It had no subject > line but it did have an attachment. The file attachment name was: MATRiX is > OUT.scr. This is no hoax. Norton Anti-virus picked it up and warned me before > the download was complete. Thank God! If your computers are shielded with an > anti virus program, UPDATE YOUR DEFINITIONS NOW. Wally, you may be infected, > so scan your computer now. Don't do as I did (half asleep) and download > anything without first having the file scanned, whether you know the sender > OR not. > > Hope all is well, > Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:16:36 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Almost Famous" a film by Cameron Crowe......njc If you were ever a music geek, If you ever loved a band, If you love to hang out with musicians, If you grew up reading Lester Bangs, Ben Fong Torres, and Cameron Crowe, If you ever loved to write, If you ever loved and were hurt, If you have confronted death...... does this describe anyone on this list? See this film. You're welcome. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 16:31:08 -0700 From: "Hell" Subject: Re: white house on jmdl - NJC Relayer wrote: > I object-and I find this post rude and very offensive.If your > intention is to insult me,you have succeeded.I don't see what is so funny > about my post...I may not be the best speller in the world.sue me.so > what?please share what you find so funny.I don' t see the humour. I'm not surprised you were offended - I was offended, and it had nothing to do with me - I thought we had a nicer class of person on this list. Personally I thought your post was great - you obviously had a wonderful time, and experienced something that few, if any of us, will ever do. I hope the incredibly rude replies from some very insensitive people haven't soured your memories. Helen ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:50:57 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Joni's Stockings In a different vein, "They're putting up stockings singing songs of joy and peace." I apologize if this is a repeat. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 06:11:43 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: Vinyl hiccups Posting earlier about experience with vinyl, I began to wax dreamily about instances where the medium used to amuse and infuriate. Bringing home a new LP was much the same as a new CD, all the excitement intact although the packaging made it more difficult to transport without bumping and bending the corners of the fragile cardboard. If you were adept, you could use a key or a penknife to slit the shrink wrap along the open edge to remove the record still leaving the wrap intact to protect the cover. Of course you'd never postpone the joy of opening a gatefold jacket. Remember sex without condoms? (Sigh.) Wider availability of those yuppie/audiophile clear vinyl jackets later provided better graphic prophylaxis. The waning years of the LP saw thinner cardboard sleeves more capable of causing deep paper cuts as well as thinner, poorer vinyl pressings. It is these sometimes poorer pressings that were probably the most infuriating thing about vinyl. It was not that uncommon to unwrap a new LP and upon its very first play, discover you had a lemon. I remember The Beatles' great Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band having an abysmal release due to pressing problems. The Monkees' "Headquarters", and Carole King's "Tapestry" also had indigestion, among many others. I had only one such problem with a new Joni record: my first day of release, cut school, run out and wait for the store to open, what do you mean you don't have it , please check in back, see I told you, keep the change gotta go, hold that bus please copy of "The Hissing of Summer Lawns." Back at home under the headphones, my eyes bugged out as if their lids were held open by toothpicks and my jaw fully distended to the shag carpet upon hearing "The Jungle Line" for the first time . My facial contortions began to subside as the intro to "Edith and The Kingpin" began , the walls and furniture again taking shape as I gradually returned to my bedroom in Queens and began to read along with Joni singing. I remember thinking how sophisticated and elegant her vocal was, and worried that it was going to go over my head so I started to concentrate harder, listening intently. That's when it happened. "Sophmore jive...jive...jive...jive...jive..." "NOOOOO." The tonearm wasn't moving! "...jive...jive...jive..." I ripped the stylus from the disc. My bedroom door flew open, Mom thinking the worst having heard only my cry. Her eyes narrowed as I shooed her away, "Sorry." Oh how I hated Asylum Records at that moment, and the record store, and the bus driver, (hormones make adolescents very unstable), and definitely Queens. I thought this couldn't possibly be happening, not on my new Joni record! I swore that I'd start saving immediately for a Fisher receiver with a Dual turntable instead of the crappy Lafayette all-in-one AM/FM/Phono combo I'd inherited. This microscopic plastic burr was all but ruining something I'd waited months for! Thinking that perhaps this wasn't an isolated incident( sometimes an entire first pressing was similarly afflicted), I set out to fix the problem by adding a small amount of weight to the tonearm. Reaching into my pocket, I exhumed all the spare change I could find and began my surgery. I would blast right through that little sucker. I considered myself the Christian Barnard of the wayward groove. My technique was reknown, I'd never lost a patient. Once the exact combination of coins was discovered, I needed only some scotch tape to secure them to the tonearm above the stylus for a few passes. It always worked. In life, we are sometimes limited by the strength of our resolve, the depth of our passion, misplaced priorities or jealous interference. But other times we are thwarted by the amount of flat area on the top of a tonearm upon which to balance change. This miniscule space coupled with the rake of the arm only allowed a maximum $1.37 (five quarters, two nickels and two pennies) a tenuous orbit above the spinning platter. It proved insufficient. I had purchased a record equipped with an invisible, miniature Hoover Dam. Thus began my tactile relationship with "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns." With a touch as light as it took to feel the embossing in the cardboard jacket for the African figures, I learned to dance with "Edith and The Kingpin." Whenever the needle approached the offending phrase, I would thus be summoned to the player and would apply a most tender tap straight down above the cartridge. If I was appropriately prompt, and with some finesse (perhaps the piano lessons helped), you'd never know there was a problem. If I left the room though, Joni would "jive" forever. Edith and I danced for two years until I left for college. I don't remember the break up...I guess we just lost touch. So this thread goes... Did you ever have a skip problem with a new Joni LP, and if so what was the hiccup? or What was the funniest/weirdest/spookiest/most annoying vinyl hiccup you can recall? CC "Anima rising, queen of Queens." -- JM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #521 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?