From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #520 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Friday, September 29 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 520 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Rea and Joni: Old Friends [Scott Price ] surrey njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: All-Joni Mitchell program at JUDY'S CHELSEA [Robert Holliston ] census update njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Rea and Joni: Old Friends [JRMCo1@aol.com] CDtree [mdc22@cam.ac.uk] Re: H. Diltz Exhibition in San Diego ["Kakki" ] Re: Rea and Joni: Old Friends ["Kakki" ] white house on jmdl [m.harmssen@t-online.de (m.harmssen)] Re: Rea and Joni: Old Friends NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: white house on jmdl NJC [MGVal@aol.com] OF HIGH IMPORTANCE, VIRUS ALERT!!!!! NJC [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: white house on jmdl [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: surrey njc (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] NJC: Respect for Canada ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Ronstadt does "River" [Marksa973@aol.com] No Regrets Coyote ["Robin Mathews" ] Re: EmmyLou Harris concert (njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: census update njc [pat holden ] DJRD, Not too Fast, Robin! ["Christopher J. Treacy" ] Re: Joni's stockings ["Reuben Bell" ] Re: No Regrets Coyote [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Dar Williams (NJC) [TanyerSCO@aol.com] Re: All-Joni Mitchell program at JUDY'S CHELSEA [TanyerSCO@aol.com] RE: census update njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: white house on jmdl NJC [catman ] Re: white house on jmdl [catman ] Re: white house on jmdl NJC [dsk ] Re: The White House is beautiful! NJC [dsk ] no-one knows I'm here ["william" ] WOHAM ["william" ] Re: OF HIGH IMPORTANCE, VIRUS ALERT!!!!! NJC ["Diane Evans" ] NJC -- nick is off to colorado ["Michael Bird" ] misc music & another GREAT concert ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: white house on jmdl NJC [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: misc music & another GREAT concert NJC [Scott Price ] Re: white house on jmdl [catman ] Re: Woke up, it was a Joni morning! [Heather ] RE: Woke up, it was a Joni morning! (NJC) ["Nikki Johnson" Subject: Rea and Joni: Old Friends Thanks to a heads-up posted here on the JMDL, I was able to catch up with David Rea this evening at a small club in Kingston, Wash. We arrived 10 minutes before the appointed starting time of 7:30 p.m. only to find out the show didn't really start until 8:30, but it worked out fine because Rea made his appearance shortly after we did and this enabled my wife Shawn and I to spend a considerable bit of time chatting with him...we were nearly the only people in the whole place! Rea met Joni in Toronto in 1964 while both were fledgling singer-songwriters. Other notables around the scene at that time were Ian & Sylvia, Gordon Lightfoot, and Neil Young. David Rea's latest CD, "X7," utilizes some early Mitchell illustrations for the front and back cover art. When asked about it, he said he had numerous Joni originals, "a house full," and when another idea for the cover art fell through, he decided to ask Joni for permission to use some of these old drawings, to which she readily consented..."they're YOURS to do with what you want," she reportedly told him. When asked how he ended up in Washington State, Rea told us he was travelling through this far northwest corner of the U.S. with a companion in a motor home when he met a woman and the motor home ended up being parked for three days outside her place. When his travelling companion grew restless, Rea told him to take the vehicle and continue on without him. Rea later flew back to California and "loaded up the Volvo with all his Joni artwork and everything else he owned." He found his way back to the Northwest and has been here ever since. Rea said that Joni would stop by his apartment in Toronto and ask him for guitar lessons. This was when she first began with the guitar, having started with a baritone ukulele. He said he always refused her, politely, because he could sense that she was already developing a unique style and didn't want to mess with it. After she got her first Martin (guitar) he said they worked out some open tunings, and he once shared the stage with her at the Mariposa Folk Festival. He described her as "very rigid" when it came to performing back then, implying that her style did not lend itself to other musicians providing accompaniment. The performance tonight was polished, one that Rea has undoubtedly done countless times over the years. I would characterize him as a quintessential folk singer, reminiscent of Seeger and Guthrie, with obvious country and blues influences as well. He plays with a thumb pick on his strumming hand and employs this pick on the lower strings while plucking the higher strings with his other fingers. He slid a capo up and down the neck for nearly every song and skillfully used a bottleneck slide during a gritty blues number. His comfortable vocals emote the full range from humor to sadness, but in the folk tradition, usually leave the audience feeling upbeat. It all added up to a very fun evening...ultra-small venue (six tables only)...great dinner and wine...and plenty of "Joni content." :-) Scott ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 04:07:00 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: surrey njc talk about synchronicity!!!! i'm back from my rehearsal with the big band and i've decided to sing surrey with the fringe on top. i'll do it with the quartet, though, because ''maestro'' won't have time to arrange and rehearse surrey with the band. so far my set list is: with the band: lush life i can cook too something's gotta give chattanooga choo choo [which i do SO HORRIBLY you wouldn't believe it, but maestro's wife wants to do the ''walking in my diner nothing could be finer'' part] [i want to do cleaner from des moines instead but maestro doesn't know it(!!!!!!!)] with the quartet: twisted something cool i can't give you anything but love someone to watch over me surrey with the fringe on top i know it's going to be a total disaster because my voice is absolutely shot; besides, maestro raises an eyebrow when i forget to change the gender of the words [''although SHE may not be the GIRL some men think of as handsome'', i'll never get it right!], but it's a free concert for god's sake, what do you expect? frigging maria callas? in any case, i'll keep you all posted so that you can throw tomatoes at my picture and thus vicariously be part of the audience. wallyk, still running the census thing so tell me what IS your sign???????? > I played "The Surrey with the Fringe on Top" for a singer in the piano bar > tonight. The "Coyote" intro vamp worked perfectly. How about that? > > DAVID > LAHM > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:04:29 -0700 From: Robert Holliston Subject: Re: All-Joni Mitchell program at JUDY'S CHELSEA Hey David! Sounds like an awesome program, and I just wish (as I do at least a thousand times a day) that I lived in Manhattan and could just stroll down to Judy's Chelsea (such a fun, intimate, wonderful venue) to catch your show. I have such affectionate memories of my evening there earlier this year, when Patrick, Kay and I caught your amazing tribute to Dorothy Fields. In bocca del lupo for a wonderful show - I'll be thinking of you!! Manhattanites, this is not to be missed!! all the best, Roberto ps - David: How do you feel about the possibility of this ending up on a JMDL tape/CD tree? Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > I'm going to be accompanying a pretty good jazz singer, Mitch Ellis, in an > all-Joni program: we are rehearsing > > Sunny Sunday Coyote In France They Kiss on Main Street Refuge of the > Roads > Cherokee Louise Raised on Robbery All I Want I Don't Know Where I Stand > Chelsea Morning > > Dave Ruffels will be on bass. > > The schedule is: Tues. Oct. 17 at 8:30 > Thurs. Oct. 19 at 11:00 > Tues. Oct. 24 at 8:30 > Thurs. Oct. 26 at 11:00 > > JUDY'S CHELSEA is at 169 8th Avenue between 18th & 19th Streets; the phone # > is (212) 929-5410. > > I played "The Surrey with the Fringe on Top" for a singer in the piano bar > tonight. The "Coyote" intro vamp worked perfectly. How about that? > > DAVID > LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:38:26 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Joni's stockings At 9/28/2000 06:59 PM, Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > how many stocking referances are there in Joni's songs?there's "All I >want",where Joni wants to reck her stockings in Jukebox dive and "help me" >where she has a hole in her stocking.are there any others? The Last Time I Saw Richard: "And a bar maid came by in fishnet stockings and a bow tie" Judgement of the Moon and Stars: "Long silk stockings on the bedposts of refinement " Les - always looking for an opportunity to use the lyric search engine at www.jmdl.com/lyrics ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 04:37:37 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: census update njc so far, 84 respondents. libras, as predicted, come first. second place is a tie: gemini, sagittarius and...TAURUS!!! the least represented sign ... MY OWN: capricorn! i thought there were scads of us goats. keep on posting, wally ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 04:48:37 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Rea and Joni: Old Friends Scott writes: << Thanks to a heads-up posted here on the JMDL, I was able to catch up with David Rea this evening at a small club in Kingston, Wash. >> Scott, Thanks for the fabulous report on the David Rea gig. You captured it beautifully with your prose. This jmdl is the best thing going, and how we complete each other with discoveries, threads and fruition of sweet music and lengendary muscians continues to astound and delight me. I appreciate such delicious and unbiased detail. I daydreamed of what life and times Joni and David must of shared in the 60s golden days when I found her early art on his CD cover. Reading your review, the mysteries unraveled. And thanks to kakki for calling the Washington Rea/JMDL connection...great how we tend to cover all the bases around here on these things. Thanks to David Rea for keeping on with the music. And love to Joni as always for being. Rea's CD will soon be mine. Now lets see those Joni canvases David's got... :-) - -Julius N.P. "Woodstock" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:54:05 +0100 From: mdc22@cam.ac.uk Subject: CDtree Hi I am a reletive newby to this game. Are there any British fans out there? and can anyone get me started on a CDtree I am paticularly interested in Hissing outakes. Thanks in advance. Myke. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:54:26 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: H. Diltz Exhibition in San Diego Lindsay wrote: > An Exhibition and sale of photographs by > Henry Diltz ... September 21-24 in Del Mar. And here it is ... uh, > September 27. Drat, I say! (Well, okay, I said something worse.) But > then I spied the following: "Sept. 29 - Oct. 1 at the Debra Owen Gallery, > 3545 11th Ave. in downtown San Diego, for more info call 760-942-4744." > The bad part is he was at the opening in Del Mar on Sept. 21. The good > part is admission is free. If anyone in this area wants to jaunt down > there on, say, Saturday, please email me off list. Lindsay, I meant to alert you but time slipped away from me. I'm so glad you noted it. I wanted to make it down for the Del Mar show and have a hankering to come down for the Friday show at the Debra Owen Gallery where Henry will be narrating his "Slide Show" as a benefit for Monarch High School. I hope you can go to the Friday show and hear his personal stories - he is so charming and you will flip over his gorgeous photographs. Steve, Craig, et al - who will brave the Friday night traffic for this one? ;-) I'm sorely tempted to !! Kakki NP: CPR - One For Every Moment - Live at the Coach House - San Juan Capistrano '99 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:03:21 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Rea and Joni: Old Friends Julius wrote: > Thanks for the fabulous report on the David Rea gig. You captured it > beautifully with your prose. This jmdl is the best thing going, and how we > complete each other with discoveries, threads and fruition of sweet music and > lengendary muscians continues to astound and delight me. I was so thrilled to read that Scott had trundled on down to Kingston to catch the show! Great review Scott! Thank you Juliius for turning us on to this to begin with. What a fantastic connectioni! I have spent many a cozy time over the past 20 years in the Main Street Ale House in Kingston where Rea plays waiting for the ferry on my way back and forth to visit my "second family" in the area. I wish I could have been there last night but the good news is that we now know Rea is a regular there so......I will have something very special to look forward to next time! ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:03:00 +0200 From: m.harmssen@t-online.de (m.harmssen) Subject: white house on jmdl well, people, honestly I think RELAYER's report on his visit of the W.H. is the funniest thing I read in a long time -not only on JMDL - we should all be tempted to join in a contest in order to render more fun to the posting in general- relayer- your post is a piece of art - FORREST GUMP should blush with inferiority and envy !!!!!!!! nobody objecting I would like to go ahead and hand out copies of the report to different people around that I know will have one of the laughs of their lives- this is so deeply American, all so positive - it should be turned into a short film > THE OTHER DAY AT THE WHITE HOUSE < has M.P.'s FLYING CIRCUS gone to the States ? If so, they should be in the film's cast definitely........... tears still rolling down michael in frankfurt/germany m.harmssen@t-online.de ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:08:58 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Rea and Joni: Old Friends NJC Wow! what a great night for you & Shawn, Scott...thanks so much for sharing the detail! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:43:03 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: white house on jmdl NJC In a message dated 9/29/00 4:16:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, m.harmssen@t-online.de writes: << honestly I think RELAYER's report on his visit of the W.H. is the funniest thing I read in a long time -not only on JMDL - we should all be tempted to join in a contest in order to render more fun to the posting in general- relayer- your post is a piece of art - FORREST GUMP should blush with inferiority and envy !!!!!!!! nobody objecting I would like to go ahead and hand out copies of the report to different people around that I know will have one of the laughs of their lives- this is so deeply American, all so positive - >> Michael, I have a burp coming up from me that keeps saying: "reply to this post, reply to this post," replacing the annoying "buy pantyhose" refrain of last night. I know that you and I have exchanged posts on how subjects can sometime fall into that funky "deeply American, all so positive," vein. My take has been that this is often just how people share the little peccadilloes of their lives in order to connect a bit more intimately over this faceless medium. Having said that and left most of my dear readers snoring in front of their monitors, I would like to say that my perception of this post of yours is that this is one of mocking laughter at the White House post. I accept that I could be wrong, but in case I'm not, I would like to weigh in with my reaction to Relayer's story. I found it to be very charming and sweet. As tainted as it may with scandals or interests that run counter to the environment or children or cater to special interest groups such as the NRA or oil companies, the White House is a symbol of hope. Hope that everyone can grow up to be President no matter what their beginnings. Hope that the current President is a good and fair one. Hope that things always have an opportunity to be better, no matter what. I found it refreshing that Relayer was able to be awed and inspired by his visit. I don't think that we should ever be blind to what's wrong and our responsibility to protest, educate and fix. As well, I think that we should never allow this somewhat darker responsibility tarnish and mar our ability to find inspiration in our symbols. I am nearly always the first one to weigh in with mocking exasperation of suburban materialism and corny All-American sentiments. Relayer's post reminded me that mocking can sometimes work to dilute legitimate joy and celebration of the hopeful. Relayer had a terrific weekend, truly once in a lifetime as he pointed out. I really enjoyed this post and shared it with my kids last night. They were tickled as well by his wonderful opportunity. And that's what I'm burping about this morning. If I misunderstood the nature of your post, I apologize. MG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:43:49 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: OF HIGH IMPORTANCE, VIRUS ALERT!!!!! NJC Don't panic, but I received a file containing a virus. It had no subject, and the sender was WallyK. These viruses are very tricky. It had an attachment and I thought you were sending me something related to Astrology or the census you've been taking. So please everyone BEWARE. Thank goodness Norton picked up on it. The virus attachment contained the words Matrix. I had just gotten up, so I really wasn't too alert. It really freaked ME OUT. I never had that happen before. Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:55:43 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: white house on jmdl I thought it was funny as well. Here are the Clintons denying forcefully that they are using the taxpayers money for purely political reasons, villifying all those who claim otherwise and yet the White House is clearly being used massively for compensating fundraising purposes. Not to mention the fact that the plane and entourage needed to return the First Senate Candidate from New York back to the White House and then back to the campaign trail is not even considered although the GAO has estimated that the First Senate Candidate from New York has racked up 3 1/2 million dollars in just costs for the planes for which the First Senate Candidate has reimbursed the taxpayers $3500 (hundred) dollars. So its nice to actually have a witness to and description of whats really going on in spite of all the denials. The magnitude of the arrogance of the Clintons is absolutely breathtaking. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:58:24 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: surrey njc (md) Hey Wally why dont you do "Dont touch me there" by the Tubes and "Do it to me one more time" by the Carpenters. marcel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:03:21 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC: Respect for Canada My respect goes out to Canada today as they mourn the passing of Pierre Trudeau. He seemed like a good guy. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:29:27 EDT From: Marksa973@aol.com Subject: Ronstadt does "River" If you want to hear Linda Ronstadt's version of "River", you can go to www.elektra.com and listen to it. It's from her upcoming Christmas album. You can also hear her do a duet with Rosemary Clooney on "White Christmas", plus she does "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas." Linda's version of "River" is more orchestrated than the original version, but her phrasing is remarkably similar to Joni's. So many people have covered this song, it's nice to see yet another treatment. You can hear the whole song on the Elektra site too, not just a few seconds of it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:03:02 +0200 From: "Robin Mathews" Subject: No Regrets Coyote Well only that it's taken me 24 years to listen to Hejira. My package arrived today from Amazon.com proudly proclaiming that it was Digitally Remastered with High Definition Compatible Digital and containing complete Full Colour Original Art all for the special price of $11.99! I have been into Joni since 1970, but until I started lurking some 6-7 months ago I have been isolated in my own Joni world. I bought her early LP's (age showing) but for some reason missed the albums between HOSL and CMIRS. With all thats been said on the list in recent times about Hejira it had to be special for the first time - so out came the portable CD player and into a darken room. I was not disappointed from the moment of No Regrets Coyote to the last fading notes of Refuge of the Roads - Bliss, sheer Bliss. The album gives the impression of movement, lost love and escape with the hope of a reunion. Hejira makes me reminisce about a Greyhound journey around the States in 1970 - yes I even did the Staten Island ferry ride too. Thanks to everybody for helping me to understand and appreciate Joni's work, its so difficult out there in the wilderness, until one day I aimlessly typed Joni Mitchell in Yahoo to find Wally's JM.com and now I'm connected with so many kindred spirits. Now for a big decision - do I rush to listen to DJRD that arrived in the same package or do a I wait a few days listening to Hejira, after all its only been 23 years since DJRD was issued ! Robbie Alcalali, Alicante, Spain NPIMH - Why did I wait 24 years ? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:42:03 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: EmmyLou Harris concert (njc) > > Just one more comment about Julie Miller. She & Buddy did a set > before Emmylou's show here in Seattle a few years ago. They didn't > perform with the band, however, it was just Buddy with an acoustic > guitar. She has an unusual voice, a voice suited to a country or > Appalachian folk style if I remember right. Julie wrote the song 'All > My Tears' from the 'Wrecking Ball' album, a very pretty hymn. Maybe > that was the song that Emmylou dueted with her on? > > Mark in Seattle Julie and Buddy Miller played at the Star Bar once in Atlanta several years ago. My friends who had a local band called "Smokin' Grass" opened up for them. There style was a hot, progressive bluegrass sound, hence the name. The marquee behind the stage had their names written on it, so that it read, "Julie and Buddy Miller Smokin' Grass " Julie didn't like that sign and apparently let them know. From what I understand, she comes from a Christian background and originally peformed religious music. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:08:48 +0100 From: "Steve" Subject: Emmylou's band (SJC) MDESTE1 wrote a very eloquent review of his visit to see Emmylou at the Fillmore, I saw Emmylou for the first time at Hopetoun House,near Edinburgh just last month and can vouch for everything he says. If Emmylou plays at a venue near you then she's well worth the effort to go to see. Her band members Buddy Miller and drummer Brady Blades were both members of Steve Earles' sometime band "The Dukes". I assumed the bass player was Darryl Johnson who apparently has left Emmylous' band, Spyboy. (Steve Earle watched Emmylou's entire set from the wings, she had duetted with him earlier in his set). I didn't catch the name of the bass player at the show ,so it could have been Brady Blades brother, their rapport was heavenly, with an absolutely stupendous duet on drums and congas. His bass playing was amazing and reminded me instantly of Jaco Pastorius both in tone and style. Quite often at a gig instead of being in the crowd "watching" the performers, the music is so powerful it just sucks you in and lifts you onto a higher plane (it does to me-no drugs honest) and you actually FEEL part of it.This happened a few times during Emmylous set such was the quality of the perfomance. It made me wonder how I would feel to be in the crowd at a similar Joni concert, I can still remember such moments at my only Joni concert to date at Wembley 74. I'd probably be "high" for weeks. Steve......the impossible dreamer........ ......sweet dreams are made of this ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:16:02 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: Re: census update njc Wally Kairuz wrote: > so far, 84 respondents. > libras, as predicted, come first. > second place is a tie: gemini, sagittarius and...TAURUS!!! > the least represented sign ... MY OWN: capricorn! i thought there were scads > of us goats. > keep on posting, > wally wallistahhhh what about the scorpions??? magsie - -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:13:42 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: DJRD, Not too Fast, Robin! Robin wrote : "Now for a big decision - do I rush to listen to DJRD that arrived in the same package or do a I wait a few days listening to Hejira, after all its only been 23 years since DJRD was issued !" My advice would be to let "Hejira" sink in for a few... I absolutely adore DJRD, but it's an entirely different affair, and with Hejira so fresh in mind, it might get sold a little short. DJRD is a little more risque, a bit more of an experiment; some critics feel it should have been edited to one record, as it was 2 when it first arrived. Musically, it's busier than Hejira, conceptually - wilder. She was really off on a tangent for this one, a bizarre chapter in the Joni files, and one that I'm obsessed with. Enjoy! -Chris. NP: "A Case of You" - Brian Kennedy; gorgeous! ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:20:11 -0400 From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Re: Joni's stockings Slightly related, so I'll throw it in... "Mama's nylons underneath my cowgirl jeans..." from "Song to Sharon." Reuben Reuben Bell Events and Public Relations Coordinator Glencairn Museum Bryn Athyn, PA www.glencairnmuseum.org >>> Les Irvin 09/28/00 09:38PM >>> At 9/28/2000 06:59 PM, Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > how many stocking referances are there in Joni's songs?there's "All I >want",where Joni wants to reck her stockings in Jukebox dive and "help me" >where she has a hole in her stocking.are there any others? The Last Time I Saw Richard: "And a bar maid came by in fishnet stockings and a bow tie" Judgement of the Moon and Stars: "Long silk stockings on the bedposts of refinement " Les - always looking for an opportunity to use the lyric search engine at www.jmdl.com/lyrics ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:25:25 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: No Regrets Coyote <> That's a great capsulized summary, Robbie...it's that and MUCH more, I'm sure you'll find buried treasure every time you listen to it! In the meantime, don't delay with DJRD, or Mingus, where you'll discover the total fruition and peak of her jazz singing! And by the way, a belated welcome to the list, looking forward to your takes on the other "new" Joni records! Bob NP: Stan Ridgway, "Gumbo Man" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:33:44 EDT From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Dar Williams (NJC) In a message dated 9/29/00 3:32:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << sepstein@agmont.com >> <<>> Hi Stephen! I just learned about Dar Williams this summer and I would say that to know her is to love her. She's a sort of folk rock like Sarah McLaughlin and the like, only she's a little less well known at this point. She's a great singer and a great musician with great songs that are very insightful. I think you should check it out. I suspect you will like her very much. You can pick up one of her albums at any good record store or, of course, online. : ) tanya in nyc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:35:49 EDT From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Re: All-Joni Mitchell program at JUDY'S CHELSEA In a message dated 9/29/00 3:32:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << I'm going to be accompanying a pretty good jazz singer, Mitch Ellis, in an all-Joni program: we are rehearsing Sunny Sunday Coyote In France They Kiss on Main Street Refuge of the Roads Cherokee Louise Raised on Robbery All I Want I Don't Know Where I Stand Chelsea Morning Dave Ruffels will be on bass. The schedule is: Tues. Oct. 17 at 8:30 Thurs. Oct. 19 at 11:00 Tues. Oct. 24 at 8:30 Thurs. Oct. 26 at 11:00 JUDY'S CHELSEA is at 169 8th Avenue between 18th & 19th Streets; the phone # is (212) 929-5410. >> Hi David! I'm very interested in hearing your show. Any word on ticket prices or drink minimums? : ) tanya in nyc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:20:33 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: census update njc a miserly seven so far. but then scorpions are so secretive... wallyk, risking a million stings - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "pat holden" Para: "Wally Kairuz" ; Enviado: Viernes 29 de Septiembre de 2000 11:16 Asunto: Re: census update njc > > > Wally Kairuz wrote: > > > so far, 84 respondents. > > libras, as predicted, come first. > > second place is a tie: gemini, sagittarius and...TAURUS!!! > > the least represented sign ... MY OWN: capricorn! i thought there were scads > > of us goats. > > keep on posting, > > wally > > wallistahhhh > what about the scorpions??? > magsie > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _~O > / /\_, > ___/\ > /_ > ----------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:33:24 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: white house on jmdl NJC MG-I wa surprised by this post too. I didn't see anything funny in Relayers post. It didn't strike me that he was being funny just describing his great day. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:37:24 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: white house on jmdl I don't think Relayers post on his exciting day should be used to score points for your particular political leanings. If I was Relayer,, I'd be feeling pretty pissed by now. The effect to me, is like pissing all over his great day. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:34:58 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: white house on jmdl NJC well, michael in frankfurt/germany, honestly I think YOUR response is the nastiest thing I've read in a long time. Repulsively nasty piece of work. Relayer was asked by several people, including myself, to tell the list about his experience and he did, sincerely and in great detail which takes a lot of time to do, and you slap it down like this? Damn. There's nothing funny about that. My response to what he wrote is in another message and you can laugh all you want about my deeply American ways (whatever that means to you). I'm truly resisting attaching your nastiness to any particular culture. Surely not everyone in such a huge group of people would react as cruelly as you have under the guise of being amused. That's sickening to me. Debra Shea "m.harmssen" wrote: > well, people, > honestly I think RELAYER's report on his visit of the W.H. is the funniest thing > I read in a long time -not only on JMDL - we should all be tempted to join in a > contest in order to render more fun to the posting in general- relayer- your post > is a piece of art - FORREST GUMP should blush with inferiority and envy !!!!!!!! > nobody objecting I would like to go ahead and hand out copies of the report to > different people around that I know will have one of the laughs of their lives- > this is so deeply American, all so positive - it should be turned into a short > film > THE OTHER DAY AT THE WHITE HOUSE < > has M.P.'s FLYING CIRCUS gone to the States ? If so, they should be in the film's > cast definitely........... > tears still rolling down michael in frankfurt/germany > m.harmssen@t-online.de ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:36:34 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: The White House is beautiful! NJC What a great experience! I would have been thrilled too, definitely. I like Bill Clinton in spite of his mistakes and think history will be kind to him and harsh toward the hateful rabid dog right-wingers who won't leave him alone. But no matter what a person thinks of the President, spending time in that house with such history to it would be amazing. Your experience certainly is one to treasure and I really enjoyed reading about it. Thanks so much for sharing it. Debra Shea Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > I wanted to take a break from the internet for a little while,so I > haven't shared about about my weekend yet,but I know many are interested in > hereing about it,so I will share some of the events of this last weekend.It > is noe exaggeration tosay this last weekend was won of the best,most emorable > weekends of my life.I feel so incredibly blessed and fortunate to have been > givven this opportunitty.not many people get to do what we did. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:50:44 +0700 From: "william" Subject: no-one knows I'm here One day I'll just disappear. Below my window. With a view. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 01:33:35 +0700 From: "william" Subject: WOHAM ........win your medals fuck your strangers .... ......a little passion .... Joni says the four letter word four times throughout her albums if I'm not mistaken. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:44:12 EST From: "Diane Evans" Subject: Re: OF HIGH IMPORTANCE, VIRUS ALERT!!!!! NJC Rose, You wrote: > Don't panic, but I received a file containing a virus. It had no subject, >and the sender was WallyK. These viruses are very tricky. It had an >attachment and I thought you were sending me something related to Astrology >or the census you've been taking. So please everyone BEWARE. Thank goodness >Norton picked up on it. The virus attachment contained the words Matrix. I also received the Matrix file, plus two others from a "claudio kairuz." I assumed the same thing you did, but McAffee's did not sniff a virus. I tried opening one of them, to no avail. My system seemed fine last night, but my husband juse emailed me something about fatal errors. Uh-oh! I hope it's something fixable! So watch out jmdl-ers! Careful of which files you open! Diane _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:51:59 EDT From: "Andrew Ritchie" Subject: Woke up, it was a Joni morning! Hello all! I'm from Ottawa, Canada and a journalism student who is in love with the art and music of Joni Mitchell. At 23, I should fall into the hip-hop-loving, rock-star-adoring demographic of music lovers, but I happen to share Joni's disdain for the current state (or non-state) of today's music. With the exception of a few excellent musicians, including Joni, there is a derth of talent out there and it's very noticeable. I discovered Joni when I was 15 with the release of the immaculate "Night Ride Home," marking her triumphant return to introspection. That album got quite a bit of radio play on CBC Radio 1 and I fell in love with that deep, husky voice singing about love, life and liberty. I explored her past with zeal and devotion and came out of it loving classic albums like "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns", "Hejira", and "Blue." Brilliance ebbs from every line on these records and I knew that I was listening to a formidable intellectual and a die-hard artist with a vision. I look forward to getting to know you all and participating in the discussions. Cheers from Ottawa! - -Andrew _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:15:15 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: white house on jmdl I don't want to go off on a rant here, but the cynicism of a couple of the replies to relayer's White House post is disheartening to me, to say the least. That sunflower sized "Bush for President" button of yours might as well be as large as the Sun itself, marcel. Cry if you want to, michael in frankfurt, but what's your point? Is "positive" an amusing concept in Germany? I fail to grasp the derisive humor you seem to have found in what appeared to me to be an entertaining and, largely apolitical, up close and personal tour of the White House for we jmdlites. I'm all for a reasoned discussion of the pros and cons of America's current First Family, but I find it unconscienable that one would take a well-intentioned informative post completely out of context and use it as a launching point for scathing partisan offensives. That sucks. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:38:34 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Woke up, it was a Joni morning! NJC <> Hi Andrew, & welcome to the JMDL!! While I agree with you regarding Joni's unique genius, I'd take exception to the above comment..."Music" is in FINE shape, there's been just as many great new records put out this year as any, the problem is RADIO and record company marketing, which is only interested in trends and duplicating million-sellers. I was ecstatic with my latest record purchase, I got the new EmmyLou Harris, Rickie Lee Jones, Joan Osborne, David Wilcox (really excellent), Peter Case, & Tuck & Patti releases, and they are GREAT! Couple that with fine '00 releases by Elliott Smith, The Eels, Aimee Mann, Patti Smith, XTC, Steely Dan, Shelby Lynne, and many others and it's really a banner year for new music! Unfortunately, you've gotta root around like a pig in the trough, searching through all the crap to find something good! Anyway, I don't think there's a dearth of talent making music, but there's a big gap in talent in the marketing and selling of it! Bob NP: The Rolling Stones, "Under The Boardwalk" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:41:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's stockings - --- Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > > > how many stocking referances are there in > Joni's songs?there's "All I > want",where Joni wants to reck her stockings in > Jukebox dive and "help me" > where she has a hole in her stocking.are there any others? ... a bar maid came by in *fishnet stockings* and a bowtie ... Mama's *nylons* beneath my cowgirl jeans That's all I can think of now - and it reminds me... time to stock up on stockings! _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:24:17 -0500 From: "Michael Bird" Subject: NJC -- nick is off to colorado Just writing to say goodbye for a little while, I'm leaving New York tomorrow for a vacation in Colorado -- blissfully internet-free for ten days, far from the overkill, far from the overload. Have a lovely week. I am guaranteed to have this song running through my head, and will thus be thinking of the JMDL: "I'm just getting used to Colorado -- oh, street bravado, carry me. Why did you bring me to a place so wild and pretty? Are there pigeons in this park -- muggers after dark -- in these golden trees . . . I put things back together there, it all falls right in place . . . " Nickel Chief ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:33:55 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: misc music & another GREAT concert Thanks for the EmmyLou Concert review Marcel. I love EmmyLou & listened to her endlessly during the 1980s. Kind of how I used to listen to Joni endlessly during the 1970s. She is both beautiful & a great musician. A class act. Someone said that Buddy was her band leader which surprises me because every time I have seen her in the past she was always the band leader with whoever she was playing with. I know this has surprised some people I know. Maybe this is because of her stunning beauty & ethereal voice quality that some don't expect her to be that good of a musician. But she is. Dar Williams is a great songwriter. I especially love her songs, "The Babysitter" & "When I Was a Boy". She is a very unique & enjoyable performer. I recommend going to her show. I have seen her a couple of times. She is funny & charming as a person too. Thanks for the Mark Knopfler album review (sorry I forgot who did it). Nobody moves me like Mark Knopfler when it comes to the guitar. Another class act. I just saw one of the best concerts in my life last night. And I have seen my share of great ones (Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, Joni, countless Bonnie Raitt, Bob Marley, Woodstock, to name a few). Last night it was Neil Young at the SB County Bowl. That man is the living example of a musician who just gets better with age. He plays guitar like a man possessed. I don't think I have ever experienced anyone who is so pure & connected to the muse, with the exception of Bob Marley. I have never seen Neil live without CSNY (many decades ago) so am not sure if he has always put 1,000% into his concerts the way he did last night. As a musician, he has inspired me to new heights that is for sure. I can't remember all the songs but the highlights were Helpless (I cried all the way through this one). Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere, Cowgirl In The Sand (this went on for a half an hour with wave after wave of incredible guitar solos one after the other...the audience on their feet & screaming). When is the last time I screamed as loud as I could at a concert? Clapping just didn't cut it and screaming was the only way to give back the adequate response to his absolutely stunning performance. Boy is my voice hoarse today! Did anyone else see Neil on this tour? So far, from what I have heard from folks who have been is that it was one of those life altering experiences & I would concur. (I promise you, no drugs were involved though I did smell some pretty sweet stuff wafting about...). ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:25:11 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: white house on jmdl NJC That was, of course, totally NJC. Sorry. My bad. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:35:06 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Re: misc music & another GREAT concert NJC At 03:33 PM 9/29/00 -0700, Kate Bennett wrote: >Thanks for the EmmyLou Concert review Marcel. >Someone said that Buddy was her band leader which surprises me Hi Kate, That was me, and I here is what I posted: >Buddy Miller, as you wrote, is a gifted musician and has been >Emmylou's constant stage and studio companion for a while and >is very good at being the unofficial leader of the band While it's not *his* band, he's certainly in the forefront, taking most all the lead riffs and displaying his talents on a number of instruments. But the point I was really trying to make was that I often find these long-time musical associations conducive to some great product. When a headliner finds, and keeps, long term, collaborating musicians, it can be a rich exchange. One that comes immediately to mind is Tony Bennett and his long-time pianist Ralph Sharon. I'm tempted to include Joni and Wayne Shorter here too but he tours *with* Joni even more rarely than *she* tours. :-( Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 01:06:11 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: white house on jmdl JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > I don't want to go off on a rant here, but the cynicism of a couple of the replies to relayer's White House post is disheartening to me, to say the least. > > That sunflower sized "Bush for President" button of yours might as well be as large as the Sun itself, marcel. Cry if you want to, michael in frankfurt, but what's your point? Is "positive" an amusing concept in Germany? I am glad to see my radar wasn't completely off. I was appalled by both posts. I wonder if these two gave time out to think of anyone's feelings, like Relayers, but assume they are too busy thinking they are superior beings to bother about something so trivial as a persons feelings. It still astonishes me that people can be so self centred and show such lack of compassion. I hope it always will astonish me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:22:59 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: Woke up, it was a Joni morning! Welcome Andrew!!! Nice to hear you are from Ottawa. I have tons of relatives there. Next time we are up there let's get together. We could go to Sparks St., have a cup of java and talk Joni :-) There is a music shop on Sparks St. that had Joni lyric books .... are they still there? Heather At 02:51 PM 9/29/00 -0400, Andrew Ritchie wrote: >Hello all! > >I'm from Ottawa, Canada and a journalism student who is in love with the >art and music of Joni Mitchell. > >At 23, I should fall into the hip-hop-loving, rock-star-adoring >demographic of music lovers, but I happen to share Joni's disdain for the >current state (or non-state) of today's music. With the exception of a >few excellent musicians, including Joni, there is a derth of talent out >there and it's very noticeable. > >I discovered Joni when I was 15 with the release of the immaculate "Night >Ride Home," marking her triumphant return to introspection. That album >got quite a bit of radio play on CBC Radio 1 and I fell in love with that >deep, husky voice singing about love, life and liberty. I explored her >past with zeal and devotion and came out of it loving classic albums like >"The Hissing Of Summer Lawns", "Hejira", and "Blue." Brilliance ebbs from >every line on these records and I knew that I was listening to a >formidable intellectual and a die-hard artist with a vision. > >I look forward to getting to know you all and participating in the >discussions. > >Cheers from Ottawa! > >-Andrew > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:47:48 -0400 From: "Nikki Johnson" Subject: RE: Woke up, it was a Joni morning! (NJC) HI and welcome Andrew! I have to say that I feel much the same way...and at the age of 21 most people look at me weird when I start talking about Joni or some of my other favorite music! I joined the list a few months ago and have really enjoyed it and made some great friends here! Welcome and hope you enjoy it too! Nikki "Ever since I was a baby girl the one thing I wanted most in this world was to keep my love alive" ~ Heart > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > Andrew Ritchie > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 2:52 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Woke up, it was a Joni morning! > > > Hello all! > > I'm from Ottawa, Canada and a journalism student who is in love > with the art > and music of Joni Mitchell. > > At 23, I should fall into the hip-hop-loving, rock-star-adoring > demographic > of music lovers, but I happen to share Joni's disdain for the > current state > (or non-state) of today's music. With the exception of a few excellent > musicians, including Joni, there is a derth of talent out there and it's > very noticeable. > > I discovered Joni when I was 15 with the release of the immaculate "Night > Ride Home," marking her triumphant return to introspection. That > album got > quite a bit of radio play on CBC Radio 1 and I fell in love with > that deep, > husky voice singing about love, life and liberty. I explored her > past with > zeal and devotion and came out of it loving classic albums like > "The Hissing > Of Summer Lawns", "Hejira", and "Blue." Brilliance ebbs from > every line on > these records and I knew that I was listening to a formidable > intellectual > and a die-hard artist with a vision. > > I look forward to getting to know you all and participating in the > discussions. > > Cheers from Ottawa! > > -Andrew > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #520 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?