From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #518 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Thursday, September 28 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 518 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- the libras are coming njc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] To CD or not to CD ["James L. Leonard" ] Whoooo hooooo!!!(njc) ["Victor Johnson" ] astrology censu NJC [SAVtheWAVE@aol.com] The demise of DBX (NJC) ["Lori R. Fye" ] Joni Mention in Chicago Tribune (+ freebies) [mann@chicagonet.net] FTR: the arbutus rustling ["Patrick Willoughby" ] i'm baaaccccccck - sjc - boards & nails [Catherine McKay ] Re: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long [Mark Domyancich ] Re: astrology censu NJC [Alison ] RE: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long NJC ["Eric Wilcox" ] RE: astrology censu NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] an odd joni book on eBay [Murphycopy@aol.com] RE: i'm baaaccccccck - sjc - boards & nails ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: hammers, boards and trees NJC [Steven Barton ] coffin vs crucifix [byron bentley ] Re: Joni Mitchell MP3 FTP Site! [Steven Barton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 04:43:23 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: the libras are coming njc guys, this is a true libran orgy. come on, other sun signs!!! only two capricorns? i don't buy it!!!! even if you know that i know your birthday and sun sign, e-mail me privately. i need your posts to feed the specific folders to count you. no arieses? where's catherine xena of aragon? where's michael paz? no virgoes? well, that isn't so hard to believe on this list, but still... wallyk, birth chart crazy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:21:39 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long Yes, CD's are definitely the way to go...I've been making both tapes and CD's for JMDLer's for awhile now, and I make 1 tape for every 100 CD's. Some good reasons: 1. You don't have to mess with "filler", the CD can be as long as it has to be 2. Better sound quality from copy to copy. That is, If I get a TAPE from a TAPE TREE, and make copies, it loses a generation, I add hiss, even a minute amount, and the next person has the same problem. 3. No Drop-outs on a CD 4. Ever try to find a particular track on a cassette tape? Nuff said! Anyway, there are some other reasons but I'll stop here. By the same token, some people prefer tapes, and they have their reasons, which is cool. As for the piracy issue, I would NEVER include a spoken "anti-piracy" speech in a CD! You can put a note on the cover or whatever, but the truth is that people who burn for profit will do so no matter what! I like Pearl Jam's response...they've released 28 live double concert CD's this week! That should hush the bootleggers for awhile! If anybody out there is interested in Joni CD's (or tapes), let me know as I;m happy to share! Take it off-list, Jim??? Never! I can assure you the trading is the reason LOTS of folks subscribe. Bob NP: Steely Dan, "Janie Runaway" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:53:36 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: To CD or not to CD Hi, JMDLers! :-) I sort of unceremoniously dropped out of sight the last couple of months, but I've been able to successfully lurk the *whole* time. I'm glad everybody that went had such a great time in Topsfield at the latest Joni Fest! On this CD Tree issue...in addition to the JMDL, I'm also subscribed to the Neil Young and Van Morrison lists. As with the JMDL, many other artists are discussed on each. The Van list, and even the Neil list, has put me in touch with people who share my love of jazz, for instance. CD trading on these lists is a major part of the action...constant "groveling" for this concert or that concert, or this artwork (for the CD inserts) or that artwork, all in good spirits and with a nice, staunchly-observed "not for profit" ethic. CDs of current and past concerts (these artists have been *well* documented), and unreleased rarities, have been actively and publicly traded on these lists now for several years, and the trading lists some people have amassed are astonishing. There are people on each list who seem to voluntarily monitor Ebay and the others, and they notify the site, the seller, and the bidders (in the latter case to point out that these CDs can be obtained free of charge from the Neil or Van communities). Their is less activity here than you might think...as we're not talking about Eminem or Brittany Spears here. I think that such artists with established careers and loyal followings understand that these recordings are sought only by their most devoted fans, who also eagerly purchase any new commercial releases. The artists also realize, I think, that because so much of their artistry is displayed to best effect in live performance, and because their concerts really *are* "performance pieces," which *do* vary from night to night (in terms of audience/artist vibe, the set list, whether the band is "on" or not), that it is only their true fans who are doing this, all of whom wish to closely follow the artists' careers without being able to travel with them everywhere and buy hundreds of concert tickets. I'd like to see the JMDL embrace the idea of open, not for profit CD trading of the non-commercial Joni library. I haven't seen the many illuminating Joni shows I've heard (thanks to a good guy and proud owner of a wonderful Joni CD library) on any trade lists, and I know it's not for lack of interest on the Neil and Van lists (where Joni has many fans who'd love to hear her concerts and rarities), and I'm sure on many other music lists. These are communities which, if anything, offer Joni increased popularity and a lot more "buzz." As many of you know, Pearl Jam has just released official, unedited and unsweetened recordings of every concert of their recent tour, at inexpensive prices. They've said publicly that they don't object to them being copies and traded among their fans. It's a strong statement from them, in the form of a gift. Many groups have followed in the footsteps of the Grateful Dead (which was really the model for all I've said in this post, now that I think about it), and have established "taping areas" at their concerts, where people can set up elaborate rigs. The bottom line is, I don't think reasonable artists object or consider "not for profit" trading less than a positive. It's like all their fans being able to go to all their shows, and to revisit periods in their performing careers which put their commercial releases in greater context, and give them greater resonance. In the case of Neil Young (and I could just as easily use Van Morrison as my example), so much happened on stage in the 80's, that illuminated and complemented such seemingly dismissive albums as Trans (techno), Old Ways (country), and This Note's For You (blues styles, with horns), that it's enriched my appreciation of those years, and those albums, to hear those concerts. My $.02 :-) "Boston Jim" Now About To Play: Joni, "Mingus In San Francisco," a 3-CD set (on the "Not For Profit" label) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:08:12 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Whoooo hooooo!!!(njc) Braves clinch 9th straight Division Title with a 7-1 win over the Mets! On to the playoffs!!! Victor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:14:14 EDT From: SAVtheWAVE@aol.com Subject: astrology censu NJC Wally, I tried emailing you privately , but it came back. Sorry to use the list for this. I am a libra ( in fact, my birthday is today). JOE in Rhode Island ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 06:47:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: The demise of DBX (NJC) I have at least 100 cassettes that I recorded during the 80s, mostly while I lived in Germany, using a roommate's deck and DBX noise reduction. I was so enamored of DBX at the time, I even bought a Kenwood car stereo with DBX. When I returned to the States, I bought a cheap Teac home deck that had DBX. Unfortunately the deck was ripped off (along with another roommate's entire Harmon/Kardon system, which is enough to make me teary-eyed to this day). I still have the Kenwood car stereo, but it's been in a box for at least 10 years and unless I install it in my car or get an AC/12VDC adapter and hook it up at home, I'm unable to listen to these tapes because (as any of you who've recorded with DBX know) you can't "decode" the tapes using any other noise reduction system -- what you get is a LOT of treble and tinniness. Does anyone know of a source for a DBX decoder, or a cassette deck with DBX? Are pawn shops my only hope? Wondering, Lori in DC NP: WXPN over the internet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:56:46 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Joni Mention in Chicago Tribune (+ freebies) Second page of today's Chicago Tribune The Inc. Spot Armour gets jazzy with Jenna Mammina "Among jazz purists, Mammina, 35, has made a name for herself because her musical style runs the gamut from old-school jazz to rock to folk. Mammina has her own label, Mamma Grace Records (jennamammina.com) on which she released her debut CD, "Under the Influence." She performs on Thursday for the "Have a heart for Sickle Cell Anemia" gala in the Skyline Room at Navy Pier. INC. - Your musical tastes are rather electic, from Elvis Costello and Lez Zeppelin to Nat "King" Cole and Abbey Lincoln. A - It comes from growing up in a musical family. My older brothrs and sister, they listened to groups like Led Zeppelin. I inherited those records. My mom sang Nat "King" Cole songs to me when I was little. I love the jazz standards and show tunes; Joni Mitchell, Elvis Costello and Yes. INC. - Yes? I've often felt that for a rock group, Yes Kicked free-form jazz up a notch. Some don't agree. I guess you either love them or hate them. A - (Laughs) I love Yes. My first rock concert when I was 9 years old was Yes. I was hooked. INC. - Any other favorites? A - Have you ever heard Sammy Cahn's "Dedicated to You"? (She begins to sing). Of course, Abbey Lincoln has been a great influence on me, in writing and as a person in life. INC. - Is so-called "smooth jazz" as strong as, say, what John Coltrane or Charlie "Bird" Parker did? A - Smooth jazz is a marketing machine, but traditional jazz is still out there, on a certain level, and with a vengeance. It's just not appreciated in the marketing sense. But more and more kids are coming up listening to Coltrane and Bird and saying, "I think THIS is what I want to do." **WARNING** NO JONI CONTENT BELOW................. 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Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:10:31 -0700 From: "Patrick Willoughby" Subject: FTR: the arbutus rustling Watching the ball bounce back and forth about coffins and crucifixes (I lean toward the latter interpretation, being a thoroughly lapsed Catholic...), I loved the transcription of Joni's story about the Arbutus tree. And in terms of sonority, madrona just doesn't have that lovely whispery, evening breeze sound that the word 'arbutus' does. And hey, she's a Canadian still, sort of, eh? Patrick in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:32:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: i'm baaaccccccck - sjc - boards & nails Hi people. It's me, Catherine in Toronto. I signed off as catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca sometime in Aug when I took vacation. When I signed back on (sometime this month, don't ask me when, because I have no idea), I went with an account I had created earlier, but then forgot the durn password (which is what you get for having too many accounts.) Anyway, anima_rising@yahoo.ca, c'est moi. Definitely more joni-oriented than catrin of blah-blah-blah. I've been enjoying the FTR discussion - FTR is definitely one of my favourites. I got the songbook for it and this is the first one that used some of Joni's open tunings, so I went nuts with it. The hammers and the boards and the nails. I love the many interpretations people bring to this. One of the reasons I love Joni's work so much is that it is open to different interpretations and I'm rather fond of double meanings in any case. I had always had an image of both crucifixion AND of boarding up the old building or plastering over the posters of the last up-and-coming star with those of the newest one. To which Paul added the coffin image, which is good too. Take care. Catherine anima_rising@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:32:00 +0100 From: "joe farrell" Subject: RE:tape/cd trees Count me in for new cd tree, also anything i can do to help re burning copies etc, be glad to do that for the UK listers Cheers, Joe. NP: Paul Simon: Obvious Child. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:45:10 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long I agree that CDs are the way to go for the next tree, BUT... At 7:21 AM -0400 9/27/00, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >2. Better sound quality from copy to copy. That is, If I get a TAPE from a >TAPE TREE, and make copies, it loses a generation, I add hiss, even a minute >amount, and the next person has the same problem. That's not true, just no generation lost in copying CDs. There is no sense in putting a tape onto CD unless you do some corrections on it: pitch, hiss, splicing two sides together, etc. Unless the tape is low generation there isn't any point in putting it on CD if it has a lot of hiss. >4. Ever try to find a particular track on a cassette tape? Nuff said! Yea, this is the only good reason for putting a tape onto CD, but what would be the point if some CD burners put those gaps inbetween tracks? When you put that on tape, it's extremely annoying to listen to, even on CD. NP-Rickie Lee Jones, Company - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ "Close it yourself, shitty!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:57:17 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long NJC <> The Philips burner I use does 'gap', however, the gap is only about 1/3 of a second...the average disc will have anywhere from 12 to 18 tracks on it, and the Philips adds about 3-4 seconds to the CD on average. Some of the CD's I've rec'd from a CD-write add a full 1-second gap between tracks, and I agree it's annoying. Not as much for me as I generally listen in shuffle mode anyway. When you copy those discs on the Philips it will actually DECREASE that gap from the full second to the shorter span, which is cool. In the end, I really don't care...the vast majority of Joni I get is on tapes, and I'll transfer it to CD regardless, and as you know am glad to make CD's or tapes, whichever is preferred...the important thing is getting it out there and shared, and my hat's off to you Mark for all you've done in this regard! Bob NP: REM, "HarborcOat" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:04:59 -0500 From: "Eric Wilcox" Subject: RE: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long You'll be hard-pressed to find a CD burner that cannot burn in DAO mode. Meaning, nowadays, all Computer-based CD burners have an option to burn shows WITHOUT the 2 second gap. Furthermore, in the past, we have ONLY allowed people that could burn WITHOUT gaps to be branches on the tree. There MUST be some Joni shows out there that originated in a digital format. Especially the more recent tours, IE BSN tour. I agree that it would be silly to copy tapes to CD. It *NEVER* turns out well. period. eric - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Mark Domyancich Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 2:45 PM To: SCJoniGuy@aol.com; edwilcox@students.wisc.edu; joni@smoe.org; jlamadoo@one.net Subject: Re: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long I agree that CDs are the way to go for the next tree, BUT... At 7:21 AM -0400 9/27/00, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >2. Better sound quality from copy to copy. That is, If I get a TAPE from a >TAPE TREE, and make copies, it loses a generation, I add hiss, even a minute >amount, and the next person has the same problem. That's not true, just no generation lost in copying CDs. There is no sense in putting a tape onto CD unless you do some corrections on it: pitch, hiss, splicing two sides together, etc. Unless the tape is low generation there isn't any point in putting it on CD if it has a lot of hiss. >4. Ever try to find a particular track on a cassette tape? Nuff said! Yea, this is the only good reason for putting a tape onto CD, but what would be the point if some CD burners put those gaps inbetween tracks? When you put that on tape, it's extremely annoying to listen to, even on CD. NP-Rickie Lee Jones, Company - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ "Close it yourself, shitty!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:17:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald Notaro (LIB)" Subject: RE: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long > I agree that it would be > silly to copy tapes to CD. It *NEVER* turns out well. period. > > eric Except for preservation purposes. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:16:21 -0500 From: "Eric Wilcox" Subject: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long However, its been my experience that there is a loss in quality when copying from tape to CD. Admittedly, my stereo hookup is by no means state-of-the-art--- but I've yet to hear a CD copy of a tape that lives up to even the TAPE'S standards. eric - -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Notaro (LIB) [mailto:notaro@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 3:17 PM To: Eric Wilcox Cc: JMDL; Mark Domyancich Subject: RE: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long > I agree that it would be > silly to copy tapes to CD. It *NEVER* turns out well. period. > > eric Except for preservation purposes. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:30:16 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: astrology censu NJC Well Happy Birthday Joe!!!! Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:33:26 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: RE: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long Really? Any burner produced in probably the past two years is capable of disc at once. There are three or four I can think of right now. Computer CD burners are the way to go, mainly because you have so much more control over what goes onto the CD. NP-New Bohemians, 4/26/87-Just This Way At 3:04 PM -0500 9/27/00, Eric Wilcox wrote: >You'll be hard-pressed to find a CD burner that cannot burn in DAO mode. >Meaning, nowadays, all Computer-based CD burners have an option to burn >shows WITHOUT the 2 second gap. Furthermore, in the past, we have ONLY >allowed people that could burn WITHOUT gaps to be branches on the tree. > >There MUST be some Joni shows out there that originated in a digital format. >Especially the more recent tours, IE BSN tour. I agree that it would be >silly to copy tapes to CD. It *NEVER* turns out well. period. > >eric - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ "Close it yourself, shitty!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:17:33 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Dar Williams recording, free, NJC If you are a Dar Williams fan, I have something interesting for you. Last week I recorded Dar's appearance on The World Cafe on America's national public radio. She talked with David Dye about her new band and the stories behind a few of the songs. She performed 6 songs in the studio (mostly new ones). Curiously, she never once complained about a lack of sales or air play, about being abused by music-business executives. She didn't even foretell the end of the world. :) Anyway, to get Dar on cassette, send me a 60 minute (or longer) cassette and return postage. Please respond by private email. (Colin- I'll make a free copy for you and absorb the postage in hopes of mending fences.) All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:46:31 -0600 From: Alison Subject: Re: astrology censu NJC Wishing the very happiest birthday to you Joe!!!! oh, how i loved playing your guitar, and spilling beer on you at atty may's ;-) ! and to the very many others experiencing birthdays this month as well. all the best, alison e. in slc. > From: SAVtheWAVE@aol.com > Reply-To: SAVtheWAVE@aol.com > Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:14:14 EDT > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: astrology censu NJC > > Wally, I tried emailing you privately , but it came back. Sorry to use the > list for this. I am a libra ( in fact, my birthday is today). > JOE in Rhode Island ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:46:58 -0500 From: "Eric Wilcox" Subject: RE: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long NJC Hmm.... You've got a point. The problem with Joni as opposed to more recent artists is that for the bulk of her carreer, digital recording devices were not available. Thus, most of the pre 1990s shows we have from Joni are analog only. If someone takes a lot of care in the transfer-- I suppose it may be worth it. But the transfer process has a great tendency to sound like crap in the end. At least, that's my experience. So someone is going to have to take the time to do it right. eric - -----Original Message----- From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com [mailto:SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 3:38 PM To: edwilcox@students.wisc.edu; joni@smoe.org; harpua@revealed.net Subject: RE: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long NJC <> I dunno, Eric, but I'll bet I've got some happy Jonifans around the world that would disagree with THAT statement... besides, if you get hung up on the audiophile BS, you lose the sense of JOY that comes from listening and sharing the songs, the Arbutus stories, the jokes, the bloopers, etc. The bulk of the CD's I have are ones I mastered from cassette tapes, and I think they sound great! But maybe I'm not listening for the same things you are... Bob NP: REM, "Feeling Gravitys Pull" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:22:07 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: i'm baaaccccccck - sjc - boards & nails Welcome back Catherine! I was wondering where you were. I was almost tempted to post, Hey does anyone know what happened to our Catherine? Where she be? Anyway, glad to have you amongst us again, as you were missed. I always enjoy your wit. Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:32:06 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long In a message dated 9/26/2000 11:27:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, edwilcox@students.wisc.edu writes: << NOW. Honestly, I doubt that Joni bootlegs would be this much in-demand. Tori Amos is about at the height of her popularity right now. Though, the possibility exists that Joni shows can fall into the wrong hands and get abused. The key is that we all work to make sure the trees are well-publicized and that anyone who wants a copy can find a place to obtain one without paying ~$25 per CD. >> FYI..Joni show of the Second Fret Sets has gone for well over $100.00 in the past. I had offered free ones to bidders with just postage and blanks. There is a demand for Joni and people will pay plenty. catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:03:14 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Dare I Say It?? "CD Tree"?..... Long << Joni show of the Second Fret Sets has gone for well over $100.00 in the past. I had offered free ones to bidders with just postage and blanks. >> Catgirl has definitely done her fair share of sharing too...thanks Catgirl for all the treasures you've shared with me! In regards to the E-bay thing though, I think it's foolish for us to try and police E-bay. Twice I've jumped in and told bidders for Second Frets and Club 47 CD's that I'd burn copies for them for blanks & postage. Both times I was basically told to f*ck off, which I was more than happy to do as it was the best sex I could hope for at the time! :~) Joni's not making any revenue off of any of this. I wish, like Jim, that we'd get treated to a rarities boxset ala Springsteen, CSNY, Dylan, and many others. The market is definitely there for someone of Joni's stature to release a 4-CD compilation of demo's, early songs, whatever...Joni calls Hits & Misses her boxset, so she's not looking at it from this angle. Anyway, in an E-bay exchange, presumably both parties are happy with the exchange, right? I mean, a person wouldn't enter a bid for something if they didn't WANT to pay that price. So if some guy is happy paying $100 for Second Frets, and the seller is happy (for obvious reasons), and Joni's not gonna make anything regardless, where's the harm? Just sorta speaking rhetorically here... btw, I've never bought or sold anything on E-bay. I do go look at the Joni stuff just to see what's out there from time to time... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:39:13 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: ebay (NJC) > > btw, I've never bought or sold anything on E-bay. I do go look at the Joni > stuff just to see what's out there from time to time... > > Bob . I bid on Ebay for the first time last week. I was bidding on a mint condition Ernie hand puppet. I bid 3.00 dollars and went to work and later found I was outbid by 1 dollar. oh well...back to the thrift stores...:>) Victor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:21:07 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: astrology censu NJC well happy birthday, joe!!!!! and remember, rhode island is famous for you! wallyk - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: Para: Enviado: Miércoles 27 de Septiembre de 2000 09:14 Asunto: astrology censu NJC > Wally, I tried emailing you privately , but it came back. Sorry to use the > list for this. I am a libra ( in fact, my birthday is today). > JOE in Rhode Island > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:37:39 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: an odd joni book on eBay All this talk about eBay and Joni led me to check out what's there now. I found this odd item, a book called Joni Mitchell Both Sides Now. You can find it at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=446502383 I've never heard this book discussed on the list before, but it's a hardcover with some tacky-looking butterfly illustrations by Alan Baker. Here's the info from eBay: "Alan Baker's delightful illustrations transform Joni Mitchell's words into the beguiling tale of two caterpillars about to become butterflies." Beautiful color pictures on every page. Hardcover book is in perfect condition, light wear to the dust jacket. Winning bidder pays $2.50 S/H. I accept money orders, checks, or V/MC with PayPal. Good luck! I'm not interested in buying the book, but I thought some rabid JMDL Joni collectors might be. This auction closes on 9/29, and the current bid is $1.00. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:45:26 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: i'm baaaccccccck - sjc - boards & nails at last catherine!!!!!!!!! this list was getting so mellow! we missed the acid rain... wallyk, who loves fearless catherine and believes she's actually xena in disguise - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Catherine McKay" Para: Enviado: Miércoles 27 de Septiembre de 2000 16:32 Asunto: i'm baaaccccccck - sjc - boards & nails > Hi people. It's me, Catherine in Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:36:54 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: the sign count (NJC) only 60 replies??? what's wrong, folks? like, you weren't born???????????? wallyk, pushing it ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:57:55 -0700 From: Steven Barton Subject: Re: hammers, boards and trees NJC SMEBD@aol.com wrote: > > Count me in too. If it is decided to do CDs v. tape, I'll volunteer as a > branch. I'll branch too! (if it is CD) (BTW--I've got some discs spinning for you right now, Stephen.) Sincerley, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:40:05 -0700 From: byron bentley Subject: coffin vs crucifix From the first listen to FTR, I interpreted the line about hammers, boards and nails as tools and materials for coffin building. When this thread started I opened my mind to suggestions. I like the boarded up house idea, but the crucifixion never occurred to me. It seems like a crucifixion would be more publicity than the industry is willing to support at this point in the song. I feel that those with the slices from the company are more into shelving away or considering the presence of hammers, boards and nails suitable for a coffin, burying the character in the song. I was surprised how most thought crucifix. Makes me realize how wrong you all are ..Just kidding. Great discussion. Byron NP: Emmylou Harris - September 26, 2000 The Fillmore, San Francisco ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:05:16 -0700 From: Steven Barton Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell MP3 FTP Site! How can I obtain an FTP client and where can I read more about them? Steve Andrew Baio wrote: > > Okay, the MP3 FTP site is all set up. Just > fire up your favorite FTP client (CuteFTP, > Fetch, WS-FTP, etc.) and head to: > ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #518 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?