From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #481 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Saturday, September 2 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 481 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Dark Secrets VLJC [Slac ] Fest News [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Dark Secrets NJC [dsk ] Re: Philistines (NJC) ["Steve Mitchell" ] Re: Dark Secrets NJC [dsk ] Gabriel Byrne NJC [Joseph Palis ] Buying a Joni or two [dsk ] Re: Gabriel Byrne NJC [dsk ] Re: Gabriel Byrne before Kim B. now NJC [Joseph Palis ] dark secrets (njc) [evian ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:43:09 -0700 From: Slac Subject: Re: Dark Secrets VLJC Debra wrote of Gabriel Byrne: > He's craggy looking, and intense, and is probably > cranky too That's okay: charge him $500 an hour...your time is valuable ;~) "...she comes from a school of southern charm she likes to have things her own way any man in the world holding out his arm will be made to pay..."-Thanks Joni darlin' ;~) And thanks Brenda, Catman, Azeem and Heather for the Gabby Road Trivia! Tell us about the reading Catman? - -- Susan L.A. I am your angel ;~) HARLEY PARKING ONLY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 22:27:35 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Fest News Just a quick hi from New England Jonifest 2000 Central. People have been arriving in the Boston are since Wednesday. So far, Chuck, Maggie, Jimmy, Nikki, Victor, Evie, Les, Leslie and Steve Mixon, John van Tiel, Kenny, Brian Gross, Mags, Bob Muller, Bob Murphy, Wally K., and Claud have arrived. Expecting many more later tonight and tomorrow. We are eating very well, playing lots and LOTS of music, talking a LOT, and MISSING ALL OF YOU!!!!! Next year....... :-) More to come! Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 23:07:24 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Dark Secrets NJC Slac wrote: > And thanks Brenda, Catman, Azeem and Heather for the Gabby Road Trivia! > Tell us about the reading Catman? I'll add my thanks for the list of movies I'm going to be renting soon. :-) It wasn't until seeing Gabs in person that he became so intriguing to me. And yes, Colin, please do tell us about the reading. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 04:21:44 +0100 From: "Steve Mitchell" Subject: Re: Philistines (NJC) Mmmm, I saw Vanessa Redgrave playing Prospero at Shakespeare's Globe Theatre in London - good job I wasn't wearing any socks! - -- Stevie - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Dulson" To: Sent: 31 August 2000 15:52 Subject: Philistines (NJC) > Azeem wrote: > > >I think Anthony Hopkins is an overrated ham! > > I saw him on stage in LA, playing Prospero in The Tempest, and it > knocked my socks off. He *is* a great actor. > > >I've never voluntarily read...Shakespeare > > Duh! You're not supposed to read him - see a production on stage! > > Willy the Shake rules, man! :) > -- > > ######################################################### > Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com > "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com > "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ > "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 00:33:31 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Dark Secrets NJC AzeemAK@aol.com wrote: > All I was doing was laying my foibles open, without excuse or explanation - > throwing myself on the mercy of the JMDL, and hoping against hope for > forgiveness! I feel I have been fairly treated, and of course can now travel > lighter having disencumbered myself of the weighty burden of my dark Phil > Collins secret. How was it for you lot?? It feels so good to know that some things don't ever have to be said again :-) Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:33:10 +0800 (JST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Gabriel Byrne NJC ... as well as in LITTLE WOMEN (Mr. Bhaer), POINT OF NO RETURN (with Bridget Fonda) a.k.a. THE ASSASSIN in its international release, SMILLA'S SENSE OF SNOW and that film about Ireland that features his ex-wife Ellen Barkin, and has a mythological horse as ints centerpiece. But the first film I watched that featured him was in Ralph Bakshi's COOL WORLD with Kim Basinger who portrayed a Jessica Rabbit-like cartoon character and an unknown actor named Brad Pitt who had a brief but scene-stealing scene in THELMA AND LOUISE... (who would have thought that he will be bigger than anyone in the years to come) To paraphrase George Orwell: "All actors are gifted but some are more gifted than the others. Gabriel Byrne is definitely one of those more gifted. Joseph (a big fan of European cinema in general and of Brit films in particular, esp. Ken Loach's and Mike Leigh's) On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, Brenda J. Walker wrote: > He was also in "The Usual Suspects" with Kevin Spacey....great movie.... > > catman wrote: > > > dsk wrote: > > > > > Slac wrote: > > > > > > > Debra wrote: > > > > > > > > > 2. I'm sure that Gabriel Byrne is the sexiest man alive. > > > > > > > > Who is Gabriel Byrne? > > > > > > A dark haired Irish actor who I saw on Broadway in a Eugene O'Neill play a > > > couple of months ago. He's craggy looking, and intense, and is probably > > > cranky too, and normally has an Irish accent, and, oh, I don't know, all > > > that just does something to me... > > > > He is as Debra describes. he also stars in STIGMATA and THE THREE MUSKETEERS. > > My claim to fame is I once did him a reading by proxy about 8 years ago. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 01:07:30 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Buying a Joni or two John, not Richard Rice, wrote: > Did you make it up to Sk'toon? There are several prints on exhibition from the > Hejira series. Really haunting stuff. It's incredible to realize that > beautiful album cover was but ONE of an amazing series of images. --and I > suspect there are far more than what was exhibited at the Mendel. Assuming > these prints were done in a series, there are enough of them out there for > EVERYONE on this list to own a Joni original! And we won't have to pay 30 > grand plus either. I would put the cost of a Hejira print, signed at about 2 > grand. So, Let's buy several, eh? > > (Someone pleaaaaaase contact the Mendel.) Perhaps we can get a group rate??? Maybe we could all chip in and buy one or two at a group rate and let them travel around to our different homes for set periods of time. Isn't there some sports prize that is shared that way? And then we can take photographs of the photographs on the wall in our home and let them travel too -- a little Joni, a little bit of ourselves. Hmm, there are possibilities here. No, I didn't go to Saskatoon because I expect the show to get closer to NY sometime. After reading the positive article in the NYTimes last week, it seems as though a respectful atmosphere for her work is being set up so my guess is there will be a show here in about a year and a half, with a good reception instead of the usual "oh great, another rich famous person doing some dabbling and getting lots of attention" reception celebrities usually get. And referring back to that article, even though the thread about it was a while ago (sorry, I was out of town last week), calling her a naive artist wasn't at all disrespectful. It just means an artist who doesn't have formal art training, which most of the artists in museums and galleries have had. Joni did go to art school for a year, but even she says she didn't learn anything. Whatever the program of study was, apparently she wasn't interested in it. So "naive" artists usually work independently of art history and current trends and often use materials in unusual ways, and now that naive art is a unique category, there are collectors that prefer owning such work. So to call Joni a worldy naive artist is not a putdown. The whole article was very respectful of her and her painting and I think it was a good set-up for a show in NYC eventually. Debra Shea P.S. All of this is just filler of course until the jonifest info starts pouring in :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 01:15:09 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Gabriel Byrne NJC Joseph Palis wrote: > But the first > film I watched that featured him was in Ralph Bakshi's COOL WORLD with Kim > Basinger who portrayed a Jessica Rabbit-like cartoon character Well, I have to see this right away! I love Kim Basinger! She is so honest and emotionally naked even though she's often in not-very-good movies. Gabriel and Kim in the same movie, wow. When does the video store open I wonder.... do I really have to work tomorrow? Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 13:17:51 +0800 (JST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Re: Gabriel Byrne before Kim B. now NJC Kim Basinger also sings incredibly well. Better than Michelle Pfeiffer. Much better than Meryl Streep, and much much better than *runs for cover* Madonna, IMHO. Her singing in COOL WORLD was as good as in THE MARRYING MAN (released internationally as TOO HOT TO HANDLE). Kim B. has some good moments in film, but IMHO, it should have been Joan Cusack up there at the Oscar stage for IN & OUT than Kim in LA CONFIDENTIAL (a film I like). Joseph On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, dsk wrote: > Joseph Palis wrote: > > > But the first > > film I watched that featured him was in Ralph Bakshi's COOL WORLD with Kim > > Basinger who portrayed a Jessica Rabbit-like cartoon character > > Well, I have to see this right away! I love Kim Basinger! She is so honest and > emotionally naked even though she's often in not-very-good movies. Gabriel and Kim > in the same movie, wow. > > When does the video store open I wonder.... do I really have to work tomorrow? > > Debra Shea > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 23:38:36 -0700 From: "Patrick Willoughby" Subject: dinner for eight and more Greetings to JM admirers, from Vancouver. New to list, observing for a while, but couldn't resist the dinner thread... 1. Dinner table to include, at some secluded spot in the West End of my lovely town: 1. Miss JM of course 2. Don Freed (out of courtesy to Herself) 3. Sting (to get him to acknowledge his debt to Joni, finally...) 4. Pat Metheny 5. My brother Mark (plays sax and bass) 6. My friend Leah (who's seen me through "all these highs and lows") 7. My friend Carol from Saskatune... 8. My next boyfriend (as in "all I wanna do right now is find another lover...") 2. Songs I like to perform from JM repertoire: Hejira, when my vocal bandwith is up to it; Just Like This Train, for the whimsy, although I do it in regular open C, to avoid the fiddling; and usually for myself only, Magdalene Laundries, again in open C--the gender switch is weird, but it's so very cathartic--one of her greatest songs, I think. 3. As for me, I first heard her debut album in 1970, and have pursued her work rigorously ever since. I started to understand some of the tuning structures a few years later, but am much indebted to the jmdl tuning database for broadening my scope. I met JM this summer in Saskatoon when there for her art show. She's a very gracious, and intent, listener. Would love to hear from some of the folks I met there briefly who were part of the jmdl contingent--I didn't have time to take down personal email info. Ciao. PatrickW. Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 00:43:48 -0600 From: evian Subject: dark secrets (njc) Well, yet again I haven't read a damn digest all week because I was out of town for a few days, but I just clicked on one and am reading this dark secrets thread and laughing my ass off. Anyway, might as well throw in a few of my own: 1.) Valley Girl is my favorite movie. 2.) I have this weird fascination with reading "Danny Orlis" books -- these hokey, fundamentalist YA novels written in the 50's and 60's (those kids were gonna burn in hell if they danced!) 3.) I wouldn't know a dulcimer if it kicked me in the ass. 4.) I eat steak fat. 5.) I have a Faith Hill cd and a Tim McGraw MP3. 6.) Courtney Love turns me on like you wouldn't believe. 7.) I've got an irrational fear of bees, wasps, and hornets -- I mean, the stop-the-car-and-run-the-hell-away-down-the-sidewalk kind of fear. 8.) I am turning into my father. Happy Long Weekend kids! Rob np: "He Hit Me" -- Hole ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #481 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?