From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #467 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Saturday, August 26 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 467 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Rolling Stone Thread Research, NJC, Librarian Needed ["Kakki" ] Your Record Thread Poll (NJC) ["c Karma" ] Re: Your Record Thread Poll (NJC) ["Victor Johnson" ] Omni-something is our Joni ["william" ] RE: Your Record Thread Poll (NJC) ["Eric Wilcox" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:41:18 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Rolling Stone Thread Research, NJC, Librarian Needed Jim wrote: > Hey, I'm with you on this- not against you! My tone was >way back here: I know you're with Joni on this, but to ask for fairness for Rolling Stone in this instance? Nah... RS models itself as a bastion of informational hipness on all things musical. They brought in Beavis and Butthead on this one. Kakki, who also once abandoned her good breeding and threw a beer - must be the Irish blood ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:19:09 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Music Slut (NJC) Steve said he couldn't stand the thought of passing up a local Richard Thompson concert, so he's springing for the tickets. Concerts coming up in Santa Cruz that I'll be attending: Rickie Lee Jones Dan Hicks & His Hot Licks Richard Thompson Herbie Hancock & Wayne Shorter Brian Wilson (the Pet Sounds tour)* Mountain Winery - Saratoga I'll try and be a good JMDLer and submit reports. Who better to brag to than my fellow JMDLers? Leslie feeling more like a music slut every minute - wishing I had a portable minidisc recorder. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 04:40:51 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: Your Record Thread Poll (NJC) I had a strange parenting experience this week. I heard my 5 year old son singing "(Can't Get No) Satisfaction" while he was drawing and immediately was filled with pride at the thought of having imbued my offspring with knowledge of seminal rock and roll. My moment of smugness was immediately shattered when he added a strange, unknown descant to replace the "no, no, no." I looked quizzically at Mrs. who immediately cast the blame upon Britney Spears. I recoiled in horror at the thought of Nic associating that song with Spears and not the Glimmer Twins, the heinous equivalent of calling The Beatles "Paul McCartney's old band." I am especially attached to that song, since it was on the first album I ever owned, given to me by my brother for Christmas in 1965. Mrs. admonished me, "What do you expect? We haven't played the Stones in awhile." So of course my new personal crusade is to make a special effort to expose my kids to more of what I think was good stuff BEFORE it gets recycled into 21st century pop. To that end, I thought it would be fun to see what kind of music people on the list were exposed to at early ages. Joni and Larry Klein went back into their parents' record collections to help devise the musical arc that became BSN, so I propose the following thread poll: Name the first record, 1. You owned. 2. You bought. 3. You remember parents or guardians playing. 4. The cover art of which struck early interest for you. 5. You played over and over. (not necessarily yours) Please, please try to keep your answers to one per category. It's very cleansing. I'll go first -- Owned: The Rolling Stones "Out Of Our Heads" Bought: The Supremes "Come See About Me" (single) Parents/guardians: Bing Crosby's Sing Along Cover art: Connie Francis Sings Italian Hits (very colorful portrait depicting Connie in Venice, wearing straw hat) or Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass "Whipped Cream and Other Delights" ;-) Over and Over: The Drifters "Up On The Roof" Regress with me, won't you? CC "The moon clock wanes and waxes - But here all time is stripped away" -- JM ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 00:53:31 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Your Record Thread Poll (NJC) > 1. You owned. John Denver Rocky Mountain High > 2. You bought. Def Leppard Pyromania > 3. You remember parents or guardians playing. Peter Paul and Mary Peter Paul and Mommy > 4. The cover art of which struck early interest for you. Jethro Tull Thick as a Brick > 5. You played over and over. (not necessarily yours) Rush A Farewell to Kings ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 01:33:30 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Your Record Thread Poll (NJC) Name the first record 1. You owned. "A Little White Duck" 2. You bought. "Travelin' Man" by Ricky Nelson 3. You remember parents or guardians playing. Lawrence Welk 4. The cover art of which struck early interest for you. "Meet the Beatles" (With its stark black and white photo of those loveable mop tops!) 5. You played over and over. "A Little White Duck" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 01:38:09 -0500 From: "Michael Bird" Subject: lyrics to "talk to me" I'd like to stick up for "Talk to Me" and interpret it as a smart, playful song full of teasing and good humor rather than anger. Joni's anger comes across with vitriol in so many other songs -- "No Apologies" comes to mind, as do "The Windfall" and "Number One" not to mention the political stuff from DED. These excellent verses in "Talk to Me" poking a finger at The Silent One are delivered in a conversational, energetic tone, as if to a frustrating friend -- she precedes the lines quoted below with a couple of silly jokes (the giggly "Willy the Shake") and actually laughs at the end after the wonderful "chicken squawkin'" (a great contrast to Hejira's wistful "chicken scratchin'"). The musical arrangement on this track, too, is rollicking and good-natured. I think she's only teasing, playfully calling a friend to task for being difficult. It's not until later that the cart is upset, during "Jericho," when she reflects on the disappointments involved in friendship, "when you just can no longer pretend that you're getting what you need." Nickel Chief > "Is your silence that golden? > Are you comfortable in it? > Is it the key to your freedom, > or is it the bars on your prison? > Are you gagged by your ribbons? > Are you really exclusive, or just miserly? > You spend every sentence as if it was > marked currency!" > > Someone offered these lines as an example of well expressed anger. I agree, > but what does the line "Are you gagged by your ribbons?" mean? > All ideas welcome, > Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:34:20 +0700 From: "william" Subject: Omni-something is our Joni Like old Crusoe Butterscotch Half a million Frying pan Elephant ivories Full length mink Paint a Starry Night again Vain promises Store front mannequin Tenth floor balcony The cock-eyed plan Here endeth ...... Joni Mitchell's words are omni-something in my life. A word, a line, a stanza, whatever, conjures up, oftener than daily, a propensity to hum out loud. Favourite lyrics to me is like asking me what my favourite oxygen is. I breathe Joni's work and gasp. Sans doute ichi ban tsuki desu (just for our Japanese listers). The generals offered no apologies. What does that mean? Good friends you and me. Willy the Shake NP - and hearing new bits in Cold Blue Steel. Such a difference between loud music and music being played loud. Does it really matter? Almost in tears listening to this. Down the dark ladder. Come with me I know the way. Here comes Barangrill. Till I get back from the therapist. I gotta talk about my eyelids being painted green. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 01:47:19 -0500 From: "Eric Wilcox" Subject: RE: Your Record Thread Poll (NJC) My lord! A friend of mine has that Herb Alpert album. Its one of our favorites to put on for our little get-togethers. I'm much younger-- I was a young lad in the 80s. So I've got some interesting albums: Owned: the Beatles - The White Album Bought: Depeche Mode - Violator (it was the new wave era, people... ) Parents: Chicago - Their first album. Cover Art: The Beatles - yellow submarine. Over and Over: Chicago's 1979 single, "Street Player" (Thank god I grew out of that disco stuff) I raided my parent's Beatles LPs for years. And my father was and is a huge fan of Chicago. the first slabum I bought was on tape. yuck. ;) eric - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of c Karma Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 11:41 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Your Record Thread Poll (NJC) I had a strange parenting experience this week. I heard my 5 year old son singing "(Can't Get No) Satisfaction" while he was drawing and immediately was filled with pride at the thought of having imbued my offspring with knowledge of seminal rock and roll. My moment of smugness was immediately shattered when he added a strange, unknown descant to replace the "no, no, no." I looked quizzically at Mrs. who immediately cast the blame upon Britney Spears. I recoiled in horror at the thought of Nic associating that song with Spears and not the Glimmer Twins, the heinous equivalent of calling The Beatles "Paul McCartney's old band." I am especially attached to that song, since it was on the first album I ever owned, given to me by my brother for Christmas in 1965. Mrs. admonished me, "What do you expect? We haven't played the Stones in awhile." So of course my new personal crusade is to make a special effort to expose my kids to more of what I think was good stuff BEFORE it gets recycled into 21st century pop. To that end, I thought it would be fun to see what kind of music people on the list were exposed to at early ages. Joni and Larry Klein went back into their parents' record collections to help devise the musical arc that became BSN, so I propose the following thread poll: Name the first record, 1. You owned. 2. You bought. 3. You remember parents or guardians playing. 4. The cover art of which struck early interest for you. 5. You played over and over. (not necessarily yours) Please, please try to keep your answers to one per category. It's very cleansing. I'll go first -- Owned: The Rolling Stones "Out Of Our Heads" Bought: The Supremes "Come See About Me" (single) Parents/guardians: Bing Crosby's Sing Along Cover art: Connie Francis Sings Italian Hits (very colorful portrait depicting Connie in Venice, wearing straw hat) or Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass "Whipped Cream and Other Delights" ;-) Over and Over: The Drifters "Up On The Roof" Regress with me, won't you? CC "The moon clock wanes and waxes - But here all time is stripped away" -- JM ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 23:59:29 -0700 From: Slac Subject: Stoning the Grinch Pat wrote: > 1. i think it would really cool to watch the grinch who stole > christmas...stoned. maybe smoke a bong with some apricot brandy Sounds great to me! When are ya pickin' me up? ;~D On a more serious note: How does getting stoned affect your perception? How does it make you feel? For myself, the world is rose misting horny and I have an appetite for everything...well, almost everything :~D I bet the Grinch has never smoked! - -- Susan L.A. I am your angel ;~) HARLEY PARKING ONLY ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #467 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?