From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #459 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Sunday, August 20 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 459 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Mendel Today! ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Hello JMDL [byron bentley ] Re: Hello JMDL [Deb Messling ] Re: which song 4 ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Re: which song 4 [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Mendel Today! ["Steve Mitchell" ] Re: The Clavinet NJC ["Steve Mitchell" ] Re: which song 4 ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Hello JMDL! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] difficult live list... ["Christopher J. Treacy" ] vigorous anonimity ["Christopher J. Treacy" ] Just Ice guitar question ["James Phillips" ] Re: Hello JMDL [Mark Domyancich ] tileset [GREYC1@aol.com] Re: Happy Birthday (NJC) [claud9 ] Re: Thanks to Jimdlers (extremely NjC) ["Joni Fan" ] Passion Play (When All The Slaves Are Free) ["Linda Montelione" ] Where's Robin? ["Christopher J. Treacy" ] Gryphon & Richard Harvey NJC [john low ] Strange Symbols NJC [john low ] Tony Bennett sings Joni ? ["Eric Wilcox" ] Re: Passion Play (When All The Slaves Are Free) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Life's too short! (NJC) ["Lori R. Fye" ] $10 JMDL Fundraiser- McCartney Fans, Take Note; NJC I suppose.... ["J] New Code Necessary? NJC....... 100% NPC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Strange Symbols NJC [susan+rick ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:53:43 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Mendel Today! Just wanted to say that I received my Mendel Book and Posters Today!!! How did they know it was my birthday? Jamie Zoob :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 01:55:55 -0700 From: byron bentley Subject: Hello JMDL I have been lurking for a few weeks and it's finally time to say hello to everyone. I have been really enjoying the discussions. The interpretations of lyrics have been very interesting. I have reconsidered some of my own initial ideas after reading some of the posts. I love that about Joni's writing. I have been listening to her music for more than 25 years and her work never stops developing. I can think that I know one of her songs inside and out, when suddenly I am struck with a whole new image. I gather from recent postings that "A Strange Boy" and "Blue Motel Room" have not been heard live. I have seen Joni seven times. I have also collected live material when I can find it. There are some songs I have never heard her do, other than studio recordings, and I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they have ever been performed at a concert or appearance. 1. Man From Mars 2. The Sire of Sorrow (Job's Sad Song) 3. The Windfall (Everything for Nothing) 4. Nothing Can Be Done 5. Two Gray Rooms 6. A Bird That Whistles 7. The Beat of Black Wings 8. The Tea Leaf Prophecy (Lay Down Your Arms) 9. Impossible Dreamer 10. Chair in the Sky 11. Sweet Sucker Dance 12. Off Night Back Street 13. Court and Spark 14. Down to You 15. Car on a Hill 16. River Any information will be appreciated. Later, Byron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 05:49:13 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Hello JMDL Welcome to the list, Byron. At 01:55 AM 8/19/00 -0700, you wrote: >I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they have ever been performed at a >concert or >appearance. > >16. River River has been performed live and appeared on one of the early tape trees - tree #2, I think. See http://www.jmdl.com/trading/ for details! Deb Messling messling@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~messling/ ~I like cats. They give the home a heartbeat. / Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:57:12 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Re: which song 4 Lesson In Survival - For The Roses! Helllloooooo Colin!!! Jamie Zoob - ----- Original Message ----- From: catman To: joni Sent: 19 August 2000 02:13 Subject: which song 4 > 'and a river flowin' free' > > -- > why are they called apartments when they are all stuck together? > http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html > http://www.tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 06:03:45 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: which song 4 In a message dated 8/19/00 5:59:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jamiezoob@freeuk.com writes: << Lesson In Survival - For The Roses! > 'and a river flowin' free' >> Lesson in Survival has the line: "by a river flowin' you and me deep kisses and the sun going down." But that is NOT a match. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:47:06 +0100 From: "Steve Mitchell" Subject: Re: Mendel Today! Excellent!! Many Happy Returns - also many happy page turns too! - -- Stevie - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Zubairi" To: "JMDL" Sent: 19 August 2000 09:53 Subject: Mendel Today! > Just wanted to say that I received my Mendel Book and Posters Today!!! How > did they know it was my birthday? > > > Jamie Zoob :-) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:06:02 +0100 From: "Steve Mitchell" Subject: Re: The Clavinet NJC Perhaps Paul means the clavichord? - -- Stevie - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john low" To: Cc: Sent: 16 August 2000 05:15 Subject: The Clavinet NJC > > >It's a NEW instrument? For some reason, I thought the clavinet was > something > >akin to a harpsichord, if not in sound, at least in age or period. > > > >Paul I > > Paul, according to the Grove Dictionary of Musical Instruments it's "a > five-octave electronic keyboard instrument ... manufactured by Hohner > in Trossingen since around 1960." The sound is percussive and > resembles the clavichord, an instrument that HAS been around since at > least the 15th century. > > How's that for information from a non-musician! Lucky I work in a > library and can race out and look it up so quickly! :-) > > John (in Sydney). > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:53:50 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Re: which song 4 After wracking my brains and going through my entire collection it isn't a Joni song but one of her reworkings of 'Cool Water'. The reason I couldn't hear it in my head is cuz Joan doesn't actually sing it, but Willie Nelson speak-sings it in his own style. Much Joni Jamie Zoob Ok, here's one for you: 'In this vigorous anonymity' - ----- Original Message ----- From: catman To: joni Sent: 19 August 2000 02:13 Subject: which song 4 > 'and a river flowin' free' > > -- > why are they called apartments when they are all stuck together? > http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html > http://www.tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:15:06 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Hello JMDL! Hi Byron, and welcome to the JMDL! I don't know if she has or hasn't performed all the songs on your list, but I've got some live versions of these: << 9. Impossible Dreamer 10. Chair in the Sky 15. Car on a Hill 16. River >> Will gladly trade for a live version of "Paprika Plains" which you must have since it wasn't on your list! :~D Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:59:49 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: difficult live list... Byron wrote: There are some songs I have never heard her do, other than studio recordings, and I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they have ever been performed at a concert or appearance. Well, of your selections, I can only confirl 3; A Chair in the Sky, Car on a Hill, and River. Of the minimal touring that's been done since 1988, thje year of "Chalkmark," a lot of the 80's material has been left untouced as far as bringing them out live. Best I can do. Email me if you want more info. Thanks -Chris. NP: Joni - "Heard it Through the Grapevine" Pittsburgh '83. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:18:28 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: vigorous anonimity It' "Song for Sharon"1 "In this vigorous anonmity, a blank face at the window stares and stares and stares.." -Chris. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:47:30 GMT From: "James Phillips" Subject: Just Ice guitar question I have a question for anyone in the know. What guitar(s) is Joni playing on the "Just Ice" show? I'm just kinda curious..... James Phillips now playing: "Ghostyhead" by Rickie Lee Jones ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:58:28 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Hello JMDL At 1:55 AM -0700 8/19/00, byron bentley wrote: >10. Chair in the Sky This was played at Bread and Roses in 1978 and the Playboy Jazz Festival, 6/15/79. >11. Sweet Sucker Dance I would do anything to hear this one live... my favorite on Mingus >12. Off Night Back Street Same-o... >13. Court and Spark Well, I guess Michael P never got back to Bob on this one... I doubt if it was really played on the 1983 tour >15. Car on a Hill On some of the first leg of the 1974 tour (February, March) >16. River 1970 BBC tape that was treed. NP-Mingus, Chair In The Sky - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ "Close it yourself, shitty!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:00:25 EDT From: GREYC1@aol.com Subject: tileset I'm sorry to request this, but someone posted a couple of weeks ago about a Joni tileset. I saved the initial email and thought that I was being very careful not to accidentally delete it but, guess what?? I deleted it!! So, would whomever posted it originally be so kind as to email me the info. Thank you so much. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:25:31 -0400 From: claud9 Subject: Re: Happy Birthday (NJC) Hi Kakki Thanks to Michael I too can wish you an ever so Happy Fucking Birthday ... You go, girl, live it up with plenty of Martinis ;-))) There is no time like now ... or NO or Boston ... Can't wait to hang out together again -- as long as we are both covered with bugspray we should be fine ;-))) Have a wonderful, wonderful day!!!!!!! hugs, claud ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 19:30:07 GMT From: "Joni Fan" Subject: Re: Thanks to Jimdlers (extremely NjC) Joseph, I think we all must be releasing a joint sigh of relief for you. "Hearts of the many caring; bandaged by the few. The thread of Joni's words weave us into the common bond." Thank you for your beautiful, Joseph. Tears visited my eyes. Loree ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:49:13 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy Birthday (NJC) Kakki: I want to join in the Happy Birthday To You chorus! I do hope it's a great one. "And the seasons, they go round and round..." You are someone so very special and I am so very glad you're a part of our family here. May all the best this life has to offer be your today, and always. I'll see you in September... - -Julius NP: The Byrds "Turn, turn, turn" in Kakki's honor. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 16:27:51 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday (NJC) Kakki, A great big Happy Fucking Birthday to you!!! Victor....see you in a couple of weeks! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:03:24 -0400 From: "Linda Montelione" Subject: Passion Play (When All The Slaves Are Free) Although it's been nearly nine years since NRH was released, I'm still not certain that I understand what Passion Play (When All The Slaves Are Free) is all about. There are so many references to, even quotes from, Catholicism and Christianity in this song. I know these tend to pop up elsewhere in Joni's lyrics, but they're really strong here. "Never before was a man so kind...so redeeming"; Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done"; "He sees a stray in the wilderness, I see how far I've wandered"; "The killer nails are ringing". Then there are the lines "In Exxon blue, In radiation rose"...??? I have a few ideas about this song, but as I said, I don't feel certain that I get it. Help! Please! It's been nine long years! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:18:19 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #456 (specifically Robin Holcomb and Hejira) In a message dated 18/08/00 08:20:15 GMT Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << The show was recorded at a concert last fall, with a wide assortment of cast members including Mark Szabo, Carl Newman, Dan Bejar, Peggy Lee, Veda Hille, Robin Holcomb, Spy Girl, and many more artists doing their versions of classic Nick Drake tunes such as Pink Moon, Black Eyed Dog, Northern Sky, and Cello Song." >> Does ANYONE know what Robin Holcomb is up to these days?? She is so damn talented, and there's not been a peep from her in ages. Two of the most memorable gigs I've ever been to were Robin Holcomb in Seattle in about 91/92, when I'd never heard of her and went on spec - and was blown away by her songs, her playing and a band that included Wayne Horvitz and Bill Frisell; and the New York Composers Orchestra, which I saw in about 96, and featured stunning pieces by Horvitz and Bobby Previte, and an extraordinary piano solo from Ms Holcomb herself. And Bob, who described Hejira as the finest song on the finest album ever - you are spot on my friend! Every couplet or quatrain contains wisdom and poetry, and every time I listen to it I alight on something different and marvel anew. If I had to pick just one line from that album [and I may have said this before] it would be "I'm porous with travel fever" - who else could even begin to touch that? Azeem in London NP: traffic going past my window. Time for bed, nighty night. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:44:19 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday (NJC) And the chorus sang...... > A great big Happy Fucking Birthday to you!!! Thank all you sweet friends so much for the wonderful birthday wishes! And a happy big frickin, freakin, fantastic, frosting-filled one to Pat and Jamie (guess we are the Leo triumvirate here ;-) A close friend took me out last night to Pinot Hollywood, known especially for its top of the line, gourmet martinis. I blissfully indulged in their fine concoctions. When I said that it was the most incredible assortment I'd ever seen, he told me that it still doesn't come close to the Top of the Mark in San Francisco. Later we went by Trader Vic's and I thought about Jamie's post to the list that this may have been the "Barangrill" of the famous song. In the old days, if you paid the price, you could keep the kitschy glasses. Boy have things changed. We ordered a gigantic ceramic bowl adorned with mermaids, lumpy fish and palm trees that I liked filled with enough rum and moonshine of unknown origin for six people, but in the end they told us that they only give the little coconuts away anymore ( Hmmpft! I feel a new parody coming on lamenting the old days....."Three corporate sharks all wearing black diamond pinkie rings, talking about mark-ups on Singapore Slings.." In MY house you can still keep the glasses ;-D Love to you all, Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 19:51:16 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: Where's Robin? Azeem wrote :"Does ANYONE know what Robin Holcomb is up to these days??" No, I can't say I do, but I did purchase her self-titled release when I was in college, and remember having a little trouble easing into it. This is probably why I don't own it anymore. If you find anything out, please let us know, as I have learned a valuable lesson over the years - it's those artists and releases that are 'difficult to ease into' that prove to be my faves over time. =). DJRD is a prime example. I also wanted to throw in a big THANKS to those who responded to my irrate 'life's to short' post last night. I might have thought to wait a while and get more of a feel for the dynamics of these already established relations here on the list, but that would be expecting me to behave in a way I never have - with caution...not my strength. I hope I didn't offend anyone, after all, I was merely trying to say that we should be kind to one another. Thanks again. While I'm here I must inquire again about Video Tree #1; I need one. If anyone is willing to help out, I'd be very grateful. I will trade audio for it. Email me privately for what's available. Once again, I will also ask if anyone knows of a guy named Josh Fensel. We used to be in touch and do Joni trades in the mid 90's and then lost one another; at that time, he was living in Ohio. I just thought maybe he'd been part of the list at one time or another. Cheers, Chris. NP : "Temperamental" The Remixes - Everything But The Girl ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:48:40 +1000 From: john low Subject: Gryphon & Richard Harvey NJC Thanks for your post Harper Lou. It is always good to know that there are others out there who like the same ‘obscure’ music! And, despite those sticky fingers all over your instrument, I bet you still enjoy all that tramping over dusty fields in the heat to entertain and educate the youngsters! Also, Azeem wrote: “Is that the same Richard Harvey who is now a modern composer? Answer: yes! I've just checked the sleeve of a recording of John Williams (the Australian guitarist) playing Harvey's Concerto Antico, one of my favourite modern classical pieces. Talented chap!” I hadn’t heard of this recording, Azeem. I like John Williams a lot and must check it out. Do you remember Williams in the band “Sky”? But that’s another story. After the demise of Gryphon, Richard Harvey also wrote music for film and television – including a collaboration with Elvis Costello on the soundtrack for the British drama “G.B.H.” by Alan Bleasdale. Cheers, John (in Sydney). __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:43:57 +1000 From: john low Subject: Strange Symbols NJC Colin wrote: "(“Down To Youâ€? what are these strange symbols? I have seen them on other mail too." Colin, these are a complete mystery to me too, despite Alan's explanation ! :-) I originally wrote the song title with inverted commas and, in their journey to the jmdl, these somehow turned into cryptic code. It has happened before and I have no idea why! Very strange and mysterious!! John (in Sydney) __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 20:46:14 -0500 From: "Eric Wilcox" Subject: Tony Bennett sings Joni ? Not sure if this qualifies as Joni content... we'll see. Some friends of mine just went to see Tony Bennett at Chicago's RAvinia festival. I declined the invitation because Tony sings there every year and its usually so overcrowded its unbelievable. Anyway-- I was told that he performed a song by Joni Mitchell. I was just curious if anyone had head of him singing Joni before? Of course, these friends of mine couldn't remember the title. But isn't that how it always goes? ;) eric ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:01:46 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Passion Play (When All The Slaves Are Free) << I have a few ideas about this song, but as I said, I don't feel certain that I get it. Help! Please! It's been nine long years! >> Linda, this song gets a good going over about every six months, and I'm not sure anybody gets it! :~) She uses the stories of Zaccheus & Mary Magdalene & their relationship with Jesus, but to what end? Matter of fact, if you think of ALL the songs in Joni's canon that have biblical references, it's a darn long list! Maybe you could start with what YOU think is going on, and what it makes YOU feel... Bob NP: Charlie Mingus, "Fables of Faubus" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 19:12:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Re: Life's too short! (NJC) Chris noted that: > IV wrote: "What makes you think that station > originated that line? and then stated: > O.K., thats all fine and well, but the 'what makes > you think' portion of this makes me think it's > stated in a nasty way, and folks, I for one must now > comment on a trend I'm seeing here. "It comes and goes." Lori, wishing it would go soon, in DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:19:02 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: $10 JMDL Fundraiser- McCartney Fans, Take Note; NJC I suppose.... Attention McCartney fans!! For a $10 donation to JMDL, I'm offering to one and only one JMDLer, this bizarre collection: 1. A sealed copy of McCartney's "RUN DEVIL RUN" CD. This copy is special because it includes a sealed copy of an accompanying CD, wherein Sir Paul talks about making this Rock & Roll CD with Dave Gilmore and others, in a fast and furious week at Abbey Road. Just like the Rutles used to. This is 'good stuff'. 2. A sealed copy of a promotional CD featuring 4 cuts by Britney Spears including "Oops! I Did It Again" in a remix by Rodney Jerkins. NSync's 4 tracks include a Teddy Riley remix of "Bye Bye Bye". I just bought it at McDonald's last week. Britney collectors will rate this one a "MUST HAVE". This is kitsch. 3. A used cassette of Garth Brooks' "Ropin' The Wind'. Kitsch or not? You decide. 4. The August 2000 issue of "Lowriding" magazine, featuring a modified and lowered Nissan that you won't find at the dealer called "Pimp Wagon". This magazine consistently sports the plainest cover models in the western world and this issue is no exception. This is kitsch. 5. In memory of the fantastic times at the JoniFest 2000, New Orleans, the collection also includes a boxed, 2 ounce bottle of TABASCO sauce. Unopened, fresh from the supermarket. This is kitsch that you can cook with. 6. The infamous "sexual innuendo game" based exclusively on Joni lyrics. Yes, this is the same game that was judged 'too alarming' for polite society in New England this week. (Remember, Massachusetts where they used to burn "witches".) If you are expecting four letter words, you'll be disappointed. This was printed with a ratty 9 pin dot-matrix printer and is autographed with pride by the bad-boy author himself. This is the *best* kind of kitsch. - -- Just send an email to me quickly! I'll post when we have a winner. Remember, it's always a good idea to send a little money to JMDL, no matter what the occasion. I'll ship it anywhere in the world at my expense but there will be only one winner. Sorry! The check should be made out to "JMDL" and, ironically, mailed to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ps: If this odd mixture of objects seems like it was intended to be "Dollysh*t", it was. For a definition of this term, see happier times at: http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest/jf980418.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:35:34 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: New Code Necessary? NJC....... 100% NPC I would like to propose a new sub-list and code. NPC No Pollyanna Content The NPC code would be mandatory for every post that didn't pass a board-certified, international standard of cheerfulness and wholesomeness. Doubts and fears, for example would have to be labeled. Likewise religion and politics. Certianly anger would be NPC. The NPC-Only List would allow those who prefer a chaste environment to skip such 'alarming' topics as relationships and cursing. For example, any thread mentioning "The Last Time I Saw Richard" would have to be labeled as it's alarmingly NPC on both counts. A side benefit would be that the NPC-Only List would be a breeze to read. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu I just love that word "alarming". ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:18:08 EDT From: BMGKotler@aol.com Subject: RE: Ladies of the Canyon -- Who are they? Pardon me if this is a repeat question, but I'm new to the list and all the Joni info garnered off the website. I've listened to her for years, but sort of in a vacuum, not knowing that most of her songs are biographical. So, today I was listening to Ladies of the Canyon and wondered are Trina, Annie and Estrella fictional or real? I remember reading recently that the song stems from Joni's days living in Laurel Canyon. Can anyone fill me in on further details? THANKS ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:50:52 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: New Code Necessary? NJC....... 100% NPC Oh Jim! This is the funniest thing I've read in so long on this list... and I wonder why I'm still here! I will be sure to use the NPC tag whenever I vent some anger. Pollyanna... Jesus! What a sugar coated movie! Anyone up for a little Glad Game!!! Oh damnit, I just fell from my third floor window and am paralyzed from the waist down. I don't feel like playing it anymore. But the good doctors in Baltimore will fix me up right away, and I'll get another dog and the entire town will love me! Oh, and I'll try to hide my British accent as well as I can, producers! Ugh... At 11:35 PM -0400 8/19/00, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: >I would like to propose a new sub-list and code. > >NPC > >No Pollyanna Content > >The NPC code would be mandatory for every post that didn't pass a >board-certified, international standard of cheerfulness and wholesomeness. >Doubts and fears, for example would have to be labeled. Likewise religion >and politics. Certianly anger would be NPC. > >The NPC-Only List would allow those who prefer a chaste environment to skip >such 'alarming' topics as relationships and cursing. For example, any >thread mentioning "The Last Time I Saw Richard" would have to be labeled as >it's alarmingly NPC on both counts. A side benefit would be that the >NPC-Only List would be a breeze to read. > > >All the best, >Jim L'Hommedieu > >I just love that word "alarming". - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ "Close it yourself, shitty!" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 02:42:01 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: birthday grrrrrrrrl!!!! njc kakki, how could i miss out on yours!!!!!!!!! have a wonderful birthday, or rather a wonderful day after your birthday!!!! sorry i was late... contritely wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:59:19 -0700 From: susan+rick Subject: Re: Strange Symbols NJC john low posted: > Colin wrote: > "(???Down To You??? > what are these strange symbols? I have seen them on other mail too." > > Colin, these are a complete mystery to me too, despite Alan's > explanation ! :-) I originally wrote the song title with inverted > commas and, in their journey to the jmdl, these somehow turned into > cryptic code. It has happened before and I have no idea why! Very > strange and mysterious!! While it's tempting to say it's probably caused by some idiosyncrasy inherent in Aussie keyboards, as I understand it the fault actually lies with cross-browser or email application incompatibilities. Some email apps are not able to read all symbols created by other applications and so substitute some other kind of symbol. You'd think though that inverted commas, quotation marks, would be fairly universal. Ranger Rick ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #459 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?