From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #439 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Tuesday, August 8 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 439 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Bob's Covers Project goes Europe again ["John van Tiel" ] Re: My Job (NJC) [pat holden ] RE: Zappa/ NJC ["Peg Eves" ] Re: L.A. Times Walecki article NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] NJC, Laura Nyro posters & questions ["Peg Eves" ] Re: NJC, Laura Nyro posters & questions [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Professions NJC [Catherine McKay ] Joni with Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young in 1974 ["Blair Fraipont" ] Re: Joni with Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young in 1974 [Seulbzzaj@aol.com] Re: Fw: Better Education needed? (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] Fwd: Trip to Italy (NJC) [jan gyn ] Re: My Job (NJC) [pat holden ] Bands that don't seem so much confetti - your top 5s ["william" ] Re: My Job (NJC) [pat holden ] RE: NJC, Laura Nyro posters & questions ["Peg Eves" ] RE: Hi from the Bay Area in California ["Peg Eves" ] JMDL Artists ["Kate Bennett" ] DED Part 2 (long and dangerous content) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Marcel reviews DED Part 1. (long and treacherous content) [MDESTE1@aol.c] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:23:23 +0200 From: "John van Tiel" Subject: Bob's Covers Project goes Europe again To all European members ... Anyone in Europe who is interested in any of the Covers CDs that His imperial Bobness has put together for us all, please contact me. I finally have some time on my hands to do some Euroburning. I have in my possession: Bob's Cover project Vols. 1-8 (note: Volume 2 consists of 4 cds) Flotsam & Jetsam, Vols 1 & 2 (vol 1: Joni live in the 80s; vol. 2 interviews) For all listers ... Last July, Pat Metheny & Michael Brecker gave a concert at the North Sea Jazz Festival in The Hague, here in the Netherlands. It was broadcast on Dutch tv and I have put it to cd. I burned 10 extra copies for list members, many of whom are PM lovers, too. Just contact me for a copy. From the coast of Holland ... John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 02:14:19 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: L.A. Times Walecki article I'm really looking forward to the benefit tonight and tomorrow. A lot of the gang will be meeting up both nights for it. I spoke to a friend tonight who practically grew up hanging out at Westwood Music and told me many wonderful stories about Freddy. Said that even if you were a small child wandering into the store, Freddy would give you all his attention and treat you like his most important customer. The following article appeared in yesterday's L.A. Times. (I wonder if this is Patti Davis, daughter of Ronnie Reagan and former girlfriend of Bernie Leadon?) Sounds like it's going to be a couple of very special nights. Kakki Payback Time for a Beloved Guitar Man When Westwood Music's owner faced cancer, members of the rock aristocracy organized a benefit concert By PATTI DAVIS, Special to The Times People buying tickets for a two-night concert at the Santa Monica Civic on Tuesday and Wednesday with Linda Ronstadt, Jackson Browne, David Crosby, Emmylou Harris and Bonnie Raitt might be puzzled that it's a benefit concert for Fred Walecki and family. No, he hasn't been in the news or featured on "Extra." Walecki owns a music store--Westwood Music, a place that's been in his family since he was born 53 years ago. He's sold guitars to some of the most well-known names in music, and has been entrusted with the repair of valuable and beloved instruments. In the '70s, when Los Angeles was home to more rock music stars than anywhere on earth, it wasn't unusual to walk into the store, then located on Westwood Boulevard, and see Browne or Neil Young trying out a guitar, or the Eagles' Glenn Frey buying guitar picks. It was a place where musicians loved to hang out, the place where somebody like Bonnie Raitt, who went to University High with Walecki, might phone from the road in urgent need of a replacement guitar. It was a place, too, where Fred might look you in the eye and tell you you were wrecking your life with drugs and needed to go into treatment. Several people would come to feel they owed him their sobriety. Walecki was always available, always cheerful, and always seen with a cigarette. Several months ago, he got the diagnosis: throat cancer, growing so quickly that there was no choice but to remove his voice box. He now speaks through an artificial-voice device, requiring him to hold a small microphone to his throat. Those close to Walecki knew that despite his positive outlook and the resilience of his wife, Cathy, and their two young children, the medical expenses not covered by his insurance were more than he could handle. Enter Bernie Leadon, an old friend and one of the four original Eagles, and Glyn Johns, the legendary producer who has worked with the Beatles, Eric Clapton, the Eagles and the Rolling Stones. The idea for a benefit concert was born. "Emmylou Harris, Jackson Browne and David Crosby were the first to say yes," Leadon says. Crosby suggested they contact Tom Campbell, whose company, the Guacamole Fund, has put together benefit concerts on behalf of individuals and social issues for the past 25 years. Each artist who was approached committed without hesitation: Warren Zevon, Chris Hillman and Randy Meisner joined the list. Browne came up with the concert billing, "Gathering of the Clan," which the musicians said symbolized the way they'd gathered for so long under Fred's roof. "Not a sweeter soul walks this earth," said Hillman. "When I grow up, I want to be Fred Walecki," Harris added. "They're paying him back for his kindness and generosity over the years," Glyn Johns said earlier this week as he prepared to fly here from London for the concert. The latest addition is Don Henley, who has been on tour, and has adjusted his schedule to perform Wednesday night. "I've learned a lot about strength and character just by watching Walecki go through this ordeal," Henley said. Walecki's father, Herman Walecki, opened the store in 1947, catering mostly to classical musicians. Fred started working there when he was 14, repairing instruments. Four years later his father died. Fred quit school and took over the store, changing its focus to the guitar-based music he'd grown up with. The store has been located on Santa Monica Boulevard for the last six years and--like other small music stores and bookstores--has lost business to the new mega-stores that offer lower prices but less camaraderie. Walecki has been moved by the attention. He fondly recounts a moment in the hospital when, under the haze of sedation, he pressed a button to summon a nurse for more pain medication, only to have Henley walk into the room first for an unexpected visit. "If someone offered to give me back my voice in exchange for knowing this kind of friendship," he said, "I wouldn't take the offer." "If someone offered to give me back my voice in exchange for knowing this kind of friendship, I wouldn't take the offer." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 07:09:35 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: Re: My Job (NJC) Evan + Vanessa Thomson wrote: > A Mum and the "Sock and Jock Fairy". Apparently the socks and jocks > mysteriously appear in Evan's draw washed and folded. He therefore > concluded that there had to be a Sock and Jock Fairy from Washing > Machine Land that did his laundry and then put them neatly away in his > draw! The man's 26...! > > Being a Mum and wife can be so trying sometimes :-) > > Vanessa > > N.P. cartoons And speaking of socks.....Vanessa, I couldnt resist sending this 'theory' along to you, have a look :-) Mags http://members.aol.com/eukaryote/SciHumor/socks.html np: snow falling on cedars - -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 07:00:02 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: Zappa/ NJC Hey Y'all, I need to correct a thought i wrote in the Zappa post: I didn't mean clavinet - but Synclavier. I clicked before I clerked. I just had my first clarinet lesson. Peg > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Peg > Eves > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 11:37 AM > To: cassy > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE:Zappa/ NJC > > > Yes to Frank Zappa music. Despite(is that a word?) pressure from the males > in my peer group in the late 60's who adored Frank's pranks & parodies, > etc - I was never amused or moved by his early work and he > certainly didn't > need me. BUT his instrumental stuff, the clavinet compositions,Jazz From > Hell, Dog Breath Variations, the double "Guitar" release. Stupendous. > It's in my collection. An island unto himself (not just in his > personage) in > that sense he is comparable to Joni, yes? And in his musical originaltiy & > genius; His persistance in retreating from "structure"; His ability to and > committment to play from , instinct - shall we say. > > Peg > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of cassy > > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:42 AM > > To: Blair Fraipont; joni@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Men with Soul?!! Hell Yea NJC > > > > > > Blair said: > > > > > > >Hey, i think you are all forgetting one great male Songwriters... > > >Frank Zappa!! UH HA!! I knew you would agree. > > > > I love Frank Zappa :0) Even after the following incident: > > > > I went in the early 70's to a Zappa concert in Detroit. During Frank's > > prior concert in Detroit the crowd was pretty rowdy, tossing > > garbage at him > > and cat-calling, it really ticked him off and he left the stage > > prematurely. > > This time we waited an inordinate amount of time for him to > begin his show > > then... finally a tiny spotlight on center stage with a pair of > > pink feet in > > it. The spotlight expanded gradually to illuminate Frank, > > standing there in > > all his glory dressed as a big penis... a microphone standing > in front of > > him he leaned into it and said "Detroit... you've just been > > fucked," and he > > left the stage! That was his entire show! > > > > Many people got refunds for the concert, while I was disappointed at not > > having seen him perform his music I did appreciated the fact that, in a > > sense, this was a rare piece of performance art and have come to > > appreciate > > it over the years. > > > > I have seen Frank many times live and love his work. The man > was a genius > > musically and gave Jean-Luc Ponty his start in the industry. > > > > Cassy > > > > NP Elmore James "King of the Slide Guitar" > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 08:11:31 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: L.A. Times Walecki article NJC I know Fred's a World Class guy and it's gonna make me look like an A-1 SHITHEAD to point out this irony, but I can't help it as I've already lost too many of my loved ones to smoking... <> << always seen with a cigarette. Several months ago, he got the diagnosis: throat cancer, growing so quickly that there was no choice but to remove his voice box. >> Bob NP: Buckingham-Nicks, "Sorcerer" (Thanks Ladybug!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 09:54:03 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: NJC, Laura Nyro posters & questions Yo, Hi Folks , What recording has Upstairs By A Chinese Lamp?? Can someone recommend two clarinet recordings each featuring a different clarinet player. Anything but classical. I have about 15 Laura Nyro posters from a show I produced for her in early 90's. They are 5x11, white card stock with black lettering and cool black zerox profile image of Laura;says "Laura Nyro", has some testimonials, venue name, etc. If you want one send me a sase manilla inside an envelope and I'll send one back to you. Post to me off list to get an address. Peg in Vermont > ----- > will always like the way they perform their music the best. Do you know > there are some people that do not like (gasp!) Laura's or Joni's > voice when > they sing? I think I converted my husband by taking him to the BSN > concert. Afterwards he said no one could sing BSN like Joni. > Needless to > say I was in shock to hear these words come out of his mouth! > > Heather > > At 02:17 PM 7/10/00 -0400, Jerry Notaro wrote: > > >To combine threads, my 2 top Laura albums are Gonna Take a Miracle and > >Christmas and the Beads of Sweat. I listened to both of those as > much as Joni, > >Tapestry, and Wildflowers. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 10:35:32 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC, Laura Nyro posters & questions <> Christmas & The Beads of Sweat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:49:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Professions NJC - --- diana wrote: > After getting my masters this last May I am > beginning a new career as a > high school math teacher at the age of 50. Will > wonders never cease!! Wonderful! I love to hear stories of people who make major changes like this at a time when most would settle for the same old same old so they can safeguard their pension. You CAN teach an old dog new tricks and you will bring something very special to the classroom. ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 11:50:25 EDT From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Joni with Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young in 1974 Hey everyone, I was curious if anyone recalls the shows Joni did with CSN&Y back in 1974 on their 'reunion' Tour?? I saw a snipet of them performing all together (obviously during an encore) from the VH1 Neil Young Legends special. I just was wondering how well did Joni play in those Stadiums..because her music seems to flourish in more personal spaces; I didnt know if the gargantuam size of the stadiums changed her performance.. and if so, What songs did she do well? Blair f ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:21:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: 'Ruth' MacLean & Joni - --- Anna Ruth MacLean <9905346M@student.gla.ac.uk> wrote: > Thank you to everyone who replied to me with > Scottish > connections etc.. I'm still wondering what to do > with the amount of > mail I'm receiving from the JMDL !! > Well, hold on, girl - you ain't seen nothin' yet! I don't think anyone could ever accuse this bunch of being "quiet". ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 12:39:34 EDT From: Seulbzzaj@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni with Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young in 1974 I went to one of those performances. Joni's set was with Tom Scott & The LA Express - and was just like the Miles Of Aisles lp - a great show! She also sang a few things with CSNY during their set. - Scott In a message dated Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:16:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Blair Fraipont" writes: << Hey everyone, I was curious if anyone recalls the shows Joni did with CSN&Y back in 1974 on their 'reunion' Tour?? I saw a snipet of them performing all together (obviously during an encore) from the VH1 Neil Young Legends special. I just was wondering how well did Joni play in those Stadiums..because her music seems to flourish in more personal spaces; I didnt know if the gargantuam size of the stadiums changed her performance.. and if so, What songs did she do well? Blair f ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:23:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Fw: Better Education needed? (NJC) - --- Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > "The purpose of the skeleton is something to hitch > meat to" > > "The tides are a fight between the earth and the > moon" > > Yes, these demonstrate a lack of ------ that is > appalling, but in another > context (sorry, it's early and the cliche-monster's > got me) aren't they > beautifully lyrical and inventive? I think this is > the kind of language songs > and poems are made of. IMO, there are many > "songwriters" out there selling > millions of units who've probably never written > anything as evocative as "the > tides are a fight between the earth and the moon." > Yes! If I were the teacher, I'd want to give the kid full marks for the poetry of it, even if the science was wrong. ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 14:27:11 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: NJC, Laura Nyro posters & questions peg!!!! some of your nyro memorabilia would be great for the raffles at the upcoming new england jonifest. would you be willing to donate some?????? please say YES....... wallyk > I have about 15 Laura Nyro posters from a show I produced for her in early > 90's. They are 5x11, white card stock with black lettering and cool black > zerox profile image of Laura;says "Laura Nyro", has some testimonials, venue > name, etc. If you want one send me a sase manilla inside an envelope and > I'll send one back to you. Post to me off list to get an address. > > Peg in Vermont ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:34:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: My Job (NJC) > > > Evan + Vanessa Thomson wrote: > > > A Mum and the "Sock and Jock Fairy". Apparently > the socks and jocks > > mysteriously appear in Evan's draw washed and > folded. He therefore > > concluded that there had to be a Sock and Jock > Fairy from Washing > > Machine Land that did his laundry and then put > them neatly away in his > > draw! The man's 26...! > > N.P. cartoons You didn't ask but here's my advice - make him put his own damn clothes away! - --- pat holden wrote: > And speaking of socks.....Vanessa, I couldnt resist > sending this 'theory' > along to you, have a look :-) > Mags > > http://members.aol.com/eukaryote/SciHumor/socks.html > I loved that - how true it is! I'm convinced my washing machine eats socks although I've never caught it in the act - it waits until I'm not looking. If you really want to be sure you get a matching pair, always buy a whole bunch of the same kind of socks. That way, you don't ever again have to worry about pairing them up - just shove'em in a drawer as is. You can even dress in the dark and still look presentable (look! matching socks!), and bonus, save all that time *not* matching up socks doing something you truly love to do - like dusting or cleaning the oven. As they begin to wear out, you realize you'll NEVER be able to buy the same kind again (it's all part of a secret sock-manufacturers' plot designed to ensure that we keep buying socks) so at this point, you're going to have to go out and buy a whole bunch more of a new kind of socks. But never fear - you can use the old ones to make sock puppets for the kids, Christmas ornaments, dog toys, potpourri holders and so on. ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 10:33:02 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Fwd: Trip to Italy (NJC) >>>> A New York woman was at her East Side hairdresser's getting her >>>> hair styled prior to a trip to Rome with her boyfriend. She mentioned >>>> the >>>> trip to the hairdresser, who responded, "Rome? Why would anyone want to >>>> go >>>> there? It's crowded & dirty and full of Italians? You're crazy to go to >>>> Rome. >>>> So, how are you getting there?" >>>> >>>> "We're taking Continental," was the reply. "We got a great >>>> rate!" >>>> >>>> "Continental?" exclaimed the hairdresser. "That's a terrible >>>> airline. Their planes are old, their flight attendants are >>>> ugly, and they're always late. So, where are you staying in >>>> Rome?" >>>> >>>> "We'll be at this exclusive little place over on Rome's left bank >>>> called Teste....." >>>> >>>> "Don't go any further. I know that place. Everybody thinks its >>>> gonna be something special and exclusive. But it's really a dump, the >>>> worst hotel in the city! The rooms are small, the service is surly and >>>> they're >>>> overpriced. >>>> >>>> So, whatcha doing when you get there?" >>>> >>>> "We're going to go to see the Vatican and we hope to see the >>>> Pope." >>>> >>>> "That's rich," laughed the hairdresser. "You and a million other >>>> people trying to see him. He'll look the size of an ant. Boy,good luck >>>> on this lousy trip of yours. You're going to need it." >>>> >>>> A month later, the woman again came in for a hairdo. The >>>> hairdresser asked her about her trip to Rome. >>>> >>>> "It was wonderful," explained the woman, "not only were we on >>>> time in one of Continental's brand new planes, but it was overbooked and >>>> they >>>> bumped us up to first class. The food and wine were wonderful, and I had >>>> a >>>> handsome 28 year old steward who waited on me hand and foot. And the >>>> hotel-- it was great! They'd just finished a $5 million remodeling job >>>> and now >>>> it's just a jewel, finest hotel in the city. They, too, were overbooked, >>>> so >>>> they apologized and gave us their owner's suite at no extra charge!" >>>> >>>> "Well," muttered the hairdresser, "I know you didn't get to see >>>> the Pope." >>>> >>>> "Actually, we were quite lucky, for as we toured the Vatican, a >>>> Swiss Guard tapped me on the shoulder and explained that the Pope likes >>>> to >>>> personally meet some of the visitors, and if I'd be so kind as to step >>>> into >>>> his private room and wait, the Pope would personally greet me. Sure >>>> enough, five minutes later, the Pope walked through the door and shook >>>> my >>>> hand! I knelt down and he spoke a few words to me." >>>> >>>> "Really?" asked the hairdresser. "What'd he say?" >>>> >>>> He said, "Where'd you get the horrible hairdo?" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 13:46:32 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: Re: My Job (NJC) Catherine McKay wrote: > > > > > > Evan + Vanessa Thomson wrote: > > > > > A Mum and the "Sock and Jock Fairy". Apparently > > the socks and jocks > > > mysteriously appear in Evan's draw washed and > > folded. He therefore > > > concluded that there had to be a Sock and Jock > > Fairy from Washing > > > Machine Land that did his laundry and then put > > them neatly away in his > > > draw! The man's 26...! > > > N.P. cartoons > > You didn't ask but here's my advice - make him put his > own damn clothes away! > > --- pat holden wrote: > > And speaking of socks.....Vanessa, I couldnt resist > > sending this 'theory' > > along to you, have a look :-) > > Mags > > > > http://members.aol.com/eukaryote/SciHumor/socks.html > > > > I loved that - how true it is! I'm convinced my > washing machine eats socks although I've never caught > it in the act - it waits until I'm not looking. If you > really want to be sure you get a matching pair, always > buy a whole bunch of the same kind of socks. That > way, you don't ever again have to worry about pairing > them up - just shove'em in a drawer as is. You can > even dress in the dark and still look presentable > (look! matching socks!), and bonus, save all that time > *not* matching up socks doing something you truly love > to do - like dusting or cleaning the oven. As they > begin to wear out, you realize you'll NEVER be able to > buy the same kind again (it's all part of a secret > sock-manufacturers' plot designed to ensure that we > keep buying socks) so at this point, you're going to > have to go out and buy a whole bunch more of a new > kind of socks. But never fear - you can use the old > ones to make sock puppets for the kids, Christmas > ornaments, dog toys, potpourri holders and so on. ROFL oh Catherine oh Catherine the way your mind works! Just the additional bit of hysteria my poor stressed out brain needed! By the way, I heard that socks literally DO get eaten by dryers..they somehow go in behind??? I dont know, I am still banking on the alien nation theory. Mags, np: something on Q107 which is making me want to pull my hair out...(sorry mimi) > > > ===== > Catherine (in Toronto) > catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca > > _______________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:47:12 +0700 From: "william" Subject: Bands that don't seem so much confetti - your top 5s Just been reading the compilation lists of Joni Undercovers and am quite overawed by the selection. Thanks Bob-JoniGuy in SC for pointing me in the right direction. I would like to acquire or at least hear all/most/some of the covers there are, but from experience of the few I have heard, well ...... they always leave me flat. Back to the Garden circa 92 just appalled me. I'm kinda fussy about the music I listen to, who isn't? Being a Joni fan it goes without sayi..... There are so many unknowns (to me anyway) in the list that I'd find it hard to select a compilation. Of course I assume the tried and tested CSNs and other established artists are worthy of having. Though having said that, I read that Joni feels her original "Big Yellow Taxi" is not the definitive version. Dylan's certainly ain't. We're talking taste here and worthwhile interpretations of Joni's work. A tall order. Cut to the chase Willy ....... I'd much like to hear fellow JMDLers' thoughts, criticisms, top 5, top anything of the covers they've come across. I'm not so into syrupy versions of BSN a la Judy Collins, more a kind of John Martin doing Blue Motel Room (I wish) or even that Janet Jackson thing she did recently - well not really, only if there'd been more Joni bits in it. Strings squeaking under fingers is what I like as in David Crosby's In My Dreams - yes, but not middle-of-the-road Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep. Sorry Leslie I'm wandering again! Must focus. As Kenny Everett once said, ' Tonight we say focus". One had to be there. Willy the Shake NP - Boogie With Stu (Led Zeppelin) - oooh ma soul, rock on! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:57:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: My Job (NJC) - --- pat holden wrote: > I heard that socks > literally DO > get eaten by dryers..they somehow go in behind??? I > dont > know, I am still banking on the alien nation theory. Strangely enough, I have (on the odd occasion I actually move the dryer out to vacuum behind it) found several long-lost and presumed dead socks *behind* it - - years after their lone companion was relegated to the "do-something-with-this-when-you-get-a-chance" pile and ultimately recycled. I have no idea *how* they got there, but the idea of a sock-eating dryer makes much sense to me! I mean, it couldn't possibly be because I dropped them there, could it? ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 14:24:58 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: Re: My Job (NJC) Catherine McKay wrote: > --- pat holden wrote: > > I heard that socks > > literally DO > > get eaten by dryers..they somehow go in behind??? I > > dont > > know, I am still banking on the alien nation theory. > > Strangely enough, I have (on the odd occasion I > actually move the dryer out to vacuum behind it) found > several long-lost and presumed dead socks *behind* it > - years after their lone companion was relegated to > the "do-something-with-this-when-you-get-a-chance" > pile and ultimately recycled. I have no idea *how* > they got there, but the idea of a sock-eating dryer > makes much sense to me! I mean, it couldn't possibly > be because I dropped them there, could it? hell no Catherine, its the aliens i tell you...trust me on this..they are everywhere. even on this list ( shhh they are south of the border Catherine, but its our little secret ) I heard that one of them was left behind or something. okay Im suffering from this heat and humidesque-pool we ontarians are swimming in...with no a/c to boot. and need to get my self to work ... blaaaaaaaaaaaaa.yuck. when will then be now???? Mags, who is hunting down socks at this very moment..anyone got a black pair i can borrow? ...also drowning in a sea of boxes and stress.... np: still some crazy thing from Q107 > > > ===== > Catherine (in Toronto) > catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca > > _______________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 14:38:16 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: NJC, Laura Nyro posters & questions Wally, Of course. How many ya need, do you think? Take 'em. Ashara already has dibs on one. Post the address to me and I'll send 'em wherever. Peg > peg!!!! > some of your nyro memorabilia would be great for the raffles at > the upcoming > new england jonifest. > > > Peg in Vermont > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:02:09 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: Hi from the Bay Area in California Yo, Bunny! I'm a little late here but I'm relatively new to the list too and wanted to say Hi and tell you what a great relief you will feel being able to share your Joni -expressions with these kookie & wonderful fan-atics who know and care where you're coming from. You've got good taste! Talk to ya later. Peg in VT > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > Adrian T Chang > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 5:41 AM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Hi from the Bay Area in California > > > Hello Everyone, > > I'm new to the list and figured I'd drop my first email to say > "hi" to everyone. So I'm Adrian, most of my friends call me > Bunny, as in Bunny Boy, Bunny Blue, Baby Bunny and whatever else > anyone can think of. Call me whatever you want. I'm open. > About me, I'm 17, I'm gay and from the bay area in California. > By the way, the "I'm Gay" part isn't me trying to brutally throw > that on you, I just thought I'd mention it. Anyways, It's hard > for me to find ANYONE my age or even any age in my area that > appreciates Joni as much as I do(besides my parents, but they > were hippies so...). My boyfriend hates her musick(though he > respects her as a artist and a musician, he just really dislikes > her style). So its a little dissapointing that I don't really > have any friends that I can randomly chat about Joni with, > without having to explain who she is. SO i figured I'd join the > list and meet some other "groupies and fanatics" like me. I've > been listening to her since I was a baby and to! > ok up guitar when I was 10 because I wanted to be like her. So > thats all I can think of to write. I better go, its really late. > Well, hopefully, I'll meet all of you later. > > Love and peace, > Adrian > > > Send FREE Greetings for Father's Day--or any day! > Click here: http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/redirects/fathers_day.rdct > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:05:11 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: JMDL Artists "Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: Hey, where are the hordes of singersongwriters? Kate, Bryan, Leslie? Its coming, I am waayyyyy behind in everything......... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic…the album grows more intriguing with repeated listening" All Music Guide "lyrically, it's a work of art overall" Indie-Music.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:50:29 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: DED Part 2 (long and dangerous content) Tax Free Well we copied the Pretenders and the Police now who else is really really big and popular that we need to emulate.....how about Cristopher Cross who is tied into all the other people involved with this album and whose album was a colossal smash about this time had sections in his songs very close to Jonis in this song particularly on the vocal phrasing. Another was the Motels. Joni must have been watching alot of MTV. This song also has another gimmic of the times which was the boyfriend imitating politician making speech voice over. People in the sixties mocked parents who didnt like their music their hair or their party materials. In the 80s it became cool to mock politicians and materialism (later to be abandoned in the 90s) because the entire industry hated Ronald Reagan and the economic expansion. However Joni isnt writing about macho military invasions with most of the lyrics. Shes writing about coming home from party time, feeling like doggy doo, and onto the TV comes a televangelist. Most of the allusions are to hard right christian bible thumpers and how money sent to them is tax deductable, which she calls "tax free" (revealing her musician mentality). How the song segues into the "marines, manhood, and grenada"is, I think, another example I suspect of the decisions of others. The voice at the end referring to the invasion of Grenada is a classic. Wonder where that guy has been through Bosnia, Khosovo,Haiti, Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Bin Laden and about 40 other military escapades of the last eight years. [Hey man who cares, I got my portfolios and my 401-k cranking man]. Little did Joni suspect at the time that a future president would hold an entire invasion just to distract the public from the DNA tests on a blue dress like Clinton did but thats another story. Anyway what is interesting is that the entire song lyric isnt really about politics or politicians (which makes the political rant all the more interesting, unrelated, and weird) but about televangelists and their craving for money and the idea that money given to them is tax deductable. The Cristopher Cross imitation stems from the vocals which are done very much in his style especially in the first verse. Detecting a pattern here? First the Police, The Pretenders, Peter Gabriel, Cristopher Cross all whose styles are suddenly the way for Joni to go. OK you might say thats way too harsh an indictment. Well I'll stand by that because these arent just style drifts they are absolute quasi sampling of those other artists art. When you are imitating Chrissy Hindes vocal annunciations you arent just dabbling you are copying. Joni must have felt suffocated under this pushing from all directions to immitate others. How can I say that ? Easy, Turbulent Indigo. After she escaped Klein and the other LAMM her music reverted to what can easily see is her own art. Compare TI to DED and no greater evidence could ever be produced. It is stark. One is her, the other isnt. In Tax Free the idea Joni had about televangelists is suddenly co-opted into an anti-Reagan rant about the Grenada invasion. Talk about invasion of the body snatchers, the LAMM took a perfectly good general idea and foisted their own preferred political subject matter and in doing so mutated the song itself. I love the synth tubular sound on this songs intro. Although the verse melody is pastel and undistinguishable I love the choruses melodic groove (with its guitar line) and i LOOOVe the short multi track interlude on the line "Oh come let us adore....me". I think the song would have been better without the ranting but hey that was the 80s. Only Joni can answer for sure but I would bet that this was again someone elses idea and she was tired of fighting all her "mentors". It earns the big 6 for effort. DED PART 2. Smokin' (Empty, Try Another) Years ago I noticed that when I went to the money machine when my card came back out after the transaction there was this little beep sound that was in perfect note and time with Greg Rollie's hammond B-3 intro to Santana's Oy E Como Va. Machine as music what a concept. Peter Gabriel in my humble opinion is one of the all time greatest acts to see live. No amps for any of his musicians on the stage. Everything is wireless. The sound is always the best as well as the lights. etc. But nothing has distinguished P-Gab from the rest of the pack anything like his in-studio use of sound effects in place of music instrumental tracks. His albums are filled with sounds rather than music. Even his drums sound like machines found in factories and subway trains. Ultimately this is a very well done song that pulls off this technique about as well as it can be done. I would have to assume (given my other assumptions) that cigarette smoking was becoming an issue big time in the Klein-Mitchell abode. She refers to it in the song Borderline later on ("...blame it on the smoke"). Maybe she was feeling enslaved by the habit. In any event she makes unique use of the sound of the cigarette machine and that one "instrument" ,except for Larry Kleins bass, is it, as far as instruments go. She throws in a hacking cough at the end part of the song as sort of her "solo". Her vocals as usual are fabulous although basically doing the same line repeatedly. Ill give it a 6 for the beat of the cigarette machine. Dog Eat Dog As a hard core folk music fan I long ago got used to the political statement put to music. While Joni certainly does that in this song I sensed a much deeper thing going on. I say this because Joni came of age both personally and professionally during one of the most dynamic and horrifying (Cold War nuclear threat-Viet Nam-Kent State-Kennedy/King) eras in history. So it is suprising that the woman who didnt write a song about some things of great historic importance suddenly writes a song about 80s materialism meeting religion and sees a deep connection to survival of the human race within it. She is clearly all over the televangelists case -again- (perhaps rightly so) but somehow missed the political/religion pimps in the process. She sees materialism and greed for money in the corporate world and the religion business but misses entirely those who lie cheat and enslave people for political power as opposed to money. Personally I think this is the achilles heel of the boomer generation but I digress. In the title track nothing states her case better than the third verse. Land of snap decisions Land of short attention spans Nothing is savored Long enough to really understand In every culture in decline The watchful ones among the slaves Know all that is genuine will be Scorned and conned and cast away Perhaps she is revealing who the slaves were in her song Passion Play. Joni here clearly has on her blue malaise tinted shades. Her assessment is depressing and morose. On the other hand the music itself is that of Southern California. Bright, cheery, tonaly uplifting only a hint of a minor chord. Kind of like LA itself wherein everyone goes to see their therapist on bright sunny wonderful days. Another interesting thing to me was the slightest hint of Cindy Lauper's Time after Time in the musical tracks. Almost as if the producer realized that he had to include that to insure playability on the radio. A 6 is about where this comes in. Shiny Toys Easily my favorite song on the album and in my humble opinion actually Jonis best "hit". The song's verse is an out and out synopsis of the 80s with just a hint of the Police guitar signiture in the intro. When people magazine was the most read in America and Female bands were taking off with the Bangles Cindy Lauper, the Pretenders (sorry but it was Chrisseys band) and the GoGos. Life must have been good good good in LA about these times. Joni sings about the exciting trips out to party land. The intro is brilliant with the melody of the words a sort of counter melody to the note line. The production is fabulous with the synth pads and the effects darting in and out of your consciousness. I have listened to this song now maybe 50 or 60 times and there is no sign of getting tired of it. Pure fun. Of course the attention span of the producer was so wigged out that when he had the obligatory boyfriend blurt out "I love my porsche" (twice yet) to you know sort of like wow man lets hammer home the materialism theme lest someone not get it. In spite of that this is the purest hit material on the album. No problem giving this one a 9. Part 3 to be continued. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:50:18 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Marcel reviews DED Part 1. (long and treacherous content) Dog Eat Dog I have been following this Dog Eat Dog thing for a long time on this list. Some love it most (it seems) dont. For all the debate I couldnt figure out the validity of either argument. I had never heard the album and the cover REALLY turned me off. (will someone please give Joni a big doughnut). I love all of Jonis albums and I only have a couple left to listen to. I mentioned when I found a cheap copy of DED in the used bin I couldnt resist. Said I would review it for fun. Must have received 20 mails already some defending it some saying dont waste your time. Nothing gets dander up and euphoria raging quite like "Best song or album" debates on the JMDL. So here goes. I was prepared for one thing. Those who like or love this album always refer to it as a statement of the times or a sort of cultural timepiece. In that regard it is superb. The sound is a classic of the times with its guitar and synth effects, pounding drums and shiny effects. While there are some lyrics that are a mirror of the time I found others to be more a mirror of Jonis world. So a reflection of the times it is. Of course that sword cuts both ways as you will see from my fearless commentary. Donning the asbestos suit I take the plunge.... Good Friends The sound of this powerful production is the best possible music to have blaring on your car radio while driving on the LA Freeways. Its MTV, its LA, its Miami Vice soundtrack material, its slick, clean, clear, and has monster hit potential, but it isnt Joni. The first song has the mark of the beast as far as the eighties is concerned. Michael MacDonalds voice. You see a song cant be an Eighties song unless former Doobie Brother Michael MacDonald sings on it. Statistics from the Office of Management and Budget have shown that he sang on 97.365 % of every hit song ever done in the entire decade with the exception of Happy days are Here Again at the 1988 Demo convention and the Star Spangled Banner at the Superbowl although that tape is being rechecked to make sure. In the 80s however if you didnt have the voice that sang What A Fool Believes on your newest product you weren't officially part of the LA Music Mafia (LAMM) which included Davids Foster and Geffen and members of Toto. What is noteworthy about this is that his voice is singularly uninteresting on this song with the exception of his yelpy, signiture, high harmony. His voice plainly doesnt blend well with Jonis. In one place they are singing the same notes but his voice is so thin it does nothing to blend with Jonis. There are a few McDonald lines that it took about 10 listens before I realized he was actually singing. And who else is on this album but Steve Lukather the premier lead guitar gun (Toto) of all time who also was on every song done in the entire decade (if he wasnt then Eddie Van Halen or Steve Vai was).Why I mention this is because this is the first clue as to the fact that Joni by this time was seemingly trapped in the deepest part of the jaws of the LA music industry. Which frequently did things mostly because they were being successfully done by other artists. Whatever worked everyone else tried to copy, just like with the film industry. Unfortunately the goddess of prose (Joni) produces perhaps the mose banal lyrics she has ever written for this song. Remember the songs theme is meeting a friend... Sometimes change comes at you like a broadside accident There is chaos to the order Random things you can't prevent There could be trouble around the corner There could be beauty down the street Synchronized like magic Good friends you and me [ yo...joan....wazzup with this] No hearts of gold No nerves of steel No blame for what we can and cannot feel...........(and if you cant think of anything else to write, hey, reverse the lines order, cooool) No nerves of steel No hearts of gold No blame for what we can and can't control Good friends you and me [NB. How unprofound can you get yet the words sound so good together. Words like 'steel' 'gold' and 'blame' are known, effective, lyric power words. You find them in many songs but here they are all strung together. Hmmmm. Sort of the rock-equivalent of the country power lyrics, Mama, ma burnin' heart, ma dowg and ma truck. They each work well in a song but when you string them all together its overdone] Now there above is the most powerful lyric in the song. Sheesh. Remember this is one of the greatest poets of the generation. Words are her paints. So whats up with this blather. Of course someone will find "deep meaning" in this stuff but I really think they are weak by her standards. What does getting together with a good friend have to do with the words in this song, nada.Well thats all part of the involvemnent with the LAMM. In the 80s songs had to fit the formula. or else. While nothing was ever better than 80's LA production values the lyrics were often the result of too much blow meeting too many pretensions. Song lyrics became formulaic. Certain words (like the ones above)started showing up in every song that was produced by that system. My personal impression on this song is that Joni had less (if not lost) control of the creation process. The "synchronized like magic" line is a typical LAMM creation in which words that sound good together have no meaning. While the lyrics are in my opinion weak, the music tracks are pure LA sound and wonderful. I love the production on this album and this song. The producer used a synth as a timing track and the tracks shine. As the sharp and clear as crystal synth bass with the double scratch click track jump out of your speakers you cant help but picture yourself on the LA Freeway buzzing along above the limit, at least I cant. Who cares what the words mean, right? So although Joni got Pa Pa ooh mau mau'd on this song lyric wise, I'll give it an 7 1/2 because it sounds so good. I call this a 'bimbo" song. You wouldnt take it seriously it but it sure looks good. Fiction Ah yes those incredible drum tracks. I end up with a problem on this song. Even after numerous listens I cant remember a strong melodic passage. The producers were so in love with the sound of The Police and the Pretenders that they pushed for that sound and succeeded. They even forced Joni to sing like Chrissy Hinde (check out her inflection on the line 'image makers"). If one likes the Pretenders they will love this song because it sounds like every one of their songs. The form and the structure is a knock off. I would swear that Chrissy is playing the guitar and Stewart Copeland the drums. I KNOW they stole her (Chrissy Hinde's) equipment. Joni actually does a real close Chrissy Hinde vocal imitation; so much so in fact that she doesnt sound as much like Joni as she does Chrissy. Jonis imitating virtually all of Chrissy's inflections and coming damn close to her accent. Scary. While I may sound critical its still well done and in the terms of the LAMM it "works". Of course a multi-million dollar studio frequently does. I do think they missed their chance to have Sting do a background wailing "I want my MTV" like he did for Knopfler on Money for Nothing. But as I said the music works. The verses are sung in a sort of monotonish hue of little emotional content leading into choruses that have the great synth hook and cheery atmosphere. Unlike the first song the lyrics here are also sparse but possibly among the most revealing (of her current mood) of all of Jonis songs (or are they Kleins). Fiction of the moralist Fiction of the nihilist Fiction of the innovator and the stylist Fiction of the killjoy Fiction of the charmer Fiction of the clay feet and the shining armour Fiction of the declaimers Fiction of the rebukers Fiction of the pro and the no nukers Fiction of the gizmo Fiction of the data Fiction of the this is this and that is that ahh! I got a strong sense that Joni knew she was in the clutches of this thing called the muisc industry to the point where it was beginning to drain her of her identity and her self. Was that lifestyle-induced or not I dont know but the verse here is revealing. I sort of picture her as a person waking up the next morning sitting on her bed wondering whether she should get up or not. A person to whom it has suddenly occurred how far she is away from what she was and what she wanted to be. "Your not in Saskatoon Toto". All her ideals are revealed to be trash. Shes lashed to the ferris wheel as opposed to the merry-go-round. Big time Up and down as opposed to round and round. Nothing is making sense to her as the lyrics are clearly saying and I am mostly referring to her music. From the melodic folk era to Hejira style suddenly Joni is seemingly yeilding to the ideas of others. The song is very much different than any one that we know or strongly suspect that Joni had the final say in production and mixing. It seemed to me that she played the song on a guitar for "the boys" and they immediately went off and imposed their own style and feel. I could even imagine them telling her how it would go down. Production decisions already made maybe even tracks laid down prior to her entering the studio . I sensed that she is being pushed and cattle prodded in a direction that she knows is not "her". There is a feeling of exasperation in her voice when I listen to this song. Like a prisoner of war blinking S-O-S to the camera while they praise the enemy for the folks back home. However the classic LA sound which can turn any song into a viable product works on this as well. As such in spite of its knock off police style makes this a very strong song music and lyric wise. Ill give it an 7 1/2. The Three Great Stimulants I started to really like this song the third time I heard it. The first time I was distracted by the 'tick' track which again was a scourge of the 80s production values where the producers first discovered the Fairlight and the "good" drum machines and felt that this gave them perfection. Of course it also liberated their recording sessions from cranky to the max over coked drummers. And it also liberated the song from the atmosphere that can only come from a live drummer. The drum tracks on this song are those statement scale bouncing between speakers single blams that became the precurser of the modern movie sound track in which every little bit of sound becomes equal to the crash of a train. They perfected the drum track in the 80s and no song demonstrates that better than this one. This song also is filled with those classic keyboard and guitar fills you hear on many of the songs of that era like Sailing by Christopher Cross or Betty Davis Eyes by Kim Carnes or Maniac by Michael Sembello. The production also took on a replication of that other 80s monster producer in Peter Gabriel. He uses all kinds of sound effects to replace melodic instrumental parts and so in this song we hear a concrete power drill on the chorus. Very 80s and well done. The languorous repeating guitar line shimmering through a flange peddle. While there are some really great lyrics to this song also, the majority of the lyrics again vaporize into words that work but dont really mean much by themselves. Writing cryptic messages in your lyrics is a joni signiture but the lyrics here after multiple listens dont seem to be saying much to anyone. Artifice (pretense or deception) Brutality and Innocense. The three great stimulants. Motivators ? or opiates. Human nature's catalyst?? Possibly. The mystery of this began to distract me. How about The Exhausted Ones. What and who are they. People in other countries experiencing the wars referenced to, or us. Then I encountered the rosetta stone of the song in this verse. I saw a little lawyer on the tube He said "It's so easy now anyone can sue" "Let me show you how your petty aggravations can profit you!" Call for the three great stimulants Of the exhausted ones Artifice brutality and innocence Artifice and innocence Whats interesting to me is that this is not necessarily talking about just the 80s. This is deeper than corporate greed which everybody understands. This is a new kind of human greed. A lawyer advertising on night time cable is different than the hackneyed anti-corporate rant. Its also more focused on the root of the problem. People with such attitudes run corporations and the government as well as their lives. Oh these times, these times Oh these changing times Change in the heart of all mankind Oh these troubled times Knowing what we now know from Jonis recent interviews in which she waxes positively Nostradamusesque about the coming apocalypse we can safely say that while when she wrote these songs she may have believed that the Corporations were to blame . She knows the right wing doesnt run the music or media industry and yet she sees that this was when all the trouble started and she knows where it started. Last night I dreamed I saw the planet flicker Great forests fell like buffalo Everything got sicker And to the bitter end Big business bickered Intentional or not I began to ponder the lyrics of the song and lo and behold while doing so I come across this excerpt in the Congressional Hearings Reporter website I haunt. TIME WARNER chief executive Gerald Levin testified Thursday before a complete panel at the Federal Communications Commission. But candid comments made by Levin earlier this year during a media round table have some lawmakers in Congress concerned that something is foul with the latest greatest media marriage. Levin recently warned in the post-Cold War era there is only "American cultural imperialism." "There's no countervailing force, that's a significant problem," declared the man who will become the most powerful media executive in history if an AOL/TIME WARNER merger is approved by federal regulators. Levin sees a future where major media corporations take on responsibilities currently administered by governments. "We're going to need to have these corporations redefined as instruments of public service because they have the resources, they have the reach, they have the skill base, and maybe there's a new generation coming up that wants to achieve meaning in that context and have an impact, and that may be a more efficient way to deal with society's problems than governments," predicted Levin. [[I collect great quotes and I remembered this one and it really hit me after reading this]]] Abraham Lincoln’s letter to William F. Elkins, November 21, 1864? "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country…corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow [[ my remark: Hello Department of Commerce "trade missions"] , and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed." Joni's been warning us about the corporations for years. Little did she know it was TimeWarner -AOL who would become the threat. This stuff may be heavy for an album review but the womans work is so HEAVY it blows my mind. Little did I realize that DED was so psychic. Got to give this one an 8 1/2 Part 2 to be continued. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #439 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?