From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #375 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Saturday, July 8 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 375 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Not to Blame, Jackson and Joni... [RickieLee1@aol.com] Re: Diary Of A Decade ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Re: Not to Blame-JFK JR response [catman ] Re: Not to Blame, Jackson and Joni... ["Kakki" ] Re: Not to Blame, Jackson and Joni... ["Kakki" ] CDR Trade? CDR Weed/Tree? Mingus Tour in S.F. [david ] Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #373 [EVRIBUTJON@aol.com] Open letter from a first-poster [Zachary Scot Johnson Subject: Re: Diary Of A Decade Mark wonders: > I'm curious: is it just a image error or are the frames really in two > pieces? I wonder why she would want to do that (let alone put gold > leaf on perfectly good frames!) I'm so tempted to buy a Mendel book > after looking at these! No, Mark, it's just my crap photography! I was attempting to do a David Hockney on the paintings (you know, where he makes a whole picture by a composite of little pictures?), I thought I had to do that with the longer ones, but I didn't make it right.... that's what you get when you get art students going to exhibitions, they try to make art out of art.... Unless you're referring to the little 'additions' that Joni adds on to the frames... those acrylic 'pizzas' that she has nailed on to the frames... I can't answer for those but I have her on video explaining how she came about them. Much Joni Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 01:32:50 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Not to Blame-JFK JR response > > > > She has that effect at > times." > on. " > "Could she make you want to hit her? > Yes. I can't comment on whether or not Jackson hit Darryl or not, but I find the above quotes of JFK Jr to be rather disturbing. The person who is hit is not the person to blame. Someone else commented that Jackson would have ignored Joni's song if it were untrue. I don't agree. i think it would make someone much more angry and more likely to speak out against it. (I accept I may have misunderstood what the lister meant). Of course if it true, the angry defensive response is still what one would expect. So really jackson's response cannot really be used as a gauge in ascertaining the truth. It would seem we will never know. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:03:48 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Not to Blame, Jackson and Joni... Hi Rickie Lee, you wrote: >i find the statment JFK made to the interviewer, whoever she >was, rather compelling. I found them disturbing and untypically ungallant of him. Why not just say "no comment" to the interviewer? This is someone with whom he shared a long and close relationship. I found his statements very disrespectful of Hannah. >if hannah did, in fact, "flee" to jfk, would he not have seen the >alleged bruises, or at least SOME evidence of abuse, had >one actually taken place? apparently he did not... How could he have not?? Photos of her injuries were all over the papers as she was "fleeing" to be with JFK, Jr. I recall seeing several shots at the time of a severely bruised and blackened face, and a bandaged hand in the photos. These were not "alleged" - they were real and obvious. And why is JFK, Jr. implying that she was lying? I thought she never said he battered her from the beginning? So what did she lie about? It was her friends and family who said he did it. Or maybe people think she lied to them. What really got me after reading JB's rant and rage at Joni in the press was that his reaction was SO vicious that it made me wonder for the first time about his temper and showed me he wasn't all sweetness and light himself. It was much more a nasty attack on her than a reasoned defense on his part. Whatever - I still love his music and hope one day we might know the truth. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:22:20 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Not to Blame, Jackson and Joni... Hi Darice, While I won't throw my towel in on the JB side, I do appreciate your information. > One last point, Joni has made less than kind statements >about other performers; and David Geffen. Jackson is still >close to David Crosby, who Joni has been less than kind to >in the press(and was nowhere to be found after David's liver >transplant). Jackson still thanks Geffen for his support. Joni is not the only one who has a great distaste for Geffen. Judging from the two biographies written about him in recent years, he seems to have made many enemies over time and I recall reading that Henley is even more of a nemesis to him than Joni. I have only read excerpts of the latest Geffen bio but a list friend who read it told me that the bio relates that back in around 1994, Geffen, knowing that he had lost just about every friend and business relationship he ever had, held a big dinner party at his house in an attempt to get forgiveness and make peace with all these people. The bio reports that Joni attended that dinner and for awhile afterward they were on good footing again. Then something happened and she fell out with him again. As for Crosby, I have read in a few places where Joni was performing somewhere while Croz was in the hospital and she asked the audience to take a moment and say a prayer for him. She also collaborated with him on Yvette in English around the time he was seriously ill. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 16:03:43 -1000 From: david Subject: CDR Trade? CDR Weed/Tree? Mingus Tour in S.F. Aloha - I'm a new visitor to this list, so first of all a newbie hello to all... and now on to the crux of the biscuit... ' I recently found a great copy of JM's Mingus tour performances in San Fran on Sept. 7&8, 1979 (cassette master -->DAT) which I have remastered as a 3 CD set. A-/B+ quality IMHO. Based on the length of time that it took me to find a this HQ '79 tour tape, and the # of tape trader lists that I have perused, these shows do not seem to be widely circulated, and they should be... I would be interested in trades for HQ Y2K shows, or low gen 79 shows- especially Tanglewood 8/21/79 where I had 4th row seats. DAT or CDR trades preferred, but those that are able to burn CDs or spin tapes for others on this list will get preferential treatment. Aloha- David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:07:33 EDT From: EVRIBUTJON@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #373 Hi Everybody, Could somebody please send me the scan of Joni and her parents? I really would like to see it. Thanks. John (evributjon@aol.com) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:26:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Zachary Scot Johnson Subject: Open letter from a first-poster Hi. This is really the first time I've posted. I don't really have one topic, but I'll probably drift. First of all, thanks to all involved in making this list work. I always enjoy reading it. I've met many kind new people, everyone (I think taking their cue from Bob) is so kind! Joni's music brings people of the world together. I think that it's she's a thread tying us all together. I'm pretty young, I'll be 18 on Tuesday. I've always been suprized at the diversity of her fan following. People of every age love her and adore her. With all the tributes lately and her friends and fellow celebrities that publicly have praised her, she really seems to speak to everyone. I came across Joni via my parents. They had many of her LP's and Ladies of the Canyon on CD. My mother actually walked down the aisle to an instrumental version of "Morning Morgantown" which I also play now at weddings (I'm a hopeful singer-songwriter and actor, who lists Joni as his main musical influence along with just about everyone else in the world). Speaking of that song, does anyone know the reason she's shyed away from playing the piano? I loved the early 70's solo piano stuff, with Blue and Ladies and For the Roses. I don't know if Joni can ever possibly understand what she's meant to all of us. And on a side note, with this Jackson/ Joni stuff, now that Jackson is connected to Bonnie Raitt romantically, who is a huge fan of Joni's and a long-time friend, do you think perhaps Jackson and Joni will reconcile their differences? ~Zach __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! 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