From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #259 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Tuesday, May 16 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 259 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- "On the back of a..." ["Paul Castle" ] Joni jam at Kakki's [CarltonCT@aol.com] Permissions ["Paul Castle" ] Re: The Paz Report! (NJC) [LasaterJ@aol.com] Concord...and how!!! (NJC) ["Paul Castle" ] NJC:The Sixties-3 Different Ones [Chilihead2@aol.com] Concert? ["Patrick Lazzarotto" ] Re: The Sixties - 3 Different Ones (NJC) ["James L. Leonard" ] 'Double Dekker' (NJC) ["Paul Castle" ] RE: "' . . . cartoon poster in the blue " ["Peg Eves" ] Talk to the hand (NJC) ["kerry" ] NYC show...and Judy's! (NJC) [Emily Kirk Gray ] Joni LA Weekend [Catherine Turley ] Re: njc Re: Those Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry/Wilson ["Paul Castle" ] Re: njc Re: Those Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry/Wilson [MDESTE1@aol.com] RE: JMDL Digest V2000 #257 ["Carver, Dax" ] Joni Chicago tickets wanted! Help Please! [Phyliss Ward ] All Star Tribute on Tape [Bounced Message ] (Parody) Our Lady Siquomb NJC [Steve Polifka ] RE: 60's icon my butt ["Peg Eves" ] Re: Chuck Berry, wasThose Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry NJC ["Jim L'H] More misc. comments [Steve Dulson ] New state? (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] Re: Favorite Cover, Was Mooslems, Mooooslems! Heh, Heh, Heh, NJC ["Jim ] Re: (Parody) Our Lady Siquomb NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] Carly does Dave (NJC) [guitarzan@saber.net] Re: njc Re: Those Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry/Wilson ["Paul Castle" ] RE: Urge for Going Controversy ["Peg Eves" ] Brian Wilson ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: 60's icon my butt [Catherine McKay ] Re: 'Double Dekker' (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] RE: premium vinyl? ["Peg Eves" ] 'tis! (NJC) ["Paul Castle" ] acoustic/folk radio shows (NJC) ["Victor Johnson" Subject: "On the back of a..." Isn't the back cover of the BSN CD great? As someone who, for some reason, is regularly asked to give back massages and shoulder rubs, it makes me want to dig in! Maybe I'd get a hug in return! PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 04:10:18 EDT From: CarltonCT@aol.com Subject: Joni jam at Kakki's Scott Price echoes for me just how great it is to be with a group of people who not only can sing, but can sing nearly every lyric of every Joni song which is what happened at Kakki's the night after the concert. I have decided that when I grow up, I want to be just like Michael Paz, the perpetual big kid who has mastered the VG-8 and plays not only Joni songs from her well known past, but from her lesser known albums and even TTT. Michael also plays Yes and the Beatles with the same proficiency. True adults would have abandoned the pleasures of guitar playing long ago so that they could watch their stocks and bonds or worry about their mortgage and their lawn to now. I think I'll chew a piece of that bubble gum cigarette I got from Kakki at Coyote Rick's while I play my guitar before bedtime. - - Clark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:26:43 -0400 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Permissions Does anyone mind if we copy and paste these great concert reviews to off-list friends? PaulC (the writing here seems so much better than the media reviews). PS. Yesterday I picked up the May edition of 'Downbeat' magazine with Joni on the cover and big BSN article by Jason Koransky. Has this been discussed here already? There have been so many, I'm a little muddled. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 04:37:15 EDT From: LasaterJ@aol.com Subject: Re: The Paz Report! (NJC) PAZ Wrote "...and thanks to our new list sponsor,MaxiPads, we will have a "Tree" of this show..." LOL! In addition to the feminine hygiene product/digital recorder, we should also thank a certain JMDLer from Bakersfield, CA who managed to catch an hour or so of the show on her Sony video camera. Speaking of illegal recordings, I missed Saturday's festivities at the Kakki-shack and Les Deux Cafes because I was busy making copies of Prince bootlegs, Did not manage to get a copy of The Artist singing "A Case Of You," but I'll do that next time I visit my Princeophile friend in LA. I had a great trip. I'd enjoyed the time I spent with you JMDLers, and I'd especially like to thank Michael and Freda Paz, Rick and Brad, Mariana, and Kakki for their friendship and hospitality The Paz Report has inspired me to make plans for a trip to DC to catch one more show on the BSN tour.... look forward to seeing a few of you on May 25... - -John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:05:39 -0400 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Concord...and how!!! (NJC) Russ rustytrazom@hotmail.com wrote >If Kakki had been there, I probably would >have just fainted dead away. Oh, this is not unusual, Russ. I've heard Hollywood Boulevard of a Saturday afternoon is awash with fainting passers-by when she does her weekly grocery shop! PaulC PS. Love the review - I have opened a separate folder for all these. It's already overflowing and only two gigs into the tour. As suggested, I went off digest and into real time for these and had 94 emails when I woke up this morning. My problem is I 'have' to read them all. Can you get therapy for this? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 06:58:06 EDT From: Chilihead2@aol.com Subject: NJC:The Sixties-3 Different Ones Hi, Catching up on my movies now that I can't get out as much as I used to. Mrs. Chili and I had a once a week standing date at the local indie cinema for years. And before that we'd schlep to the Angelika on Mercer in NYC. I've seen only 3 films since the last back op and now catching up on tapes. "Boys Don't Cry" made this one cry. "Eyes Wide Shut" very cool and noir and the only Tom Cruise movie I've really liked. And then after just watching Austin Powers. The original. I had to figure out Mike Myers age to see if he was really around during the sixties. Yes he was born in 63. But it seems that the movie required no real sixties experience just watching "Laugh in reruns", old bond movies, and a lava lamp. Born in 61 and almost as old now as JFK, Jr when he died, I am glad that I had the opportunity not to miss the sixties as so many of my peers seem to have. I guess, I am about as young as you can be and still remember the sixties and I have always been thankful for that. My Mom and Joni are a year apart. The sixties IMHO were at least three decades in one. Remember this is all from a child's perspective and first hand experience. There was Camelot which of course ended with the death of JFK and I do remember that even though I was only 2. I remember the hysterical crying of my mother and great grandmother when it was announced on TV. Then there was the civil rights sixties where we fought hard as a nation to add to the bill of rights (only to later watch Reagan/Bush judicial appointees erode those hard won victories and continue to do so). Fighting a war in Vietnam. Fighting a war on racism. Fighting a civil war on both issues. Norman Rockwell drawing an African American child with a splattered tomato in the background. Ironically, I was on the campus of what became my alma mater from 65-70 because my father was a chef in the cafeteria there. I had people trying to tell me everything from Nietzsche to the facts of life. I saw the peace signs and the antiwar protests. My summers were spent at a camp run by a bunch of liberal college kids who sang folk songs at every meal. That's where I got my first taste of Joni. ( I have always thought there must be some anthology of all those campfire songs of the 60s ---if anyone knows of one, can you e-mail me?). And then of course there was the psychedelic sixties. The music. Flying to the moon. Flying on acid. Flying raids over Hanoi. The hip huggers. The folkies giving way to acid rock. I remember singing the "Fish" cheer. The sixties as a decade really didn't end with Woodstock and DEC of 69 (and yes my teacher did make us do the math to find out how old we would be when the millennium came). The war was still going on. The music was still being made. And the smart people like Joni knew to paddle as far away from the folkies as possible if you wanted to make it through the seventies with a career in tact. The end of the sixties I think really occurred when Saigon fell and the war ended. It put closure on a 10,000 day war and over 50,000 young Americans but it left hundreds of thousands with scars that could never be healed. And everyone felt entitled to have a big party and indulge themselves with as much sex, drugs, and rock and roll as they could possibly get at discos across the country. But of course the sixties never really ended. Of all the decades that came and went in the 20th century. The sixties will always standout. As time passes on and myths continue to grow around the sixties, the sixties will become their own century. A thousand years from now people will say, Man, I wish I was there. Man I am glad I was despite the war and the prejudice and Nixon and, etc., etc. Still it was a good time to be alive. And even if you weren't there or don't remember it for some reason, don't despair. There are little sixties sanctuaries here and there and everywhere. You just have to look for them. Like my Asparagus man who refuses to use any pesticides. Definitely sixties. People banding together to help the planet heal from the ravages of the Industrial Revolution. Very sixties. A cool bunch of folks who've banded together to listen to share some great music and call themselves the JMDL. Oh so pissah and sixties! That's what I remember hippies saying when they smoked their hookahs. Pissah. Does anybody else remember that word, too? Warmly, - -Chili Who would love a copy of that song that contains the lyrics. "Those were the days my friend we thought they'd never end. To sing and dance forever and a day......we were young and sure to have our way." Can anyone tell me if this available perhaps on anthology. Mr. Paz has given me the artist's name but I no longer have it. Any help locating is appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:01:06 -0400 From: "Patrick Lazzarotto" Subject: Concert? Does anyone know if and where Joni played a concert on August 8, 1998? Reply to me offline please. TIA. Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:27:15 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Re: The Sixties - 3 Different Ones (NJC) "Those Were The Days" was recorded by Mary Hopkins, and, if memory serves, was Apple Records first single, produced by Paul McCartney, in 1967 (?) or 1968. "Boston Jim" NP: DJRD, "Paprika Plains" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:19:35 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE:" cartoon poster, in the blue ...." I'm a new lister. Nice to meet you. YES!! The back of the BSN CD is WONDERFUL. I say, try the back rub thing, she might need it. And let's think of her extrordinary music as her embrace !!! Yes? I don't doubt I will hear it in the next life - or BE it..Cool? Peg/ VT > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Paul > Castle > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 8:52 AM > To: jmdl > Subject: "On the back of a..." > > > Isn't the back cover of the BSN CD great? > > As someone who, for some reason, is regularly asked > to give back massages and shoulder rubs, it makes me > want to dig in! Maybe I'd get a hug in return! > > PaulC > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:37:10 -0400 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: 'Double Dekker' (NJC) Catherine catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca wrote >Even though I would have loved it if you had decked >someone, Lindsay, you demonstrated grace, class >and good taste by not succumbing to your baser instincts! ;) Sorry Catherine, I just had to respond to this. Along with the other wags on this list, your posts keep making me burst out laughing, a strange and yet exhilarating experience when you are all alone in the house. I have definitely noticed a few odd looks from the neighbours. You better cut it out. PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:30:42 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: "' . . . cartoon poster in the blue " YES! The back of BSN is WONDERFUL. Try the back rub. Let's think of Joni's music as her embrace. And I'm certain her music will be the sound track in my next life - as it is now. I'll hear it, or BE it! Long live the Queen!! Later Peg > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Paul > Castle > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 8:52 AM > To: jmdl > Subject: "On the back of a..." > > > Isn't the back cover of the BSN CD great? > > As someone who, for some reason, is regularly asked > to give back massages and shoulder rubs, it makes me > want to dig in! Maybe I'd get a hug in return! > > PaulC > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 05:11:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Concert? - --- Patrick Lazzarotto wrote: > Does anyone know if and where Joni played a concert on August 8, 1998? Reply > to me offline please. TIA. Hi Patrick, Don't know about August 8, but exactly 1 week later, on August 15, Joni performed a wonderful set for us at Yasgur's Farm in Bethel NY. A Day In The Garden has been immotalized on the tape trees and also in an Infoseek video. It was wonderful. Brian ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:37:15 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: Talk to the hand (NJC) >>Catherine wrote: Talk to the hand" came from to begin with? All I know is, everyone, including my 9-yr old, seems to be saying it.)>> Hi, I heard my students doing this a lot a couple of years ago. (I guess it took a while to make it to Canada) :>) First you put your hand up to block someone who is bothering you and the whole thing is, "Talk to the hand, 'cause the face ain't listening!" Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 08:44:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Emily Kirk Gray Subject: NYC show...and Judy's! (NJC) hi alison and others! thanks for nudging me into a response -- i'm thrilled about this show and have been completely enthralled by the left coast responses as they come in. keep up the stellar reporting, everyone. i'm sorry i've been a bit MIA recently -- i'm having love and life turmoil (in a good way, but still). monday may 22nd i will be driving down from ithaca NY with my boyfriend courtney (who is interested in the show but keeps saying things like "um, who are we meeting up with before?" heh heh :)). so i will race back to brooklyn and then into manhattan to judy's. i can maybe get there by 6ish. i look forward to meeting all of you! david lahm is the only jmdler i've ever met -- at judy's earlier this year. and i must add that getting to hear him play will be part and parcel of our big wonderful music night. he's fantastic! - -- emily NP: "be cool" (doesn't the wayne shorter sax here sound just like it will on TTT? i forget which song, though) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 01:45:55 -0700 From: Catherine Turley Subject: Joni LA Weekend Guess its time to post my concert report--other folks have covered the setlist and music very well, so I'll just add my .02. I know I'm a little tardy here, but I've been busy trying to readjust to life as mild mannered housewife after my weekend stint as Hollywood Party Girl. Unfortunately, I had to forego Coyote Rick's faboolus pre-concert party on Friday for a painfully slow tour of the sights, sounds and smells of the Hollywood Freeway. :- ( Fortunately, Rick was kind enough to grant me and my SoCal pal Carrie a private audience on Saturday at Les Deux Cafes, so that made up somewhat for missing his party. :-) Carrie and I did arrive at the Greek in time to make the long trek up the stairs to our not so fabulous seats (but I'm not complaining too loudly--I felt lucky to be there, and as Paz mentioned, the sound at the Greek was perfect). We were there in plenty of time and struck up some conversations with our fellow bench sitters. Several JMDLers commented afterwards on what they perceived to be less than polite behavior from many in the audience, and I certainly felt that too, but in hindsight it occurs to me that many folks in the audience were series subscribers, who may just have picked Joni's concert as one of several because they were familiar with her radio hits, and consequently weren't expecting the orchestra and standards. I heard a few grumblings like "play something we know," (which is funny in light of the story Joni later told before Judgment of the Moon and Stars--about a friend of Beethoven's who urged him to write music which included well known themes, because "people they like to hear something familiar, and all your stuff is just too personal . .. if you really want to be internationally famous, what you need to do is give them something that they want . . .") Guess my point is that many in the audience were not cultists like we (thank you Kakki--an excellent term). As a matter of fact, our conversation with our neighbors included some comments that I felt were ignorant and unduly harsh, and since they didn't seem like ignorant and harsh people, I felt duty bound to set them straight, as politely as I could. The sort of embarrassing result was that I instantly became resident Joni geek, and had to field a barrage of questions from several women sitting nearby. Makes me laugh because they seemed to just accept my Solomonic pronouncements on all things Joan. Among the mysteries I illuminated: "What's with the cigarettes?" My answer: "Chain smoker." Their reply "Ohhhhhhhh . . . ." (heads nodding in unison). Also, "What's that Paved Paradise song about?" My answer: "Hawaii." Their reply: "Ohhhhhhhhh . . .. ." (heads still nodding). Very high octane exchanges. There was a certain amount of restlessness in the audience in the first half of the concert (me included), but after intermission, once Joni got into her own compositions, she really had the audience. Sometime during Hejira I had one of those weird detached, self-conscious moments in which I realized that I was over my own nerves and restlessness and was a little overwhelmed by how intensely I was feeling those songs. I finally took my eyes off the stage and scanned the audience from my bird's eye view--no wandering people, no talkers--everyone focused and attentive. The Power of Joan. I'm reaching my word limit here, but I can't close without seconding everyone's comments about what an amazing thing the JMDL community is. On the drive to the concert, my friend Carrie, whom I've known forever, asked me if I didn't think it was weird that I'd left my husband and child in another state and was going off to hang out with people I only knew through the computer. That can be a daunting idea, but it is offset by the fact that every in-person JMDL gathering I've been to has been full of talented, witty, generous, smart, kind and accepting people. (And they even let me come along for the ride!) I really felt how unique and precious it was to reconnect with old friends and to meet new people who were only email addresses to me before. There were so many people who made the events memorable, and I'll probably leave someone out if I make a list, but of course special thanks are due to the Hollywood hosts, Coyote Rick, and of course, Uber JMDLer and hostess extrordinaire, Kakki. Take care all-- Catherine T. in AZ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 14:04:51 -0400 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: njc Re: Those Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry/Wilson Bob bobm@kayaker.com >Nice to know Berry (to whom all rock and rollers, >including Joni, owe a huge debt) at least got his >due on this one... Am I muddling him up with someone else, but didn't I hear that he used his royalties on this to install security cameras in his own club. You wouldn't catch me taking a pee in there! PaulC (who saw Chuck Berry at Alexanda Palace - using mediocre local English back-up musicians - not much real 'R & B' going on there - did his one hour, no more, no less, and then got out of there quick. I kept shaking my head saying "Why? When you could command the greatest musicians in the world and leave everyone duck-walking off into the night?" Alexandra Palace burnt down not long after, although I don't think that had much to do with security cameras! I hope we don't hear too many complaints about no encores on this Joni tour. Just think, she could have probably picked up a few crappy English fiddle players and a tone deaf trombonist and still have sold out The Greek. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:51:04 -0400 From: "Russel Springham" Subject: DC tix gone now Hello again my friends, The 2 tickets for Merriweather Post I offered yesterday have been taken by a good friend who loves Joni. So alas, I no longer have them to offer, but 2 very nice people will have a great time. Enjoy, Russ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:51:49 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: njc Re: Those Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry/Wilson I have personally known several musicians who actually got to play with Chuck Berry and the stories while similar are all hillarious because everyone asks the same question about him...."Why?". It seems all his career Chuck has pulled the same number. he demands absolute cash up front or he doesnt go on. He shows up alone with his guitar (always totally recklessly untuned) at the very last instant and goes directly up to the club managers office where he gets his envelope with the cash. the band must be assembled by the club and the musicians are supposed to be professional or at least proficient in his songs to be able to back him up for that particular night. Some of his shows have been comedic they were so bad. He hits the stage and launches into whatever song he thinks up and his instruments are almost never tuned to the rest of the band. The band has no chance to prepare and everything just flys on the edge until his last song after which he blows out the doors to his waiting limo. One of the best rock documentaries ever is the story of Chuck Berry throughout which Kieth Richards assembled a monster band to celebrate Chucks 60th birthday and it got so ridiculous that he and Chuck literally got in a fist fight. Great theater. It seems Chuck believes strongly that Ronck and Roll in its purest form has to be all jangly and raunchy with at least half the strings out of tune. When he is sober Chuck Berry is one of the most intelligent and cogent people ever in rock history. He is poignant in his views and commentary to an incredible degree and I believe is still married to his first wife of many years. I sat transfixed throughout the entire documentary. I also asked myself many times "Why does he do his music the way he does". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:56:23 -0400 From: "Carver, Dax" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2000 #257 Oh, yeah, this is definitely true. I'm a long time fan of Clannad and Maire has been around a lot longer than Enya. I love Enya too. I did not, however, enjoy Maire's version of BIG YELLOW TAXI. dax > -----Original Message----- > From: BMBSPIRIT@cs.com [SMTP:BMBSPIRIT@cs.com] > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 11:27 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #257 > > An interesting tidbit for American fans of Maire Brennan. I saw Mary Black > in > concert in NYC the night Ireland beat Italy at the Meadowlands a few years > > ago and she made a comment about Maire. She said in the states people know > > Maire as the sister of Enya, but among musical artists in Ireland, Enya is > > known as the sister of Maire. > > > Bernie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:05:14 -0400 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) Scott sp@olympus.net wrote >Vince Mendoza deserves special kudos for arranging >all these classic Joni numbers. I'm now curious about >how much input Joni and perhaps Larry are giving >Mr. Mendoza as he transcribes. He is capturing the >"musically complex and advanced" qualities you write >of very well. In the Downbeat article I mentioned earlier (and truly sorry if this has already been covered - had to go out for a while and can't keep up. (Linda, I missed your call - sob! Send me yours off-list and I'll call you after 6pm (here) when calls are a little cheaper) Vince Mendoza says, "All those songs were arranged with Joni's voice in mind", says Mendoza, whose own recent orchestral album, 'Epiphany' (Zebra), was nominated for a Grammy. "Her voice has changed a lot over the years ever since the first recording; it has gotten so much more interesting and colorful. Her delivery is so much more interesting. We see breadth of experience now and the words mean more now than they ever did. I had her contemporary sound in my head. 'Turbulent Indigo' is probably one of my most-valued albums - I know it backwards and forwards. I approached arranging every piece like a tone poem, like Strauss would write around a vocalist. Understanding the words and knowing when to move and when not to move, when to accentuate the lyrics and when not to. I learned a lot of that from Joni, how she writes and how she delivers the lyrics." There is more, but I want to get back to reading now. Buzzy here today, isn't it? PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:31:35 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Purple Spinnaker Steve could you be just a little more graphic and descriptive please. marcel. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:40:01 -0400 From: "Bob Muller (Perception)" Subject: RE: njc Re: Those Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry/Wilson Paul said: < I hear that he used his royalties on this to install > security cameras in his own club. >> > No muddle...he put cameras in the ladies room of his own club, not for security but for his own perverted pleasure...so the guy has a fetish, he's a legend, so cut him some slack! :~) Hey Paz...maybe if I come up with a parody, we can play a version of "Joni B. Good" at N.O.! :~) Bob NP: Cedell Davis, "Cedell's Boogie" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:52:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: Ellen DeGeneres Ticket (NJC) Ordinarily I wouldn't use this list for something personal, but I'm in a bind and besides, my preference is always to offer good things to folks on the JMDL. I have one single ticket for Ellen DeGeneres's performance tonight at the Kennedy Center in Washington, DC. The seat is terrific -- first box! Price is $50, with the added attraction (however dubious) of sitting next to me! Show starts at 8:30 pm. Please respond to me directly at lrfye@yahoo.com. Crossing my fingers, Lori in DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:58:38 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Joni Chicago tickets wanted! Help Please! Hi all Ever since Friday night I've been wanting to 'do it again'. After exploring a few other options I just had a lightbulb experience. I'll be in N'awlins for Joni fest through the 30th when I fly home to California. Lo and behold, American airlines has me coming back through Chicago of all places. Coincidente? Joni is there that night. So, I'm thinkin', miss my planc, extend my stay there, catch the concert, fly home afterwards. So, HELP! I am looking for one GOOD SEAT for this concert. Of course, any get-together info would be appreciated too. Phyliss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 11:13:30 -0400 From: "Bob Muller (Perception)" Subject: NJC Joni Chicago tickets wanted! Help Please! <> Man, Phyliss, you are addicted! :~) What a great idea...hey, I'll be in N.O., you got a big duffle bag? :~D Bob NP: Sonny Stitt, "Night Work" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:25:26 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: joni tickets From: "Thomas White" Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:58:06 -0400 i have two tickets for may 17 in west palm beach. the seats are 19th row center. unfortunately i am unable to attend the show. i would like to sell the tickets. if you are interested please call 561-792-8732. thanks, a sad joni fan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:23:42 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: All Star Tribute on Tape From: "Kurt Joachim von Behrmann" Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:32:24 -0700 May 15 2000 Joni Mitchell All Star Tribute From: Kurt von Behrmann I was reading the list and noticed that someone was asking if anyone taped the all star tribute. Well this was one time when I made a copy and it is still intact. I made a copy because I wanted to write a review of it for Themestream on the Internet. If you want to read what I have said, just visit themestream. For the moment I can't recall the url, but if you look up www.oscartech.com you should find the place on the web. If anyone here is an aspiring writer and wants to place their opinions about such things as say Joni Mitchell, please visit Themestream. I have also noted that VH1 is doing a whole 60' and 70's thing Monday and following up on Tuesday. While I was watching the 60's installment, the sound bite for the next episode mentioned Joni Mitchell by name along with other artists famous in the 70's. It maybe worth watching. The 1960's segment was pretty good. For cradle babbies, which is what Joan Beaz calls people from my generation, it was like a walk back to childhood. I can't believe the 60's are so long ago. At any rate, thanks. Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:33:05 -0500 From: Steve Polifka Subject: (Parody) Our Lady Siquomb NJC Hello all, This is for my Florida friends about to see the goddess... Our Lady Siquomb (Sung to 2 Grey Rooms) Today is Tuesday Now there's only one more day to go Till you go that night To see our Lady Siquomb The weekend drove you mad All those west-coast reviews Made you glad That you will see our Lady Siquomb No one straight- or queer Could make that love disappear Her on that stage to be so near What a view! Only when she sings high Our Lady Siquomb She looks so youthful Time has been untruthful Heaven knows we loved her Thirty years ago Those songs of 'love so sweet' Still we wish it's her we'd meet Still the longing lasts For our Lady Siquomb No one straight- or queer Could make that love disappear Her on that stage to be so near What a view! Only when she sings (sigh) Our Lady Siquomb... That Lady Siquomb... Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:53:33 EST From: "E Zattly" Subject: Monday 5/22 tickets I have a pair for 5/22, Theater at Madison Square Garden. Section 200, Row Y, Seats 19 & 20. At cost: $177. Steve ezattly@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 11:42:02 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: 60's icon my butt Thanks Paul. Back at ya. Do any of you relate to this: I have such a sensitivity to Joni's music, to her throbbing insights, her charged musical changes - her DISCOVERY that there have been times in my life when I had to avoid listening to it. Times when if I were feeling a certain kind of weariness , mood or laziness of being - I'm just not up to it because she ALWAYS makes me FEEL and I confess, there have been times I haven't wanted to. So I would play anything but Joni. Isn't that wierd? More often though, she soothes and emboldens me. Long live the Queen!!! Thanks people, Peg/VT > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Castle [mailto:pdcmusic@freeuk.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 1:22 PM > To: Peg Eves > Subject: Re: 60's icon my butt > > > Lovely first post, Peg, and welcome from a > London-based reader - about a year now and > I still love it, everyday with my morning coffee. > > This is a rich and rewarding community made > up, as someone said a while back, of every > facet of the extended family - from favourite > Aunts, to slightly oddball Uncles - but most of > whom show genuine respect and deep knowledge > of 'The Enchanted Lady'. > > I have a feeling you'll be sticking around, even > when your life gets hellish and fraught. If you are > anything like me, since the first time I saw her > (late 60's), she has been the centre of excellence > to which I have merely aspired. > > And it's a really good laugh, somedays! > > Talk soon > > PaulC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peg Eves > To: Lori R. Fye > Cc: > Sent: 15 May 2000 15:32 > Subject: RE: 60's icon my butt > > > > God. Anyone who thinks Joni Mitchell is merely a 60's icon is gravely > > uninformed and I'm so glad you DID set them straight. Thank YOU. > > > > Isn't she a blessed genius??Communicating with people who SEE > the enormity > > of her art and relate to it like I do - is a dream come true. I > have often > > felt isolated in my reverence for her work. For 30 years - and now - I > > DON'T. Way cool people!! > > > > Thank you for your impeccable taste! > > > > Peg from Vermont > > New lister > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On > Behalf Of Lori > > > R. Fye > > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 1:12 PM > > > To: joni@smoe.org > > > Subject: Time Out.com replies ... > > > > > > > > > Last week, in the midst of my annoyance over Time > > > Out.com's reference to Joni as a "sixties icon," I > > > wrote to them, repeating much of my recent letter to > > > the JMDL (regarding Joni's release of only two albums > > > in the 60s versus nine albums in the 70s, no > > > appearance at 1969's Woodstock, et cetera). I just > > > received this reply: > > > > > > --- Dean Irvine wrote: > > > > > > > Wow, thanks for all the info on Joni. Never will she > > > > be referred to as a '60's icon on TO's pages. > > > > > > Glad to know that! > > > > > > Lori, slowly trying to set the record straight, > > > in DC > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > > > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:13:16 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Chuck Berry, wasThose Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry NJC This hasn't stopped Mr. Berry from recruiting at least one very young woman in each city he visits according to Rolling Stone. The younger the better and he's not uhm.... particular enough to actually ask for id to establish legality. - ----- Original Message ----- > I believe is still married > to his first wife of many years. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:17:03 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: More misc. comments Steve J. wrote (at the end of an especially fab fashion report): >We heard about the moon and stars, went traveling in >some vehicle, and pretty soon we were left with an >empty spotlight. Thanks for reminding me of that! The empty spotlight was such an obvious lighting cue for the end of FTR, but it was SO effective. Chilling! and Jimmy wrote: >*Boones Farm Strawberry Hill wine*, enjoy the concert Rick and Kakki had a bottle for me at Casa Alegre - fortunately, they did not make me drink it. :) and Nickel Chief wrote: >"Ludwig Sings the Blues (For Free)." I love it! I hope it inspires one of our parody kings or queens! ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:19:24 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: New state? (NJC) Peg wrote: >Brookline, VY 05345 Velocity? Vapidity? Variety? Validity? :) ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:25:34 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Favorite Cover, Was Mooslems, Mooooslems! Heh, Heh, Heh, NJC My favorite is "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter" for its naked lady content. Hey, straight guys can state their preference sometimes too, right? As long as I don't _flaunt_ it right? :) Don't hate me because I'm a middle American. :) Lamadoo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:27:54 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: (Parody) Our Lady Siquomb NJC In a message dated 5/16/00 11:37:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, polifkas@milwaukee.tec.wi.us writes: << his is for my Florida friends about to see the goddess... Our Lady Siquomb (Sung to 2 Grey Rooms) Today is Tuesday Now there's only one more day to go >> Hey Steve, that was GREAT! I can't wait til tomorrow (except for the drive). I've had very little sleep the past two nights because of the excitement of seeing Joni again. Thanks for the wonderful parody, now you're gonna have to write another 9 more for the rest of the concert goers. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:10:16 -0700 From: guitarzan@saber.net Subject: Carly does Dave (NJC) Carly Simon will appear on the Letterman show Wed. & on ABC's "Good Morning America" Fri. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 18:07:13 -0400 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: njc Re: Those Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry/Wilson Bob > Hey Paz...maybe if I come up with a parody, we can play a version of > "Joni B. Good" at N.O.! :~) Great. I knew it wouldn't take more than a little tickle on the slut's Achilles heel to provoke him into another masterpiece. You'll have to go some to beat Leslie's this time, though. But you can do it! Sorry about the cheap joke. Had no intention of going into the private world of Chuck Berry. His music has always made me feel great and on that front I have the greatest respect. Grant me my point about his live show, though, surely. He could choose just about anyone to play with him for nothing - just for the craic - and I can't believe that if he's going to keep performing, he wouldn't prefer a reputation for 'really cooking' on stage still. PaulC NP. 'Hi Rollers Y'All' by Beau Jocque & The Zydeco Hi-Rollers PS. Hot and spicy around her today. oooooooyeh! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:21:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Bay Area Show - LONG I loved your whole post, Leslie, but this part cracked me right up! - --- Bounced Message wrote: > Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:36:33 -0700 > From: Leslie Mixon > >After I came out of the stall a woman in the bathroom >said, "I heard you >in the bathroom, how much are you selling that for?" >I was blowing my >nose and she thought I was snorting coke! Somehow, >that seemed hilarious to me. (You should have sold her some! Bathroom woman: Is that coke? Leslie: No it snot. :-D ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:36:37 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: Urge for Going Controversy Hmmmmmm. She's even got it in her book "Joni Mitchell, The Poems & Lyrics" ; First page - Urge For Going. That came out in, what/ '96? I don't wonder who wrote it. She wrote it. I don't need to hear that from her. It's not consistant with who she is to put someone elses lyrics in her book without crediting them. I can't doubt it just 'cuz someone said such a thing. Out of the question. Of course it's Joni's song. Long live the Queen!!! Peg/VT > -----Original Message----- > From: P. Henry [mailto:badwolff@angelfire.com] > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 8:00 PM > To: peves@marlboro.edu > Subject: Re: Urge for Going Controversy > > > On Mon, 15 May 2000 17:40:27 peves wrote: > >About URGE: What's the question here? > > > >Peg from Vermont > > > > > Peg, > regarding the song, Urge For Going, by Joni Mitchell, 'the > question here' is as follows, originally posed by the JMDL > listowner, Les Irvin: > > "Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 11:20:35 -0600From: Les Irvin > Subject: Urge for controversy > Joniphiles - > Long time listers may remember the brief appearance a few years > ago of a woman who delurked and innocently proclaimed that "her > father wrote the song 'Urge For Going' and sold it to Joni". > Needless to say, she was met > with considerable derision and never posted again. > I've often thought about her claim and wondered. Urge for Going > has always seemed to me to be an "odd" Joni song. The chord > structure and the melodic flow seem to be unlike anything else > she was doing at the time. > Certainly, it wasn't uncommon to "lift" melodies from other > sources - I'm probably > wrong, but I don't think Dylan wrote an original melody until 1964. > On the other hand, why would Joni be "purchasing" a song at a > time when her creativity was overflowing? The wealth of > as-yet-unreleased songs she wrote during that period certainly > sheds huge doubt on this claim. Could be that Joni just fell in > love with the song and "had to have it". Or, > could be that this woman's father is full of crap and the song is > indeed 100% Joni's. > Thoughts anyone? > Pat... Cul... you were both there during that time, no? Any insight? > Les" > > if you would like to follow the thread and the various > responses, including my own, you can go here: > http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/v2000.n230 > and see the digest wherein this post appeared, > and, furthermore, by advancing the last number in the URL (ie: > 230, 231, etc) you can view the consecutive digests and the > resulting responses. > hope that is a complete and comprehensive reply to your question. > > pat > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 12:01:59 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Brian Wilson I just learned that Brian Wilson will be performing Pet Sounds with the Santa Barbara Symphony Orchestra! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 14:09:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: 60's icon my butt - --- Peg Eves wrote: > > Do any of you relate to this: I have such a > sensitivity to Joni's music, to > her throbbing insights, her charged musical changes > - her DISCOVERY that > there have been times in my life when I had to avoid > listening to it. Times > when if I were feeling a certain kind of weariness > , mood or laziness of > being - I'm just not up to it because she ALWAYS > makes me FEEL and I > confess, there have been times I haven't wanted to. > So I would play anything > but Joni. Isn't that wierd? More often though, she > soothes and emboldens me. > Oh yeah, do I ever! (Sometimes you want to read junky novels or pig out on junk food too.) ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 14:11:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: 'Double Dekker' (NJC) - --- Paul Castle wrote: > Sorry Catherine, I just had to respond to this. > Along with the > other wags on this list, your posts keep making me > burst out > laughing, a strange and yet exhilarating experience > when > you are all alone in the house. I have definitely > noticed a few > odd looks from the neighbours. You better cut it > out. Not unless you do it first! ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 14:56:51 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: premium vinyl? Thanks yourself and it's good to be home. Long live the Queen!!! Peg/VT > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim L'Hommedieu [mailto:jlamadoo@one.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 2:05 PM > To: Peg Eves > Subject: Re: premium vinyl? > > > thanks but no thanks. welcome home to jmdl though. :) > > jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peg Eves" > To: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 1:56 PM > Subject: RE: premium vinyl? > > > > Jim, > > > > I have about 7 records in really good shape, 2 Jerry Garcia (not the > Dead), > > 2 The Band (Islands, Northern Lights, Southern Cross) , Brain Salad > Surgery > > (ELP), Burton Cummings (canadian, of course) singer & writer & > key player > > for The Guess Who. Weren't they wonderful?? Don't think any is > collectible - > > maybe the BC. Don't know if it's available in CD, > > > > The Jerry albums : the one with Mission In The Rain, Tore Up > and the other > > with Sugaree & Deal, etc. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jim L'Hommedieu [mailto:jlamadoo@one.net] > > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 6:00 PM > > > To: peves@marlboro.edu > > > Subject: Re: TRADE: TNT for JONI BOOTLEG > > > > > > > > > Of course. But it's usually too expensive to ship unless it's > > > special. Do > > > you have anything collectable or on premium vinyl? > > > > > > > > > By the way, the JMDL community has tons of Joni concerts > > > available free. I > > > can make just about any of them free for ya. You can figure out where > you > > > want to start at: > > > http://216.247.66.89/trading/index.cfm > > > > > > then email me back. Or just post a request. We're all > pretty friendly > > > here. :) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 5:24 PM > > > Subject: Re: TRADE: TNT for JONI BOOTLEG > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > > > Shoot. Got a message from Bob earlier so unless I don't get another > > > > message confirming, the boot is his. Thank you . > > > > > > > > I've got other vinyl I'll never listen to. Want it? > > > > > > > > Peg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:50:08 -0400 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: 'tis! (NJC) Catherine catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca wrote >(You should have sold her some! >Bathroom woman: Is that coke? >Leslie: No it snot. >:-D The neighbours have just come round and asked if I could keep the noise down! PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:42:14 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: acoustic/folk radio shows (NJC) If anybody listens to an acoustic/folk radio show, you can now call up and request my song "Way to Blue". It was included on the Oasis Duplication Sampler cd and distributed to several hundred radio stations across the United States and Canada + the "Folkswagon Show" in Lincolnshire, England. A good step towards getting some airplay. Victor http://www.mindspring.com/~waytoblu/Tangled.htm NP: Leo Kotke-Ice Water ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:22:44 -0400 From: "Bill Dollinger" Subject: Re: "Hopefully" (was Re: Joni and the Dalai Lama) (NJC) Excuse me, but shouldn't it be "life is too short to get hanged up" bill back from africa and hoping to repost soon There are certain speech patterns or trendy > sayings or misspellings that sometimes drive me nuts, > but I try to hold that snooty anal side in check - > life is too short to get hung up on what is ultimately > not that important. > > ===== > Catherine (in Toronto) > catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca > > _______________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #259 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?