From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #257 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Monday, May 15 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 257 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Mitchell's Dull Twist On Standards (SF Chronicle review5/15/00 - warning: concert material (and unkind at that!) [] Concord...and how!!! ["Russell Bowden" ] Re: Concert Programs - all gone now! [Richard Goldman ] Re: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) [Catherine McKay ] Joni Greeting Cards are here!!! [mann@chicagonet.net] njc Re: Those Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry/Wilson ["Bob Muller (Percept] Joni at Woodstock/was: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) [Scott Price ] NJC Juliana's Dilemma ["Bob Muller (Perception)" ] Re: NJC Juliana's Dilemma ["James L. Leonard" ] Re: And another voice chimes in....(Long!) ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Re: NJC Juliana's Dilemma [Catherine McKay ] Re: Concert reviews, etc. ["Alison Einerson" ] Re: 'Goers' (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] Cassette Recording of TNT Tribute to Joni- FREE- ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Purple Spinnaker [Ken Corral ] Re: Joni at Woodstock/was: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) [Brian Gr] Cassette Recording of TNT Tribute to Joni- FREE- ["Bob Muller (Perception] RE: 60's icon my butt ["Peg Eves" ] RE: NJC Juliana's Dilemma ["Bob Muller (Perception)" ] More thoughts... [Steve Dulson ] Re: Joni Thru the Eyes of a 9 year old [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: San Francisco Examiner review of Saturday's concert ["Kakki" ] Re: Purple Spinnaker ["Kakki" ] Re: LA Times article re: Friday concert ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] RE: TRADE: TNT for JONI BOOTLEG [peves@marlboro.edu] pre-concert meeting plans 5/22 ["Alison Einerson" ] Re: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) [Scott Price ] Re: Those Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry/Wilson (NJC) [Vince Lavieri ] Re: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) [peves@marlboro.edu] Detroit Concert - May 31 [Hyatt McClennen ] City of Angels NJC [Scott Price ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:22:54 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell's Dull Twist On Standards (SF Chronicle review5/15/00 - warning: concert material (and unkind at that!) "Richard Goldman (by way of Les Irvin )" wrote: > Joni Mitchell's Dull Twist On Standards > > Joel Selvin, Chronicle Pop Music Editor > Monday, May 15, 2000 > ------------ > Nobody sings Joni Mitchell like Joni Mitchell. > > > > A lot of women in rock have tried this gambit -- notably Linda Ronstadt, > whose three albums with famous arranger Nelson Riddle revived her sagging > commercial fortunes in the mid-'80s -- but, sadly, Mitchell isn't even as > good at this as Toni Tennille. I have to comment. I just saw Toni Tenille Saturday evening with the Florida Orchestra here in St. Petersburg. She did a show called Great American Love songs which is very similar to Joni and Larry's concept. Even I Wish I Was In Love Again was there. While it was a most enjoyable show, it can nowhere touch Joni's interpretations on BSN. And I think Miss Tenille herself would admit that. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:24:52 PDT From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: Concord...and how!!! Hey Gang! I am back from the shadows and on top of the world. Recently re-re-located to SF after 6 months in Eugene, OR. Haven't posted for a couple of months...nice to be back. Well, I attended the JM BSN concert at the Pavillion on Sat. night, and am just pinching, slapping, clubbing myself to assure myself it was all real. I last saw Joni in Boston in '83...so I was way overdue for this. My best friend ( a recent convert to the Goddess) drove us over to Concord from SF in his vintage Cadillac Seville...an eveing of elegance, indeed!! Arrived early to case the joint and look for listers. Wound up sitting beside the tuba player's wife, who told me great stuff about hearing Joni warm up that afternoon, and about her husband getting the call asking if he was interested in playing the gig. She told me her husband had been a HUGE Joni fan since he was a young man and screamed with joy that he was going to be in the orchestra backing her up. He is also the 1st tuba in the San Francisco Opera Orchestra!! The woman (Susan) told me that security was extremely tight and that getting to La Mitchell was nearly impossible. During the intermission, I marched down to the stage with my trusty JoniMitchell.com denim shirt on and was accosted by Mark (Seattle), Leslie Mixon, MG, and I am sorry I forgot the other guy's name that you all introduced me to. THIS WAS MY FIRST FACE TO FACE MEETING WITH ANY OF THE LISTERS....I certainly got the big guns, didn't I? If Kakki had been there, I probably would have just fainted dead away. Did you guys hear me holler "You've Changed" (her outfit) when she came back for the 2nd half of the show?? I loved her rap about all the crap that the music business is supporting...fabulous.... Her 'Trouble Man' left the inside of my head screaming with delight. The two from FTR, Hejira and Be Cool turned me into a drooling babbling fool. BLISS!!!!!!!! How cool it must be to have Herbie Hancock pop out to back you up for a couple of tunes...that man is amazing. The evening, the moon and stars and The Goddess herself....a defining moment of my life. For those who are waiting to see this show.....hang on!!! For those who are far away, I can't wait to hear your takes on the future show that you will see and I won't. Much love, Russ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:42:40 -0700 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: Concert Programs - all gone now! I got a small flurry of requests and the first 4 (you know who you are) will get one from me. Sorry about the rest who replied. And it occurs to me: if at the other/future venues...if people are willing to pick up 'extra' programs (lots and lots) and post here that they are willing to mail them to 'needy non-concert-goers', then more people could get to have and hold something from this terrific tour? Just a thought.... Richard Goldman richard2sf@earthlink.net =======original post - --- Richard Goldman wrote: > Wow...I figured the program would show up on eBay... > > Well... without placing judgement...now I wished I'd > gotten about a hundred > extras, but... only got 4. And so... the first 4 > folks who email me and > want one, they're yours. Just send me your > address, and off they go. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:43:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Joni/Toni Comparisons? Hmmm ... now I've heard Toni Tenille's jazz albums, and they are actually quite good. Toni's got the chops for it, but her approach to it is SO different from Joni's as to be beyond any reasonable sense of a fair comparison. Toni Tenille sings the songs, hits the notes, but doesn't really make much of an effort to do much past performing them well. This is a good thing, I for one, would not want to hear a version of "Comes Love" that sounds anything like "Muskrat Love" -- would you? Joni, on the other hand, appropriates the material, making it her own -- giving those lovely standards a new coat of that "Canadian folkie" lyrical phrasing (yeah, so shoot me) -- that makes BSN stand out from efforts like Linda Rondstandt's, Toni Tenille's and the others who've gone before. LA Times: 15 -- SF Chronicle: love Don Rowe ===== "I want a stillness inside, and a quiet of mind, and to stop dreaming of the comfort of strangers." -- Julia Fordham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:50:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) Trying to catch up on a backlog of posts, I just want to say a big "Thank YOU" to all those who have posted their reviews. I wish I could have been there. (Damn, I'm so jealous...) - --- Lindsay Moon wrote: > Am still wondering about some of the crowd. I was > amazed at how many times > people were in and out of their seats in the middle > of her songs. If > anyone in my row had tried it, I might have lost > control of a metal nail > file into someone's thigh ... (I know, I look so > innocent). and > Then after > the concert some guy > two rows down was complaining about "Joni Stupid > Mitchell." Looking at me > with my beatific grin he said, "did *you* like it?" > I said I *loved* it, > and he remarked to his friend, well, I'll find > someone who hated it as much > as I did. My stars! What was he expecting? The thing that really pisses me off is, how do those kind of jerks get to go to these concerts? Does someone give them free tickets? How come the jerks get the free tickets and the real fans have to pay the big bucks? (and so on...) Even though I would have loved it if you had decked someone, Lindsay, you demonstrated grace, class and good taste by not succumbing to your baser instincts! ;) ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:52:37 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Those Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry/Wilson Howard wrote: You will be glad to know that Brian Wilson has never received any royalties from Surfin USA, everything has gone to Berry.>> Sorry, but I am not glad to know this. Simply because Wilson used the song, he wrote new lyrics. At BEST, Berry should have gotten only half the royalties. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Ju Neitzke e Lea Subject: Can you help me?? :) Anyone... Hello, I love Joni Mitchell and I was out of country when it showed in TNT channel 40 "An all-star tribute to Joni Mitchell". I was so sad when I knew it. Please, I really want to buy the video tape for this event. This is very important to me. Do you know how taped? I look forward to receive a reply. I appreciate so much, Juliana Neitzke. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:06:04 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Joni Greeting Cards are here!!! Debby, What a fantastic find!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These are just too cool. I have alot of emails to send now!! Thanks for sharing these!! Laura :-) I was ordering up some e-mail Mother's Day cards when I fell upon a section of Joni Mitchell e-greeting cards!!! There are a total of three of them. All three have a snippet of music and a moving animation of her paintings. The three song selections are "BSN", "Help Me" and "You Turn Me On, I'm a Radio". They are so cool!!! You can find them at www.egreetings.com Now, go check them out! Tilll later ~ Debby in Mad Beach ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:07:37 -0400 From: "Bob Muller (Perception)" Subject: njc Re: Those Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry/Wilson <> Well, I am EXTREMELY glad to know this! Brian Wilson, brilliant songster that he was, merely "adapted" Berry's lyrical format for his tune, to say that he wrote "new lyrics" is being very generous. Besides, the history of pop music is full of white men ripping off blacks - Nice to know Berry (to whom all rock and rollers, including Joni, owe a huge debt) at least got his due on this one... Joni admits that BYT was her attempt at a Chuck Berry tune - I'd love to hear that classic Berry lick thrown in there sometime! Bob NP: James Brown & the JB's, "Doing it to Death - Part 1 & 2" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:18:29 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Joni at Woodstock/was: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) At 10:40 PM 5/14/00 -0700, Kakki wrote: >>Lindsay wrote: >> New Joni Lore: Overhead a man near me telling someone >>that Joni had gone to Woodstock two days (Phylliss heard >>four days from someone else) before the event to do a sound check. >You too?! He also told Scott and Shawn Price the same story. This is some >new Joni lore. Scott and Shawn both thought he sounded credible. Shawn >later found a Joni colored pen painting in my STARART book entitled "The >Road to Woodstock" and wondered some more about it all. Just before the show started Shawn and I were chatting with another couple right outside the seating area. The guy said it would be his second time seeing Joni perform live, the first time having been at Woodstock. I was going to shrug it off without comment knowing it was bullshit but Shawn gently lobbed: "I thought Joni didn't perform at Woodstock..." He proceded to tell us that he was working at the site helping to set it up in the weeks before the festival and that on the Tuesday prior to Woodstock's opening Joni came up with David Crosby and they each did about four songs for a sound check and played for 20 minutes before a crowd of only a few thousand workers and other early-arrivals. At this point I remained skeptical but the guy was of the proper age and seemed quite together and friendly and easy-going. Just about the time I thought he might claim to have been a sound engineer or V.I.P. he told us that he was up there to dig ditches for latrines and this little break for some great Joni music was a welcome respite. This humble confession added greatly to his credibility, IMO. Later while browsing through Kakki's "Starart" book Shawn came across a painting by Joni, "Road to Woodstock," which was described as being done on the way to the festival, further leading us to speculate that Joni was there at Yasgur's Farm right before the festival began. Anyone know Croz's e-mail addy so we can verify the story? :-) Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:13:57 -0400 From: "Bob Muller (Perception)" Subject: NJC Juliana's Dilemma <> Look out John Low...this girl is going after your record! :~D And fwiw, I did offer her a CD of the event, but have received no reply...makes me wonder how important this gig really is to her! Bob NP: Bloodstone, "Natural High" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:28:37 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Re: NJC Juliana's Dilemma Is there an email service that allows you to just keep sending the same message over and over again? I can't believe it's intentionally being sent each time. :-) "Boston Jim" NP: Joni in Philly, still - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Muller (Perception) To: Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 11:13 AM Subject: NJC Juliana's Dilemma > <> > > Look out John Low...this girl is going after your record! :~D > > And fwiw, I did offer her a CD of the event, but have received no > reply...makes me wonder how important this gig really is to her! > > Bob > > NP: Bloodstone, "Natural High" > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:15:24 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Re: And another voice chimes in....(Long!) Steve Dulson wrote: > I think that she had two video monitors on stage, along with > three sound monitors, so I was suprised when she used the > lyric sheet. The video monitors are usually for the singers to watch the conductor (it's a musical theatre technique) for songs that require a little more than 'doing it by feel'. Was Vince Mendoza standing behind her, out of her eyeline? It helps to see him for timing etc. Usually they put video monitors up if the orchestra/conductor is not in the pit. Judging by the photos, they were all onstage(?). > but some of the violin section were practically looking at > their watches during passages they didn't play on. They're probably wondering how much overtime they've clocked up! ;-) Sounds like a great concert anyhoo.... wish I was there.... Jamie Zoob in London ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:28:19 EDT From: Gellerray@aol.com Subject: Re: Concord Show (NJC now) In a message dated 5/14/00 8:41:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, guitarzan@saber.net writes: << My Joni synchronicity moment: on the way to the concert, stopped by a liquor barn to stock up on a couple bottles of red wine. The guy in line before me was only buying a bag of ice. The cashier looked at him and asked "Just ice?" RR >> Hysterical! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:35:39 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: NJC Juliana's Dilemma "James L. Leonard" wrote: > Is there an email service that allows you to just keep sending the same > message over and over again? I can't believe it's intentionally being sent > each time. :-) And I received the exact message to my own box. A bit annoying and over the top. Jerry np: Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds Live ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:37:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Juliana's Dilemma - --- "Bob Muller (Perception)" wrote: > < much, >> > > Look out John Low...this girl is going after your > record! :~D Blame it on Majordomo's irritable bowel syndrome, or a slight case of the hiccups! (I kept clicking on delete and wondering why the thing wouldn't go away!) ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:20:02 -0600 From: "Alison Einerson" Subject: Re: Concert reviews, etc. Well, thanks so much to everyone for all these terrific posts. Lindsay & Kakki especially, thanks for your detail, depth and vividness! I couldn't possibly be more excited about the MSG shows, and even though I am a little dissapointed that I won't be experiencing Kakki, MG and others' surprise, I am very excited about the set list. I wonder if she'll change it at all? I don't know, but I would be happy either way. This will be my first time seeing Joni live, and I wouldn't care if she stood up on stage and sang commercial jingles all, night! I am a little afraid the inevitable mind-blowing I am in for... I am also so thrilled and encouraged by everyone's posts about meeting fellow listers. Being able to meet everyone makes me even that more excited for the show. I don't know what it is about this group, but we seem to be lucky that there is this intangible quality or qualities that draw us all to Joni's music...it must be a special thing because it allows so many potential strangers to become friends based on one common love. It's a pretty powerful thing, I think, and I am very greatful to be a part of it. I wish I could have been with you all in LA to experience what was no doubt, a fabulous party. Steve Dulson wrote: >I am touched, stunned, amazed, thrilled at the wondrous community >that the jmdl and JoniMitchell.com, Les and Wally, have created. >Where have you people been all my life? :) As I tried, incoherently, >to explain to someone Friday, before '98 I could gush about my Joni >fixation to maybe 1 or 2 people who had any notion (or interest) in >what I was saying. Now there is a whole bunch of you - and everyone >I've met I really, really like. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:27:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: 'Goers' (NJC) - --- Paul Castle wrote: > Catherine catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca sent > websites and articles about Canadian beer > commercials: > > I went to the voting site, Catherine, but I couldn't > find any "Too Old 'Not' To Drink" button so I got > out of there quick. > Hee-hee - very funny! > "Oooh, Suits You Sir" is the catch phrase > sweeping the country started by two male > suit salesmen on TV's 'The Fast Show' - > they're like the 'Gilbert & George' of Saville Row! Who the helllll are Gilbert and George? Is George replacing Sullivan? > PS You think I'm bulling about "sweeping the > country", I was on Oxford Street last week and I > see there is a new tailors called "Suits You"! > It seems the stupider the expression, the more quickly it sweeps the nation. I swear to God, if I hear one more person ask, "Is that your FINAL answer?" or "Talk to the hand", I am going to throw up. (Does anyone know where "Talk to the hand" came from to begin with? All I know is, everyone, including my 9-yr old, seems to be saying it.) ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:30:27 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Cassette Recording of TNT Tribute to Joni- FREE- This is the US TNT TV special that included an all-star group of folks paying tribute to Joni and her songs. It's a 120 minute cassette (or two 60 minute ones) that was recorded from the audience at the Hammerstein Ballroom. In between performances, the audience was silent with no emcee keeping the crowd "up". That may be why Joni said it was "such a surrealistic event". I'm offering this tape free, in the classic tape trading tradition. Write me off-list for details. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:35:44 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Juliana's Dilemma In a message dated 5/15/00 2:39:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca writes: << Blame it on Majordomo's irritable bowel syndrome, or a slight case of the hiccups! (I kept clicking on delete and wondering why the thing wouldn't go away!) >> I knew I saved this Bob M. parody for a reason. For the newbies and those who don't remember, Bob posted this on 8-24-99. I hope you don't mind me posting this again Bob :~) The Bowels of Majordomo (with apologies to Joni & Magdalene Laundries): I was a computer geek, I'd just turned forty-something When I joined up with some listers Where Joni was our home, oh Branded as a parodist With no hope of publication I'd be stuck for good Deep in the bowels of Majordomo Most folks start out lurking; Then join in discussions, Bridget spoke of Belly, Elliot Smith and Judas Priest We're trying to stay on topic here, But we're not overly successful We're a mix you see, Of Joni-only and NJC-ists Humorists and Guitarists and idiots like me All us posters, trapped in jobs of drudgery Maybe in all this discussion there's room for hilarity, Oh, hilarity.... And all the abbreviations, Jesus! If they'd just spell it out, Then we'd know, and no longer would "Siquomb" be such a mystery I want the grass they're puffing on, I want the brilliance of their speech, Guess I'll have to drive on down To Ashara's Jonifest Party! Bob Muller un.subscribed today He was a smart-ass guy A jerk Decided he'd rather talk about Hole Surely to God you'd think the JMDL best, So maybe he'll sub.scribe again and pass the time at work Maybe he's a dim bulb Inspired by almost anything... Yes, anything Yes, anything.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:41:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Juliana's Dilemma - --- FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > I knew I saved this Bob M. parody for a reason. For > the newbies and those who > don't remember, Bob posted this on 8-24-99. > I hope you don't mind me posting this again Bob :~) > > The Bowels of Majordomo (with apologies to Joni & > Magdalene Laundries): > Lovely - I knew someone had written something on this, but couldn't remember who (although I should have been able to figure it out!) ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 12:50:13 -0700 From: Ken Corral Subject: Purple Spinnaker Greetings, This is Ken Corral, part of the L.A. gang back from an over-extended weekend. I have something to pass along. I have no idea what you will make of it but here’s Steve’s Greek Theater fashion post with a small bit of Casa Alegre info thrown in for good measure. I truly wish this had been more timely but better late than never. Think of it as an antidote to the harsh bay area press reviews. (A brief bit of background: Starting with the Stormy Weather benefit concert in 1998 and continuing on through the “Painting With Words and Music” taping sessions, my partner Steve has seen fit to weigh in on what JM was wearing for the evening. Here were his reactions to Friday night’s Greek Theater show.) ________________________ Like a grand schooner she sailed forth into the warm Southern California night. Her crunchy pleated Miyake gown rolled and furled like a great purple spinnaker jib, pulling energy from the balmy air and sending it back out to us, irradiated and transformed. Did she bring us to the harbor? Like little toy boats. Not to say that those of us at the pre-party were not already sailing. Rick and Brad's Casa Alegre was wide open to the Mediterranean afternoon. We lucky few wandered through the cool, dark Spanish colonial rooms, past the famous Joni coat, out onto the patio where we met Rick, all smiles and sizzling kabobs, and Brad, all spiky blond and rapier thin. We wound our way around the pool, greeting old and new friends. Up and up we strolled, into the aerie of a pool house high above the rest, where we chatted with the exotic joniphile bartender, nibbled on taquitos, and went dreaming in a ritual of sound and time in the period tropical elegance. At the Greek, it was after 8:30 and dark when she walked out, after the orchestra's overture. The lights came up and it was just she up there, elegant and getting us to feel. The classic and ingenious gown was, we think, silk. Swirling and swooping in variously constructed areas: a suggestion of a saucy little bolero, big funnel sleeves coming from and going nowhere, cinched waist (a tummy!), and a hem above the ankle. And speaking of ankles, an eye for detail saw the snug little cuffs of pants, turned out from the same fabric but of burnished gold, peeking from under her sails. Okay, the shoes. Those of you who care deeply, and you know who you are and why, will have to content yourself with a replay-like an old erotic fantasy re-imagined for just the right moment: we had seen them before at the taping. Sleek and sexy golden sandals worthy of Helen of Troy. Only the first few rows, I bet, caught a glimpse of her toenails, but you know they were perfect and purple, of some shade. The essential information on accessories and hair? None and none required. Limit it to some simple sparkly earrings and a long, smooth and very blond helmet-more Lombard than Lake. So. We were just getting the first bits of imagery down when she told us we were doing intermission. We had to, she said-as if we both agreed it wasn't a great idea. And did she change? Oh, baby…… Since we only had a couple songs left on the program from the new album, we had a hunch we were in for a treat. And what would it be? To what far off province could she take us with a 70-piece orchestra in tow? One glimpse of the outfit and you knew: it was plain as night in her “particles-of-change” skirt! The vamp had dressed down to rock. Start with the top: more purple with a little scalloped décolletage. Over that was a long, feathery coat---almost a tailcoat---of gunmetal crunchy silk. With tight sleeves that she constantly pushed up with her large, ever-moving but empty hands. More sandals, now low-heeled and black. A hippie as seen by Hurrell. But when you saw the skirt, you knew we were up for some fun. Full-length, white, and form-fitting with a fabric dreamed up by your favorite astrologer in the middle of a major psychotic break. It breathed. On the front, there was a Gibson Girl in a swing. Poking out from under her flounces and ruffles was a sparkling wand which reached out and zapped the rest of the night-sky universe. Those charged-up particles hinted at where we were going. We heard about the moon and stars, went traveling in some vehicle, and pretty soon we were left with an empty spotlight. But we knew she was out there, so we were okay. Steve- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 12:50:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Joni at Woodstock/was: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) Lindsay wrote: > >> New Joni Lore: Overhead a man near me telling someone > >>that Joni had gone to Woodstock two days (Phylliss heard > >>four days from someone else) before the event to do a sound check. Kakki wrote: > >You too?! He also told Scott and Shawn Price the same story. This is some > >new Joni lore. Scott and Shawn both thought he sounded credible. Shawn > >later found a Joni colored pen painting in my STARART book entitled "The > >Road to Woodstock" and wondered some more about it all. Scott wrote: > Just before the show started Shawn and I were chatting with another couple > right outside the seating area. The guy said it would be his second time > seeing Joni perform live, the first time having been at Woodstock. I was > going to shrug it off without comment knowing it was bullshit but Shawn > gently lobbed: "I thought Joni didn't perform at Woodstock..." He proceded > to tell us that he was working at the site helping to set it up in the > weeks before the festival and that on the Tuesday prior to Woodstock's > opening Joni came up with David Crosby and they each did about four songs > for a sound check and played for 20 minutes before a crowd of only a few > thousand workers and other early-arrivals. > > At this point I remained skeptical but the guy was of the proper age and > seemed quite together and friendly and easy-going. Just about the time I > thought he might claim to have been a sound engineer or V.I.P. he told us > that he was up there to dig ditches for latrines and this little break for > some great Joni music was a welcome respite. This humble confession added > greatly to his credibility, IMO. > > Later while browsing through Kakki's "Starart" book Shawn came across a > painting by Joni, "Road to Woodstock," which was described as being done on > the way to the festival, further leading us to speculate that Joni was > there at Yasgur's Farm right before the festival began. Anyone know Croz's > e-mail addy so we can verify the story? :-) Now me: After reading this story, the lyrics popped up and smacked me in the head like a 2 by 4. "I came upon a child of God He was walking along the road And I asked him 'Where are you going?' And this he told me He said 'I'm goin on down to Yasgur's farm Gonna join a rock-n-roll band Gonna camp out on the land And try and get my soul free" The sense of this encounter is that it happened *before* the festival started. The child of God was an early arriver, as there were already thousands of people there on-site by the time Max Yasgur gave the ok for the promoters to erect the fence (haha) around the site, lest he lose a last milking of his cows. Sounds like the $60,000 question to ask Joni on Wednesday night in West Palm, Pearl, or Friday night in Atlanta, Bob. Right?? I'm anxiously awaiting my own chance to see the show in Camden on June 2nd. And maybe I'll do a 'Kakki' and get to see her at MSG next week, too ;-) Thanks for all the great reviews and stories everyone. And for the pictures too, Leslie. And a thanks in advance to our sneakier jmdlers. I can hardly wait to hear it in all its glory. Take care everyone, Brian np: NPR - Terry Gross (no relation :-( ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:45:34 -0400 From: "Bob Muller (Perception)" Subject: Cassette Recording of TNT Tribute to Joni- FREE- <> And if you prefer your tunes in CD form, lemme know if you want the TNT tribute on a CD - this is basically just the songs, not the speeches, and it sounds great! Sorry, I cannot make copies on 8-track or Edison cylinder! :~) Bob NP: B.T. Express, "Do it 'til You're Satisfied" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:32:25 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: 60's icon my butt God. Anyone who thinks Joni Mitchell is merely a 60's icon is gravely uninformed and I'm so glad you DID set them straight. Thank YOU. Isn't she a blessed genius??Communicating with people who SEE the enormity of her art and relate to it like I do - is a dream come true. I have often felt isolated in my reverence for her work. For 30 years - and now - I DON'T. Way cool people!! Thank you for your impeccable taste! Peg from Vermont New lister > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Lori > R. Fye > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 1:12 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Time Out.com replies ... > > > Last week, in the midst of my annoyance over Time > Out.com's reference to Joni as a "sixties icon," I > wrote to them, repeating much of my recent letter to > the JMDL (regarding Joni's release of only two albums > in the 60s versus nine albums in the 70s, no > appearance at 1969's Woodstock, et cetera). I just > received this reply: > > --- Dean Irvine wrote: > > > Wow, thanks for all the info on Joni. Never will she > > be referred to as a '60's icon on TO's pages. > > Glad to know that! > > Lori, slowly trying to set the record straight, > in DC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:52:07 -0400 From: "Bob Muller (Perception)" Subject: RE: NJC Juliana's Dilemma <> Heaven's no, Jimmy, I'm glad you did - I didn't save it and enjoyed reading it again! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:28:04 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: More thoughts... More thoughts as the brain cells regenerate: The sound at the Greek was awesome. The orchestra did not sound electric/amplified at all. Joni's voice could have been a touch higher in the mix on a few songs, but overall, great sound. Her first outfit was not, as someone has mentioned, very flattering. It emphasized her tummy! How long has it been since I listened to WTRF? I had to ask Ken Corral if he was familiar with the song "fifty-fifty fire and ice" that she did. :) Those reviewers in SF seem to be carrying way too much baggage.... at least Hilburn in the Times came through with a decent review. ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:28:43 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Thru the Eyes of a 9 year old In a message dated 5/15/00 2:45:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, p.a.oconnor@worldnet.att.net writes: << My nine year old niece Julia was visiting me today. I walked into the living room and she had a pile of CDs on the floor. She said"You have 18 Joni Mitchell CDs!" I acknowledged that was true. >> So which two are you missing? Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:41:22 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: San Francisco Examiner review of Saturday's concert > Uneven evening with Joni Mitchell > > By Philip Elwood > EXAMINER MUSIC CRITIC thus spoke: >The hundreds of Joni cultists in the crowd went berserk during "A Case of You," cooled off >considerably until "Both Sides Now" and had a field-day of enthusiasm for the rest of the evening as >she sang, or narrated through quite a few oldies in the "Case of You," "Urge For Going" "Crazy Ride >Home" style; missing, sadly, was "The Circle Game." LOL! Is this for real??! And can someone please translate it for me? At least us cultists know her music. Geez. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:59:17 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: NJC Juliana's Dilemma > And I received the exact message to my own box. A bit annoying and over the top. > > Jerry I've received it as a copyee with others and also to me personally. Lost count in the many deletions Twilight Zone stuff. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:01:16 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Purple Spinnaker Thanks Steve! (and Ken) I think this is your best yet!! ;-D Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:12:20 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: LA Times article re: Friday concert Les and all, I hope you'll consider adding this review to your ever expanding collection on jmdl.com. This reviewer, Rober Hilburn, obviously "GETS IT". Especially when he says, "For more than a quarter century, Mitchell has not been seen by music observers as just a singer-songwriter, but perhaps THE singer-songwriter." His words, my emphasis. Off to COBOL class, Lamadoo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:19:48 -0700 (PDT) From: leslie@torchsongs.com Subject: Juliana's Dilemma Help Me I need to see Joni On TNT I heard there was a tribute But I was out of the country Now I’m asking Over and over If you can Dub it for me I know you Joni people Will do it for me for free Help Me I don’t know what else I can say I need to see this concert I’m getting more desperate Every day I want to hear Elton Singing “Free Man In Paris” And Sweet Honey’s “Circle Game” And I know you Joni people Will do it for me free Oh, didn’t it feel good To hear James playing “River” And Diana sing, “A Case of You” Didn’t it feel good To hear the First Lady give praise to our Joni Although some of you called Hillary a phony Help Me I need to see Joni On TNT I heard there was a tribute But I was out of the country I heard about Cyndi’s sexy dance And k.d. lang’s awful pants And I know you Joni people Will do it for me free Leslie Mixon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:22:52 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: NJC Juliana's Dilemma I'm going to break etiquette just once, right now. I offered to make a VHS copy of the Tribute for our most persistent new JMDLer, Juliana, even though the Video Tree isn't open yet. She just sent me this message, which I can't resist posting: > Is this true? > I mean, I so happy... > Tomorrow I'm going to post office. > I live in Houston, Texas... > Sure I'll send for you cassette and VHS. > Thank VERY MUCH. > I realy appreciate, > Juliana Neitzke. She's really quite sweet ..... when she's not leaning on the "Send" key. :) Smiling, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:27:56 -0400 From: peves@marlboro.edu Subject: RE: TRADE: TNT for JONI BOOTLEG Bob, It's called Joni Mitchell BBC Concert 1972 My address is 142 Whitney Hill Brookline, VY 05345 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:46:34 -0600 From: "Alison Einerson" Subject: pre-concert meeting plans 5/22 Hi Paul! and all others attending the MSG show on the 22nd, we are (as far as I know!) meeting at Judy's Chelsea which is located on 169 8th Avenue between 18th and 19th streets. David Lahm will be playing piano beginning at 6:00 p.m. According to David, the food is really good, it is a fifteen minute walk to the garden, and is "clean and attractive." I plan to be there around 5:00 (or possibly earlier). So far those who have expressed interest include Rose, Patrick, Tanya, Harper Lou, Lori, Sherelle (and probably others I have forgotten) I haven't heard from Emily. If you're out there, Emily, I hope you can come. I am very excited to meet everyone. Please email me if you are going and add your name to the list! best to all, alison e. > >How are things going with the Joni get together in New York. It is getting >close to the concert time now ( I am leaving this Thursday) and I am getting >a little anxious that I haven't any firm arrangements as yet. > >Cheers ! > >Paul Headon > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:00:30 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Re: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) At 09:29 PM 5/14/00 -0700, Lindsay Moon wrote: >Kakki remarked that we should have seen "Ludwig's Tune" coming >I was stunned, absolutely stunned, when she introduced the song. As >the orchestra went into the musical segment of it and she stood listening, >I thought I hope she is appreciating what an amazing piece of music this >is, to have been written at such an early point in her musical development >or career, and how it is so musically complex and advanced that it just >translates into an orchestral piece. I can't quite get my thought clear on >that, but maybe you understand what I'm saying. Hi Lindsay, Count me in with those who had no clue that "Ludwig" was part of the setlist, even while Joni told that story about Beethoven. It is an amazing composition and as stated earlier I'm so glad Joni is revisiting some of these older songs. Vince Mendoza deserves special kudos for arranging all these classic Joni numbers. I'm now curious about how much input Joni and perhaps Larry are giving Mr. Mendoza as he transcribes. He is capturing the "musically complex and advanced" qualities you write of very well. When it was first announced that Joni would be performing some of her older songs with the full orchestra the two pieces that immediately came to mind were "Ludwig" and "Paprika Plains" because they were originally recorded with orchestras making them obvious choices. But I never dreamed that Joni would include either of them. What a pleasant surprise! "Moon and Stars" was enormous and had she done only this one song I would have gone home in amazement. (taking a page from Rick and writing note to self: don't be afraid to dream more often!) Some have commented on the dissonance and slightly-chaotic version of "For The Roses" that was performed. I have been thinking about this and concluded that like so many of Joni's songs, they often require many listening sessions to sink in. This arrangement is definitely complex and not exactly what you'd call "accessible." It's a daring choice and I only wish I could be present at more of the concerts in order to get a few more "takes" on this one and then be able to more fully appreciate it. Still in a daze, Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:13:50 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Those Swinging Rock 60s (md-3) Berry/Wilson (NJC) I have watched this debate so by with amazed wonder. Maybe I can summarise: Brian Wilson was a musical genius. Brian Wilson was not a part of the political/musical scene of the late 60s. Somewhere in 1968 the Beach Boys ceased to be relevant to much of anything. No one sang Fun Fun Fun after Martin Luther Kinbg Jr and RFK were killed. No one sang Little Deuce Coupe at Chicago 68. Help Me Rhonda was not being saung at Kent State. They had a big comeback in around 1975 as the fun and worth of the Beach Boys was rediscovered. Politically relevant musicians would include the Beatles, Jefferson Airplace, CSN&Y, Gil Scott Heron, Bob Dylan. The Beach Boys foray such as Student Demonstration Time is a major embarrassment to the Beach Boys. I was one of the few who bought Surf's Up when it was new, and in fact is the only Beach Boy album that I bought until I got a hits compliation many years later. Surf's Up is brilliant. Perhaps one of the best works of any group ever... in parts. Take Good Care of Your Feet makes Paul McCartney's Silly Love Songs seem profound. However, Surf's Up, Disney Girls, Long Promised Road, 'Till I Die are brilliance and make up for the schlock on that album many time over. To say that the Beach Boys were not politically relevant in the late 60s and early 70s is not to say that he was not a musical genius. Because Marcel has said the first part of that sentence does not mean that he said the second part. Brian Wilson was a musical genius. He was politically irrelevant. IMHO. (the Rev) Vince "James L. Leonard" wrote: > Hey, Howard. We'll make a Brian Wilson fan out of Marcel yet! :-) > > The album Surf's Up, btw, including the phenomenal title track, was > partially constructed from the Smile sessions. > > "Boston Jim" > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:19:05 -0700 (PDT) From: leslie@torchsongs.com Subject: Breaking Etiquette Since Jim did it, I'll do it too - after reading my parody, I received this from Juliana: I loved that!!! :) Regards, Juliana :) The lady has a sense of humor! Welcome into the fold Juliana... Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:49:33 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: Concert reviews, etc. In a message dated 5/15/00 12:11:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, alisone@kirkhams.com writes: << I couldn't possibly be more excited about the MSG shows, and even though I am a little disappointed that I won't be experiencing Kakki, MG and others' surprise, I am very excited about the set list. >> I will say this: I knew the set lists beforehand but it was in the area of "it's all a dream, she has awaked...." Beforehand knowledge did little to dilute the delight and surprise. MG - ready to take a nap and catch up on lost weekend sleep.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:04:41 -0700 From: "Rob and Stef Librizzi" Subject: Joni tickets MSG NYC 5/23 Hi List, I have Two tickets for MSG on 5/23 in Sec 201 Row M Seat 16/17 for sale at face value 175.00. Please email rslibrizzi@tcsn.net if you want them or know anyone that could use them. Thanks Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:07:44 -0400 From: peves@marlboro.edu Subject: Re: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) God!! She's doing some early stuff with the orchestra too?? Is there an acoustic keyboard, by the way, in the show? I revel in and rejoyce in Joni's recent stuff. It is inspired. But I miss the "wires & hammers" . Like on "Moon & Stars", like on "River', like on "Rainy Night'!!!!! Long live the queen!! Peg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:14:59 -0500 From: Hyatt McClennen Subject: Detroit Concert - May 31 I'll be going to Detroit for the May 31st concert at Pine Knob and was just wondering if there's any plans for a JMDLer connection for that evening?. Please excuse me if this has already been mentioned and I failed to notice it. Debbe in Alabama ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:29:31 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: City of Angels NJC Am feeling a little more refreshed today after collapsing early last night and finally getting more than three or four hours' sleep a night. After spending six days in Los Angeles it was good to be home but already I'm missing all my new (and old) friends. The pre-concert party at "Coyote" Rick's and Brad's "Casa Alegre" (Happy House) was way beyond anything I could have imagined. After passing through the gate to this Hollywood Hills home where Joni's "Painting With Words and Music" was playing on the video monitor, we gained the upper level of the property where the pool is located in the center of a large multi-leveled patio that is ringed with many tables and chairs. Rick introduced us to Brad and quickly escorted us over to the open poolhouse where the hired bartender stood ready, willing, and able to serve any type of libation we cared for. While munching on the fine appetizers including an awesome freshly-prepared guacomole, gazing out at the lovely view, and listening to Joni's music that was piped throughout the house and the outdoor speakers I got to know serveral JMDLers including Phyliss Ward, Michael and Freda Paz, Ken Corral, Steve Jonnum, Mariana, John Lasater, Clark Carlton, Steve and lovely Michelle Dulson, Julius Mills, Don Sloan, and Phil Gibbs & friends. Following a scrumptious dinner expertly prepared in the outdoor kitchen by Brad my wife Shawn and I strolled through the "casa" proper and stood with mouths agape over many of the rooms and their accoutrements. "Dramatic" is perhaps the best word I can come up with to describe many of the rooms. The master bedroom was truly exotic with its woven (palm-frond?) ceiling and jungle theme. One bathroom featured black and gold tiles that shone in the mirrors which entirely covered the walls and ceiling...the effect nearly left us breathless. We found a stainless steel countertop (the ONLY thing our old house has in common with theirs!) in the indoor kitchen and through the pantry and off to the side was a door leading out to a very private little outdoor nook. Coming back through the dining room we found a large hand-carved antique sideboard that was just gorgeous. Brad related that when he found this piece there was another matching unit that went with it but he didn't know where on earth he could put it...I wonder where that beautiful identical twin ended up... The hallways and various other little nooks were tastefully filled with autographed photos and other pieces of art and collectibles and the living room was host to a Steinway baby grand piano. But being a beautiful warm Southern California day most of the partiers were gathered at various stations around the pool, where Brad had whisked away all the wonderful dinner selections and replaced them with dessert trays and full freshly-brewed coffee pots. Just as an example of the attention to detail in evidence at Casa Alegre, an open box about eight inches square was lined with linen napkins and decorated with Joni Mitchell "Both Sides Now" promotional artwork and then filled with Altoids mints. Does anyone know if these "go with" Ricola cough lozenges? :-) Way too soon it was time to depart for the Greek Theatre. My first-ever Hollywood party was something I'll never forget. As all the guests were leaving Rick handed out detailed driving instructions for us to reach the venue with the least amount of fuss...what an amazing and generous and thoughtful couple of hosts...the whole time I never saw anything but huge smiles on both their faces... Previously I had literally begged Rick a couple of times to see if there was *anything* we could bring to the party and he always said, emphatically, "Just yourselves." I *really* do not know how to thank them for this experience, except, perhaps to just say it: "Thank you." I still think it's a minor miracle that anyone from out of town would be able to *find* the Bel Air Hotel because you have to go miles and miles and then make several twists and turns that are not well indicated before ending up in the driveway. This stately establishment deserves every bit of its world-class reputation as the grounds and buildings are perfectly immaculate, elegant, and eclectic. I thoroughly enjoyed getting together there after the concert with all the JMDLers and was sad when we left, even though it was around 2:30 a.m. But if I thought the Bel Air was hard to find, the next night Les Deux Cafe, a known Joni hangout when she's "in town," was even tougher to spot. Most restaurants have a sign out front but in the case of Les Deux you have to go through a parking lot to find a little sign about the size of a paper plate that announces you've found the right cubbyhole in the tall hedge to slip through to get to the place. Truly amazing that something this well hidden would be so packed with folks wanting to dine out, but Kakki had previously arranged with restauranteur and owner Michele Lamy to have a table set aside and we were immediately seated. The oft-esoteric menu offered many intriguing selections and I think all in our party were having as much difficulty as I was in trying to decide what to order. Following a leisurely hours-long dining experience it was off to Kakki's place for yet another party. With the backdrop of huge downtown L.A. skyscrapers just outside the windows of the "Kakkishack" we were regaled with the performances of Michael Paz, Clark Carlton, and Julius Mills. Paz quickly set up his VG-8 and was running through one Joni song after another. A special moment was when Clark and Kakki gave an impromptu acoustic duet of "Marcie." With Clark strumming his Martin and blending his sharp masculine voice with Kakki's alto harmonies I was every bit as moved as I had been approximately 24 hours previously by the Joni concert. Soon everyone in the room was singing at the top of their lungs on each song Michael would perform. It was really cool to be there among the "faithful" who knew every word to every song and whose love of Joni was most apparent. When we finally gave up sometime after 5 a.m. I don't think I've ever fallen asleep "as soon as my head hit the pillow" but this time was probably asleep *before* getting completely into bed! Living as we do in an old house in a small town, it was quite a culture shock for Shawn and I to spend so much time in this vast metropolis, but it's easy to see what the attraction is. Kakki's high-rise, high-security building is full of amenities and her neighbors didn't even complain when the loud music drifted on until the wee hours. Downtown Los Angeles is spotlessly clean and in its own way, a work of art. We met many kind and wonderful children from this city of angels and none could be more accommodating than Kakki. She organized all the gatherings and kept everything on track, ensuring that everyone had a great time at each stop. This is not an easy feat to pull off AND still find time to enjoy yourself, which I think she did. Always non-obtrusive and considerate, she's a great representative of the JMDL. Once again I don't quite know how to thank her...another angel. Scott ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #257 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?