From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #250 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe JMDL Digest Saturday, May 13 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 250 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Goers (was May 12th : At Last!NJC) [Catherine McKay ] OOPS (NJC) [Janene Otten ] Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #245 ["Alison Einerson" ] Re: Time Out. com ["Reuben Bell" ] Re: How Do You Stop (NJC) [Howard Motyl ] Old bands - careers ["David P. Swanson" ] Readying to Go To Joni! VLJC [Lindsay Moon ] RE:tori amos (NJC) ["Garret" ] Location & date? [Bounced Message ] NJC- Happy Joni day [Linda Worster ] RE:tori amos and a joni mondegreen (VLJC) [Bounced Message ] re: Joni's May 12 concert [Bounced Message ] Re: Goers (was May 12th : At Last!NJC) [catman ] BSN tour ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Changing sub*scriptions, NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] RE: Time Out. Com ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: Goers (was May 12th : At Last!NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Favorite Careers (SJC) ["kerry" ] Re: Time Out. com ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: "Sixties Icon"? NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: NJC- Happy Joni day [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Dave Matthews - Stones NJC [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Urge for controversy ["P. Henry" ] 'Goers' (NJC) ["Paul Castle" ] C'mon already! I'm *BEGGING*! [Janet Hess ] Re: C'mon already! I'm *BEGGING*! ["gene mock" ] Re: Goers (was May 12th : At Last!NJC) ["Paul Castle" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:11:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Goers (was May 12th : At Last!NJC) List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- Paul and Colin are trying to stir up the Yanks again, eh? Well, as a Canadian who doesn't have a clue what either of you is talking about, I'll just pretend i didn't hear that! (Desperately trying to think of a phrase only Canadians would understand. Oh yeah. I am.) - --- Paul Castle wrote: > List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni > -------------------------------- > > I wrote: > > >> True! > > Colin wrote: > > > I was wondering if the non UK people even know > what we mean! > > I'm sure they don't. I've noticed innuendo is not > their strong point! > Although they are getting better. Mind you, Monty > Python probably > helped with that particular word recognition. I > wonder how they'll > react to "OOOH, Suits you, Sir!". > > PaulC > > ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:23:03 -0400 From: Janene Otten Subject: Forgotten heroes List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- Oh!!!! John's post reminded me of music that I discovered very recently and I was blown away by these recordings. She is Ellen McIlwaine and while I'm sure many of you will thump your palm on your forehead while muttering, "Oh, yeah", I could not believe that I had never even heard of her until last year. She was a masterful slide guitar player and her voice is sublime. I read that she had played with Hendrix and many others. I believe that she now resides in Canada but has lived in the Japan, New Orleans, New York...That was probably the most surprising musical discovery of my life and it was so sudden. I don't claim to know of every musician that ever lived but the fact that this one got past me for all those years still boggles my mind! Janene np: Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds - Live at Luther College > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:24:22 -0400 From: Janene Otten Subject: OOPS (NJC) List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- forgot to write NJC - now put down those daggers! =) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:35:44 -0600 From: "Alison Einerson" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #245 List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- Hi Bernie, just wanted to let you know that if you plan to attend the MSG theatre concert on May 22 (or even if you aren't!), several jmdl people are planning on getting together before the show at Judy's Chelsea for drinks and random chatter. David Lahm will be playing piano, so that's an extra treat. Please email me if you are interested or want more info. alison e. - ---------- >From: BMBSPIRIT@cs.com >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #245 >Date: Wed, May 10, 2000, 10:20 PM > >It's midnight, Wednesday in NYC and I just got home. I enjoy reading the web >page and checking my e-mail. There are interesting people and opinions as >well as a wide degree of musical taste. I would like to hear from this >eclectic group their opinion of Dave Matthews , either with band or >acoustically with Tim Reynolds. I am a huge fan and would like to find out >why he is not given the praise I think he deserves. If you don't like him >please don't say it's because 90% of his fans are 16 year olds that have no >idea what good music is. I wait to defend. > Bernie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 11:34:43 PDT From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Re: Time Out. com List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- Even Joni herself is guilty of this...In an interview (I don't know where, but I have it on tape) ca. Night Ride Home, she is musing over the fact that people still refer to her a sixties folkie, and goes on to say that only one of her albums was even released in the 60's. Unless I'm wrong...Song To A Seagull and Clouds were both released in the 60's. Picky on my part? Probably. I can't help it, I guess. Reuben >From: Catherine McKay >A *lot* of "60s" stuff actually happened in the 70s. >And yet, people insist on remembering it as the 60s. >A lot of it started in the 60s, but it was the *late* >60s really, so it carried forward>Catherine (in Toronto) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:50:39 -0500 From: Howard Motyl Subject: Re: How Do You Stop (NJC) List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------779443045E8FCD5CE163CD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/12/00 10:54:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > AngelinoCoyote@aol.com writes: > > << Coyote Responds: > > Howard, I seem to recall Dan Hartman died of AIDS. He made some very fun > and > beautiful music. >> > > Dan Hartman did pass away in 1994 with complications from AIDS. Most people > associate him with his big disco hits "Instant Replay," "Relight My Fire" and > "This is It" (which are favorites of mine). Dan was also with The Edgar > Winter Group, and wrote many of their songs such as "Free Ride." He wrote > "Keep The Fire Burning" and co-wrote "Living in America." I know he worked > with Tina Turner on some of her albums too. I can't remember what else he > did, but he sure made his mark in the music industry IMO. > > Jimmy > NPIMH: 10,9,8,7............Instant Replay Font of knowledge, you. 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Swanson" Subject: Old bands - careers List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- Has anyone every heard of The Mendalbaums? The group had a cult following - and they deserved it. It was a group in the Madison, Wisconsin area in the 60's. They never recorded anything that I am aware of - I saw them at "DJ's" night spot with an old girl friend - Cynthia W. Ah, I wonder what ever happened to her. She moved to Black Earth, Wis. and I moved away. David Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:43:09 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Readying to Go To Joni! VLJC List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- Well, here I sit at 12:30 p.m. trying to think of how to spend my nervous energy (partly from excitement about tonight and partly from a cup of caffeinated coffee I don't usually drink). Gathering the 47 things I'm trying to remember to take to L.A. this afternoon: ticket, map(s), several packs of Kleenex as I'm anticipating Joni's performance will knock me for an emotional loop since I can't get through BSN without crying at least once), video of Joni performing "Goodbye Blue Skies" for viewing at perhaps the Kakki Shack at some early hour of tomorrow morning, etc., etc. I am so excited to see this show tonight, and it means even more to me in light of my involvement with this group all of whom are similarly enamored of her work, who "understand." I'm looking forward to seeing those I've met and some whom I haven't yet. Am not excited about anticipated hellish drive to L.A. (I can't leave San Diego until 3:30 because my 6-year-old daughter is having a Mother's Day tea at her school this afternoon.) I guess all I can do is load up the CD changer with Joni and blast on through. Concert and party details to follow ... : ) Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:26:25 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: RE:tori amos (NJC) List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- angela wrote: i never really cared much for tori amos. She is talented, i think, but for some reason i just never liked her music enough to buy it, or leave it on the radio. BUT.... there is one tori song that i liked, and i think it was off a newer cd that my old roommate had. i used to get into arguements with her and she'd get really offended and angry ...saying "WHY DON'T YOU LIKE HER?" she'd say i haven't REALLY listened to her enough. well,to that, i have, b/c she was always playing all of her tori cd's. ======== it's true. Tori fans are perhaps the most obsessive around. but hey, i'm a Tori fan. i didn't consider the latest album to be up to much though. it almost makes you think that she has passed her creative peak. Choirgirl Hotel, Boys for Pele, Under the Pink are all superb and leave one in no doubt that a truly major creative force is at work. she is truly original. have u heard her cover Stevie Nicks' Landslide?? that is really good. though she adds the Tori fingerprint "and if you see my erection in the ...". well i may be hearing it wrong. hope not after sayign that! well, more power to Tori! GARRET NP- Tori Amos- Father Lucifer (live) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:31:25 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Location & date? List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:11:06 -0400 From: Jean-Pierre Pellerin Hi, I need the location and the date of this show with Joni Mitchell. She is with Jackie Brecker,Jaco Pastorius,Don Olyus,Pat Metheny and Lyle Mays.The setlist is as follow: Introduction In France They Kiss On Main Street Edith And The Kingpin Coyote Goodbye Pork Pie Hat The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines Amelia Pat's Solo Hejira Dreamland Band Introduction Furry Sings The Blues Why Do Fools Fall In Love Shadows And Light God Must Be A Boogie Man Woodstock Thanks, Jean-Pierre Pellerin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 17:47:25 -0400 From: Linda Worster Subject: NJC- Happy Joni day List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- Greetings to all in LA who are attending Joni's concert tonight! And greetings to all JMDLers old and new. I've been away from my computer for 6 weeks, but I'm back now. Looking forward to talking with all my friends here again. Y'all didn't talk about anything important whilst I was gone, did ya? :~) Linda ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:53:16 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: RE:tori amos and a joni mondegreen (VLJC) List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- From: "Yael Harlap" Subject: RE:tori amos and a joni mondegreen (VLJC) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:37:00 GMT Garret said, regarding Tori Amos: >i didn't consider the latest album to be up to much though. it almost > >makes you think that she has passed her creative peak. Choirgirl >Hotel, >Boys for Pele, Under the Pink are all superb and leave one in >no doubt >that a truly major creative force is at work. I like To Venus and Back better than Choirgirl, I think! So to each their own, I guess :) I *was* a little disappointed with the live album part of it but that is just because I have been to so many amazing concerts that a produced version can't hold up. And all the songs I was hoping would be on it aren't. (Except Cooling). >she is truly original. have u heard her cover Stevie Nicks' >Landslide?? >that is really good. though she adds the Tori >fingerprint "and if you >see my erection in the ...". well i may be >hearing it wrong. hope not >after sayign that! I do love her version of Landslide, but I never heard "erection"! I always thought she said "reflection" (which of course is what Stevie says.) Speaking of mondegreens, I was very amused with myself... thinking that Joni said "I was running like a wide-assed deer." I found myself trying to visualize how a wide-assed deer would run. Somehow the image doesn't map onto Joni very well! - -Yael np (in my head) "I was running like a wide-assed deer" on repeat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:49:59 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: re: Joni's May 12 concert List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- From: "Joe Farrell" Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:23:52 +0100 Just want to wish everybody all the best for tonight. Wish i could be there. Please do post your reviews etc as i will be longing to read about the show. Was at Joni's show at the new victoria...went to two nights...and saw Rod Stewart in the bar downstairs. I'm really excited and i'm not even going..Ah well enjoy i'll be thinking of you all ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:23:38 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Goers (was May 12th : At Last!NJC) List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- Okay, Catherine-a goer is a person who enjoys a 'good time' any time. Catherine McKay wrote: > > Paul and Colin are trying to stir up the Yanks again, > eh? Well, as a Canadian who doesn't have a clue what > either of you is talking about, I'll just pretend i > didn't hear that! (Desperately trying to think of a > phrase only Canadians would understand. Oh yeah. I > am.) > > --- Paul Castle wrote: > > List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni > > -------------------------------- > > > > I wrote: > > > > >> True! > > > > Colin wrote: > > > > > I was wondering if the non UK people even know > > what we mean! > > > > I'm sure they don't. I've noticed innuendo is not > > their strong point! > > Although they are getting better. Mind you, Monty > > Python probably > > helped with that particular word recognition. I > > wonder how they'll > > react to "OOOH, Suits you, Sir!". > > > > PaulC > > > > > > > ===== > Catherine (in Toronto) > catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca > > _______________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:37:17 +0100 From: catman Subject: Carly says... List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- in an interview that Joni was one of the artists that made a deep impression upon her and formed her tastes and that she is one of the artists she always listens to. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:44:58 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: BSN tour List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- Can anyone of you who are lucky enough to see Joni, ask her about the biography. Also can you let me know whether there was an encore? If the orchestra are MU then it's highly unlikely. You're seeing Joni and that's all that matters! Bastards! :-b Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 20:55:32 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Changing sub*scriptions, NJC List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- As we approach the hour of the kickoff of Joni's Both Sides Now Tour of 2000, I want to remind everyone that you can sub*scribe to the un-digested Joni List at anytime, even if you are already sub*scribed to a Digest List. Why would you want to do that? I'm on the Digest but I want to get the blow-by-blow accounts from the tour, as they happen too. I can sub to both lists until the Tour ends, then un*sub from the big, unDigested List. One more reminder- if you video taped the Tribute the other night, I hope you broke out the tab so noone can accidently tape, oh, say, cartoons over the top of it! All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:56:42 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Time Out. Com List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- well, well, well, colin was right! richard, where do you keep dorian's portrait? great looks ... and attitude! wallyK >You have lots of money (and little sense) and could afford loads of > >plastic surgery > >or you have a picture on you web page that was taken 20 years ago! > >Or you are just lucky and have good genes. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:04:23 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Goers (was May 12th : At Last!NJC) List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- mes petits, what on earth are you two talking about? greek goers? suits? sir? are you two into s&m or something? talk to me, boy. wallyk > List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni > -------------------------------- > > I wonder how they'll > > react to "OOOH, Suits you, Sir!". > > I have to confess that I have no idea what this means. > > > > PaulC > > > > NP 'Circle Dance' by Bonnie Raitt > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:31:50 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Those Swinging Rock 60s List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- Rock on Lori! Deja vu and Dark Side of the Moon were not 60 albums for example. In my opinion, the 60s didn't start musically in America until 1964 when those lovable moptops from Liverpool, Gerry and the Pacemakers showed up. :) This is a joke; the lovable moptops were, of course, Herman's Hermits. Oh my, I've done it again. I can understand those who contend that the Beach Boys started those swinging 60s though. But I would counter that Chuck Berry was the one. I should define my terms I suppose. I'm thinking of the 60s as the era of Rock music, not the Rock n' Roll era. In that context then the wonderkinds from Sun Records, Elvis, Johnny Cash, and Roy Orbison yielded almost no influence at all upon those who followed. When I think of the 60s, I think of "Crosstown Traffic" by Jimi Hendrix and not "I Walk The Line". Historically, I contend that the 60s ended when the Hell's Angels knifed a Stones fan to death at Altamont. It certainly burst the metaphorical bubble of idealism that surrounded the new "Rock" music. Other opinions? Lori in DC said, To digress a bit ... while the 60s was certainly a turbulent and transforming decade, it was comprised of only ten years just like every other decade. Yet many people try to cram half of the events of the 70s into their "fond" memories of the 60s. WHY? All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 20:59:45 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: Favorite Careers (SJC) List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- I am enjoying the favorite careers thread and it's amazing how varied everyone's lists are. I had to throw mine in after contemplating it through several rush hour traffic jams. I agree that artists change from year to year, but there are certain musicians who are always there. Joni has been the only constant since I was 14 years old. (More than a few years ago!) I find myself looking "backward" (as someone else spoke of recently). I started out in high school loving John Denver (hey, I couldn't have learned to play guitar without him!) and now find myself liking music that I should have been into back then. Does that make sense? It goes without saying that Joni is #1. (Then why did I say it?) Anyway........... 1. Joan Armatrading - Unique voice and songwriting style. 2. James Taylor - Love the laid back feeling of his music. 3. CSNY (especially Y) - Classic, great music! 4. Fleetwood Mac & solo Stevie - (pre-Betty Ford) ;>) 5. Heart - Even though some of their music is formula radio stuff, it's damn fun! And Ann Wilson has one of the best rock and roll voices around!!! I heard her do a Led Zepplin song live a couple years ago and she blew him out of the water! 6. Ella Fitzgerald - What can I say? 7. Tom Petty - I like him 10x more after seeing him in concert! 8. Indigo Girls - They just keep getting better and better. 9. Bob Marley - Another classic! 10. Annie Lennox - Especially love her solo work. Another great voice. Honorable mention (another way to fit more in.....) : Led Zeppelin, Cat Stevens (Harold and Maude : best soundtrack to a movie ever!!!!!), Ani Difranco, DORIS DAY...... Okay, I have to stop now!!! Since everyone has a cool Joni name, I'm changing mine to: Carey (it's so close - it had to be done!) Let's now talk about fare-thee-wells now The night is a starry dome ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 14:11:34 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Time Out. com List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni - -------------------------------- Lori wrote: >To digress a bit ... while the 60s was certainly a >turbulent and transforming decade, it was comprised of >only ten years just like every other decade. Yet many >people try to cram half of the events of the 70s into >their "fond" memories of the 60s. WHY? Personally, when someone talks about the "sixties" in a musical context, I always think of it as 1965 - 1975. Not sure why, but I think that "decade" was fairly spectacular in terms of the new music that evolved in that era. David Crosby describes it really well on a CSN video I have - I'll try and find his quote, and post it. Hell _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:40:52 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: "Sixties Icon"? NJC List Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Rock on Lori! She pointed out: > Joni released two albums during the 60s and > NINE albums -- more than she released in > any other decade - -- during the 70s. I can help make this point. In the 70s, not only did she release NINE titles, but 11 LPs! Two of the 70s titles were 2 LP sets and neither of the 60s titles were multidisc sets. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:34:51 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC- Happy Joni day In a message dated 5/12/00 3:52:36 PM US Central Standard Time, lworster@taconic.net writes: << I've been away from my computer for 6 weeks, but I'm back now. Looking forward to talking with all my friends here again. >> Well, hey there Linda! Been missing you! I figured you've been doing the final mixes for your new record - glad to hear from ya'! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:38:34 EDT From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Dave Matthews - Stones NJC i know don started this thread. and don, i love you and won't flame you. but i don't at all see anything common between the stones and dmb. the stones are big stage, big sound, big time, big everything. guitar based, three chords, swinging mic. and i love the stones. but dmb is way different. dmb is jazz, rock, singer songwriter, sex, intimacy, whisper, gutteral, scream, and not big about anything at all. now last night, my 10 year old is with me in the car and i'm playing crush. and he says, dad, can you start that again. so i do. and i said, what do you hear. he said, i hear some jazzy thing. and i said, yea. listen. that bass comes in from the left there, and then that little guitar comes straight at us, and then that sax cuts right across it all and creates all this tension. and then those strings are coming up and they bring in some breath and relieve the tension some, and then that sustain comes. and my 10 year old says, and i quote, you mean like when the wind comes in with the tide and the marsh mud gets coverd up? and i said, yea..that's it exactly. and he said, you're right,,,it seems kind of hard to go back to smash mouth now. np. crash into me - hike up your skirt a little more, and show the world to me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:03:42 -0700 From: "P. Henry" Subject: Re: Urge for controversy philip wrote: >I'm sure it is a Joni song but there is something manly about that song.> as many are probably tired of my bragging about, (which, of course, won't slow me down even a little... LoL!) Urge was one of the songs Joni taught me herself and one which I played for years as part of my own sets. although I've never really thought about it before in this sense, you have a point. beside the fact that this song was particularly well suited to my voice, a kind of showtunish ('Mariah') alto-lead, *wondering if there is such a thing* of the material I performed, not a lot of the popular folk stuff of the time contained any particularly 'manly' moments (ie: the kind that made the ladies go hmmm) and, thinking of it now, Urge, as performed by a guy, did/does lend itself to such a feeling... two segments which stand out in my mind in this regard are 1) "I had a girl in summer time, with summer colored skin...' and, even more so, 2) the last verse which comes off particularly powerful in 'male mode', 'I'll lock the vagrant winter out, and bolt my wanderin' in...' ...on top of this, in a strong male voice, the melody line is very powerful, tending to give the listener chills if done right. 'nuff said. pat Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 07:01:42 -0400 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: 'Goers' (NJC) Catherine catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca wrote >(Desperately trying to think of >a phrase only Canadians would >understand. Oh yeah. I am.) I am. (?) Is that 'I am dot'? (short for 'Dorothy', perhaps?) or 1 am Is that a big deal for Canadians? - Over here we stay up way beyond that. Even on a work night! I guess lumberjacks need their sleep. or is this just 'I am' ? as in "I sleep therefore 'I am'" PaulC (who has just given Joni a solo standing ovation and is off to the imaginary party.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 02:26:31 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: C'mon already! I'm *BEGGING*! Please, please, please...somebody post about tonight...this is killing me! - ----------------- So when you see a man who's broken / Pick him up and carry him. And when you see a woman who's broken / Put her all into your arms 'Cause we don't know where we come from / We don't know what we are. Laurie Anderson, "Ramon" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:34:24 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: C'mon already! I'm *BEGGING*! Yeah!! Didn't anybody have the foresight to take a wireless laptop with them to the concert? Come on I can't stay up all night, but I will! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Hess To: Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 11:26 PM Subject: C'mon already! I'm *BEGGING*! > Please, please, please...somebody post about tonight...this is killing me! > > > ----------------- > So when you see a man who's broken / Pick him up and carry him. > And when you see a woman who's broken / Put her all into your arms > 'Cause we don't know where we come from / We don't know what we are. > Laurie Anderson, "Ramon" > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 07:29:05 -0400 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: Goers (was May 12th : At Last!NJC) > mes petits, > what on earth are you two talking about? greek goers? suits? sir? are you > two into s&m or something? talk to me, boy. What's 's&m'? Some new American fad? I've heard of 'm&m's. PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:00:27 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: Not a bad idea, getting tired playing hearts on the PC. At least we know somebody is having fun. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Les Irvin To: ; Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 11:47 PM > So... either of you have a deck of cards while we wait?? :-) > Les > ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #250 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?