From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #219 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Friday, April 28 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 219 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: greetings from the U.K. [Catherine McKay ] Re: Betty Buckley, et. al. [Catherine McKay ] Re: Thanks [Mark Domyancich ] Re: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? [Lori Fye ] BSN Concert-wear NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lamadoo\)" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #218 ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lamadoo\)" ] Fwd: Check this out (NJC) [jan gyn ] RE: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? ["Carver, Dax" ] Pics for Mac Owners (Screen Saver) NJC ["Ken (slarty)" ] Concord Ca show(njc) [DARICEM@sfpl.lib.ca.us] Re: Oh I remember Joni.... [IVPAUL42@aol.com] RE: Vanessa Redgrave NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: pre-concert gathering 5/22 (njc) [dsk ] Re: Joni in New Zealand [Gerald McNamara ] RE: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? [Deb Messling ] Re: NJC Re: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? [Guitarpoi] Re: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? [dsk ] Re: pre-concert 5/22 (njC) [Gellerray@aol.com] Prince and the Time (NJC) [evian ] Maryland preconcert gathering [Marian ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:46:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: greetings from the U.K. > "annie honjo" wrote: > I don't drive, so find myself waiting for buses > (this is England, > remember) which invariably come late so what do I do > to pass the time? > Pick a Joni album and sing it track for track, word > for word, with all > the instrumental fills - as on 'Let the Wind Carry > Me' for example - > until the bus comes. Anyone else out there do this? Annie, I am amazed - you must have incredible focussing power, to be able to sing the whole album including the instrumental stuff! I've tried to do that, and I can usually hear it find in my head, but when I try to vocalize it, I immediately forget how it goes! I know people who meditate and so on, and who have very good concentration - they can build an entire house in their mind. To me, this is amazing. ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:54:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Betty Buckley, et. al. - --- "James L. Leonard" wrote: > Here are some more artists on the Joni Covers CDs I > don't know: who are > Nana Mouskouri - - very popular Greek singer, popular throughout Europe. Anyone who studied French in the 70's would probably have heard many of Nana's French-language songs > Lani Hall - - don't know too much about her, but she has a nice voice. I believe she was married to Herb Alpert. I couldn't tell you about any of the others, but would be willing to bet someone else can! ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:12:36 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Thanks The HOSL demos are available. I can make a tape of them for you for blanks and postage, if you like. OTOH, the Mingus demos are somewhere but as far as I know no listmember has them. And if so show yourself! :D NP-(still) Grateful Dead-9/28/75 At 11:54 AM -0700 4/27/00, James L. Leonard wrote: >On the website last night, in the "Rarities" area, I noticed two things that >I'm dying to know more about: 1) the acoustic demos of THOSL material, and >2) the sessions for Mingus, with different musicians than those on the >actual album. What are these two "rarities" like? Are they great? Are they >album length, or just a few tracks each? Anyway, any information and/or >reviews would be appreciated. If these haven't been discussed lately, please >post to the list for everyone to read. - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net Tape trading --> homepage.mac.com/mtd/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:16:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? Dax wrote: > On top of that, nothing past the '70s was performed. > > Anyone have any ideas! Here's an idea: perhaps the performers chose to do songs that are especially memorable to them from their own "formative" years. If you consider the age of most of the performers, it makes some sense that the songs they chose would be early ones. Of course, for the broadest popular appeal -- or to get someone to stop channel surfing because they recognize a tune -- songs from the 70s are best because that was the decade when Joni had most of her "hits." I dig Cassy's suggestion that there might be a sequel! Cross yer fingers! : ) Lori in DC, another die-hard DED and CMIARS fan who admits to liking "Dancin' Clown" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:07:08 -0500 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: By The Seat of My Pants Hi Kids- I have almost coaught up with the digests, but have been really crazy with Jazz Fest and so many other gigs. I will try to report on all the amazing shows we are doing over the next 2 weeks. I've got Eryka Badu in rehearsals and at an evening concert, Lenny Kravitz next week evening show, Blues Traveller here in the warehouse for rehearsals next week, etc. etc. The phone has been ringing off the wall with more artists wanting to sign up for the show. The music rags have started plugging the show. And a buzz is happening. If anyone is coming to NO for the fest please email me privately and we can hook up out there. William is showing his art out there and I hope to hook up with him. Rick I really loved your tribute to Kakki. From the first words I knew exactly who your blind date was and echo those emotions. Looking forward to your party in LA. Everybody have a wonderful weekend and Anne Sandstrom get well soon. Love to all. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:09:45 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lamadoo\)" Subject: BSN Concert-wear NJC Hmmm. Joni's into a dressup fantasy. Okay, I'll wear my black suit! Away put the Appalachian dulcimer! Bring in the violins! This is gonna be great! As Marsha Doyle might have said, "EEEEEEouh HAH !!" Deb said: For those wondering what to wear to their upcoming concert, Joni says in the new Downbeat magazine that it would be an excellent opportunity to dress up! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:18:58 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lamadoo\)" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #218 Okay, I'm answering from the Digest mode so.... no smirking about how late this is! Hell asked: What song, other than the Righteous Brothers' "Unchained Melody" does Joni sing line/s from in Chinese Cafe Is it "will you still love me, tomorrow" on carole king's tapestry? Fingers crossed, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:29:40 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: RE: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? I think if Sir Elton had decided to do Two Grey Rooms instead of Free Man in Paris he would have blown the place away. This brings me back to the "Joni is Hard" issue. If artists like Elton John and kd lang were peeing in their pants playing for Joni what would it be like if they were doing material like "Slouching Toward Bethlehem" or even "Sex Kills?" I would love to have seen kd try Impossible Dreamer. ah the beauty! I also want to see palmer and plant do Lead Balloon!! :-) sue ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 02:34:27 +0700 From: "Janet Field" Subject: Re: Joni in New Zealand > From: "Helen M. Adcock" > Subject: Joni in New Zealand > > A question for the trivia buffs out there. Out of morbid curiosity, I > recently did a search on the Article section of the new-and-improved JMDL > site (great job, by the way, Les!) on "New Zealand". It brought back one > article from 1982, which said that Joni toured here, or intended touring > here in 1983 - > > Does anyone know if this tour took place, and if so, did Joni make it to NZ? I haven't noticed any other replies to this so yes, Helen - she did; I was at her concert in the (old) Wellington Town Hall (with an excellent seat just front of stage on the balcony). Lots of "Wild Things Run Fast" songs - not much piano during the evening although "Chinese Cafe" I remember as being sublime. Larry Klein on bass. It was a big ticket item for a poor varsity student but worth every cent. Can't remember what else she did in NZ, sorry, although I vaguely recollect a Listener write-up of a somewhat fractious interview. So now you know.... Janet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:32:09 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Fwd: Check this out (NJC) >This is a cute site. Pull this up and find yours: > > www.highschoolalumni.com > >Then you can add your info so your friends can find you too! > >I did it and it's too cool (or, in my case, depressing. -jan.) > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:39:03 -0400 From: "Carver, Dax" Subject: RE: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? Well, I loved the performances they did have. I mean, I certainly wouldn't have wanted them to ignore the 70s! But, I love love love TWO GREY ROOMS! My god, that song! I think performing at least a few of her more recent songs like TWO GREY ROOMS and THE MAGDALENE LAUNDRIES would have opened some of the fans eyes who were there thinking she hasn't produced since the 70s. You know, these people do exist. They only know what the radio tells them. If a singer isn't on the radio at all, they tend to forget these artists exist. dax > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan McNamara [SMTP:sem8@cornell.edu] > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 3:30 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? > > I think if Sir Elton had decided to do Two Grey Rooms instead of Free > Man in Paris he would have blown the place away. > > This brings me back to the "Joni is Hard" issue. If artists like > Elton John and kd lang were peeing in their pants playing for Joni > what would it be like if they were doing material like "Slouching > Toward Bethlehem" or even "Sex Kills?" > > I would love to have seen kd try Impossible Dreamer. ah the beauty! > > I also want to see palmer and plant do Lead Balloon!! :-) > > sue > ____________________ > /____________________\ > ||-------------------|| > || Sue McNamara || > || sem8@cornell.edu || > ||___________________|| > || O etch-a-sketch O || > \___________________/ > > > > "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:39:55 EDT From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Re: Betty's "I Had A King" In a message dated 04/27/2000 3:17:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jll@tampabay.rr.com writes: << It may be the best performance on the entire Joni Covers set! Wow! I really liked the medley with "If I Remember You." It made it that much more poignant. Really, really beautiful. >> Hi Jim! So glad that you are now a fan of Betty's. I've met her on a few occasions and she is a very lovely lady. She is one of those performers who is a delight to watch. She really gets into the music and is a great interpreter, be it Joni, Sondheim, Brecht or Rogers/Hart. FYI, Betty wrote "If I Remember You". Stephen I also supplied the Ethel Ennis--all I know is that she is an old jazz singer who has been kicking around for years and this cut comes from a CD that was released about a year or two ago. Travis--a "new" English group. They seem to love Joni. I will be sending Bob a cover of Urge For Going. Lani Hall--was indeed married to Herb Alpert. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:54:55 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? In a message dated 4/27/00 12:31:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sem8@cornell.edu writes: << I also want to see palmer and plant do Lead Balloon!! :-) >> I am getting fed up and tired of these continuing references to K D langs clothes. marcel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:47:23 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni Cover Artists Hi Boston Jim! I agree with Stephen that Betty Buckley is phenomenally talented. Listening to her "I Had A King" gave me major chills. It is stunning. I'm on digest and you've probably had answers to this, but I'll throw in 2 cents - > Here are some more artists on the Joni Covers CDs I don't know: who are Caroline Lavelle, Nana >Mouskouri, Ethel Ennis (!), Lani Hall, Ian Shaw, Jesse Hultberg, Travis, Jacqui Fitzgerald, When The >Cat's Away, Kristen Vigard, Kevyn Lettau, Sharon Cuneta, Susan Webb (related to Jimmy?), and >David Blue? Lani Hall was one of the original "girl" singers for Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66. When Sergio was first recording for A&M, record company co-owner Herb Alpert fell for Lani and they have been married now for over 30 years. She did several solo albums in the 70s and 80s and I love her voice. (Although I think she went a little over the top with the Joni songs!). Susan Webb is Jimmy's little sister and he helped her produce two albums in the 70s. She is a rabid Joni fan and also covered Big Yellow Taxi, I believe. She also sings back-up vocals with David Crosby on Joni's "Down to You" from "Court and Spark". I'm not familiar with Kevyn Lettau but she plays every month at my fave music place, LaVeLee, and I'm hoping to catch her soon. Kakki NP: Mary Black - Fields of Gold (from her new album) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:02:41 -0400 From: "Ken (slarty)" Subject: Pics for Mac Owners (Screen Saver) NJC If you are a Mac Owner and the Joni Art Screen Saver will not run for you, here you will find all the pictures and hopefully you will be able to incorporate them into some Mac software. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:08:26 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? >In a message dated 4/27/00 12:31:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >sem8@cornell.edu writes: > ><< > I also want to see palmer and plant do Lead Balloon!! :-) > >> > >I am getting fed up and tired of these continuing references to K D langs >clothes. marcel he he!!! tres chic!! my favorite description is still what's on the JM site: that she dressed as the cover of DJRD!!! :-) ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:13:52 -0400 From: "Ken (slarty)" Subject: Re:#2 Pics for Mac Owners (Screen Saver) NJC Sorry, I forgot the link: http://millennium.fortunecity.com/sherwood/452/art/ "Ken (slarty)" wrote: > If you are a Mac Owner and the Joni Art Screen Saver will not run for > you, here you will find all the pictures and hopefully you will be able > to incorporate them into some Mac software. > Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:06:44 EDT From: AngelinoCoyote@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? Marcel Wrote: If the purpose of the entire event was to get Hillary on Camera they had to do Chelsea Morning instead of Sex Kills. Dave C Responded: Marcel, If I was Regis I'd give you one million dollars for that answer. Dave c Coyote Laughed: Is that your final answer? No regrets, (or millions) Coyote Casa Alegre Hollywood, California I'll be dancin' on a pony keg. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:09:59 +1200 From: "Hamish Watson" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #162 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:04:37 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Joni in New Zealand A question for the trivia buffs out there. Out of morbid curiosity, I recently did a search on the Article section of the new-and-improved JMDL site (great job, by the way, Les!) on "New Zealand". It brought back one article from 1982, which said that Joni toured here, or intended touring here in 1983 - the text is as follows: "She's presently in the midst of preparing for an extensive tour?her first in three years? which kicks off in Japan in February, takes her through New Zealand, Australia, Europe and concludes in America in mid-'83" Does anyone know if this tour took place, and if so, did Joni make it to NZ? I have to confess that I hadn't really discovered Joni at this point (I was 16) so have no memory from the press at the time. But I need to know, since I've always thought that Joni has never been here? Hell _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz Hello, Well the answer is yes she did. In fact I was at the concert in Wellington! I think it was around April either 82 or 83 (so long ago). It was just after the WTRF album. We had hoped she would tour with the SAL band. She adopted an American Grafitti style show, with a rock and roll feel to the songs. She wore a big baseball jacket. Pretty cool anyway. Hamish.Watson@dia.govt.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:50:11 -0500 From: dave fairall / beth miller Subject: Oh I remember Joni.... {My sister loved Joni Mitchell up through Hejira, then gave her up. } I know what you mean Deb. There are so many Joni fans who paid only token attention to most of her post Hejira albums. It's really frustrating having to justify and explain the significance of DJRD, S+L, Mingus, etc.....and again Night Ride Home, and Turbulent Indigo, to folks whose remembrance of Joni is limited to Clouds or Free Man. I've bored many with my late night post-gig rambling diatribes championing Joni's recent catalogue. DF Baltimore ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:43:12 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? In a message dated 4/27/00 3:06:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, AngelinoCoyote writes: << Marcel Wrote: If the purpose of the entire event was to get Hillary on Camera they had to do Chelsea Morning instead of Sex Kills. Dave C Responded: Marcel, If I was Regis I'd give you one million dollars for that answer. Dave c Coyote Laughed: Is that your final answer? >> No actually, now that I think of it Joni needs to change the name of her song to "Sex if it doesnt kill can nearly get you impeached" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:50:32 EDT From: RSTM@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? In a message dated 4/27/2000 3:45:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, MDESTE1@aol.com writes: << No actually, now that I think of it Joni needs to change the name of her song to "Sex if it doesn't kill can nearly get you impeached" >> How about Sex Doesn't Kill, and its great for the economy!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:08:20 EDT From: Leenycas@aol.com Subject: May 23, MSG Theatre Show--Anybody going? I've been on the list for quite awhile, but don't contribute very often. Guess I just like to soak up what everyone else is saying. But, had to relate this. Didnt't think I was going to be able to go to either NY show, I'm trying to watch expenses. My husband announced to me tonite that he has ordered a ticket for the 5/23 show for me and my kids are paying my train fare to NY from Albany. I'm absolutely thrilled. I know a lot of you are going to the 5/22 show, but is anyone going to the 5/23. I'd love to be able to meet some of you and enjoy this show with you. Colleen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:16:17 +0100 From: catman Subject: NJC Re: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? > No actually, now that I think of it Joni needs to change the name of her song > to "Sex if it doesnt kill can nearly get you impeached" Don't you people listen? He didn't have 'sexual relations with that woman'. No, he was given a blow job. And we all know that that aint sex. Don't we? It certainly was not covered in sex education at school so it can't be sex. Now had he screwed a Kangaroo THAT would have been sex.(I got my 'sex eductaion' in Aussie and they showed us a film of Kangaroos having sex. Twenty six years later, I have yet to meet a Kangaroo I really felt that way about). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:19:33 +0100 From: catman Subject: Manure NJC As I walk my dogs I pass a house that has a sign saying'horse manure one pound a bag'. This gave me an idea. I put up a sign outside my house 'dog shit free-pick your own'. No takers though. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:35:19 -0700 From: DARICEM@sfpl.lib.ca.us Subject: Concord Ca show(njc) I have been to the Concord (now Chronicle Pavilion) many times. There is really no eating or meeting places close to the Pavilion. The parking lot itself is huge and takes a while to walk in. I think the suggestion of a picnic on the lawn would really be the best deal. Darice ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:32:08 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Oh I remember Joni.... In a message dated 4/27/00 6:42:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, davebeth@bellatlantic.net writes: << There are so many Joni fans who paid only token attention to most of her post Hejira albums. It's really frustrating having to justify and explain the significance of DJRD, S+L, Mingus, etc.....and again Night Ride Home, and Turbulent Indigo, to folks whose remembrance of Joni is limited to Clouds or Free Man. >> I think I am with the majority of the population, though probably not the majority of this list, when I say I find Joni's albums after Hejira (and Mingus, though that's another category all by itself) to be too dense, difficult, obtuse, choose you word. It was no surprise to me that these PERFORMERS did not choose any songs from those later albums because they simply aren't as much fun to perform and, to be perfectly honest, are not the albums that inspired these talented people to listen, enjoy and emulate Joni to begin with. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:45:56 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Vanessa Redgrave NJC didn't vanessa redgrave have a child with franco nero? I WANT TO HAVE A CHILD WITH FRANCO NERO TOO!!!! or at least i want to try and try and try and try.... wallyk >I couldn't help noticing how much Natasha > Richardson is beginning to look like her mother. I always knew that Vanessa > Redgrave was her mother, but now it's really starting to show as she gets > older. > > Hell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:04:41 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: pre-concert gathering 5/22 (njc) Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > ...15-minute walk to the Garden, the place is clean and attractive. This is > definitely not true of the Blarney Stone. I went there on April whatever, > before the Tribute, hoping to see some JMDL people and that place was > disgusting. Well, let's see, I guess you were one of the people that went to some trouble trying, in a very short amount of time, to figure out where to meet near the Hammerstein, which happens to be in the non-residential garment district, as you know. Oh, you didn't help out? Actually, you offered not a single word of advice at the time, and now you publicly complain about it? Hmmmfff!!! I say, along with "graceless", and a few other words I'll keep to myself. My miffy fit being almost over, I also want to wish everyone lots of fun on the 22nd! Judy's sounds like a very pleasant place. I expect to be traveling that Monday so won't be there, but I'm already looking forward to some of those keen-eyed well-written reviews that JMDLers do so well. Enjoy, and please keep those fingers limber. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 0:14:27 UTC From: Gerald McNamara Subject: Re: Joni in New Zealand Helen wrote: Does anyone know if this tour took place, and if so, did Joni make it to NZ? >I have to confess that I hadn't really discovered Joni at this point (I was >16) so have no memory from the press at the time. But I need to know, since >I've always thought that Joni has never been here? > Yeah Helen, Joni's concert tour of 1983 included Australia and New Zealand. I saw her here in Melbourne. I still say it's the best live show I've ever seen, but the memory of it's getting a little more vague each year ! On the recording of her last show in Australia at the Sydney Opera House, she says something like, "I'm off to New Zealand now. I don't know what to expect but I've heard that the sheep outnumber the people over there. So the concert will be like ....'baaaaaaa'. " As if you haven't heard enough sheep jokes already, now we have Joni doing them ! Don't you think that she's due for her second performing visit downunder ?? -Gerald ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:21:47 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: RE: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? Way, way early in the list, people were offering suggestions on covers they'd like to hear, and someone suggested Elton John on "Two Grey Rooms." I think that would be stunning. At 03:39 PM 4/27/00 -0400, you wrote: >Well, I loved the performances they did have. I mean, I certainly wouldn't >have wanted them to ignore the 70s! But, I love love love TWO GREY ROOMS! Deb Messling messling@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~messling/ ~there are only three kinds of people: those who can count, and those who can't. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:28:36 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Pre-concert 5/22 NJC Hey Alison: I'll see if I can get out of work early for the party. I'll be the one with the camera bag at the bar where I hope I can smoke, otherwise I'm leaving. :-D What time? Also, thanks Ken for the screen saver. I love it! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:38:51 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Vanessa Redgrave NJC There's something about the > older generation of English actresses that just oozes "class". Oh dear. I can remember when Vanessa was one of the younger generation of English actresses. And a rebellious & controversial one at that! Where does the time go? Hell, have you ever seen 'Camelot' or 'Blow-up' or 'Morgan'? Some of those 60s films from the 'mod' era when Vanessa was a fresh faced ingénue. She was amazing even then. 'Playing For Time' is another one that is first rate. It was a TV movie about the French singer Fania Fenelon who was in the Resistance in WWII & put into a Nazi concentration camp. One of the most powerful pieces ever made for TV with an amazing Vanessa match by the equally fine Jane Alexander. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:01:22 EDT From: Guitarpoint@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Re: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? < Twenty six years later, I have yet to meet a Kangaroo I really felt that way about > Maybe you should try a better club. LOL Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:59:57 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Joni Tribute - What happened to the '80s and '90s? Lori Fye wrote: > Here's an idea: perhaps the performers chose to do > songs that are especially memorable to them from their > own "formative" years. If you consider the age of > most of the performers, it makes some sense that the > songs they chose would be early ones. Maybe, but I doubt if the performers had much choice in what they sang. My guess is that they were able to choose between 2 or 3 songs the producers (or whoever was "designing" the show) decided was suitable material for that particular performer. Of course, there may have been some exceptions, such as Cyndi Lauper insisting on doing Carey because it meant so much to her (I'm guessing here), or kd lang doing Help Me because she's done it for the tribute album and it's familiar to her. But it was obvious from the taped segments how much preparation had been done, and the actual show was so organized and IMO well designed, that I don't think much was left up to the performers. They probably showed up a day or two beforehand, did a few rehearsals, and then the show was on. > Of course, for the broadest popular appeal -- or to > get someone to stop channel surfing because they > recognize a tune -- songs from the 70s are best > because that was the decade when Joni had most of her > "hits." Yes, that makes sense. There's always the market share concern, that always-present tension between what's commercial and what's artistic. My wish list for a fuller tribute includes some happy love songs, like Solid Love and Night Ride Home, so that all the people who think Joni does only dreary, in-romantic-distress songs could hear another side of her. > I dig Cassy's suggestion that there might be a sequel! I like the sequel suggestion, too, especially since the show ended so abruptly with Mingus. I'd lost track of time and was waiting for it to just keep on going. I remember wondering how they were going to present DED, and was looking forward to NRH, and especially to hearing something from TTT done on non-VG-8 instruments (pure fantasy about that last one -- I wasn't THAT out of it timewise). I think the fact that the newest song was from 1979 shows how complex her work is. It's taken that long for her "early" work to be appreciated and absorbed by enough people to make a nationwide production possible. Just hope it's not a 20-year wait until the tribute that covers her 1980-2000 years. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:04:29 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Oh I remember Joni.... In a message dated 04/27/2000 7:35:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, IVPAUL42@aol.com writes: << It was no surprise to me that these PERFORMERS did not choose any songs from those later albums because they simply aren't as much fun to perform and, to be perfectly honest, are not the albums that inspired these talented people to listen, enjoy and emulate Joni to begin with. >> Hmmmm where do I begin. For starters playing "Sunny Sunday" is so much fun. I also love playing "Yevette in English". They are FUN for me so I don't know you would say that. I think there was only so much time (since the show was nly two hours long) and they had to pick and chose more mainstream songs. Since people heard or knew most of the songs played, it is reasonable to assume that that was a major reason. (I wonder if the tuning factor was an issue?) Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:51:48 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: pre-concert gathering 5/22 (njc) Actually, I didn't try to figure out anything...I just read on the list that it was gonna be the Blarney Stone and accepted that as a done deal. Maybe I just didn't pay attention to the discussion that led up to that decision. Anyhow, I'm sorry I won't get to meet you in May. DL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:53:45 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Vanessa Redgrave NJC "Morgan" has always been one of my favorites. DL ------------------------------ Date: 27 Apr 00 20:03:56 PDT From: Lucie Tetrault Subject: Missed Joni on Rosie I was so upset when I realized that my VCR and I had malfunctioned on the day Joni was on Rosie's show. Is there anyone out there (SF Bay Area or Oakland/Berkeley) who has it on tape? Does the network ever provide copies of their shows? Help me... ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:15:15 EDT From: Gellerray@aol.com Subject: Re: pre-concert 5/22 (njC) In a message dated 4/27/00 12:31:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, alisone@kirkhams.com writes: << sounds good to me, and i think there are about 10 or so people who are meeting there. maybe we should get a head count of sorts, and pick a time, etc. you will know me when you see me. kd graciously loaned me her outfit. i will look like a fifth grader who raided the lost and found at meow mix. ha ha. take care, alison >> hey alison, I very much like this idea of meeting there at judy's chelsea. I just worked 13 hours and so I am exhausted so I can barely think but i wanted to write something so you wouldn't think me rude. What time indeed? ray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:13:49 -0600 From: evian Subject: Prince and the Time (NJC) > He even named the second album from his Funk outfit "The Time" (with fellow > Minnesotans Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis) " Ice Cream Castles", without doubt > picking Joni's thoughts about Clouds. > > Oh God, I love ICE CREAM CASTLES.... what a great album, and a great song. That is one song that should have been a huge hit. It's irresistible! And damn, I would LOVE to hear the purple dude do A Case of You! Evian, entering day 4 of dental hell, and praying this new batch of antibiotics will actually work before I yank the damn thing out with pliers. . . Calgon, take me the hell away....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:20:04 +0200 From: Marian Subject: Maryland preconcert gathering I think Loren Carter is organizing a pre-concert gathering on May 25th. I can't find his email address, so am writing a general message to the list. I will be going to the concert with my sister, Jennifer. CaTGirl627@aol.com will be attending with someone named Walter. I know Lori Fye is going with her partner. And Loren is going. Are there any other listers attending the Maryland concert? Are there any fixed plans yet, Loren? Marian NPIMH: Tweeter & The Monkey Man - Dylan ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #219 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?