From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #177 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Saturday, April 8 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 177 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Reviews ["Michael Paz" ] a few more tribute thoughts [PFallo@aol.com] Re: Tribute show [Mike Friedman ] Tribute Concert [Kenny Grant ] more tnt tribute stuff [PFallo@aol.com] Re: Letterman loves Joni [Catherine McKay ] Crosby Gives Joni Her Due (Long) [leslie@torchsongs.com] Re: Richard Thompson (NJC) [Ginamu@aol.com] Joni Tickets for Sale: May 13, Concord, California [Richard Goldman ] Re: Letterman (NJC) ["Kakki" ] Re: tour reports ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Richard Thompson (NJC) [dsk ] richard thompson recommendations sjc [PFallo@aol.com] Re: joni tnt tribute recap ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: more tnt tribute stuff [Randy Remote ] Re: richard thompson recommendations sjc [dsk ] Covers Project Update [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Letterman (NJC) ["Mark or Travis" ] JONI picture-of-the-day [RAVEN@igc.org] Re: JONI picture-of-the-day [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Tribute Concert [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: JONI picture-of-the-day ["Mark or Travis" ] RE: a few more tribute thoughts ["patrick leader" ] Re: Letterman (NJC) [dsk ] RE: JONI picture-of-the-day ["patrick leader" ] Richard Thompson NJC [john low ] Re: Alan's Creative Writing Project (SJC) ["Alan Lorimer" ] photos of TNT etc [Bounced Message ] Joni's accent, etc. [Bounced Message ] Tribute Review from Allstar.com [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Joni Tribute Concert [WirlyPearl@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:56:30 -0500 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Reviews Hello All- Thanks to Patrick and the rest of the NYC krewe for the wonderful reviews of the show. I can't wait to see it. I especially enjoyed Patrick's talk with Joni and Rosie. That bitch Rosie didn't even invite ME to the taping! I will be in Honduras over the weekend and will be away so if anything happens please send a carrier pigeon looking for me. Anne I am so happy you are doing better and that Kitty came home. You are in my thoughts and prayers everyday and should you need a little extra TLC, you can always come to JoniFest2000 New Orleans. We'll take good care of you. I have to gush here a little and tell you of my good fortune. Last week on my B-day I met Steven Stills brother William. He is a wonderful guy and we hit it off very well. Our lives are very similar and actually some of my old school buddies came up with the Stills family and there have been these parellels throughout my life. Anyway I have been invited to attend the closing concert with him in St. Louis. Hopefully they won't mind being pestered into coming to JoniFest2000 New Orleans. William says Steven can't resist New Orleans cookin'. Oh please, PLEASE God! Have a wonderful weekend and much mucis to you all. Michael NP-Okra-Olu Dara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:27:17 EDT From: PFallo@aol.com Subject: a few more tribute thoughts in my report i did forget to mention k.d. lang and her wonderful version of "help me". i'm not a fan of hers, but she won me over with her performance last night. beautiful voice, great range. another one of the funnier moments of the show was when shawn colvin and mary chapin carpenter said that when they first saw the "for the roses" cover they both ran out and bought those boots and the green velvet outfit that joni was wearing. i definitely agree with debra about cyndi lauper-what a surprise-totally making "carey" her own. interestingly enough, someone screwed up, maybe cyndi, as she repeated a verse. didn't matter because it was sooo good. fix it in post as we say. there was also a minor hiccup in elton's "free man". it looked like one of the stage managers asked him if he wanted to redo it but he declined. once again, despite all the glitz and slickness, i felt everyone was extremely heartfelt and genuine in their love and respect for joni. as to comparing it to the joni jazz tribute from central park last year- i don't think you can compare the two- apples and oranges. last night's show had a totally different focus, pretty much dealing with joni's more popular songs, yet definitely following the progression of her career culmininating with where she's at now with "both sides now". don't miss it. get your vcr's ready. phil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:33:12 -0700 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Re: Tribute show It's scheduled for two hours, so the full thing should end up. Frankly, they can cut Hillary Clinton, first! Mike - -- I'm porous with travel fever But I'm so glad to be on my own. - --Joni Mitchell, Hejira, 1976. > From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) > Reply-To: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) > Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 13:50:01 -0400 (EDT) > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Tribute show > > Thanks to all who reviewed the show. > I wish I could have attended. I have a few questions: > > How long is the televised Tribute to be? > I'm guessing they will try to package it into one hour, which, if so, > will mean much editing. I'm guessing that Dry Cleaner will be the first > to be chopped out. I wonder what else won't make the final cut. > > If it does end up edited, I hope a full length uncut video becomes > available either comercially or otherwise. > > Can hardly wait for Camden even though I have no less than 5 concerts to > look forward to, preceeding June 2. > > gdave > > NP: 4/7/72 Allman Brothers -Syracuse, NY > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > DaveBase @ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2349/index.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 17:42:16 +0000 From: Kenny Grant Subject: Tribute Concert Hi all, I've been "absent" from the list for so long now that many of you probably never saw my name before - I'm Kenny, another true Joni Mitchell fan who used to post from time to time. Hi to all the new listers out there, and huggs to my old JMDL buddies. Phil, Patrick & Deb Shea summed up the evening quite comprehensively, so I can only add some musings. I had basic $60 tix, but as seating was unreserved, and the friend (non-lister ) who I went with has alot of balls, I wound up in the 6th row, center stage, AND perfectly perpendicular to Joni, so I was able to see her reaction to everyone's performance. I can only say that she seemed very impressed overall with everyone's renditions of her songs, and appeared to be truly honored by the tribute. My favorite line, which Phil mentioned, was Elton John's. Before he did Free Man In Paris, he said (paraphrasing somewhat) "It's amazing what's going on back stage. All these gifted musicians, scurrying about nervously, saying 'oh my god, I can't believe I'm going on stage to perform a Joni song - right in front of Joni! And you know, I feel the same way, and I've performed before the Queen of England!'" That was so cool. The crowd laughed hysterically, as did Joni! Look for a review of the Tribute Concert in TV Guide. Cause the TV Guide reporter was sitting to the left of my friend, and his pen ran out of ink. I loaned him mine. I'm not a big star watcher/noticer/recognizer, but one attendee who wasn't mentioned who was there was Goldie Hawn - looking ravishing as ever. On my way out, I was about a foot away from her, and she wasn't terribly occupied, so I said what the heck. I walked up to her and said "I've been a fan of yours for many years, and just want to say that I think you're tremendously talented. Thanks for all your great work" And I shook her hand. And she smiled warmly and said "thank you." My brush with greatness :-) Was surprised that a guitar song, "Free Man in Paris," was performed on piano, and a dulcimer song "A Case Of You" was also performed on piano, but Elton John and Diana Krall did perfect justice to both of them, despite the change of musical instruments. Was super disappointed that Chaka Kahn was a no show, she stole the show at the Joni Mitchell Tribute in Central Park on 7/1/99, she's an incredible talent. Never saw Cassandra Wilson live until yesterday, and while most gave her kudos for her rendition of "Dry Cleaner from Des Moines" I personally feel that you can only do so much with that song - no matter how many horns - and wish she'd done a different number. Having heard her rendition of Black Crow on her _____ album, I know she can take a Joni song and all but re-invent it. Bumped into Patrick and Kay Ashley, and after telling them about the 6th row center stage seats I scored, I hope they remain friends:-) I don't mean to harp on my wonderful seats, but after a life of lousy concert seats, I still can't get over it. And now I hear that Heather scored 2nd row - for Joni's BSN show in CT !!! CAN'T WAIT, thanks Heather!!! CSNY this past Tues. Joni Tribute Thurs. And Tina Turner tonight at Madison Square Garden...when it rains, it pours! BTW, the TNT broadcast of the Joni Mitchell tribute is Sun 4/16 9PM Eastern Later guys. Best, -Kenny ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:51:53 EDT From: PFallo@aol.com Subject: more tnt tribute stuff it'll definitely be a 2 hr. broadcast, so nothing should be cut out unless something really tanked (nothing did) and since they generally taped a take during soundcheck that shouldn't be a problem. glad to see everyone's in agreement about cyndi lauper's segment. phil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:11:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Letterman loves Joni - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > < too darn "American" (sorry, Yanks, but there's a > certain *type*, and he's the very essence of it), > full > of himself, always looking around to see what kind > of > reaction he's getting from others, always has that > kind of sarcastic sneerish smile on his face. >> > > I've always loved Letterman, now I know why!! :~D > > Bob Tres funny, Boberino. The truth is, I'm jealous - I wish I could be that way! Life would be so much simpler! ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) From: leslie@torchsongs.com Subject: Crosby Gives Joni Her Due (Long) The following is part of an interview from the March 2000, Acoustic Guitar magazine with David Crosby on the cover. The interview took place between Simone Solondz and David Crosby. The Joni content came into the interview after Simone (AG) asked David (DC) about his writing style and he replied that the words come first. DC: Yeah. One of the big effects on my writing was (Joni) Mitchell telling me to write stuff down. She said, "David, you throw away more good phrases in an afternoon than most people can come up with in a week. What's wrong with you, you brainless twit? Write your shit down!" And I learned from her that if you get even two words in a row that mean something, that make you feel something, you should write them down. So I do. AC: Do you find that collaborating is different with everybody you work with? DC: Yeah, and I really like doing it. I like it because when you write or play or sing with other people there's a natural exchange that goes on. You learn stuff from them, and they learn stuff from you. You are enriched by it and broadened by it, and so are they. I've written with a lot of people, very diverse people: Michael Hedges, Phil Collins, Joni Mitchell. AC: What are some of the methods that have worked for you? DC: There's no set way. Sometimes you have a set of words and you say, "here," and wait to see what happens. And it's like sticking a bomb in someone's pocket if you wrote really good words. AC: Has it ever happened that what they come back to you with is so different from what you imagined that it doesn't really work, and you say, "Hmm, maybe not"? DC: No, I've been lucky. Joni took a set of words I gave her and just ran for the horizon. AC: Is that "Yvette In English"? DC: Yeah. AC: That's a great song. DC: I love it dearly. But she truly, truly ran with it. I only gave her the bare bones of what that song is. I still have what I wrote, and you can see that she started where I started, but she's a way better writer than I am, and she went for it. That song is at least three-quarters hers. She wrote all the music. She wrote at least as many of the words as I did. And she took it to a level that I could never have gotten it to. I think she is the most brilliant singer-songwriter of all. I mean, I love Dylan. He's a good poet. But musically, she's light years ahead of him, and that's what kicks it over the top for me. AC: Were you both coming up with alternate tunings at the same time? DC: I was working in tunings when I met her, and she was working in tunings, so we influenced each other. She was writing songs like "Michael From Mountains," and I was writing "Guinnevere," and we couldn't help but listen to each other. I think she's probably more advanced at it than anybody except Michael Hedges. Michael Hedges was pretty much unquestionably the finest acoustic guitar player of this century. He took tunings to a level that nobody except Joni has ever gotten close to. Leslie Mixon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:12:22 EDT From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: Re: Richard Thompson (NJC) In a message dated 04/07/2000 1:31:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dsk11@bellatlantic.net writes: << > Before all the Richard-only Thompson's dominate the suggestions, I must > must must make a plea for _Shoot Out the Lights_, ...... Get it. >> Funny I should be reading your suggestion, as I just returned home from the record store with it. I'm about to pop it into the player. I've heard quite a few cuts from it over the years and I had to have for my very own! I also bought Sweet Baby James and Revolver. It's fun time! Take care, Gina ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:28:40 -0700 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Joni Tickets for Sale: May 13, Concord, California For Joni's concert at the Concord Pavillion on Saturday May 13. We still have 8 tickets left in section 105 and 103, row S Please contact me directly if you are interested. Richard2SF@earthlink.net aka RichardSF Thanks! http://www.home.earthlink.net/~richard2sf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:46:45 -0700 (PDT) From: leslie@torchsongs.com Subject: Tour 2000 I've been wondering, will there be an opening act for Joni? If so, anyone know who it will be? Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:03:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Letterman loves Joni NJC - --- catman wrote: > I > > used to like Oprah as a person and as an actor, > but, > > from what I've heard lately, she has just become > > totally WEIRD. > > How has Oprah become weird? > Don't ask me - I've never watched her! some of my co-workers were talking about her and mentioned about her getting into some new-age type quasi-religious stuff, but this may only have been a one-time occurrence and that may have been the only time they've ever watched her recently. Also, the people I work with are just kind of like that anyway. I work in an office where, no matter what goes wrong, it's always blamed on us, which is probably why my staff pick on celebrities - if not, they'd be kicking their dogs or beating their spouses/lovers/kids. I take whatever they have to say with a grain of salt or two. I don't necessarily believe what they're saying, but they're so amusing when they say these things, that you just have to laugh. Just consider my comments on Oprah's supposed "weirdness" to be a bit of bait that I threw out (instead of kicking one of my cats!) and you just happened to rise to it (suckah!) ;] ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:26:02 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Letterman (NJC) Catherine, I'm LOL - you wrote almost exactly what I wanted to say but was too afraid! This American agrees with you - he does unfortunately typify a certain kind of "Yank" personality that a lot of the rest of the world finds noxious. But he has the best guests, musical and otherwise, and the best band of all the available choices and his is, all in all, the best talk show, like him or not. It seriously took me about 10 years just to be able to turn on his show and then another 5 years just to tolerate him. But funny thing, in the past few years I've actually developed a true affection for him and found myself terribly upset when he had his emergency surgery in January! I guess at some point it becomes like a family member who you are so used to you eventually overlook all their irritating ways. I think he has become an institution here that we would sorely miss if he decided to quit. Kakki NP: Bangles - Where Were You When I Needed You Catherine wrote: > I find him sarcastic, cynical, > too darn "American" (sorry, Yanks, but there's a > certain *type*, and he's the very essence of it), full > of himself, always looking around to see what kind of > reaction he's getting from others, always has that > kind of sarcastic sneerish smile on his face ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:34:48 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: tour reports > > << Once the tour starts, I don't want to read any set lists or other > "spoilers". Part of the magic is being suprised, with, say, an orchestral > arrangement of "Rainy Night House" or something. I know other people DO > want every detail beforehand, and of course, the concert attendees are > eager to share their excitement. Could we maybe flag those posts at the > outset as containing set lists and such? That way those who want to be > surprised could save those posts for later (if we can hold out that long). > >> > > > I agree completely. (Oh, no - a "me too post") . Thank you again and again > for thinking of this, Deb. I sincerely hope that folks will honor it. > > Take care, > Gina > NP: Roger McGuin - Back From Rio I'm going to chime in with another 'me too' even though I am seeing the 2nd show of the tour and will be traveling to the Bay area on the night of the first one. I completely understand what Gina & Deb are saying. I'm going to tell Leslie that I don't want to read any of the reviews of the Greek show before we see Joni at Concord. I want the privilege of being able to gasp with surprise at any unexpected song Joni offers up and I think there will be others who agree. So if reviewers could label their posts in some way (I thought some of the American Beauty posts should have said 'spoiler' somewhere in the subject line), I'm sure a lot of us would be very appreciative. Of course many of us will want to show our enthusiasm right away after we've seen these shows and I'm sure we will all want to devour what everyone else has had to say once our particular concert is over. I certainly don't want to discourage anybody from posting reviews! There are some of us, unfortunately (I really feel for you guys in the UK & Down Under - welcome back John, I loved your travelogue post!) who won't get the chance to see any of these shows and I'm sure they will be hanging on every word that is written on the JMDL about them. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 20:40:38 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Richard Thompson (NJC) philipf@tinet.ie wrote: > I love Shoot Out the Lights too, but I don't think it's possible to get a > better Thompson record than I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight > the first one with Linda. I came back from the store with his newest one, Mock Tudor, and even before I'd finished listening to the whole thing, realized that this is going to be a long relationship. And expensive, so this CD you're recommending will go on my list also, as a "get soon". And then I'll be getting all the others. He's the only one since hearing Joni the first time that gets me in every way. I love the sound of his voice and guitar-playing, and the lyrics that are a little edgy and critical and very observant and express such vulnerability. Again not since Joni, the words are so impressive, I sat listening and reading the lyrics. Even though his pronunciation is very clear, I didn't want to miss anything. And he started in Fairport Convention? I always liked them but was never captured, and only think of Sandy Denny's voice when I think of their music so, until now, RT was unknown to me. I didn't find the other two CDs that had been mentioned, but there was a 3-CD Richard Thompson set, which was not only expensive, but had so much material it was overwhelming. Does anyone have that? I'm thinking it would be better to get single CDs first, and maybe later get this set. It also made me think that Joni is wise to not do such a boxed set. Her work is so complex, taking it in even one-CD at a time can be challenging. Debra Shea Still thinking about what I heard and saw last night... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 20:39:43 EDT From: PFallo@aol.com Subject: richard thompson recommendations sjc while joni is in a class all by herself-richard thompson is definitely right behind her as a singer/songwriter, much darker with a sardonic edge. he is a great singer and an astonishing guitarist. i still can't get over his version of 'woodstock". can't wait to hear it again on tnt. absolutely slayed me. i think joni loved it as well. my two favorite studio albums of richard's are "mirror blue" and the recent "mock tudor". i think the best place to start is with "two letter words" a live 2cd set recorded in 1994 featuring many of his "greatest hits" recorded live. it is available from his fan club, flypaper at: Flypaper P.O. Box 391 Wainscott, NY 11975 his relationship with his record company, capitol, is interesting. by a special arrangement he is allowed to release a live recording every year (other year) or so, available only through his fan club outlet. it enables him to release live performances on a semi-regular basis that ordinarily his record company wouldn't be interested in but his die-hard fans are craving for. sort of like the grateful dead or more recently king crimson. imagine if joni were to open up her vaults and make available live recordings and other rarities to us through jmdl. dreamland coming on. phil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:42:03 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: joni tnt tribute recap SC Bob wrote: > 3. Bonus points to Wynonna for not using the show to boost her new record but rather doing "Radio"...wow, looks like I didn't give her enough credit! I suspect that kd had 'Help Me' reserved already. It's been rumoured that that is going to be her contribution to the 'Tribute CD' that has been in the works for a couple of decades now. I think the songs Wynonna did perform would suit her voice and style even better than 'Help Me', though, and I too applaud her choices. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 17:49:29 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: more tnt tribute stuff Isn't TNT heavily laden with commercials? PFallo@aol.com wrote: > > it'll definitely be a 2 hr. broadcast, so nothing should be cut out unless > something really tanked (nothing did) and since they generally taped a take > during soundcheck that shouldn't be a problem. glad to see everyone's in > agreement about cyndi lauper's segment. > > phil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 21:04:07 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: richard thompson recommendations sjc PFallo@aol.com wrote: > he is a > great singer and an astonishing guitarist. i still can't get over his version > of 'woodstock". can't wait to hear it again on tnt. absolutely slayed me. i > think joni loved it as well. I was completely smitten soon after he played a few notes, and then that voice! It made Woodstock a new song. > his relationship with his record company, capitol, is interesting. by a > special arrangement he is allowed to release a live recording every year > (other year) or so, available only through his fan club outlet. .... imagine > if > joni were to open up her vaults and make available live recordings and other > rarities to us through jmdl. dreamland coming on. Wouldn't that be great if Joni did such a thing! Although the tape trees get the music to at least some of her die-hard fans and no one makes any money from them (as bootleggers do), Joni's also not making any money from them. And she must have tapes of everything she's done and every performance. It's a good dream. Debra Shea P.S. I'll be writing to the fan club. Thanks very much for the address. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:54:51 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers Project Update Hey Y'all, and happy weekend!! WHOO-HOOO, what a whirlwind Joni week it's been, and it's just gonna keep getting better... Here's the latest scoop on the covers "Boxset" - I finally got the last of my seed songs so I have completed Disc 4, the last one of Volume 2. Unfortunately one of the senders didn't pan out, but I was still able to fill out the disc, which is gonna look something like this: 1. Kevyn Lettau - People's Parties 2. Tuck and Patti - Woodstock 3. Sharon Cuneta - Both Sides Now 4. Ian & Sylvia - Circle Game 5. Paul Young & Maire Brennan - Both Sides Now 6. Mathew's Southern Comfort - Woodstock 7. Susan Webb - A Case of You 8. David Blue - Lover Lover Lover (Joni vocal) 9. Jimmy Webb - Feet In The Sunshine (Joni vocal) 10. Jimmy Webb - Crying In My Sleep (Joni vocal) 11. Mark O'Connor - Both Sides Now 12. The Chieftains - Magdalene Laundries (Joni vocal) 13. The LA Express - Nordic Winds (Joni vocal) 14. Randy Scruggs - Both Sides Now 15. Kyle Eastwood - Trouble Man 16. Joni Mitchell - At Last (live 4/3/00) 17. Judy Collins - Both Sides Now 18. Herbie Hancock - The Man I Love (Joni vocal) I was excited to be able to get the Letterman performance on the disc - I hadn't gone from VCR to CD before, so I was quite a sight with wires and plugs all over the living room, but I got it to work! So those who didn't catch her Monday night can at least HEAR it before the video tree comes out... So anyway, now I'm on the homeward stretch. Step one, to get complimentary copies to the contributors, who have had Discs 1/2 for a couple weeks now. And while I'm thinking about it, here's a list of who contributed - I along with everyone else who intends to partake of this project owes you a big debt of gratitude: Kakki Randy DJ Raffaelle Joseph Philip Les Laura Stephen Helen in NZ Grateful Dave Chris O. Deb M. Julian I'll also be getting copies out to the branches: Paz (who definitely doesn't have enough to do) ;~) Phyliss Jody John Van Tiel (for the Euro crowd) Jean-Pierre (in Canada) And I'll branch as well - if you volunteered to branch and I omitted you, let me know! So stay tuned!! I'll post instructions when I've made my initial copies and sent them out - hang in there, it's more Joni than you can shake a stick at (like they say down south)! :~D I'll be posting a recap of what's on all 4 discs when I make the official "Let the Tree Begin" announcement, meanwhile if you haven't been keeping track or want a recap, e-mail me privately and I'll fill you in... Bob NP: David Blue, "Lover Lover Lover" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:57:01 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Letterman (NJC) Kakki wrote: > > I'm LOL - you wrote almost exactly what I wanted to say but was too afraid! > This American agrees with you - he does unfortunately typify a certain kind > of "Yank" personality that a lot of the rest of the world finds noxious. > But he has the best guests, musical and otherwise, and the best band of all > the available choices and his is, all in all, the best talk show, like him > or not. It seriously took me about 10 years just to be able to turn on his > show and then another 5 years just to tolerate him. But funny thing, in the > past few years I've actually developed a true affection for him and found > myself terribly upset when he had his emergency surgery in January! I guess > at some point it becomes like a family member who you are so used to you > eventually overlook all their irritating ways. I think he has become an > institution here that we would sorely miss if he decided to quit. > > Kakki On the rare occasions when I actually watch a late night tv talk show, the one I will tune in to is Letterman. Partly because he does tend to have the most interesting guests & partly because I'm a sucker for his stupid stunts & gags. Leno tries this kind of shtick & it just ends up being a pale imitation. There is something about Letterman's personality that is both endearing and irritating, though. Sometimes I find him outrageously funny and sometimes I think he's a crashing bore. But when he sends some poor schmuck out into the streets of New York with a head set to say whatever outrageous thing that pops into Letterman's twisted brain to people on the street or in a restaurant, it just cracks me up! What a powerful feeling it must be to be able to say any insulting or ridiculous thing you feel like to anybody on the street and not have to face the actual consequences! Like a total idiot I completely spaced taping Letterman on Monday night. What a yutz am I! Mark in Seattle np: Dusty Springfield Anthology - Wishin' & Hopin' - what an incredible singer this woman was! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 19:10:27 -0700 From: RAVEN@igc.org Subject: JONI picture-of-the-day I've quickly scanned the last day's posts to see if this has already been mentioned... my apologies if this is old news. Fresh from the Joni tribute is this "picture-of-the-day", with Joni, Cyndi, Chapin, and Richard Thompson: I assume it will be replaced with another photo tomorrow... whenever that is. RAVEN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:20:05 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: JONI picture-of-the-day << Fresh from the Joni tribute is this "picture-of-the-day", with Joni, Cyndi, Chapin, and Richard Thompson: >> What a warm picture - Joni just looks SO radiant lately, she's gotta be loving all this attention! PS: (On an entirely different subject) since I'm coming down to the Atlanta concert solo, I'd love to sit with a fellow JMDL'er and enjoy the show! If any of you Atlantians is planning on picking up tickets Sunday, can I talk you into getting me one next to you - I'll pay you immediately, of course, and may even have a Joni surprise to give as a thank-you! ;~) Bob NP: "At Last" from Letterman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:22:05 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Tribute Concert In a message dated 4/7/2000 5:44:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kg@ibm.net writes: << Look for a review of the Tribute Concert in TV Guide. Cause the TV Guide reporter was sitting to the left of my friend, and his pen ran out of ink. I loaned him mine. >> He is a friend of mine. His name is Fred. He got a special invite to go and revue the show. I think he will probably join our list. He is an advent taper. Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 19:29:46 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: JONI picture-of-the-day - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 7:10 PM Subject: JONI picture-of-the-day > > I've quickly scanned the last day's posts to see if this has > already been mentioned... my apologies if this is old news. > > Fresh from the Joni tribute is this "picture-of-the-day", > with Joni, Cyndi, Chapin, and Richard Thompson: > > > Thank you for this! What a picture! Cyndi is radiating genuine gratitude & admiration & Joni looks like she's about to burst into tear! Mark in Seattle np: Dusty - Some of Your Lovin' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:31:04 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: a few more tribute thoughts hey gang, >was when shawn colvin and mary chapin carpenter said that when >they first saw >the "for the roses" cover they both ran out and bought those boots and the >green velvet outfit that joni was wearing. frye boots. >once again, despite all the glitz and slickness, i felt everyone was >extremely heartfelt and genuine in their love and respect for joni. i don't think i made it clear enough in my report, but i felt exactly the same. it was deeply touching. and these were extremely accomplished musicians paying homage to an artist who makes them feel humble. trust me, these folks don't feel humble very often... as to >comparing it to the joni jazz tribute from central park last year- i don't >think you can compare the two- apples and oranges. i think i, as a concert-goer, can compare the intensity and musical integrity of of the experience and i did. but i think you hit a truth there phil. here's an amazing synchronicity: danny kapilian emailed me after my report to thank me for my words. he talked about the oddness of the experience; said it taught him some things about who he is. i quote, with apologies: "This was a fine evening, but it's not like anything I would produce." and finally "The two gigs are really apples and oranges." i wrote back: "remembering last summer's show: i won't forget (don) byron, (doug) wieselman, the percussionist and jane siberry hanging on for dear life on 'strange boy' for a long time. that's the edge that music should live on. thank you for that." and with all my fondness for last night's show, i stand by that. when musicians really risk something, magic happens. as a listener, that's where i want to be. and for the record, joni's vocal on 'both sides now' last night was out on that edge. bless her. patrick np - ndgeocello - bitter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 22:39:42 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Letterman (NJC) Mark or Travis wrote: > ... But when he sends some poor schmuck out into the streets of New > York with a head set to say whatever outrageous thing that pops into > Letterman's twisted brain to people on the street or in a restaurant, > it just cracks me up! I was laughing out loud whenever he did that, too. It was so funny because Rupert G, the deli owner, didn't seem at all the type of person to even THINK the things he was saying, and his delivery was so flat and unemotional. I think they had to stop doing those segments because Rupert G was almost physically attacked by someone. It was extremely brave of him to give it a try in the first place, especially in New York where people don't hold much back. Letterman CAN be irritating, but he's also very inventive. Going outside with a camera to talk to people, for example, is something he started, and now you see it on every show. And irritating or funny, he's at least real, and sometimes what he does can be quite touching, like introducing the medical team that operated on him and, as he said, "saving his life", and almost crying at one point (shocking to see such an emotionally cool guy be so choked up). You hardly ever see such genuineness on TV. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:46:41 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: JONI picture-of-the-day hi, cool link weird picture, doesn't catch the lovely energy between cyndi and joni during the bows. after hanging between klein and jt (those amazing exes!) a while she jumped across stage to these folks, and this certainly doesn't do the interaction with cyndi (or m c carpenter) justice. how do i feel about photography, right now? conflicted... > > >I assume it will be replaced with another photo tomorrow... >whenever that is. > > >RAVEN > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:56:19 +1000 From: john low Subject: Richard Thompson NJC Yes, Richard Thompson is one of the greats! My only suggestion to newcomers to his music is not to overlook his first solo album "Henry The Human Fly" which contains some pretty powerful songs. His work on some of Sandy Denny's albums is worth investigating too. John (in Sydney). __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:24:45 +1000 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: Alan's Creative Writing Project (SJC) I've finally made some progress and worked out how to incorporate some of the excellent feedback I've got into this project. I've set up some more web pages as a guide to show how this package may actually work. The pages based on "Amelia" and "Furry Sings The Blues" can be used as a guide to what input fellow Joni fans can make towards this project. Have a look at my website at: http://www.users.bigpond.com/AlanLorimer/welcome.htm Or if you have problems connecting, I have a "Free" website in America at: http://jonimitchell.homestead.com/files/welcome.htm I'll endeavour to keep both sites updated with the feedback that I receive. 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Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 22:11:57 -0700 From: "P. Henry" Subject: pat's guitar update - FINALLY! DRUM ROLL PLEASE... At 07:48 AM 4/6/00 -0700, pat wrote: >troy, pls disregard yesterday's email requesting a status update on my order. as of today ***I HAVE received delivery of my guitar.*** thank you for your help. pat> At 04:01AM GST Fri, 24 Mar 00, >"Service" TA DA! yup, it finally came after almost 6 months since I decided to get it. at this point I really want to thank those of you who've offered advice and help, actually quite a few of you, and most especially to michael paz who actually took his own time to go out and shop for an axe for me (as some others also offered to do) and helped me much with my decision. I only wish I'd been able to affor the one he found. thanks mike! :o) ...and thanks to the rest of you too. this is a GREAT list! furthermore, as the purpose of this whole thing was so I could consult with my hands memories of how Joni taught me to play UFG (and others) I want to assure all concerned that I will keep my word and re-examine this song and will post what I conclude. thanks to all for your patience with my stumblin, bumblin, ramblin ways. I may not be able to post as much as I used to but I'm still a'lurkin around... talk to ya again soon. (with 'the goods') pat Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 23:12:19 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: photos of TNT etc From: "Tortorici, Frank" Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:17:42 -0400 Hi listers. I haven't posted in a long time. But ... I was backstage at the TNT show covering it for SonicNet (check out my story on www.sonicnet.com either this weekend or on Monday). Anyway, I have some photos of Joni and the guests backstage that I can mail to you guys to share on either the list or Wally's site. Please advise. Thanks, Frank Tortorici ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 23:14:04 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Joni's accent, etc. Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 06:52:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Erin Stoy "Could a big part of the appeal of Joni's singing be her canadian accent? I think Joni's accent makes her singing voice very distinctive." Oh, absolutely!! Because I have been so influenced by Joni, and I sing along with her music SO often, I find my own singing voice coming out sounding Canadian! My voice teacher has had to tell me to open my vowels more and stop singing hard R's. I do what she tells me, but on my own time, I sing with Joni's intonations :) A question: What are the meet and greet mailing lists for? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:00:00 -0700 (PDT) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Tribute Review from Allstar.com Joni Mitchell Gets Her Just Desserts In New York Tribute Concert April 7, 2000, 11:15 am PT Joni MitchellAfter more than 30 years in the music business, Joni Mitchell is getting her just desserts. Her colleagues and admirers gathered to pay tribute to the singer-songwriter at New York's Hammerstein Ballroom on Thursday (April 6), and there was nothing but love in the room. Taped for broadcast on April 16, the TNT Masters Series concert featured some of today's most respected songwriters. The natural inclination would be to invite only folk artists, and Shawn Colvin, James Taylor, Richard Thompson, and Sweet Honey in the Rock certainly fit the bill. But the point of the night was to highlight Mitchell's talents as a songwriter of immeasurable intellectual and musical curiosity. Cyndi Lauper, the '80s bad girl of pop, found inspiration in a woman who wrote and played her own songs. "When I was a little girl, there weren't that many," said the subdued Lauper after her subtlety nuanced performance of "Carey," from Mitchell's Blue. "[Her music] really defined my life. She was a gypsy, and she was always beautiful." "As a guitar player, she has great instincts," Richard Thompson added later. Said k.d. Lang, who slayed the celebrity-heavy crowd with her full-bodied rendition of "Help Me": "It's a very proud thing to be a Canadian singer-songwriter. There isn't a Canadian songwriter who doesn't cite Joni as an icon." Accolades aside, the evening was about music, and, for the most part, the performers delivered, molding Mitchell's songs to fit their musical personalities. James Taylor injected his sunny melancholy into "River." Sweet Honey in the Rock gave "The Circle Game" African percussive accents, and their voices, otherwise unaccompanied, rang out in celebration. Cassandra Wilson, with eight horns in tow, mined for meaning and minor jazz scales in the multi-layered "Dry Cleaner From Des Moines." Elton John turned in a spirited "Free Man in Paris," and "You Turn Me On (I'm a Radio)" became a honky-tonk-worthy anthem, thanks to the spunky Wynonna. Thompson subbed for the no-show Stone Temple Pilots, imbuing "Woodstock" with an irony as only a Brit can. The only misses were the duets. Shawn Colvin and Mary Chapin Carpenter turned in a surprisingly flat performance of the "Chelsea Morning" / "Big Yellow Taxi" medley (even Taylor's harmonizing on the latter couldn't save it). Wynonna and Bryan Adams opened the night with "Raised on Robbery," and the pair's contrasting style (she's a little bit country, he's a little bit rock and roll) never meshed. But the real draw was Mitchell's performance of "Both Sides Now." It was the album of the same name that brought her the first of many real raves from colleagues, critics, and fans alike, and she has reworked her song for a reinvention called -- duh -- "Both Sides Now," with a full orchestra behind her. Mitchell and producer Larry Klein kept the song's orchestral arrangement simple, and Mitchell, whose strength among strengths was always her liquid poetry, mines the depths of her experience to strip her lyrics raw. It was a typically bravura performance from an artist who ain't done yet. - -- Marie Elsie St. Léger :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 02:25:17 EDT From: WirlyPearl@aol.com Subject: Joni Tribute Concert Wow! What can I say. I went back and forth last Friday deciding whether to get tickets for this show and fly up to NY from Florida. In the afternoon I had decided, no, with airfare it will be too expensive, my husband Steve said he wouldn't be able to come with me, would have to impose on Steve's uncle in the city for a place to stay etc...but I was moody for the rest of the day after making the decision not to go. Some of you may remember how I hate to miss out on Joni events. Finally, Friday night I just had to throw caution to the wind and I ordered two tickets from ticketmaster on the internet. After listening to more info about the show Steve said he wanted to come and I was very happy. But on Monday with the stock market reeling (he's a broker) he again said he couldn't take off work and I was on my own. Unfortunatley I ended up making airline reservations only a couple of days before leaving and ended arriving in NY at almost midnight on Wed and having a 6:45 AM flight home on Friday. But it definitely was worth it. IT WAS WONDERFUL and I'm so happy I went. I ran into some old JMDL friends and met some new ones. I was happy to share my extra ticket with the very sweet and patient Debra Shea. Unfortunately the $85 tickets were in the second balcony. I was hoping they would be better. In this case the cheaper seats turned out to be the way to go. Who knew? I managed to sneak in my digital camera and a 200mm zoom camera. I ended up taking about 90 digital shots and more than half of them are pretty good considering how far away I was. The lighting on stage wasn't that bright so I'm not sure how the other pictures will come out. I'm so anxious for you guys to see them. Unfortunately, from where I was sitting I wasn't able to see where Joni was sitting. The performances were for the most part outstanding. My hands hurt from clapping so much even though I did spend a lot of time fumbling between the two cameras and my binoculars. I too was blown away by Cyndi Lauper's rendition of Carey. She did it slow and sexy with a real funky rhythm. A great surprise. I loved the harmonizing by Shawn Colvin and Mary Chapin Carpenter on Amelia. k d lang really belted. out Help Me. What a powerful voice. She picked out a strange outfit to wear...an oversized mens shirt with unbuttoned sleeves, long baggy pants and bare feet. I don't want to go into describing too much. I can't wait for you all to see it. Some wonderful reviews have been shared by listmembers already and I'm sure there'll be a lot in the media over the next couple of days. I think they did a great job with the photo montages and commentary. There were many shots I've never seen. They of course did focus more on the earlier work. Even in the montages there was very little of the more recent Joni. I think Joni's outfit for this was much better than what she wore on Letterman. She wore an above the ankle dress of vertical crinkly fabric, probably silk, with a matching longer coat. The sleeves were pushed up to her elbows. Through the binoculars I thought the dress was green but in the photos it's more of a purple. It perhaps had a bit of an irridescent quality where it looks one color in one direction and another color in the other. She wore round toed black suede shoes with a sling back and thick soles. She wore tights with them so it looks somewhat like boots from a distance. At her neck she wore a silver choker. She looked radiant. She did a beautiful, emotive version of BSN. I love that sway. She was all smiles at the end and seemed very happy. I went snap-happy during the song and just took a lot pictures as well as at the end where she's singing Circle Game with everyone and sharing hugs all around. I did get the hand holding between her, Larry and James. I'm not sure how to get the photos out to you, whether through the homepage (I did just contact Jim) or through email. I'm a bit out of synch time wise with the crazy flying schedule and almost no sleep at all yesterday or today. I think I'm starting to ramble so I'd better get to bed. I didn't get to talk to Joni this time but I did get back stage briefly while she was being interviewed and snapped a couple of profile photos before they made me leave. Patrick, what you said to her about Wally was perfect. I'm so glad I decided to go on this Excellent Adventure. I'm also very grateful that I am able to afford to do whacky thinks like this. Appreciative too of my generous husband, and work that has very flexible hours. Once again, many of the listmembers I'd never met said I look a lot like Joni. I love to hear that. Pearl ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #177 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?