From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #168 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Monday, April 3 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 168 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- american beauty NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] JC: Sneak preview [Kate Tarasenko ] re: NJC: April Fool's Day Around The Planet [Gerald McNamara ] Re: NJC: April Fool's Day Around The Planet [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: dave letterman and Joni [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Sneak preview [FMYFL@aol.com] Ginger Baker NJC ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Gay Identity (NJC) [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Gay Identity--NJC [Siresorrow@aol.com] memoirs? [Siqwomb@aol.com] NYC tickets: got 'em! [Emily Kirk Gray ] Re: HIGH FIDELITY ["ers" ] New & Improved jmdl.com ["ers" ] Re: New & Improved jmdl.com ["Gerald Notaro (LIB)" ] Solid Air (NJC) ["Paul Castle" ] Also new to the list [TanyerSCO@aol.com] new website [TanyerSCO@aol.com] May 23rd MSG [TanyerSCO@aol.com] Book Coupon Codes [mann@chicagonet.net] BOOKS $10 off $25 PLUS FREE SHIPPING (NJC) [mann@chicagonet.net] 2 Tickets for Joni Tribute for Sale [Jenny Goodspeed ] Re: NYC tickets: got 'em! ["Alison Einerson" ] Dave Letterman ["Donald Fluke" ] Re: Dave Letterman [Mark Domyancich ] Re: Dave Letterman/Today Show [SMEBD@aol.com] Re: dave letterman and Joni [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Word From TNT Tribute [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Re: Dave Letterman [Randy Remote ] RE: Book Coupon Codes ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: Sneak preview ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: A Strange Boy [Mike Friedman ] Re: also new to the list [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] This n' that [AsharaJM@aol.com] JMDL site - history? (now njc) [evian ] Re: memoirs? [jamiezoob@freeuk.com] Court and Spark [pat holden ] Clark Carlton, Secrets and Lies, NJC [Vince Lavieri ] Invitation to join Joniatpineknob [Bounced Message ] Re: Clark Carlton, Secrets and Lies, NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] all joni/all the time [RickieLee1@aol.com] Re: My return! NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] NY Times Heads-up! [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] I'm back (NJC) [Anne Sandstrom ] Check out eGroups : jonichicago [Wolfebite@aol.com] Re: Court and Spark [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Court and Spark ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: My return! NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Fwd: A Strange Boy (NJC) [CarltonCT@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 04:22:27 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: american beauty NJC i finally gave in and saw american beauty last night. WHAT A TERRIFIC FILM! and kevin, oh kevinkevinkevinkevinkevinkevinkevinkevinkevinkevinkevinkevinkevinkevinkevink evinkevin wallyk, pittying that poor virgin slut that couldn't score with kevin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 01:35:31 +0000 From: Kate Tarasenko Subject: JC: Sneak preview Hey, Les! The updated JMDL website (temp URL @ http://216.247.66.89/) is wonderful! Very steamlined but attractive -- excellent graphics! -- and even easier to navigate. Thanks for all your hard work once again! Kate in CO :^) NW: "Quiz Show" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 7:28:58 UTC From: Gerald McNamara Subject: re: NJC: April Fool's Day Around The Planet Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: >Do we need to explain April Fool's Day to the Kiwis and Australians and >Brits? Is it an North American thing, eh? Don't worry. We've heard all about April Fool's Day. And don't forget, we Aussies and Kiwis get to see Joni on Letterman the day before you do in the US ! -Gerald in Melbourne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 08:44:00 +0100 From: apso Subject: test ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 07:42:29 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC: April Fool's Day Around The Planet Gerald in Melbourne wrote: << Don't worry. We've heard all about April Fool's Day. And don't forget, we Aussies and Kiwis get to see Joni on Letterman the day before you do in the US ! >> Gerald, you may get to see Joni before we do, but Helen in NZ gets to see it before you do. Helen gets *everything* first. Since you know what April Fools Day is, you'll have to explain to me/us what Canberra Day (last month) and Anzac Day (this month) are for. I want to celebrate it too! Jimmy, already hating daylight savings time ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 07:52:18 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: dave letterman and Joni In a message dated 04/03/2000 1:41:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, IVPAUL42@aol.com writes: << Won't Letterman start later than usual, at least on the East Coast, because of the NCAA championship game? >> Paul is right. Letterman probably won't start until after midnight (GO GATORS!) so make sure you set your vcrs correctly or you might only tape Dave's other guest .....Brooke Shields. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:12:38 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Sneak preview Thanks for the sneak preview Les. The new JMDL site is much easier to get around and it looks GREAT. A million thank you's for all of your hard work. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 13:38:42 -0400 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Ginger Baker NJC Les les@jmdl.com wrote >NP: Ginger Baker Trio "I Lu Kron" Seeing this got me thinking about the first (and only) time I saw him live. I was sixteen at the time. The school rock band I played in were invited to play at a dance up in London and, amazingly, my mother let me go. When the teeny dance ended at about 10.30 and we'd packed away the gear, someone said "Let's go to The Flamingo in Wardour Street to see 'The Graham Bond Organization'. I can still vividly remember walking down the steps of this cellar club in the middle of Soho thinking "they'll never let me in" (I couldn't even get into X films as I looked about 12). I hid behind my fellow band members and without any trouble we were in - my mother would have died - this is what I had been looking for all my life - a dark smoke-filled bar full of old people grooving away to the loudest music I'd ever heard - Graham Bond, on hammond organ, singing like he had a mouth full of gravel, Jack Bruce thundering away on bass, Dick Heckstall-Smith screaming on sax and, on drums, this ginger-haired, sunken-cheeked guy with his eyes closed and his mouth wide open, playing hundred mile an hour solos all through each and every song - my first exposure to live R 'n' B and Jazz. I just stood and stared at Ginger with my mouth open too through the whole set. I had never seen anyone that good playing so loud and with such energy so close before. It was just the most earth-shattering pumping sound you can imagine and my little teeny ears rang for days after. PaulC PS. Looking for a biography on the net I found this at http://www.jackbruce.com/cream/ginger.htm. Talking about the late great modern jazz drummer Phil Seamen, Ginger says, "Phil heard me play in the All-Niter Club which used to be the Flamingo on Wardour Street. Tubby Hayes (the sax player) had apparently been in there and heard me and ran over to Ronnie Scott's Club and told Phil to come down and hear me. When I got off stage I was suddenly confronted by my hero." I wonder if it was the same night! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:12:05 EDT From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Gay Identity (NJC) In a message dated 4/1/00 9:27:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MGVal@aol.com writes: << Let them, (and all of us!), practice and preach the concept of "gay or straight: it's all good," and have that go beyond tolerance and beyond acceptance to where who you love and how you love is no more a matter in the housing/job/benefits/volunteer/religion market than which side of the roll you let the toilet paper hang. I know that is how God thinks, we should strive for the same thing. >> this entire post is wonderfully written and very solid. i can imagine your thinking has not come with out cost. you must have worked hard for a long time for this. thank you. pat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:18:21 EDT From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Gay Identity--NJC In a message dated 4/1/00 9:43:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk writes: << It took a long time to shake off the attitude that all non rat catchers were less than us and destined for Hell. >> eveybody knows, heaven wouldn't be any fun if there weren't tall pearly walls surrounding it that you could climb up on and look down into the fire and see all the bad "other ones" getting what they really deserve. it just wouldn't be worth it any other way. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:34:27 EDT From: Siqwomb@aol.com Subject: memoirs? Lovely List, Hello again, it's Womby. I think my posts are gaining frequency....I think I'm up to once a month! Well, I work at Barnes and Noble, as some of you know, and I was bored last night as it was "gettin' on time to close" and I did a Joni search to see if I could find something interesting that I didn't already have...so, all of a sudden I notice a book that had a pub. date of 5/99 (obviously incorrect, as the status field said: "Not Yet Published"), with the title, "Memoirs" and the author, Joni Mitchell! Does anyone know anything about this? The list price says 27.50, so I'm picturing a nice hardcover autobio with some really great pictures, maybe...I can't wait. I just hope this isn't false info. Anyone out there know about this???? Lurking, Womby (Laura the Womb Queen) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:36:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Emily Kirk Gray Subject: NYC tickets: got 'em! hi everyone! just got off the phone with the hideous ticketmaster machine (actually it was a person, and i would never bash on someone who has that horrific job, but...that company is insidious and completely takes advantage -- not only the RIDICULOUS add-on charges, but the horrible way they keep trying to sucker you into buying other services when they have you on the phone. yuck.) and $125.80 later (on a friend's credit card!) i have two tickets to see JM: Row A, seats 12/13, Section 300!!!! (i went for cheapest: the price range they quoted on the phone was $125/$75/$50.) i'm so ecstatic, you all!!!! i can't wait for may 22. and, this will be my FIRST time REALLY seeing her live (i was at the joni's jazz where she came on stage and sung some notes, but... this will be quite a change, i imagine...!!!) i want to say how sorry i am that i couldn't help out other people who needed tickets for the NYC show -- i am broker than broke as anyone who knows me will attest to (ah, the life of a graduate student) -- and have no credit card of my own so had to borrow a (very, very, VERY good) friend's to use. i wish everyone the best of luck getting these tickets and want to say COUNT ME IN for the post-concert JMDL hang-out (we are going to have one, right?)...and also count in my boyfriend tagging along (currently in the "you're my thrill" stage!), who is being an excellent sport about all this and saying things like "um, what's this 'list' all about?" oh, honey, just you wait! - -- emily NP: the silence of my room before i put on BSN and crank it, lie on my bed, and swoon! yippee! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:42:44 -0400 From: "ers" Subject: Re: HIGH FIDELITY Hi JulZie, You're right about my opinion about "High Fidelity". Fantabulous is right! I saw it on opening night! Nick Hornby was on NPR (always a good sign) hawking the story about a month ago. Who ever it was interviewing him (Terry Gross?) said she loved it, and it was funny, etc. Then I read an interview where Cusak talked about the book and he loved it. You know who was funny? Those two record store employee characters. He saw lots of funny detail! Like the fact that the bigger guy was wearing a _vintage_ jacket. How accurate and funny! All those ex-girlfriend portraits remind me of my ex-es, especially that Catherine-Zeta Jones character who talked all the time but never _said_ anything. And Cusak's character comes in like a jerk and goes out like a better man. And his finacee shows him that being a record store owner is one of his "Top Five" best possible, all-time, cool jobs. How tender! There was a lot of literary richness, that's for sure. And record lovers are so interesting, don't ya think? :) :) :) Sorry to bounce this! My job is being downsized in about 6 weeks and they are diverting most of our calls. My boss has already transferred out of town so it's pretty fast and loose around here. I'm taking a study break from learning about computer Networking this morning. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:00:49 -0400 From: "ers" Subject: New & Improved jmdl.com Wow, Les! The new JMDL even has a photo of a Javex bottle! How COOL!! I'm looking forward to contributing some research. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:09:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald Notaro (LIB)" Subject: Re: New & Improved jmdl.com Les, Re: Your April Fool's message. What are you trying to? Kill me before I hit 50? I can see the St. Petersburg Times now. "University Librarian found slumped over his computer. Investigators are covinced his death is connected to a man whose initals are JMDL." Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:13:04 EDT From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Re: Report on Nancy Wilson Show (VLJC) In a message dated 04/02/2000 6:16:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, zapuppy2@webtv.net writes: << Ahhh never mind, "sign" with the "g" and "n" reversed in order becomes "sing". A typo. Man, seems another case of points given all for naught. ;-) >> To think, I almost got points for a typo--where were you Penny when I was struggling in high school typing? :-D << Well Stephen, just in my brief research the other day, I came up with with the same 6 degree scenarios you did. As much as I would like to award points for all "close, but no cigars" cases that have been found so far, to award the points, it would make me a judge, a role I particularly dislike. I can't see how this little battle in the "NW search for a JM cover" isn't still a draw between you and Kakki. Maybe it's going to be a case of reporting *when* Nancy Wilson does her first Joni cover? >> Oh Penny, I don't know, being a judge could be fun. Think of the power. Of the gavel. And that nice robe. And the POWER. Oh I said that already. :-) You may be right, and the race between Kakki and myself will be to report on *when* Nancy Wilson does her first cover of a Joni song. Stephen (who is going to go and brush up on his typing skills) :-D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:21:41 -0400 From: "Barnicle, Kathryn" Subject: It's a Joni Day! Today I received my back order from Barnes & Noble for the Joni Mitchell Anthology songbook and I just purchased my ticket to An Evening with Joni for the Boston concert!! What a good day! Hey, other New England JMDLER's or those of you going to the Boston concert, where are you sitting? I was placed in Section 1 (I tried for section 2!) in row FF. Anyone near me? 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A while back, Bob was talking about Nick Drake's 'Pink Moon' being used for a US VW advert . I found this in an interview with John Martyn, a close friend of Nick's, who wrote a wonderful song for him called 'Solid Air'. "Nick was a beautiful man, but walking on solid air, helpless in this dirty business, an innocent abroad ... He was killed by the indecent, parasitic opportunism that pervades the music business." I was also interested to read in a Dirty Linen article that Joni was one of Nick's early influences. At http://www.dirtynelson.com/linen/feature/42drake.html "Nick could listen to a song once and then repeat it from memory. This gift allowed him to practice advanced folk-guitar techniques such as open tunings, double-pick rhythms, and two-finger rolls. John Renbourn, Bert Jansch, Davey Graham and Joni Mitchell were a few early influences. Around this time he was also developing his own singing style, a blend of twisted syllables and slurred consonants. That became the Nick Drake trademark: cool, distanced phrasing with just the right touch of timing. Some critics contend that he sounds as if he were singing on the moon. Ethereal and angelic, his voice seems to float over instrumentation." PaulC NP Solid Air by John Martyn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:16:36 EDT From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Also new to the list In a message dated 4/3/00 3:05:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << I discovered Joni as a freshman in college when a friend had "For the Roses.' Great album still. I must say that my interest in the albums after 'Hejira' diminished (my enthusiasm for everything pre- 'Hejira' has never dimmed) but this all changed after I bought Hits and Misses. >> Hi AJ! You sound a lot like me! I just joined the list about a month ago and am also a Sondheim fan! Where is that list? I also discovered Joni in college and it was not that long ago (sometimes I feel a little young and naive compared to the people on this list who grew up with Joni). My first album was Blue and I also am working on albums post-Hejira. You're not the only one! And I love BSN! Glad to connect. Welcome to the list! : ) Tanya ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:24:15 EDT From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: new website In a message dated 4/3/00 3:05:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << Here's the location of the new JMDL site for anyone interested in a preview: >> Les, The site looks absolutely fabulous! I have already taken a look at the new tab for Woman of Heart and Mind, which I've been dying for since I got my guitar a couple years ago. Thanks so much for your effort! : ) Tanya ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:29:42 EDT From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: May 23rd MSG Does anyone know the deal with tickets for the 23rd? Thanks for any help. : ) Tanya NP - Hedwig and the Angry Inch ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 10:44:39 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Book Coupon Codes Kakki, Thanks for the review of CSN's new book. Now I have to get it.........sounds good and want to see the pictures. 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They ship fast too) Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:00:13 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: BOOKS $10 off $25 PLUS FREE SHIPPING (NJC) Forgot to post the url for Varsity Books Go to: http://www.varsitybooks.com/ Get $10 off $25 PLUS free shipping!! Use code: GREEN Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:13:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jenny Goodspeed Subject: 2 Tickets for Joni Tribute for Sale I have 2 extra general admission tickets to the All Star Joni Tribute in NYC this Thursday. They are 25$ a piece (the price I paid, minus the fees). It sounds like an amazing night - James Taylor, Shawn Colvin, Elton John, etc, and Joni herself... If you're interested, please reply privately. Jenny jrgoodspeed@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 09:15:27 -0700 From: "susan+rick" Subject: Re: Sneak preview Hey Les Loving the new look of JMDL.com. Navigation is great and it loads nice and fast. The performance listing is going to be fascinating (at least for us Joni fans!). Rick > Joniphiles - new JMDL site for anyone interested in a preview: http://216.247.66.89/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 10:42:13 -0600 From: "Alison Einerson" Subject: Re: NYC tickets: got 'em! i also got my tickets this morning. had to wake up at 7:00am slc time (not an easy task for me) called ticketmaster and snagged my seats. i am flying my mother out with me, it will be the first time either of us has seen her live. i grew up listening to my mom playing joni on the guitar...i am very happy and excited to be able to share this with her. she has never been to nyc, (hasn't been to big city since LA 1969, but that's another story...) so this will be a great trip. looking forward to some pre- or post-concert plans with other nyc jmdl people. very excited and 177.00 poorer.... alison e. in slc - ---------- >From: Emily Kirk Gray >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: NYC tickets: got 'em! >Date: Mon, Apr 3, 2000, 7:36 AM > > >hi everyone! just got off the phone with the hideous ticketmaster >machine (actually it was a person, and i would never bash on >someone who has that horrific job, but...that company is >insidious and completely takes advantage -- not only the RIDICULOUS >add-on charges, but the horrible way they keep trying to sucker >you into buying other services when they have you on the phone. >yuck.) > >and $125.80 later (on a friend's credit card!) i have two tickets >to see JM: Row A, seats 12/13, Section 300!!!! (i went for cheapest: >the price range they quoted on the phone was $125/$75/$50.) > >i'm so ecstatic, you all!!!! i can't wait for may 22. and, this >will be my FIRST time REALLY seeing her live (i was at the >joni's jazz where she came on stage and sung some notes, but... >this will be quite a change, i imagine...!!!) > >i want to say how sorry i am that i couldn't help out other ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 12:40:43 -0400 From: "Donald Fluke" Subject: Dave Letterman According to my TV listing tonight's David Letterman show will start 1/2 hour later. Two VCR's programmed just in case the sand man comes. Looks like Joni will be in N.Y. all week. Mondays Dave Letterman and Thursdays Tribute. Love to hear of some Joni sightings. Don in Ft. Lauderdale waiting for Joni on 5/17 in W. Palm Beach ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:13:08 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Dave Letterman Has anyone heard about the Katie Kouric interview on The Today Show? I thought it was going to be this week. Mark, can't wait till tonight! NP-Song For Sharon - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 13:56:05 EDT From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Re: Dave Letterman/Today Show In a message dated 04/03/2000 1:15:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Harpua@revealed.net writes: << Has anyone heard about the Katie Kouric interview on The Today Show? I thought it was going to be this week. >> My understanding is that Joni is going to tape the segment this week. That could mean that it will be aired at a later date or later this week. I have not read an exact air date. Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:05:58 -0700 (PDT) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: dave letterman and Joni Jimmy writes: <> So are any of our "living in the right place at the right time" JMDLers going to try to get into Dave's show tonight? What's our Joan going to perform??? BSN?, Comes Love?, At Last? Stormy Weather? And the survey says........ My guess is BSN, but I hope it's At Last. JMDL Sports: As for the NCAA....gotta go with Jimmy's Gators.....especially after watching Saturday's games. But for some reason the championship game always turns out to be closer than one thinks it will be! Always fun to watch! ;-) Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:40:55 -0700 (PDT) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Word From TNT Tribute From the TNT website, I wrote last week asking a couple of questions about the tribute. They just sent me this reply: It will last 2 hours. Those performers confirmed so far are: Shawn Colvin, Elton John, Wynonna Judd, Chaka Khan, Diana Krall, k.d. Lang, Richard Thompson, and Cassandra Wilson. As for James Taylor we cannot confirm if he will be on the program or not. - -----Original Message----- My questions are 1) How long is the special planned to be? An hour, 90 minutes, 2 hours? 2) Will the program be re-broadcast? and 3) James Taylor was mentioned in the earliest announcements, but not in the latest ones I've seen, is he still slated to be on the tribute show? :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:19:10 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Dave Letterman That's good to know, since the musical guest is always during the last five or ten minutes of the show-sandwiched between at least as many commercials. I just saw the TV promo, short version "Brooke Shields and Joni Mitchell tonight on Dave" and they showed a picture of Joni, looking great. RR Donald Fluke wrote: > > According to my TV listing tonight's David Letterman show will start 1/2 > hour later. Two VCR's programmed just in case the sand man comes. > > Looks like Joni will be in N.Y. all week. Mondays Dave Letterman and > Thursdays Tribute. Love to hear of some Joni sightings. > > Don in Ft. Lauderdale waiting for Joni on 5/17 in W. Palm Beach ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:20:28 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Book Coupon Codes laura, you don't know how eagerly i was waiting for book coupons from you!!!! i have to buy a ton of textbooks this semester! thank you as always! you gerrilla coupon girl. wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:27:56 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Sneak preview what a kickass, site! les, much as though i loved the other one, this one has attitude! the guitar section is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!! wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:10:33 -0700 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Re: A Strange Boy Evil, you are a truly evil queen! :-) THANKS FOR A GREAT APRIL FOOL. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:31:32 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: also new to the list << I found this list when just doing random looking-around on the net and am looking forward to reading it.>> And writing to it, I hope! :~) Welcome A.J.! << Guess if I had to choose just one JM album for the proverbial desert island it might be 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns.' I'd ask the other list members their answer to this question but I fear newbie-ness--that it is a question that appears from every new subscriber. >> HOSL has sparked the most interesting dissections/discussions since I've been on board. We've had great discussions on Harry's House, JungleLine, Sweet Bird, Boho Dance. That still leaves some songs that haven't been totally analyzed yet! :~) HOSL is probably the most cryptic of Joni's records, although that would be a tough one, the whole canon is open to lots of interpretation...that must be why I'm still enthralled after 2+ years here! Bob NP: Fleetwood Mac "Gold Dust Woman" (Demo) Tre Cool!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:38:22 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: This n' that Just checking in to say I got tickets for the Boston show today!! YAY!!! The offer is still open for anyone that would like to stay over that night. Please let me know if you are interested. Pre and post show plans are underway, and the Boston contingency will keep you all posted as the date gets closer. My offer for the People Magazine with the 3 page spread of Joni has gone over like a lead balloon. Only 2 people have come forward so far. This offer is still open to anyone donating $20 or more to the JMDL fundraiser. I have about 4 Magazines left. Please e-mail me if you are interested in receiving one. Remember....you do not have to be going to the New England Labor Day Jonifest to donate towards this great cause! Les has put in mega hours, blood, sweat and tears towards having an incredible site for US!!!! Let's show him how much we appreciate all his hard work by donating (ANY amount at all!) towards the website. So far, we have raised about $200- a good start! Please send all checks (payable to Les Irvin) to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 Also, if you have any give away items for the Labor Day Jonifest, please send them to the same address. EVERYONE who donates towards this fundraiser will be eligible to receive a prize in our drawing! Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 15:48:36 -0600 From: evian Subject: JMDL site - history? (now njc) Les wrote: > I had planned this past week to quickly and quietly move the domain to it's > new server. Obviously, it hasn't gone quite as planned. Not only is the > new site not up yet, but the old one is down as well. > Well thank God! I tried to access the JMDL site twice at work last week to read the digest, and it wouldn't connect to the site. So, being the paranoid pete that I am, my immediate thought was "Oh my God, they've been tracking our internet usage and they have now completely blocked me from accessing the JMDL because I spend so much time there!" Hence, the rest of the week was spent looking really busy and like I was actually doing something! And let me tell ya... when you can't sneak a peak at the digest at work, the day really drags on! Happy Monday y'all, Evian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:26:09 z (BST) From: jamiezoob@freeuk.com Subject: Re: memoirs? It was meant to come out last year.... It details her 'middle period', apparently, her travels with Rolling Thunder and Hejira to Don Juan's and there abouts. I don't know where I got this in from but it think I read it ina magazine.... someone saw her looking at a hardcover book with her picture on it during dinner (cuz they happened to be at the same hotel). When anyone sees her at Mendel, please ask her about it! I'd like to know. Unless I win the lottery between now and May< I won't see her at all!! Big boo hoo Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 18:41:59 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: Court and Spark This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------F0AC9C1CA81AA83C0ACB229D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I originally wrote this to Jimmy in Florida and he encouraged me to share it with the list. This is the story of how I discovered Joni. oh happy day, mags - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- - --------------F0AC9C1CA81AA83C0ACB229D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <38E81B2F.9724B01@iprimus.ca> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 23:16:48 -0500 From: pat holden X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: court and spark Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the spring of 1974, I was working as a volunteer at a distress centre/suicide line in a small Canadian town. I had just graduated from high school and was still trying to decide what to do when I grew up. Yes, life certainly was so much simpler then. Or so it seemed. Not to sound too nostalgic, but those were the days when FM radio had a certain air of mystery and magic. There were few ads and garble to be found...and more often than not, there was plenty of real and good music which was a rare treat. It was into the wee hours of one such magical night that I sat alone in a little room in the back of a big old Anglican church where the office was located. Through hours of silence, I waited for calls to come in. I can still hear the creaking of the old wooden stairs which I had to climb to 'there'. The local radio station was on in the background and all of a sudden I heard Joni's voice for the very first time. Down To You (Court and Spark) was on and the lyrics stopped me in my tracks. I called the station to ask who it was, and the rest is history. For a while, I used to have warm little conversations with aforementioned local DJ about Joni and life and such. Those were the days. Joni and her music were to become somewhat of a lifeline for me in years to come and whenever I need to think, her music serves me well. Somehow, I feel less alone. Not to say that I'm lonely or anything, it's just this thing about hearing shared experience through her words ... or something. I think that if you are here, you know what I mean. Well, it is indeed the 'something' that keeps me tied to Joni and her wonderful songs, and as I said, Court and Spark still holds that special place inside my heart. all in all, I feel pretty lucky to have found a space where kindred spirits can share collective thoughts and dreams of Joni. thanks again for writing, mags. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- - --------------F0AC9C1CA81AA83C0ACB229D-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 18:01:03 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Clark Carlton, Secrets and Lies, NJC Friends, I read Clark Carlton's 1 April 2000 story and thought a bit about what he said, and reading between the lines, I thought I saw something... so I called mom and asked if it were so, and she said, yeah, my son, it is so, as you had thought, my son, And I said mom, can't I now stop living with my life so secretive, my always pretending to be something and someone else? And mom says yes, it is time to tell the truth. So I can affirm that all that Clark said was undoubtedly true; he did meet Joni as he said, and spend the weeks together, but there is something that Clark doesn't know, but the clue was there in the followup to Heijra, DJRD: who was Don Juan, and what did the reckless daughter do, and why is Joni in disguise on the cover and standing by a smaller figure, a little man so to speak, and why there are no Joni pictures on Mingus... you see, there was a souvenir for mom after Clark left. and the two sisters in Clark's story who were disturbed by mom's and Clark's lovemaking are the inspiration for Crazy Cries of Love, and I can finally say to Clark, at long last, now that his half of the story is out, I can finally stop the lies and the cover-ups, I can finally say to Clark (and did you wonder why i wanted so badly to see you, to see your play in Chicago last year?), what I can can at long last say after Clark has told his story about mom, is: "Daddy!" Vince (aka Roberto Clark Anderson) April Fools times 3 Day ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:57:14 +1000 From: john low Subject: My return! NJC I just wanted to let my friends in Joniland know that I'm back from my three weeks in New Zealand and have re-subscribed to the jmdl. It was a great break from work (which had been getting me down somewhat of late) and I felt like a 'free man in NZ'. And, there to welcome me back was an exciting Joni package from SC Bob M.! Thanks heaps Bob. You're a legend! I don't want to bore you with a travel diary but I just have to mention a few of the highlights: the absolutely awe inspiring view of evening settling over the Remarkables (mountains) and Lake Wakitipu from the house of a friend who has just moved to Queenstown; listening to Joni as we drove through Central Otago with its lakes, rolling hills and sheep (I felt like I was on my own 'hejira'); and the wild music of the ocean pounding the Catlin coastline at Kaka Point south of Dunedin where we spent a peaceful four days. I discovered that one of New Zealand's foremost poets, Hone Tuwhare, now lives at Kaka Point. I admire his writing and have several of his books and it was a great thrill when he kindly signed a copy of his latest collection of poems for me. The 'twitchers' (bird watchers) among you might be interested to know that we were also fortunate to observe some live examples of rare NZ birds. For example we saw a takehe in a protected breeding establishment at Lake Te Anau. This is a beautiful, flightless bird (blue, green plummage and a red beak) that now only exists in the wild in a tiny colony in the mountains behing Lake Te Anau. At Dunedin we also visited a protected colony of rare yellow-eyed penguins and saw the famous albatross colony at the entrance to the harbour. It is the only mainland breeding site of these magnificent birds in the world and watching them in flight was a sight I'll never forget. Well, it looks like I have managed to bore you all with my travels. Sorry! Anyway, my family and I had a wonderful time and we all have particular memories that we will hold for a long time. My three girls all kept detailed journals. While the family budget will probably have to be tightened for a while we are all pleased we decided to go. Finally, a very big 'thank-you' to all those who wished me 'bon voyage'. I really appreciated it. I know I've probably missed heaps while I've been away and I'm looking forward to catching up with things. I'm glad to be back! Cheers to all, John (in Sydney). __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 09:24:12 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Invitation to join Joniatpineknob From: Joniatpineknob Moderator Subject: Invitation to join Joniatpineknob Hello, This is an invitation to join the Joniatpineknob group, an email group that I moderate at eGroups, a free, easy-to-use email group service. By joining this group, you'll be able to easily send messages to fellow group members using just one email address. eGroups also makes it easy to store photos and files, coordinate events and more. Here's my introductory message for you: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A list has been set up for the Detroit (Pine Knob) concert. Check here for information on gatherings, extra tickets, etc. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ TO JOIN THIS GROUP, simply choose ONE of these 2 options: 1) REPLY to this email by clicking "reply" in your email program - -OR- 2) Go to our site at http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/Joniatpineknob and click the "JOIN" button If you do not wish to join the Joniatpineknob group, just ignore this invitation. Regards, Moderator, Joniatpineknob SPECIAL NOTE FROM eGroups: Because eGroups values your privacy, it is a violation of our service rules for moderators to add subscribers to a group against their wishes. If you feel this has happened, please notify us at abuse@egroups.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:13:27 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Clark Carlton, Secrets and Lies, NJC The Rev (or isn't it Bishop now? ) Vince wrote: << what I can can at long last say after Clark has told his story about mom, is: "Daddy!" Vince (aka Roberto Clark Anderson) >> That is an April fools Vince, I don't know how old Clark is, but that would have made Joni 10 years old when she had you ;~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:22:55 EDT From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: all joni/all the time greetings listers! what a horrible day! i am not much of a concert goer, hence unschooled in the trials and tribulations of the evil ticketmaster. let's not even go there. suffice it to say, i was on the phone to their permanently busy number at 10AM (actually 9:57AM - a bit eager, i admit...) and after 15 minutes of wanting to KILL every other list member who i just knew was responsible for the never ending busy signal, i decided to do what i should have done from the start and go online. by 10:15 the "best seats available" were in row Z as in ZEBRA??? i could not BELIEVE IT!!!!! this was ME!!! an AMEX GOLD CARD holder!!! (we are supposed to get some sort of break!) the outrage! how the hell am i supposed to toss my calvin's onstage from row Z????? how will joni and i make eye contact and share that magic moment it is our destiny to share? the one where she stops the concert to point and say: "you, with the white hair! backstage! NOW!!!" my day was ruined!!! but i got three tickets, section 2, in the afore mentioned row...i grumbled and snapped at people the rest of the day. i think my secretary is working on her letter of resignation as we speak... and then...and then i had THE most gratifying moment i have ever had as a parent, when my "all joni - all the time" programming on the cd player in my car finally paid off!! lindsay and i were just pulling into the driveway when the title track from the new cd came on. and lindsay sang it!!! to me!!! and she got the words right!!! we sat in the driveway and let the song play out. she, seeing that i was inordinately pleased, scrambled up into the front seat and i even let her but her dirty sneakers on the dash as she got herself comfy, and we started it over and sang the entire song together from beginning to end! oh my god! i thought my heart would burst! what a kid! (rebecca who?) call the estate lawyers! she's getting EVERYTHING!!! it was a wonderful end to my dreary day. suddenly row Z as in Zebra doesn't seem so bad at all! what an angel...she takes after me you know... ric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:29:26 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: My return! NJC Back from Kiwi-land John wrote: << Finally, a very big 'thank-you' to all those who wished me 'bon voyage'. I really appreciated it. I know I've probably missed heaps while I've been away and I'm looking forward to catching up with things. I'm glad to be back! >> A big warm welcome back John. It sounds like you had a wonderful time, although I'd be hesitant about visiting a place called Kaka Point (bad American humor). You haven't missed a whole lot unless you count Joni's surprise appearance in Sydney accompanied by half of the JMDL. We tried to call you! Ok, the last of the April foolery :~) Glad you're back! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:32:33 -0700 (PDT) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: NY Times Heads-up! Hey y'all! As per Michael Paz's post about the Warner Bros ad campaign, I picked up a copy of The New York Times Sunday paper today. Go to the Arts & Leisure section and you'll find a quarter page ad on page 2 for the tour, as Kakki described, that also ran in the LA Times. That ad, I expected, and was the sole reason for the purchase. But Page 9 is a full page b&w ad of the tribute concert with a wonderful full length pic of our Joan looking absolutely fabulous!!!! Black (?), mid-calf, off shoulder, form-fitting but elegant dress, looking relaxed and pleased. Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:32:49 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: I'm back (NJC) Hi everyone. I just got home about an hour ago. There were complications as a result of the surgery, so they kept me a few extra days (gory details below, for anyone curious). Thank you all for your love and support. Leg 2 of this journey is done. I couldn't have gotten this far without all your help. So, I'm going to go lie on the couch and get used to being in civilian clothes, having nothing beeping around me, and no one coming into my room every few mintues to check vital signs. But, since the computer was already on in the kitchen, I thought I just check in on my email... I'll send more mail tomorrow lots of love Anne THE GORY DETAILS Well, the surgery was more complicated than they expected. They found yet another tumor, as well as scattered smaller growths. They removed more than anticipated, including a lymph node. I was on a morphine drip for 2 days and seemed to be improving. Then they stopped the morphine on Thursday. By Thursday night, I was literally deathly ill (not fun, let me tell you). They ordered some tests Friday, put me back on I.V. and didn't allow me to eat or drink anything until today. There was a possibility of additional surgery, to repair what looked like an intestinal blockage, which, thank goodness, wasn't necessary. In spite of all this, I'm optimistic. I'll start chemo in about 2 weeks, once I heal a bit more from this surgery. The chemo should go on for about 4 months. Then, I'm hoping to be in remission. In the meantime, I'll be a couch potato. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:35:32 EDT From: Wolfebite@aol.com Subject: Check out eGroups : jonichicago Click here: eGroups : jonichicago or: http://www.egroups.com/group/jonichicago for the mailgroup for the chicago/rosemont concert on May 30th. regards doug stapleton ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:59:30 EDT From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Court and Spark In a message dated 4/3/00 6:44:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pholden@iprimus.ca writes: << Not to sound too nostalgic, but those were the days when FM radio had a certain air of mystery and magic. There were few ads and garble to be found...and more often than not, there was plenty of real and good music which was a rare treat. >> very nice mags. thanks. pat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:00:57 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Court and Spark > I originally wrote this to Jimmy in Florida and he > encouraged me to share it with the list. This is the > story of how I discovered Joni. > > oh happy day, > > mags > Hi mags, & welcome! Court & Spark was also the album that turned me on to Joni & I know exactly what you mean. I felt like the woman was reading my mind & soul. I eventually bought all the back catalogue and every album released since but C&S still holds a special place in my heart even though, oddly enough, I seldom listen to it. Maybe because I played it so many times when I first got it that every syllable & note is engraved on my brain cells now so I don't have to play it anymore to hear it! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:28:44 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: My return! NJC In a message dated 4/3/00 4:59:08 PM US Central Standard Time, johncb@start.com.au writes: << And, there to welcome me back was an exciting Joni package from SC Bob M.! Thanks heaps Bob. >> You're certainly welcome, John - nothing says "Welcome Home" like an exciting Joni package... And your trip sounds SOO awesome! I'd love to see some pics if you could scan some and send 'em along. And I'm glad you got to meet your poet and get an autograph. And it's been a BUSY time here in Joniland - lots of catching up to do! Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Jack & Neal" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:41:23 EDT From: CarltonCT@aol.com Subject: Fwd: A Strange Boy (NJC) - --part1_70.21d6043.261ab053_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/3/00 1:11:20 PM, mikefriedman@pacbell.net writes: << Evil, you are a truly evil queen! :-) THANKS FOR A GREAT APRIL FOOL. >> Six people called me a bastard, one called me a fucker and now I am being called -- clutch pearls -- an evil queen. Guilty! - - Clark (trying not to snicker) - --part1_70.21d6043.261ab053_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (rly-yh02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.34]) by air-yh03.mail.aol.com (v70.20) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:11:20 -0500 Received: from adsl-63-192-218-181.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-63-192-218-181.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.218.181]) by rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (v70.21) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:11:10 -0500 Received: from [209.228.3.135] by adsl-63-192-218-181.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 1730 via TCP with SMTP; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:11:11 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:10:33 -0700 Subject: Re: A Strange Boy From: Mike Friedman To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4d.287480e.26170c55@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Evil, you are a truly evil queen! :-) THANKS FOR A GREAT APRIL FOOL. - --part1_70.21d6043.261ab053_boundary-- ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #168 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?