From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #165 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Saturday, April 1 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 165 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: BSN [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Tribute tickets (NJC) ["Bryan Thomas" ] more on EJ Jonispeak [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Folk DJs react to BSN [Brian Gross ] mendel, dream, bsn [Kate ] Re: Gay Identity--NJC [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Folk DJs react to BSN [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: tribute selections [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Gay Identity--NJC [davidpaulmarine@webtv.net (David Marine)] Re: NJC [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Re: gayness, labels, etc. (NJC) ["Jerome Gonzales" ] Re: Creative Writing Project (SJC) ["Alan Lorimer" ] Joni covered by Nancy Wilson (VLJC) [SMEBD@aol.com] RE: Joni song on TV ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Gay Identity--NJC [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Joni covered by Nancy Wilson (VLJC) ["Kakki" ] Re: NJC ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Joni covered by Nancy Wilson (VLJC) [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Re: Joni covered by Nancy Wilson (VLJC) ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni covered by Nancy Wilson (VLJC) [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] More on Joni L.A. Tickets ["Kakki" ] Reprise Time Capsule Contest [leslie@torchsongs.com] Story of Three Loves [leslie@torchsongs.com] Diana Krall (SJC) [leslie@torchsongs.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:23:56 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: BSN In a message dated 3/31/00 11:06:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, heibert@home.com writes: << I'm just a bit puzzled why people would be writing in to discuss Kevin Spacey's sexuality and that kind of stuff (I thought Joni was the focus!). >> welcome. there are some on this list who prefer not to be involved with any information that does not pertain to joni mitchell and to that end, the list has provided an avenue to filter all non joni mitchell comments, which you can read about on the web page. many others, myself included, find joni mitchell fans to be interesting people and that fact leads to broad based discussions. me personally, i would never stay on the list if it were only ever about joni mitchell as i can't limit my thinking to one talented artist. finally, some of these folks have been on this list for years now and they are very familiar with each other and that creates an affect of discussion as well. pat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:20:31 -0500 From: "Bryan Thomas" Subject: Re: Tribute tickets (NJC) <> Yes, I was anxious too, and happily I got a ticket today at noon. A Ticketmaster outlet here in Albany. Center 2nd mezzanine, sec. 202, row A. Whatever that means. I wish they had a seating chart on their web site. http://www.mcstudios.com/5Events/OH.html Was anyone able to get on the floor? That's general admin, right? Are those the $100 tickets? (Mine were of the $85 variety.) The last I checked there were still seats available at the website www.ticketmaster.com if anyone's interested. Thanks to everyone who helped me out with advice in my hour of need on Thursday. Happily I have recovered from my panic attack. Peace, B. NP: The new Brian Blade. A promo copy. I'm diggin' it muchly. - --- http://www.bryanthomas.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:28:14 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: more on EJ Jonispeak Early this week in an interview Elton complained that longtime contributors to the profession had to receive their Grammies off camera so that Christine, Mandy, Tiffany, and Ricky could be seen for the 40th time that week on tv. Sounded very Joni to me. Jerry np: Harry Connick, Jr. - Autumn In New York (my favorite season there) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:41:42 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Folk DJs react to BSN - --- Steve wrote: > These comments were posted on the FOLKDJ list. I've kept > them anonymous (except one) because I havn't asked > permission to re-post them. > > DJ 5 said: > > Joni does jazz, and finishes off this jazzy set. I'm really liking > what little I've heard of the new Joni, no matter how much she may not be > folk. Hey, we all gotta grow sometimes. I've listened a few dozen times already and I'm really liking it too > DJ 1: > > Joni Mitchell/ Both Sides Now/ Reprise > I didn't much like this album big snip > Just give me a scotch and a cigarette, hon. You can pass me the scotch, but can I trade the cigarette in for a j? > DJ 4: (OK, it's obviously Gene Shay) > > In 1967 three days after she wrote , "Both Sides Now" she sang in on my > folk show on WHAT-FM (those call letters were changed to WWDB years later). > That's the first time the song was ever heard on the radio. But is BSN on one of the Second Fret tapes?? later, Brian np: Garnet Rogers, Speaking Softly in the Dark ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:45:15 -0700 From: Kate Subject: mendel, dream, bsn Kevin, I will be at the Mendel on June 30th, definitely. If we haven't made any prior plans to meet up, I'll be the blonde woman with a 12-year-old blonde boy using elbow crutches to walk and crash into the line-up of people waiting to meet Joni. Don't be shy! Dreamed I met Joni again last night and had a wonderful time with her. I love these dreams. She is always very warm and natural and easy to talk with, in them. My friend saw Joni interviewed lately on tv and said I would have been disappointed if I'd seen it because she looked very unhealthy ("terrible" was the word he used) and not only that, but she was "boring." HMPHHH!!! I don't THINK so!!!! I ran out and bought BSN as soon as it was released in Alberta and have been playing it repeatedly every day. In spite of not being familiar with a number of the songs, I sang along from the very beginning. And I found that -- and no, I am not an art connoisseur -- her cover painting is very full of life and light, that it has a living depth. Nice weekend, all, Kate of the North ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:21:48 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Gay Identity--NJC In a message dated 3/31/00 12:12:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, howard_scptv@interaccess.com writes: << It's not fair to the rest of us who try to live with honor and dignity--and truth--in our lives. >> From the National Catholic Update: "Social sin describes human-made structures when they offend human dignity by causing people to suffer oppression, exploitation, or marginalization. These include educational systems, housing, health care, tax structures, employment policies, and other similar things. Once established, social structures and customs seem to take on a life of their own. The social sin of racism, for example, has continued and still continues long after slavery was abolished. For example, there still remains obstacles to adequate education, housing, employment, etc. for African Americans. We learn to live in a world with these structures. We presume that the social customs which they hold in place are good, traditional customs. That is what makes social sin so difficult to recognize and to change. Yet the evil of sinful social structures abounds in all forms of discrimination, racism, and sexism. ... Why does social sin prevail? Largely because we fail to name social evils and seek to correct them. When we become aware of structural evils, we should not be paralyzed by the guilt of self-condemnation, but moved to conversion. Conversion from social sin involves, at one level, changing our own life-style in ways that will help reform society. We can not do everything to end the structures which support sexism, for example, but we can do some things, for instance, curbing our use of exclusive and insensitive language. We can influence others' attitudes through the ways we talk to and about one another. At another level, conversion from social sin involves examining existing regulations and practices, reforming those that offend human dignity. " in my own humble opinion, if Kevin Spacey is gay, and he is denying it, then he is hurting himself and other people. I do not think this because of the writing above. I think this because in my simple mind, Kevin Spacy's choice of profession as an actor puts him in the eye of society, and that placement will ultimately demand honesty. anything less will hurt everyone, kevin included. reality can not be permanently avoided. regarding the writing above, i do think it holds true and parallels what howard has been saying. pat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:26:40 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Folk DJs react to BSN In a message dated 3/31/00 1:53:25 PM US Central Standard Time, BrianGross@rocketmail.com writes: << In 1967 three days after she wrote , "Both Sides Now" she sang in on my > folk show on WHAT-FM (those call letters were changed to WWDB years later). > That's the first time the song was ever heard on the radio. But is BSN on one of the Second Fret tapes?? >> Brian, it might be on one of the Second Fret collections...I *know* it's on the "Looking Out For Love" collection that I have because the song is preceded by her comment about just having written it 3 days prior. To hear her say this always makes a lump in my throat, I mean, to hear her unveiling what would become a classic standard and not know it is just pretty awesome! Bob, off to SC's capital city for some adjudicating... NP: Buena Vista Social Club, "El Cuarto de Tula" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:28:36 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: tribute selections In a message dated 3/31/00 12:55:23 PM US Central Standard Time, catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca writes: << Who is Wynona? Is that Wynona Judd? Is she a country singer? If so,.... "You turn me on, I'm a radio" seems a tad too obvious, but then, one can't expect much innovation in today's music industry. >> Yes, it would be Wynonna Judd...she WILL be playing "Help Me" as it is featured on her new record. If that's not her selection, I'll be REEEEALLL surprised! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:35:57 -0800 (PST) From: davidpaulmarine@webtv.net (David Marine) Subject: Re: Gay Identity--NJC Howard -- I should have gone back and read all the posts on Spacey. If he is insisting that he is "heterosexual," than I agree that his stance is both absurd and damaging - -- mostly to him, but indeed to same-sex-loving (a nod to michael y. for the terminology) people everywhere. In his defense, though, I have to say that Hollywood is a tough town for an actor, closeted or not. My main point is that the "gay" identity is not necessarily one which homosexual men and women should be eager to embrace. I didn't create a new stereotype in my last post, I just described what anyone would glean from "Out," or "Genre," or most local gay rags. While it's true that it is a basic human desire to belong to a community, I'm not sure that the "gay" community ultimately offers its members enough. In the absence of a shared religion, cuisine, family life, etc., the "gay community" has found few points of commonality with which to define itself beyond sexuality. When the health crisis was raging there was a focus on brother/sisterhood and a beautiful compassion borne of the need to survive. But now that the crisis has abated (somewhat), from my perspective I see little in the "community" which would make me eager to align myself with it. In fact, in good conscience I can no longer identify myself as a "gay" man. Words mean what they come to mean, and my point is twofold: first, we need to be honest about what the community has (predominantly) become, and how it defines itself; second, we need to consider new words to express our vision of a healthier community and/or integrated subculture within the larger community. David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:41:29 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: NJC Don wrote: <> WOW! Thanks Don! Penny, an alumni of the Janet Reno school of beauty make-overs. ;-) PS Please forgive how slow I am. My list delivery is still just trickling in, in a haphazard fashion. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:01:08 -0800 From: "Jerome Gonzales" Subject: Re: gayness, labels, etc. (NJC) What a can of worms. Maybe Mr. Spacey is heterosexual. Regardless of all the heresay in the world, none of us on the list here (that I know of) has slept with him, dated him, or even kissed him. Hence, I'd just take what he says at face value. And if he is gay and closeted at his age, do you think that's an easy thing to do? Attacking him for not being considerate of the rest of us is not be equally inconsiderate of him. Live and live always seemed fair to me. Also, just as a sidenote, I don't think it's right to tell heterosexuals that they we don't expect them to understand what we go through as gay people. That shortchanges all of us. If they weren't able to understand what we go through, I'd have killed myself in high school-every single one of my friends was straight. And they all understood what I went through: pain, hurt, love, disappointment, discrimination, et. al. In short they knew what it was like to be alive. And they-to their credit-took it upon themselves to try and see what being gay was like. Do they know 100%? No. But I have to believe that they might someday. Otherwise I am a fool for putting my faith in them. If it's homophobia you look to battle, perhaps presenting positives about homosexuals are what you should put forth rather than attacks on people who's shoes we've never walked in. Because we haven't-gay or straight, none of us has ever been Kevin Spacey or Ricky Martin or Jodie Foster. (some of us may have been John Malkovich recently, but that's another discussion....) Live and let live. Jerome ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:12:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald Notaro (LIB)" Subject: Re: gayness, labels, etc. (NJC) On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Jerome Gonzales wrote: > who's shoes we've never walked in. Because we haven't-gay or straight, none > of us has ever been Kevin Spacey or Ricky Martin or Jodie Foster. (some of > us may have been John Malkovich recently, but that's another discussion....) Now wait a minute. I did have a thing going with a Rick Martin way back in...Oh, THAT Ricky Martin. Never mind. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:35:05 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Another DJ chimes in... DJ 6: To piggyback on Gene Shay's recent Joni post, she did title her second LP "Clouds," so she's sort of come full circle with the new CD entitled "Both Sides Now." Since Gene mentioned Dave Van Ronk being an influence on Joni, I still find his version of "Both Sides Now" to be the best ever recorded, although Joni's new rendition is almost on par with it. ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 07:39:51 +1000 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: Creative Writing Project (SJC) Regarding Don Rowe's essay on "Furry Sings The Blues" I just thought I'd better remind anyone who is thinking of contributing that you don't need to be able to write essay's like Don's excellent piece of writing. Just a short list of things to look for in a particular selection would be fine. Any contributions are gratefully accepted :-) Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:18:16 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Gay Identity--NJC Pat-that was very interesting and I do agree with it. However, it comes from the Catholic Church, just one of many that practice, in the name of God, homophobia. So I found that although I agreed with the piece, I was also astounded at the hypocrisy. (i do know this is not your stance-just commenting on the piece.) bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:34:49 EST From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Joni covered by Nancy Wilson (VLJC) Kakki: I decided to get to the bottom (hopefully) of the "Has Nancy Wilson--jazz Nancy--ever recorded a Joni song. It turns out that Nancy Wilson in performing at The Blue Note, a NYC jazz club, this weekend. I'm going tomorrow night and I'm going to try to get the answer from Ms. Wilson herself. You had better use your connection Kakki, or else I may just beat you to the punch :-) Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:22:37 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Joni song on TV phyliss, was that the not-tonight-i've-got-a-headache-darling migraine or just the regular kind? ;-) wally > Made my evening...till I got > a migraine...but that's another story... > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:52:05 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Gay Identity--NJC In a message dated 3/31/00 5:18:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk writes: << However, it comes from the Catholic Church, just one of many that practice, in the name of God, homophobia. So I found that although I agreed with the piece, I was also astounded at the hypocrisy. >> you got that exactly right. not only on homophobia was it hypocritical, but on sexism in general, vis a vie the role of women in society. but what is not surprising, within the catholic church, is a continuous voice of protest which is always ringing out loud crying for real truth and real understanding. having read the whole piece, my personal conclusion was the priest who wrote it went as far as he could go with out crossing the lines of indictment. but you know within the established church, they all know what he was saying, and voices like that have some influence. i no longer attend church as a catholic, by my wife's choice, not my own. but that article's existance makes me feel good about catholics. like they are not all what they want us to think they are. perhaps the institution operates like the army or navy or u.s. steel, or general motors....like a big aircraft carrier, which once the ice berg is seen, it may take a few hours for the boat to actually change course. or in the case of the church, perhaps a few centuries as opposed to hours. i will tell you one thing from personal experience. i lived for three years in a catholic abbey which housed about 25 priests. of the 25, 18 were open about their homosexuality. not that they were engaging. but that was their orientation. i believe as a statistic, catholic priests hold a very high ratio of homosexuality. and in reality, it is certainly higher than they admit as an institution. why not? it solves all those problems of augustine. 'so you're gay...no problem...go celibate, and it's all gone! right. pat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:51:57 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni covered by Nancy Wilson (VLJC) Excellent Stephen!! >It turns out that Nancy Wilson in performing at The Blue >Note, a NYC jazz club, this weekend. I'm going tomorrow >night and I'm going to try to get the answer from Ms. Wilson > herself. This is TOO cool! Please let us know the set list if you can since you've greatly resparked my/our interest in Ms. Wilson now. I hope some of the other NYC jmdlers can also attend the show. It should be phenomenal. >You had better use your connection Kakki, or else I may just >beat you to the punch :-) Go for it! I'll keep the connection in reserve in case we have any trouble getting ahold of the possible prized recording ;-) By the way, there is a treasure trove of her old vinyls for sale on eBay - albums that are not currently available on CD. But most of the sellers don't list the song tracks! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:00:30 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: more on EJ Jonispeak In a message dated 3/31/00 2:38:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, notaro@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu writes: << Elton.....Sounded very Joni to me. >> i think elton is very joni like indeed. and i really like elton for his honesty. pat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:35:22 EST From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Steve Forbert (NJC) Well, I violated my "once in/once out" workday policy and bopped over to the main office to catch the noontime performance of Steve Forbert. He was billed waaaaaaaaay back in the late 70's as the "next Bob Dylan" and had a top ten hit with "Romeo's Tune." Two really good releases: "Jackrabbit Slim" and "Little Stevie Orbit" and then label woes left him high and dry. He's back with a new release: "Evergreen Boy" or "Boy in the Evergreen" or "There's an Evergreen Stuck in My Underwear and I Can't Get It Out." At this point, I'm too damn cranky after a particularly poopy week to remember the exact title, but I do remember how much I enjoyed his performance. He's on a small Indie label, just a hard working kinda musical guy with intelligent lyrics and EIGHT harmonicas on stage to pick from. If you notice him in your area, I strongly suggest checking him out. He's worth the trip. Definitely Dylan-like, but with better enunciation. Looks a lot like Arlo Guthrie to boot. Thinking of what Joni has to say about today's music, I know from first hand experience from seeing hardworking musicians at my place of employment how much good music really is out there. Check it out if you get the chance! MG np: hums and bangs and this and that that I'm hearing for the first time ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:47:08 -0500 (EST) From: David Wright Subject: Re: Gay Identity (NJC) David Marine wrote: > What is it to say that you are "gay" in the > year 2000? That you like Gucci, Absolut, electrolysis and GHB? Howard M. replied: > To reduce the gay community to these terms is wrong. And myopic. If we > have economic clout, then why not use it--isn't this what has been > happening in general society forever? [snip] We live in a capitalist > society and to fault the gay community for getting a piece of the > corporate pie in sponsoring gay events--like a pride parade, or a Human > Rights Campaign Fund dinner, or a benefit for an AIDS/HIV hospice, or > the Gay Games--is not fair. Hello Howard, I have agreed with and enjoyed reading all your comments about Kevin Spacey. I think the above brings up issues of class within the gay community (and within the broader capitalist society). I'm not sure about your statement that if we have economic clout, we might as well use it -- or rather I think the operative word is *if*: there is class privilege within the gay community, as elsewhere. Who really has economic clout, and are the interests of affluent gays identical to those of poor and working-class gays, when "economic clout" means being marketed a lifestyle that not all (probably not even very many) of us can afford, if we wanted to buy anyway? (Pat Califia had an excellent column on this in Out magazine a few months ago. Incidentally, I saw that the company that owns The Advocate has now bought Out, too. Hmmmm.) Those ads are commodifying a certain lifestyle and, I think, implicitly commodifying "gayness" (or a certain construction of gay identity), too, and not for gay people's profit or benefit. We live in a capitalist society, but a lot of us think capitalism is one of the problems of our society, not one of the solutions. Assimilation into mainstream corporate culture shouldn't our highest aspiration. We should want our own pie, not a piece of theirs -- we don't just have to accept capitalism as a given. By all means, they (corporations/advertisers) can give "us" their money if they want, but I don't think we should confuse that, in and of itself, with progress. Take care, - --David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 18:38:15 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: NJC > Penny, an alumni of the Janet Reno school of beauty make-overs. ;-) > Attention all list members! The above statement is a big fat lie! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 18:41:19 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: Joni covered by Nancy Wilson (VLJC) <> Have you two tried All Music Guide allmusic.com? They have what looks like a pretty comprehensive list of who has covered Joni's songs. (Nancy Wilson didn't show up, but then neither did Diane Reeves cover of River.....think it may just be too new.) But you can also search Nancy Wilson's extensive page and pull up track listings there. I looked up the last few years, and didn't find anything. Covers of songs from BSN though. Sorry Kakki, I tried to help put you back to at least even. ;-) The underdog, ya know..... you don't get to meet Miss Wilson tomorrow night. ;-) Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:32:47 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni covered by Nancy Wilson (VLJC) > Have you two tried All Music Guide allmusic.com? Oh Penny, of course I have! But you see Stephen and I are on this quixotic chase at this point.... ;-) >They have what looks like a pretty comprehensive list of who >has covered Joni's songs. (Nancy Wilson didn't show up, but >then neither did Diane Reeves cover of River.....think it may >just be too new.) But you can also search Nancy Wilson's >extensive page and pull up track listings there. I looked up >the last few years, and didn't find anything. What's kept me from throwing in the towel was that those web pages did not list some of the obscure old NW vinyls I saw on eBay. >Covers of songs from BSN though. She has done several - maybe we'll just have to settle for a consolation "cover". >Sorry Kakki, I tried to help put you back to at least even. > ;-) The underdog, ya know..... you don't get to meet Miss Wilson tomorrow night. ;-) Thanks for helping! Well, if she confirms that there has been NJC in her career, maybe Stephen can inspire her to add some to her repetoire. And hey, as long as she is in NYC right now, maybe it's not to late to add her to the line-up over at the Hammersmith next week ;-D Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:52:15 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Re: "Gay" Identity -- NJC (was Kevin Spaceman) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:47:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lori Fye Sorry for the bounce thru ... Since the subject has (again) come up, I am taking this opportunity to invite everyone who can (speaking broadly) afford to do so to PLEASE make your physical presence known at the upcoming Millenium March on Washington on April 30. http://www.mmow.com There is strength in numbers. Lori in DC (who will be attending the 4/29 "Equality Rocks" concert as well) ===== "Progress is impossible without change, and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything." (George Bernard Shaw) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:53:16 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: re: tribute selections Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:52:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lori Fye Catherine (in Toronto) wrote: > Who is Wynona? Is that Wynona Judd? Is she a country > singer? If so,.... "You turn me on, I'm a radio" > seems a tad too obvious, but then, one can't expect > much innovation in today's music industry. Wynonna (Judd) is generally regarded as a country singer, but she does a terrific job of singing in other genres. Wynonna covered "Help Me" on her recently released CD, "New Day Dawning." Her version is fabulous, and the arrangement is eerily similar to the original. Lori in DC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:26:36 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: Joni covered by Nancy Wilson (VLJC) <> Fer sure, that's a great thought! Pressure's on Stephen.....now the world will be counting on you! ;-) (way to turn the tables Kakki. wink) And how about also, since Bry Bry even paid for his own ticket, having him do his smoke'n version of Black Crow! He'd wow the crowd too! Congrats to both of our JMDLers for scoring tribute tickets! Whoohoo! Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:40:01 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: More on Joni L.A. Tickets For those who did not get in on the priority tickets pre-sale for the L.A. show May 12th, the public ticket sale starts this Sunday, April 2nd at 10:00 a.m.through Ticketmaster. The phone numbers are (213) 365-6300, (213) 480-3232, (714) 703-2525, are (714) 740-2000. I just got around to reading this week's L.A. Weekly and they have the full page BSN and Greek concert ad prominently displayed smack dab in the music section. It show the BSN cover painting in black and white (looking like a charcoal drawing) and is accented and bordered in bright red with the names of the the show cities listed around the border. It jumps right out at you. Get those phones and credit cards ready! ;-) Kakki NP: Christine Collister - Shades of Scarlett Conquering ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:10:40 -0800 (PST) From: leslie@torchsongs.com Subject: Reprise Time Capsule Contest My husband Steve received a package today from Reprise Records. It seems he's one of ten winners in the lithograph giveaway contest! The question was, Which song of Joni's would you want to put in a time capsule?" Following is a copy of Steve's winning entry: I would choose Joni Mitchell's "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter" for the time capsule. This song speaks of the duality that both haunts and motivates us all, symbolized in the struggle between the earth bound serpent "fighting for blind desire" and the high-flying eagle "for clarity". Using these primordial symbols, the song seems animated by the ancient wisdom of the Native American - "the split tongue spirit talks, noble as a nickle chief" - who foresaw modern man's life-out-of-balance "here in good-Old-God-Save-America". Despite the stress and confusion, "There is danger and education in living out such a reckless life style" - we learn and grow as we go between the extremes. And realizing this brings us full circle to the higher wisdom of the split-tongue spirit, "The spirit talks in spectrums, He talks mother earth to father sky, Self-indulgence to self-denial, Man to woman, Scales to feathers, You and I", so that we see there is so much continuity and blend between these extremes. Like the paints on a master's canvas, or the colors in a Southwestern desert sky, the experience of life is beautiful and rich when taken altogether. What better message to put in a time capsule? Leslie Mixon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:14:16 -0800 (PST) From: leslie@torchsongs.com Subject: Story of Three Loves Do any of you remember an interview where Joni talked about the movie, "The Story of Three Loves?" Apparently, (as I recall) Joni saw this film when she was a young girl and was very inspired by the beautiful soundtrack music. Turner Classic Movies station ran the film two days ago at 7:15am (PST)(and since I'm home convalescing)and I watched it. I recorded almost all of it. It was a trilogy of love stories and Joni specifically mentioned the segment with Kirk Douglas. Has anyone else on the list seen this film? Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:24:50 -0800 (PST) From: leslie@torchsongs.com Subject: Diana Krall (SJC) I apologize if this message appeared in a previous digest - due to an email fluke, my recent messages have bounced. Monday night an old friend treated me to a Diana Krall concert here in Santa Cruz, CA. Like the Dylan concert here two weeks ago, the crowd was attentive and adoring. Diana was relaxed and was backed up by a crackerjack trio on upright bass (Ben Wolfe), guitar (Dan Faehnle) and drums (Shannon Powell from New Orleans - know him Paz?). At one point she asked the audience, "Does anyone know the name of the movie which featured both Peggy Lee and Ella Fitzgerald?" Complete silence for about a minute, and then I yelled out, "Pete Kelley's Blues." "Thank god there's another music nerd here tonight," she replied. "I'm such a nerd," she said, "That I've got that movie on Laserdisc!" Coincidentally, Regis and Kathie Lee had Diana on (it was a rerun) and she performed "East of the Sun, West of the Moon." After Diana's curtain call, she played, "Peel Me A Grape," and then over the house speakers came Joni's voice singing, "At Last." I was third in line at Bass for tickets to the Concord Pavilion - bought 3 - for myself, the husband and Mark from Seattle. We got orchestra pit, 7th row. Whoo Hoo! Leslie Healing very nicely thanks to recent live music from Dylan and Diana at our very own Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium! ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #165 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?