From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #156 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Monday, March 27 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 156 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: "Naval" Gazing ["Kakki" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #112 ["Claudia SanSoucie" ] Pic of Joni & some info [mann@chicagonet.net] William Shatner does Joni covers... [Steve Polifka ] Re: American Beauty won (NJC)!!!!!!!! [AngelinoCoyote@aol.com] bsn [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Joni in RollingStone.. [Catherine McKay ] Re: Covers update - quickie - now NJC [Catherine McKay ] Got my ticket for E-Center [Brian Gross ] Re: Congratulations Cook-Bookers! [Don Rowe ] my nightmare VLJC ["P. Henry" ] Joni on Speakeasy Excerpt [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] to anne (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] NYC tickets? [Emily Kirk Gray ] BSN Thank You's ["David" ] Burt Bacharach's Oscar Performance [GREYC1@aol.com] Morning Morgantown [TanyerSCO@aol.com] Re: Best of the Best IYHO [Catherine McKay ] Re: American Beauty won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NJC) [Dmascall@aol.com] Re: Burt Bacharach's Oscar Performance [Mike Friedman ] New Radicals (NJC) [Dmascall@aol.com] Re: magnolia (NJC) [KJHSF@aol.com] This Just In-Joni Ad Campaign ["Michael Paz" ] Re: Phil Collins sucks (NJC) [MDESTE1@aol.com] RE: Morning Morgantown [Sally Pont ] Re: American Beauty won (NJC)!!!!!!!! [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: magnolia (NJC) ["Reuben Bell" ] Re: This Just In-Joni Ad Campaign ["lpeakes" ] Re: BSN reviewed in Holland ["John van Tiel" ] Re: Pic of Joni & some info [Brian Gross ] Re: bsn [Don Rowe ] Steely Dan Tour (NJC) [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Re: magnolia (NJC) ["catman" ] Rosemont Tickets [Vince Lavieri ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:50:48 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: "Naval" Gazing Jim joked: >Now me, Jim: Me too! I thought it was naval-gazing, but maybe it WAS naval-gazing. I mean, woh, >isn't the 60s >SongWriter the EPITOME of Naval-gazing? Maybe she RECOGNIZED herself, the >naval-gazer, in the naval-gazing section. It's like staring into parallel mirrors in the fun house- >ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, Naval gazing - sounds like someone waiting for the fleet to come in ;-) I can see your point in a way although I prefer to consider it as a "getting to know you" kind of recognition of kindred spirits rather than mirrored Narcissism! The bios were light-hearted and often funny in their individuality. They made her laugh and endeared us to her a bit. Come on, if they were truly just navel gazing, she would have probably said "yuck" and not have even finished reading them. It's great that she was amused by them. (I do kind of like the "Joni and her mini-mes" idea, though ;-D Kakki NP: Joni - Jericho ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:02:36 -0500 From: "Claudia SanSoucie" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #112 Hi- any JMDL's going to Joni in DC. I would love to hook up with the group, since it is no fun to go alone. Is anybody getting tickets so I could sit with you? claud9 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:58:37 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Pic of Joni & some info http://www.livedaily.com/tickets/today.html Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:10:02 -0600 From: Steve Polifka Subject: William Shatner does Joni covers... Bob wrote: << Not currently planned on Volume 2, Maurice, but we'll hunt that sucker down and get it on one at some point! Does William Shatner do any Joni covers? :~) >> Jimmy Replied: I do think William Shatner cover "Judgement of the Moon and Stars" on one of his albums :......." or take a walk a park a bridge a tree a river dammit Spock! " Jimmy My 2 cents... Dont forget, Bones will have to interject at some point in the song, "He's dead, Jim..." Steve Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:25:58 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: santana, matthews, brahms...njc a few weeks ago the santana thread ran and fred mentioned that the melody from Love of My Life was actually a brahms melody. rolling stone from march 16th ran a big spread on santana and that particular song was addressed: most of the guest stars came with their own compositions - the one true song writing collaboration was with dave matthews. he and santana went into the studio together to write and record; Love of My Life was one of the results ( another song may turn up on the next dave matthews album.) the song had a particular genesis. when his father died two years ago, carlos found he couldn't listen to music. " i was numb" he says. and though he hadn't played the radio in years, one day while picking his son up from school, he turned on the car stereo. the first sound he heard was the melody from brahms' piano concerto #3. that was the music, somewhat disguised, he began playing to matthews. "he gave me some lyrics, a couple of lines," matthews says, "and i didn't know what to do. i think he wrote it about his father; i wrote it about my lover." pat np. stormy weather - jm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:27:59 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC - Where my entertainment dollars are going In a message dated 3/26/00 10:06:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, MGVal@aol.com writes: << Thus, instead of a May 13th trip to see Joni, I'm escorting two squealing and deliriously happy girls to gasp and marvel at 'N Sync. >> good choice. some day, the girls will tell your grand children about the time their grand mom gave up going to see her favorite singer just for them. ( but not for a long time from now, so you'll have to be patient)pat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 06:29:58 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: American Beauty won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > I'm so Happy "American Beauty" won best Picture.The Academy > certainly got it right his year! > Well to each his own. I thought AB was highly over-rated. For a supposedly original and cutting edge movie I thought it was much too slick & contrived. But then what do I know? Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:30:05 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: today's lyrics (NJC) A number of years ago, I went to the Bread and Roses Festival in Lawrence Massachusetts. There was a great lineup of performers, including Ferron, who hadn't been performing live for quite a while. Not only that, I was starting to know a number of performers, so I was starting to get a bit of a cocky attitude and felt very 'cool' when I got to the festival that day. Well, a storyteller named Sharon Kennedy enacted a piece she had written about a girl who worked in the mills. I was moved to tears. I went from cool to humble. Although I did see some of the performers, I spent a good portion of the rest of the day going to the museum, visiting outdoor exhibits, and talking to local historians. I had to learn more about the lives of these mill workers. And I had to write this song. Since tomorrow is my surgery, today's lyrics will be the last ones I'll post. Even if I had time tomorrow, I suspect my hands will be shaking too much to type! All of your kind thoughts and prayers have helped me so much. I've asked my sisters to send email on Wednesday to let you know how the surgery went. all my love, Anne ROSES IN THE SNOW I card the wool To make it clean Been at this mill since I was fourteen My father bought papers That state my age I've been working here since that day I am marching in the dark Soaked by fire hoses And I am singing in the snow For bread and roses This morning I walked To work in the snow Watched by the black mill windows They watch what we do So we watch what we say For the water we drink they take our pay We are marching in the dark Soaked by fire hoses And we are singing in the snow For bread and roses There's women that don't Speak the language like me There's women with five and six mouths to feed They work the long days They don't much complain Get up each day just to start in again We are marching in the dark Soaked by fire hoses And we are singing in the snow For bread and roses So wrapped up in shawls To ward off the cold I take my sign and step out the door I carry these words Like a candle of hope Like the flame you find in a single red rose I am marching in the dark Soaked by fire hoses And I am singing in the snow For bread and roses Roses in the snow... We are marching in the dark Soaked by fire hoses And we are singing in the snow For bread and roses Bring us Roses in the snow... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:38:20 EST From: AngelinoCoyote@aol.com Subject: Re: American Beauty won (NJC)!!!!!!!! In a message dated 3/26/00 11:23:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, rhollis@home.com writes: << Burt Bacharach with his great group of singers doing that great tribute to Oscar-winning songs; >> Coyote Responds: I agree with Roberto that the tribute was very, very cool. I sure was disapointed though by the selection singers, although I like each for the work they do outside this tribute. This was a walk down Memory Lane and it seemed that folks more closely associated with the songs (or original singers) selected should have been asked to perform. Imagine what the reaction would have been to Liza Minelli doing "Over The Rainbow" and Lorna Luft doing the other Garland song (can't remember the title). They both could have pulled that off. B.J. Thomas could have done "Raindrops." I was delighted Dionne Warwick (an all time favorite of mine) was there to do Alfie, especially when I was scared Burt was going to finish that great song. And what the hell did they do to poor Isaac? Laughed my butt off when Billy made the gag about it later. My group of fellow Oscar partiers and viewers agreed that the standing ovation was for the famous Burt/Dionne coupling and Isaac as opposed to the cover singers. I maintain, however, it was a great show - even though it was lllloooooonnnnnnggggg and was so happy that Hilary won - Annette has lots of time to win. No regrets, Coyote Casa Alegre Hollywood, California I'll be dancin' on a pony keg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:41:28 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: bsn i picked up bsn on saturday in fayetteville north carolina in a barnes and nobels for $13.99. i've only had two listens to it so far. i can say that my reaction to it is more favorable than ttt. but it is so different, and so low key. it makes me smile. i really liked Comes Love and I Wish I Were in Love Again. i really really liked the music for a case of you, but i felt the lyrics no longer fit with the song. the music out played the words, or out classed or out grew the words. just my gut reaction, and sorry for any offense. both sides now was beautiful too. and this did not at all mis match with the new music. these lyrics worked for me with this music. in fact, both sides now is really beautiful. pat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:42:00 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni in RollingStone.. - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/26/00 4:56:40 AM US Central > Standard Time, > MINGSDANCE@aol.com writes: > Joni > is very upbeat and funny, > and I was especially tickled that she says the New > Radicals record was the > best thing she'd heard in a while, because I had the > same reaction to that > record as well. Hey, that's good to hear. Ironically, my daugher wanted that CD because of the hit song off it ("You get what you give"(?)) She didn't like the rest of it - - maybe it was too sophisticated for her. She's just turned 13, so whaddya want? Anyone else think New Radicals sound kind of Todd Rungren-ish? ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:43:40 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Covers update - quickie - now NJC - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > Several of you are asking about the covers CD > set...it's about 1/2 weeks away > from being ready to be offered to everybody. > > I have sent the first 2 discs to the folks who > contributed the covers, both > to help *me* out logistically (15 contributors x 4 > cds each = a lot of CD's > sitting around my house!), [...] > Hang in there, y'all...I should be done this same > time next week, and then > let the true covers frenzy begin! :~) Bob, your wife must be a saint. I hope you remind her every day how wonderful she is! ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:06:01 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: American Beauty won (NJC)!!!!!!!! <> And man O man, Dionne sounded great! She was dead on with every note, and held the high ones with no sweat...she must've been gettin' some help from those psychic friends! :~) I enjoyed the show immensely. Even more so cuz I was at an Oscar party and got the most picks right so I won about 30 bucks! Whoo-Hoo! And the film montage that kicked the show off with Crystal in all the film clips was simply brilliant, and of course I loved the song parodies! :~) Bob NP: Son Volt, "Loose String" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:10:57 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: bsn <> Good point, pat. A lot of the artists who've covered BSN have also added the lush orchestration, but not as much so with 'A Case of You'. I wonder if she should have substituted 'River' as it lends itself more to the orchestration treatment. I'll bet River gets the treatment on the sequel anyway... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:27:09 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Got Milk? Hell no. Got tickets! Sweated like whore in church, but at the stroke of 10 my agent came on line for Gold American Express ticket line. I'm in ! Then all the questions. I was using me best friend's card and thought I had all the info written down. What is the special customer service number on the back of your card......sir? What is your e-mail address???? What is your business phone. Man did I scramble, lie, cheat. I felt like an episode of I love Lucy. But I did get them. Preferred seating!!!! 2 tickets!!!! Now what do I do for the rest of the day? Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:05:51 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Got tickets SF - --- KJHSF@aol.com wrote: > Greetings all-- > Just picked up tickets from bass at tower records in > SF. [...] There was a > line forming at 10;45, and > they tried and then aborted the lottery system > because of complaints. > Looking forward to meeting some of you that > weekend--any plans for a > gathering in the bay area? Something I just read in a letter to the editor in this weekend's Toronto Star - the lottery system is apparently the ticket sellers' way of *discouraging* scalpers. In the olden days (ah yes!), those who camped out a few days in advance were usually the die-hard fans who wanted to get good seats. These days, they're more likely to be homeless people paid by scalpers to hang around and buy up as many good tickets as they can which the scalpers will then re-sell. So, in one way, maybe it IS fair, but on the other hand - why can't people just play by the rules, dammit? ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:05:09 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Got my ticket for E-Center I'm sooooooooo excited at the moment, I can hardly keep my fingers on the keyboard and my butt on the chair I just got back from the Sony Blockbuster E-Center in Camden where tickets went on sale at 10AM for the final date of the BSN US Tour. There were only 4 people there in line when I got there (including a very occasional poster named John - Hi John!) My ticket is IN THE PIT IN THE SECOND ROW WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!! (that was my best Catgirl imitation) Those of you going to that show, contact me so we can co-ordinate our pre- and post-show activities. Later, Brian np: NPR ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:05:13 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Congratulations Cook-Bookers! Wow ... this is SO cool. That Joni would immediately wonder what sort of blissfully deranged souls would undertake such an effort, and flip to the bios section to find out is as endearing a gesture as I can think of. What a delight she is ... Don Rowe ===== "I want a stillness inside, and a quiet of mind, and to stop dreaming of the comfort of strangers." -- Julia Fordham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:12:57 -0800 From: "P. Henry" Subject: my nightmare VLJC hi all, recently someone mentioned nightmares so I thought I'd share mine... (I dreamed?:) there I was onlist trying to share what I could recall of when Joni taught me some songs way back and really trying to relate with some of the better musicians onlist who had worked out tabs for these songs that didn't work for me and so I decided to get a guitar to see if I could work thises things out with the help of my hands' memories. since none of my friends have one and this was like 3 months ago or more. *takes a breath* well, in my dream some people from the list were really helpful and I probably could/should have acquired my guitar through one of them but no, I decided to go online and order a guitar from musiciansfriend.com... in the meantime I have suddenly become way too busy to participate in the list as I once did and so, since no one is hearing from me, some of my good friends begin to really wonder if I'm just some big bag of hot air and bullshit as my silence continues... suddenly it dawns on me that I'm NOT dreaming and that this nightmare is real! now for the other side of the story...: (watch the dates) (NOTE: this is after several weeks of negotiating by email to get the order straight and passing off another sales person on to this 'troy', a manager...) On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 14:30:45 Service wrote: Hello, Thank you for your email. Our mailing address for orders is: Musicians Friend P.O. Box 4520 Medford, Oregon 97504 Thanks again, Customer Service At 07:03 PM 12/20/99 -0800, you wrote: hi again, my money order should be arriving there any day now with the shipping addresses (PO Box and street address) and it occurred to me that, since I work during the day, the shipper may want to call me to arrange delivery. my daytime phone # is (XXX) XXX-XXXX and my home address for weekends and evenings is (XXX) XXX-XXXX. again, thank you for all your help. pat On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 15:47:50 Service wrote: Pat, Thank you for your email. I apologize for the delay of response. Unfortunately, US Postal Service, is the only way we ship packages to Guam. Due to this, I am not sure that you will be contacted for delivery schedule. Again, I apologize for all the inconvenience this has caused you, and thank you for your patience and understanding. If you have other questions or comments please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:12:12 Service wrote: At 08:25 AM 1/13/00 -0800, you wrote: hi, it's me again... I sent my money order in a couple weeks ago and just wanted to check if it was received and my guitar sent out. could you verify this for me please? thanks, pat ON 1/10/00 Pat, Thank you for your email. I apologize for the delay of response. We have received and processed your order on 1/7/00. Unfortunately your order of the Sigma guitar is currently out of stock and we have 1/18/00 as the expected date of arrival. This date is tentative and is subject to change without notice from the manufacturer. As soon as we receive more shipment of the item, we will ship the item to you. Again, I apologize for all the inconveniences this has caused you, and thank you for your patience and understanding. If you have other questions or comments please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com At 02:19 AM 2/18/00 -0800, you wrote: hey troy! what's up with this guitar?!? we had this interaction a month ago and the tb1 was supposed to be in stock within days. do I have an order tracking #? an insurance #? has it been sent out? please help me. pat On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:06:14 Service wrote: Pat, Thank you for your email. Your order was shipped today, February 21, via US Postal Service. Normal delivery time for packages sent via this method is approximately 7-10 business days. You should receive the package soon. If you have other questions or comments please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com At 11:37 AM 2/22/00 -0800, you wrote: Troy, Thanks for letting me know. Per our previous negotiations and considering the unduly long delay in processing my order, due, I suppose, to someone's dropping the ball on this sale, I would expect the same supervisor whom you consulted with before to authoorize that I also be sent a refund check for $20.00 reflecting the *current* catalog price of $XXX.XX. That would only be fair seeing I've had to wait so long. Thank you, Pat On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:53:17 Service wrote: Pat, Thank you for your email. I apologize for your inconvenience. A refund check will be sent to you for $20.00 for your inconvenience. You should receive this check in approximately 7-10 business days. You should receive the guitar also about the same time as the check. Again, I apologize for your inconvenience, and thank you for your patience and understanding. If you need anything else, please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com At 07:58 AM 2/24/00 -0800, you wrote: thanks very much troy, blah blah blah blah. take care, pat On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:06:14 Service wrote: Pat, You are welcome! I do appreciate hearing from you! You should receive the guitar in the next few days. If you need anything else, please feel free to send us an email. Troy Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com At 08:06 AM 3/23/00 -0800, you wrote: troy, a month since I received this from you... still no guitar. what's going on? pat Fri, 24 Mar 00 04:01AM GST From: "Service" service@musiciansfriend.com Pat, Thank you for your email. I apologize for the delay of response, and for your inconvenience. I have replaced the missing order, and it will be shipped to you soon. Here is the new order number, P1025497. Again, I apologize for the inconvenience, and thank you for your patience and understanding. If you have other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com ...and would ya believe I STILL don't have a guitar?!? I coulda made one by now! the moral: I'm not full of it and beware of musiciansfriend.com! THIS is a nightmare! pat Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:16:16 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Joni on Speakeasy Excerpt I can't pull it up myself, but maybe some of you guys can....here's a link to get the interview audio (the video too?) It's about midpage. http://www.muchmoremusic.com/speakeasy/ The following are excerpts from Jana Lynne White's conversation with Joni Mitchell on Speakeasy:   Jana: A lot of people discovered jazz through Miles and Chet, Duke and Billie and Sarah, but really, honestly, my introduction to jazz was through that 1979 album of yours, "Mingus". And I wondered who awakened you to the many colours of jazz? To the colourful possibilities of jazz for your own expression?   Joni:Well, I grew up in a house that had very few records and that was typical of the time. My mother had Chopin and Brahms and she had several classical records, all Lunar Melodies: "Clair de Lune," "Moonlight Sonata," that kind of thing. And my dad was a trumpet player and a trumpet teacher, played in small town swing bands and he had Leroy Anderson and um, Harry James and that's about as jazzy as it got in the household. But I was always an artist in school and um, when I hit my teens and the beatnik thing was happening, the boys in the crowd that I danced with uh, went to New York and came back, if they could, with moustaches and striped t-shirts and berets and sandals and a lot of jazz records and one of them, Brian Anderson, wanted me to paint a mural of a jazz trio on his bedroom wall and he paid me in a jazz album. Um, also, I received a jazz album for doing a unicef christmas card for the school. Um, and I spent my own money to buy lambert, hendricks and ross, the hottest new sound in jazz, which was a jazz vocal album and that was kind of my beatles in high school. I knew every song on that record and admired it but at that time I was not a musician, i was a rock-n-roll dancer but that was what i kind of privately listened to. My active participation in music was, you know, Lindy Hop and going to public dances. Um, as my friends went onto college, and some of them prematurely -- one guy skipped a lotta grades and entered college at 15 and he used to take me to college dues and he was really a mischievous character, and anyway, there's a was a kind of partying that was happening then at the college level where people sat around and sang folk songs but nobody really played the guitar, it was considered déclassé. It was like country and western music which was low-class in the region that I grew up in, you know. So, um, my exposure to jazz was voluntary, and, you know, I was listening to folk music and jazz and rock-n-roll for three different reasons, you know, rock-n-roll for dancing, jazz for, "Oh my god, isn't that cool," you know, like, and, and um, folk music really for group song at parties. It was a different kind of partying where people would sit around, you know, instead of drinking beer and getting rowdy, they'd sit around and sing these songs and there was something exciting to me and the community in that. Do initially, I started to play guitar to be, because they needed an accompanist at these things.   Jana: Why that creative arc about love? Because I mean, let's face it, most songs are written about love but to think of it in that way. Did the idea come from you?   Joni: Yeah. Well, maybe, who knows, like -- I was working with my ex-husband, we were recently divorced for one thing, maybe that had something to do with it, um, and we had a few songs that were already on the list of we were gonna, you know, what we were gonna do: "Stormy Weather" because that's how I got introduced to singing with a big orchestra and got the appetite for it. I sang that one night with a 61 piece orchestra here in L.A. and I said, "Oh, I gotta do this again!" and Klein was musical director and Vince Mendosa was the conductor and arranger on that project. So, then my friend Paul Starr who heard me sing that night said, "You should do more of this" and brought me "You're My Thrill" and, um, "Comes Love To Do," while I was on the road with Dylan so, I worked up "Comes Love" and toured it and sang it on tour and it was my favourite part of the set in a way because i just had to stand there, i could put my guitar down. It was really fun and Dylan came up to me and said, you know, "Where'd you get that voice, that voice? you know, that's a different voice!"   Jana: You always look like you're having what almost borders on a mystical experience, but when you're really in the music, that is joy.   Joni: Oh, it is, you know, and I've been blessed, the calibre of players I've been fortunate enough to play with, even though it created a milieu which was demographically, uh, unslottable, you know. For all my whining and complaining, which because it's in me and it does appear here and there, you know, the things that were extraordinary was the collaboration with great musicians and um, and touching experiences with people who really got the music. The frustration with the business has been difficult and uh, you know, priorities of the exploiters, but that's the way art has always been. it's always been painful where art meets commerce.   Jana: Are there other Canadian attributes that have served you well? That you know about? Because we're always busy trying, struggling with this, like, "what is it to be a Canadian?"   Joni: Oh, that's uh -- I wish we would drop all of that, you know, and just be, you know. Canada's always struggling to define itself, um, when if it would just quit it, it would be you know, because it just creates a chip, you know, because it's comparison, you know. what is it that "Desiderata" says? You know, don't compare yourself to others lest you become vain and bitter, you know. Canadians constantly in their search for their identity comparing themselves to others and either coming up short or going, "We're better than them at something! We have one now!" Um, I heard something on the CBC years ago where the commentator was claiming Jack The Ripper as a Canadian and I thought, "oh, that's it." You know, like, so desperate are they for celebrity that they say, "He was a Canadian you know!"   Jana: In all the accolades that have been handed to you in the past few years, finally, for some of them, rock-n-roll hall of fame, billboard century award, juno, uh, the list goes on, do they mean something to you?   Joni: Frankly, most of them rang really hollow. Um, in that it felt to me that if you were correctly honoured, it would humble you, you know. Um, the instances when i felt truly honoured, there was a natural humility, whereas, if you're improperly honoured, you become arrogant, right. Most of them made me arrogant, so I, you know -- when people come up and genuinely love the work, it's a humbling experience for me, you know. But uh, a lot of the awards felt like a copycat crime, like it was felt that it was the right thing to do but they weren't quite sure why. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:27:49 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: to anne (NJC) dear anne, i wish you the best for tomorrow [and for ever]!!!! please keep the good vibes around you and let all the beauty you have created and will continue to create lift you up from your pain. i'll be holding your hand if it shakes too much. heart, humor and humility and LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE, wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:45:42 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Kirk Gray Subject: NYC tickets? hi everyone -- i think i saw on the JM site that tickets for the MSG 5/22 show go on sale on Monday, April 3. but then i couldn't find any more info on either the ticketmaster site or on the madison square garden site. anyone have more info? i'm so nervous about being able to grab tickets -- and jealous and happy for those of you who are already holding them for other shows! - -- emily ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:57:02 PST From: "David" Subject: BSN Thank You's Im sure this has already been discussed, but I don't remember it so I though i'd mention it just in case. Did everyone notice that Wally Breese was mention on the thank you's of BSN? I thought that was a very nice gesture that Wally would have really liked. Anyways as im probably wasting everyones time, as this has probably been discussed, Ill say good day sir. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:08:52 EST From: GREYC1@aol.com Subject: Burt Bacharach's Oscar Performance Is it just me or does anyone else think that Queen Latifah has an amazing voice for singing the "standards"? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:12:55 EST From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Morning Morgantown Does anyone know to which Morgantown Joni is referring? Thanks! Tanya ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:30:49 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Best of the Best IYHO - --- Marian wrote: > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:17:28 -0700 "Alison Einerson" > wrote: > > > Just wanted to say a big "Thanks" to everyone > > who threw out their ideas and opinions on > > what to play during my Joni special...I did > > it this morning and it went really well. > > What songs did you play? > > > I more than doubled my dollar goal I'd be curious to know which songs brought in the most pledges - did you happen to track that? ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:54:56 EST From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: Re: American Beauty won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NJC) Haven't seen American Beauty yet but I'm glad to see it win best movie. We must be thankful for small mercies. But what about Phil Collins for Tarzan instead of Aimee Mann's theme for Magnolia (whatever the music award is)? Humph........ yours curmudgeonly-ly David Mascall ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:14:43 -0800 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Re: Burt Bacharach's Oscar Performance Yes, I thought she was fantastic!!!! ============================================================= "I see the blue pools in the squinting sun and the hissing of summer lawns."--Joni Mitchell, 1975 Mike Friedman, San Francisco, CA, USA http://63.192.218.181 > From: GREYC1@aol.com > Reply-To: GREYC1@aol.com > Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:08:52 -0500 (EST) > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Burt Bacharach's Oscar Performance > > Is it just me or does anyone else think that Queen Latifah has an amazing > voice for > singing the "standards"? > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:51:28 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: magnolia (NJC) do you mean aimee LOST to phil collins?????????????????????????? were academy members born with a head? wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:16:07 EST From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: New Radicals (NJC) catrin_of_aragon wrote > Anyone else think New > Radicals sound kind of Todd Rungren-ish? That was the very first thing I thought of when I heard their single - it's all in the chord voicings (anyone who tries to busk Todd Rundgren songs on piano will know what I mean). My 12-year-old daughter (Catrin) was also mad about this song but didn't get as far as buying the album. I played her some Todd Rundgren to see if she would pick up on the similarity. However, after a while she just looked at me, told me that I listened to some very strange music, and that the man who sang was extremely strange anyway (she'd seen the picture on the cover of Todd Rundgren wearing a Viking hat which possibly influenced her). Oh well. Funnily enough, my younger brother, a real Todd Rundgren afficionado, couldn't hear any trace of Todd Rungren in the single at all (or so he said). I guess it's all in the ear of the beholder. David Mascall ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:20:39 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: magnolia (NJC) I, too, find it hard to believe that aimee was overlooked in order to honor Phil Collins. Furthermore, I've heard Aimee publicly disparage Phil Collins in particular when lamenting what the masses consider "Good Ballad Writing". Someday, Aimee will be properly appreciated. Ken in SF ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:16:04 -0600 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: This Just In-Joni Ad Campaign I just found out about this and I thought it would cheer some of you folks up about (the usually poor) advertising behind Joni's stuff. Make sure to visit the Tower Records store in your area and check out the online store. Tower Memo Tower Records is joining Warner Bros and TNT to salute Joni Mitchell. TNT has put together an extensive 1 Million Dolar ad campaign to support Joni. There will be a new Joni release 3/21 and a major TNT television program in conjunction with this campaign. Please read ALL of the advertising carefully and let's do everything possible to make this promotion a huge success. Here are the specifics... Product on Sale Joni Mitchell "Both Sides Now" $13.99 CD Sale Dates 3/21 - 4/24 Joni Mitchell "Both Sides Now" 4/5 - 4/25 Joni Mitchell Catalog Product Postioning 3/21 - 4/5 Joni Mitchel "Both Sides Now" (end rack 1A @ 2 facings) CD OVER & BINS (please create generic leader card for this) 4/5 - 4/24 Joni Mitchell New Release and catalog in Best Available Rack for Display Contest Display Contest 4/5-24 Criteria 1. Feature entire Joni catalog from WEA in Best Available Rack. 2. Enhance end rack with TNT Joni Mitchell poster and additional merch materials (18x24 posters and flats) provided by WEA sales reps. 3. The new release "Both Sides Now" must be the predominant title in the end rack. TNT must be incorporated into the display (their logo and TV show air dates). *ADVERTISING* Here is a list of the extensive advertising that Tower will receive for this promotion 4/4-16 Warner Brothers Studio Store outdoor board 4/3-28 Soho outdoor board 4/24 issue People Magazine (full page/4 color ad) 4/16 issue TV Guide 4/16 issue Sunday TV supplements 4/14 issue USA Today 4/2 NY Times (full page ad in Arts and Leisure) 4/16 NY Times Sunday Magazine 4/10 Cable Trades (full page 4/color) TBD Billboard/Daily Variety (full page spread) TBD Wild Postings TBD Tags in all Press Release and collateral materials 4/5- Radio Spots in NY, LA, Chicago, Philly, S.F., Boston, D.C., Atlanta TBD Varies daily and weekly print ad tags Online This is exciting! Tower Online will work in conjunction with TNT to hold an "Enhanced Television Viewing Event". What this means is that when the customer is watching the Joni Mitchell TV special, web surfers can explore the behind the scenes aspects of the show, get additional information on the artists performing and buy CDs from Tower online direct from this event. TV SHOW AIRDATE=SUNDAY, APRIL 16 9PM ET/PT ON TNT Merchandising Materials You will be receving P.O.P. kits from TNT directly to your stores. Have fun with the displays. Also, TNT is making T-shirts (see your WEA rep for details). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:27:13 EST From: Chilihead2@aol.com Subject: Need tickets for the CT show? Hi, The JMDL's Heather aka luvart@snet.net, has asked me to post this since her pc is down. She is offering to pick up tickets at the box office for JMDLers who need tickets to the May 27th show at the Oakdale in Wallingford, Connecticut . Tickets for that venue go on sale April 10th. The website is www.oakdale.com If you're interested please contact Heather at gallihe@ccsu.edu . - -Chili ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:18:02 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: American Beauty won (NJC)!!!!!!!! Angelino wonders ... And what the > hell did they do to poor > Isaac? Laughed my butt off when Billy made the gag > about it later. Well, for lack of a more technical explanation, it looked like the fog machine developed a mind of it's own ... I'd have paid real money for a shot from the backstage camera as the hands scuttled about frantically trying to shut the thing off ... agree Billy's quip later on was hysterical. Don Rowe ===== "I want a stillness inside, and a quiet of mind, and to stop dreaming of the comfort of strangers." -- Julia Fordham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:30:45 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Phil Collins sucks (NJC) I dont care what anybody says, for Tarzan and Phil Coillins to have won the award for best song is a preposterous joke. Frankly Im tired of the Oscars having become an incestuous massive publicity bash for the ultra rich industry to extort from the little industry people. While I admit to not being an all out movie buff even American Beauty wouldnt have won without its subject matter being what it was. Theres a lot of subjectivity obviously but the incestuousness is getting too obvious. Go ahead and flame me Im stronger than 10 pounds of onions on this opinion. Phil Collins with his nasally banal totally uninteresting voice and song repertoir sucks and he can go sit on his SUSUDIO and twirl. marcel deste ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:23:12 -0500 From: Sally Pont Subject: RE: Morning Morgantown I have never thought of this as a literal place, but rather as an idealization of morning and newness. "Morgen" is German for "morning," and I have always assumed Joni knew that and created the name for this magical place as a result. Joni invented other words the Siquomb and Sisotowbell; I think Joni's Morgantown as being similar to Sisotowbell Lane: a Joni world. Sally - -----Original Message----- From: TanyerSCO@aol.com [SMTP:TanyerSCO@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 12:13 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Morning Morgantown Does anyone know to which Morgantown Joni is referring? Thanks! Tanya ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:02:26 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: American Beauty won (NJC)!!!!!!!! Bob wrote: << I enjoyed the show immensely. Even more so cuz I was at an Oscar party and got the most picks right so I won about 30 bucks! Whoo-Hoo! >> Same here Bob, I went to an Oscar party and hadn't seen any of the nominated films. I guessed at all of the categories, and I had the most correct answers. I won an autograph photo of Don Knotts, and one of Burt Reynolds, plus 2 CD's an a puzzle. Not bad for someone who last went to the movies when "Pulp Fiction" was out. Got my Joni tickets today too!!! I'm just glad they went on sale this morning instead of a Saturday. Had no problems getting through to Ticketmaster. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:04:08 PST From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Re: magnolia (NJC) All in good time, my little pretty. Aimee is coming into her own. the fact that she performed and played at the Oscars last night is a pretty big deal in and of itself. Who cares if she won or not? Its a big step. Reuben > >I, too, find it hard to believe that aimee was overlooked in order to honor >Phil Collins. >Furthermore, I've heard Aimee publicly disparage Phil Collins in particular >when lamenting what the masses consider "Good Ballad Writing". Someday, >Aimee will be properly appreciated. >Ken in SF ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:28:37 -0500 From: "lpeakes" Subject: Re: This Just In-Joni Ad Campaign Thanks, MP - juicy post!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:32:06 +0200 From: "John van Tiel" Subject: Re: BSN reviewed in Holland Misspelled??? Dutch treat??? Thou art a jester, gadzooks!!! You need a good talking to by a Dutch uncle, my lad! And tell me all about that liberal university you have down there in SC. But seriously, if you want me to be your European subsidiary for the covers project, just let me know. I have the equipment, an I can always make the time. From one music slut to another. Vriendelijke groeten, John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:47:24 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Pic of Joni & some info Laura wrote: > http://www.livedaily.com/tickets/today.html Following one of the Joni links there brought me to a Herbie Hancock article from Feb 9, 2000 which ended: " Hancock’s video shoot at the Great Western Forum in Los Angeles was only a ripple in his continuing career. The 59-year-old pianist appears on Joni Mitchell's upcoming collection of standards, ''Both Sides Now'' (Warner) set for release March 21. Hancock's accompaniment on two tracks returns the favor for Mitchell's vocal work on 1998's ''Gershwin's World,'' which earned three Grammy awards. Hancock will return to the studio in the spring, according to his management, to begin work on his next project, an electric pop album set for release on Transparent Music, the imprint Hancock co-owns with manager/producer David Passick and former Verve president Chuck Mitchell. " Is *this* Chuck Mitchell *Joni's* Chuck Mitchell ??? Brian np: NPR ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:48:38 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: bsn > I'll bet River gets the treatment on the sequel > anyway... > > Bob > I don't know ... Joni's given my line-up for the third installment the "dour" label in her latest interview - -- and she's been knocking about the house singing something under her breath that sounds like 'Waltzing Harlequin' ... not sure what that's all about. I'll keep you posted. Larry Klein ===== "I want a stillness inside, and a quiet of mind, and to stop dreaming of the comfort of strangers." -- Julia Fordham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:06:13 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Steely Dan Tour (NJC) Please forgive if this has already been posted. My list delivery seems to be amiss.... Penny Steely Dan To Tour Behind First Studio Album In 20 Years With their first studio album in two decades a top-20 hit, jazzy rock band Steely Dan have announced an initial smattering of dates for a spring U.S. tour. Confirmed so far are June 13 and 14 shows at Universal Amphitheater in Los Angeles, according to a representative from the group's management office who asked not to be named. The outing is slated to kick off May 31 at a Pacific Northwest venue that has not been shored up. "We'll be finalizing that in the next few days," the management contact said. A full itinerary is expected to be posted on the group's Web site (www.steelydan.com) April 9. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:30:16 +0100 From: "catman" Subject: Re: magnolia (NJC) well I saw/heard her 'sing' and couldn't understadn a word. Never heard of her before either and won't be rushing out to buy anything! ( idon't care for Mr Collins either) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wally Kairuz" To: ; Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 7:51 PM Subject: magnolia (NJC) > do you mean aimee LOST to phil collins?????????????????????????? were > academy members born with a head? > wallyk > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:14:52 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Rosemont Tickets Laura, the wonderful one of Chicago, just emailed me that she got a ticket for me for the Rosemont concert, after quite a struggle with the ticket office (and being from Chicago, why am I not surprised at a box office with attitude?). So, everyone, I must pause in my day to offer thanks and praise to Laura, to whom I am greatly indebted! Laura, thank you, bless you, and for the first time time ever I will give the office JMDL salute: WhoooooooooooooooooHooooooooooooooooooooo! I've got a ticket to see Joni in Chicago and will sit with Laura and Jody! (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #156 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?