From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #155 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Monday, March 27 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 155 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Waking up to Joni ["John van Tiel" ] Re: Joni Covers ["Kakki" ] Put on your thinking caps (SJC) ["Alan Lorimer" ] BSN reviewed in Holland ["John van Tiel" ] Joni in RollingStone.. [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Goldie Hawn covers Joni [MP123A321@aol.com] tribute tickets ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Joni Covers Info [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Put on your thinking caps (SJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] covers project ["H.D. Motyl" ] Re: BSN reviewed in Holland [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Goldie Hawn covers Joni [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Audiophile News, NJC [philipf@tinet.ie] Re: Joni in RollingStone.. [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Covers update - quickie [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] today's lyrics (NJC) [Anne Sandstrom ] Tape Trades/UK Tour? ["Chris Boland" ] Got tickets SF [KJHSF@aol.com] got my tickets! [Seanapper@aol.com] The title of the first album [Brian Gross ] Joni/Judy spat [KJHSF@aol.com] NJC - Where my entertainment dollars are going [MGVal@aol.com] NJC bye for now [Linda Worster ] RE: NJC bye for now ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: NJC - Where my entertainment dollars are going ["Wally Kairuz" ] Tribute Ad on TNT [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] American Beauty won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: Congratulations Cook-Bookers! - Long - ****CAUTION: Nerd Humor**** ["Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Waking up to Joni Just something I'd like to share with you all... The List was on Dutch national radio this morning. In a two-hour special, a Dutch radio presenter paid tribute to Joni this morning. Both Sides Now (both versions), Blue, Amelia, Little Green, Corina Corina, The Magdalene Laundries and the orchestral version of A Case of You and bucketloads of praise, oohhs and ahhs and adjectives of admiration woke up our country. I had been approached by the presenter last week -- she had been referred to me by another list member from the Netherlands, Jan Glas. She asked me to be part of the project, select some of the music and tell something about Joni and the Joni Internet community during the live broadcast. The first thing I wanted to do was to mention Wally and everything he did to bring -- and keep -- all of us together. And how his monumental site helped to bring Kilauren and Joni back together again. Being live on national radio made me quite nervous. Trying to explain why something touches your heart and keeps touching your heart is not something that comes easily, particularly not over the phone at 8.30 in the morning while your words come back to you over the speakers of the radio. But Hanneke Kappen, the presenter and apparently a big fan of Joni herself, gave me all the space and was very encouraging. She wanted to know more about the list and was impressed by the fact that it generated friendships on the basis of 'wavelength'. In the show, I was asked how I was introduced to Joni's music. So I told her about how I was approached by a 19-year-old girl in 1976 -- I was teaching a minor course in popmusic at Nijmegen university at the time -- who asked me if I could do an analysis of a Joni Mitchell album. At the time, Joni was a fringe artist to me, so I listened to Court and Spark and Hejira, which had just been released. It hit me like a thunderbolt. Both the music and the girl. I fell deeply in love (with both -- I was 22 at the time, that's how those things go). Hejira has been my favourite album ever since. This is what I said on the radio. Two minutes after the show, the phone rang. She is 42 now, a mother of two. She, too, remembered. She had been listening to the radio with her children ("Little Green", mummy, why did this lady call her daughter "Green"?). It must have been very strange to be making breakfast for the kids and suddenly hear a well-known voice on the radio telling anecdotes in which you play a part... I'm still a bit over the moon. It's wonderful to share things you love with people who know and feel what you mean [no, Bob from SC, this is not a promise that I will actively contribute to the list more often; I feel perfectly happy in lurkdom and with the regular/occasional off-list exchanges; I prefer listening/reading and enjoying everything that is going on on this list from the sideline]. So I thought I'd share this with you all... From the coast of Holland John van Tiel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:23:49 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni Covers Michael wrote: > Albums containing Joni covers: > Stanton Brothers Band Stanton Brothers Band Thanks Michael - we have more work cut out for us. This is actually the Staton Brothers Band and for fun I got the old vinyl from eBay a couple weeks ago. They apparently were a band out of San Francisco in the early 70s and they sound very much like CSN/America wannabes with a touch of one of my favorite old groups from Hawaii, Cecilio and Kapono. They do a cover of "Night in the City" and it is....ah..um...novel ;-) During the first part I thought I had the phono on the wrong speed - it is very Chipmunks-sounding. It slows to regular speed and there are some nice harmonies and guitars until they veer way off-key in falsetto. A Stills-like vocal comes in to start to save it a bit until it veers off once again into a sort of early 60s Pop sound and tempo and then back to CSN guitar dueling and ending with off-key wailing. Oh dear, oh dear. Well, I'm sure the completists will want this one. ;-D Kakki NP: Staton Bros. - Night in the City {{cringe}} ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 20:50:24 +1000 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Put on your thinking caps (SJC) It's time for us JMDL members to put on our thinking caps! Following constructive input from four JMDL members, I've had a complete rethink on the approach I'm taking for my "Computer Assisted Learning" assignment. What I want to do is develop the *first* part of a package to teach people to write creatively. The first part of being able to write creatively is obviously to be able to appreciate and draw meaning from other people's creative writing. What I am going to do is present a selection of Joni's writing in HTML form. People will be given additional information guiding them in what they can get out of reading this material and will be asked to write an essay on a chosen selection. What I want from fellow JMDL members is to pick a track (or tracks) from the following list (or any alternative track you may prefer) and send me something to say what you get out of it, or what people should be looking to get out of it from any sort of a writing / poetry / whatever point of view. All views and ideas will be most welcome. You'll all get the opportunity to play with this package at a later date! Here are the (provisional) tracks STAS Cactus Tree, Marcie Clouds Tin Angel, I don't know where I stand LOTC The Priest, For Free Blue Blue, River FTR Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire, For The Roses C&S Peoples Parties, The Same Situation HOSL Don't Interrupt the Sorrow, Shadows and Light Herija Amelia, Furry Sings the Blues Plus from the later albums: Slouching Towards Bethlehem, Turbulent Indigo The idea is that someone who has never heard of Joni Mitchell, could be presented with the lyrics and some pointers which would help them get as much inspiration and meaning as possible from the writing itself. Could you imagine people's reactions after reading through some of this stuff then actually hearing it! Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 12:23:10 +0200 From: "John van Tiel" Subject: BSN reviewed in Holland Since I was writing to this list this morning, I thought that I might as well include the review I co-wrote for HEAVEN, a music magazine in Holland and Belgium (for which I am a reviewer; I also wrote a long cover article on the music of Joni for the Christmas issue -- Les has a copy in his archives). Because of the high regard for Joni's music among the editors, we were 'fighting' who would write the review. In the end, we decided to have the album reviewed by two people, Jo Didderen (a professional musician and arranger) and I. For those interested in doing a Sunday afternoon crash course in Dutch, I have included both the original review and the translated version. The review will appear in the April issue. The dikes are still hole-less and I've already seen the first tulips. John van Tiel The Review: Joni Mitchell Both Sides Now Reprise 9362-47620-2 Doorleefde diepgang in briljante arrangementen Ook in de eerste recensies in Amerika van Both Sides Now verscheen weer het onontkoombare stempel: de nieuwe cd van 'folkzangeres' en 'singer-songwriter ' Joni Mitchell. Hoe mis kun je de plank slaan? Both Sides Now heeft he-le-maal niets met folk of singer-songwriter te maken. Both Sides Now is een cd van een vrouw van bijna 60 met een doorleefde, door rook aangetaste stem die tegen het decor van een intens spelend groot orkest zingt. Ingetogen, introvert bijna. Both Sides Now is de eerste Joni Mitchell-cd die niet louter uit eigen werk bestaat (met uitzondering van Twisted op Court and Spark uit 1974). La Mitchell koestert de jazz al jaren. Eind jaren zeventig toerde ze met mensen als Pat Metheny en Jaco Pastorius. In 1979 verscheen Mingus, waarop ze stukken van deze basvirtuoos van teksten had voorzien (waarna de voltallige jazz- en poppers over haar heen viel, volkomen ten onrechte). Tijdens concerten in 1998 en 1999 zong ze regelmatig standards. Haar bloedstollend mooie uitvoeringen van Billy Holidays The Man I Love en Summertime op Herbie Hancocks cd Gershwin's World waren al een duidelijke indicatie hoezeer Ms Mitchell zich thuisvoelt in het genre. En dan hebben we het niet eens over de briljante uitvoering van Trouble Man op Kyle Eastwoods From There to Here. Both Sides Now is een logische ontwikkeling in de muzikale carrière van Mitchell. Het is een zorgvuldig samengestelde collectie van 12 stukken (twee van haarzelf) over de cyclus van de liefde, van de eerste vlinders in de buik in You're My Thrill, via de beginnende twijfels in You've Changed tot de berustende terugblik na de zoveelste teleurstelling in het titelstuk. De arrangementen zijn van Vince Mendoza. Deze in Hilversum woonachtige Amerikaan was al bekend in de fusion-wereld, en verwierf enige faam met Zappa-eske electronische muziek. Op Both Sides Now wordt goed duidelijk hoe veelzijdig de man is; Mahler- en Debussy-achtige intro's, Gil Evans-achtige klankkleuren, Nelson Riddle-swing - Mendoza beheerst elk aspect van de arrangeerkunst. Mede hierdoor klinkt de muziek nergens goedkoop sentimenteel. Luister maar eens naar A Case of You, een van de hoogtepunten op het album. Ook de bijdragen van gaststerren als Herbie Hancock, Mark Isham en Wayne Shorter zijn subtiel en staan volledig in dienst van het grote geheel. En dan Joni Mitchell zelf. Wie haar werk kent, weet dat haar timing en frasering altijd al meer met jazz dan met pop te maken hebben gehad. En dat is te horen op Both Sides Now. Het album is qua diepgang, niveau en concept vergelijkbaar met Sinatra's klassiekers Sings For Only The Lonely en A Man Alone. Both Sides Now is een monumentaal hoogtepunt in de toch al zo rijke discografie van een van de iconen van de popmuziek. En zoals altijd bij Mitchell is dit weer een album dat pas na enkele keren draaien zijn rijkdom langzaam prijsgeeft. Ja, wij zijn enthousiast. ****1/2 John van Tiel, Jo Didderen Joni Mitchell Both Sides Now Reprise 9362-47620-2 Emotional Depth in Brilliant Arrangements Again, the first reviews in America of Both Sides Now inevitably pigeon-holed the album as the new cd of 'folksinger' and 'singer-songwriter' , Joni Mitchell. How much can one be off the mark? Both Sides Now has ab-so-lute-ly nothing to do with folk or singer-songwriter. Both Sides Now is a cd of a woman going on 60 with an emotionally intense voice, affected by years of smoking, who sings to the decor of a deeply involved large orchestra. Subdued, almost introvert. Both Sides Now is first Joni Mitchell album that does not consist solely of her own compositions (she included Twisted on Court and Spark in 1974). La Mitchell has treasured jazz for many years already. In the late seventies, she toured with people like Pat Metheny and Jaco Pastorius. In 1979, Mingus appeared, on which she put words to some of the compositions of this bass virtuoso (after which the entire jazz and pop press trashed her, wrongly). She also sang standards during her concerts in 1998 and 1999. Her blood-curdlingly beautiful renditions of Billy Holiday's The Man I Love and Summertime on Herbie Hancock's cd Gershwin's World were already clear indications of how much Ms Mitchell feels at home in this genre. And we have not even mentioned her brilliant rendition of Trouble Man on Kyle Eastwood's From There to Here. Both Sides Now is a logical development in the musical career of Mitchell. It is a carefully selected collection of 12 musical ieces (she wrote two of them herself) dealing with the cycle of love - from the first butterflies in the stomach in You're My Thrill, via the doubts creeping in in You've Changed to the acquiescent retrospective after the umptieth disillusion in the title song. The arrangements are by Vince Mendoza. This American - who lives our country, in Hilversum -already made a name in the fusion world and gained some fame with his Zappaesque electronic music. Both Sides Now reveals how multi-talented the man is: Mahler and Debussy style intros, Gil Evans style sound colouring, Nelson Riddle swing - Mendoza is a master of every aspect of the art of arranging. The music never sounds cheap or sentimental, also because of his involvement. Listen to A Case of You, one of the highlights of the album. The contributions of guest artists such as Herbie Hancock, Mark Isham and Wayne Shorter are subtle and integral elements of the project as a whole. And then Joni Mitchell herself. Anyone who is familiar with her work knows that her timing and phrasing have always been more jazzy than pop. This becomes very obvious on Both Sides Now. With regard to emotional depth, intensity and concept, the album ranks alongside Sinatra classics like Sings For Only The Lonely and A Man Alone. Both Sides Now is a monumental highlight in the already very rich discography of one of the icons of popular music. And once again, as always with Mitchell, she has made an album that does not reveal the depth and wealth of its contents until it has been played over and over again. Yes, we are excited. ****1/2 John van Tiel, Jo Didderen (Note: a 4.5 stars out of 5 rating is very good; 5 stars are extremely rare) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 05:53:50 EST From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: Joni in RollingStone.. I just received the April 13th issue of RollingStone and Joni is on page 48 in the Q&A section great session about being ashamed to be part of today's music business. She may be a bitch, but she is a good bitch. Yeah Joni...You go girl! Mingus in stitches ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 05:54:09 EST From: MP123A321@aol.com Subject: Goldie Hawn covers Joni Does anyone have a tape / vinyl of Goldie Hawn covering Joni's - Carey? I just saw this 45 for auction in the U.K. Too much post office hassle for me to bid.....Goldie Hawn-Carey/I'll Be Your Baby Tonight - UK 7" from 1972 A-side Joni Mitchell song B-side Bob Dylan song on Reprise K14211... Please contact me if can help. Is this gonna be on that Joni covers tree? (Bob?)Thanks , Maurice ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:37:08 -0500 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: tribute tickets Bernard Bern44105@aol.com asked >Does anyone know if tickets will be sold to the April NYC >taping of the tribute concert. If so, anyone plan on attending? Tanya TanyerSCO@aol.com wrote: > I'm dying to know too! I'm planning on going and I don't care what it costs. > I tried finding info on-line at the Hammerstein Ballroom's site, but > couldn't find anything. How can we get this info? I emailed Lee Blumer, Events Manager for the Hammerstein Ballroom a couple of days ago and just had this reply: >Dear Paul: Tix will be on sale through ticketmaster. >You could try to get the tickets through WEA in the UK, >but I have a feeling that might be hard. You can check >www.ticketmaster.com and see what happens. >Good luck. Lee PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 08:12:52 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Covers Info In a message dated 3/25/00 11:11:38 PM US Central Standard Time, michaelpaz@worldnet.att.net writes: << I found this info at allmusic.com. I thought you would find it interesting (especially Bob the king of the music sluts) >> Excellent, Michael! Of course there's also a good reference @jm.com, but this is a good pocket version I can take with me on my music hunts. Even though I'll be completing Volume 2 in a week or so, I intend to continue this as an active project, (but I'll be releasing them ONE disc at a time! :~D) So, to those of you who weren't able to contribute this time 'round, there's always next time...and you can scam yourself a free Joni Covers CD in the process! Bob NP: XTC, "Hold Me My Daddy" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:21:29 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Put on your thinking caps (SJC) In a message dated 3/26/00 3:56:46 AM US Central Standard Time, alorimer@tassie.net.au writes: << What I want from fellow JMDL members is to pick a track (or tracks) from the following list (or any alternative track you may prefer) and send me something to say what you get out of it, or what people should be looking to get out of it from any sort of a writing / poetry / whatever point of view. >> Alan, this is a very creative & challenging project. What I would be looking for is that in several of the songs listed, the visual images that Joni creates are so strong. Songs like Marcie, Furry, Amelia conjure up some specific images, yet the amazing thing is that she can also translate a specific situation into a universal truth. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 10:26:59 -0600 From: "H.D. Motyl" Subject: covers project This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------A32D4F09410D6A7342B6C3A7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, I'm sure I've missed how to do this but I would like to get a copy of the covers CDS. How do I do that? How much, to whom, where? Thanks. Howard M. NP: BBC Newshour/NPR - --------------A32D4F09410D6A7342B6C3A7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="howard_scptv.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for H.D. 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Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:27:53 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Goldie Hawn covers Joni In a message dated 3/26/00 4:54:09 AM US Central Standard Time, MP123A321 writes: << Is this gonna be on that Joni covers tree? (Bob?)Thanks , Maurice >> Not currently planned on Volume 2, Maurice, but we'll hunt that sucker down and get it on one at some point! Does William Shatner do any Joni covers? :~) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 17:30:14 +0100 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: Audiophile News, NJC Don wrote: > Not so -- classical symphonies and some musical > soundtracks employ "index marks" -- audio-transparent > digital signposts to mark off sections without > silences. > Thanks for the correction Don. What I was probably thinking of was a cd I have of The Beatles Sgt Pepper which performs unpredictably when I skip tracks in some players. It usually jitters for a moment on the first note of the new track. When they put Abbey Road on cd I notice they inserted a one second gap between the continuous tracks, and although the silences are annoying musically, it seems to allow time for the head to get properly on track before the music kicks in. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:39:18 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in RollingStone.. In a message dated 3/26/00 4:56:40 AM US Central Standard Time, MINGSDANCE@aol.com writes: << great session about being ashamed to be part of today's music business. >> But this is only a small portion of the Q&A...Joni is very upbeat and funny, and I was especially tickled that she says the New Radicals record was the best thing she'd heard in a while, because I had the same reaction to that record as well. I'm sure that Joni's opinion of the current music scene could be adjusted if she was exposed to the good stuff out there as opposed to the *popular* stuff, Santana notwithstanding... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:44:32 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers update - quickie Several of you are asking about the covers CD set...it's about 1/2 weeks away from being ready to be offered to everybody. I have sent the first 2 discs to the folks who contributed the covers, both to help *me* out logistically (15 contributors x 4 cds each = a lot of CD's sitting around my house!), and also so they could go ahead and start enjoying the project. Hang in there, y'all...I should be done this same time next week, and then let the true covers frenzy begin! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:48:14 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: today's lyrics (NJC) SAD NOMAD You rose up like signal smoke On a day of second chances With your head all full of hope And a hand that held no answers Still you stumble round With your Mona Lisa grin Still bound to this town Knowing that you'll never quite fit in Still you stand your ground Couples pass in private pairs You with your shadow of doubt And those unblinking cameras stare At you all alone in this crowd You're just the latest currency Not quite as good as gold In the buy and sell of celebrity You barter with your sould The world will embrace then exile you You never quite unpack your bags They'll revere then revile you So you wander a sad nomad Just how deeply do you hide Behind that furrowed brow The distant ones that you admired Will recognize you now Do you long for anonymity Do you fear you'll somehow die The day someone asks 'who is she' And a shrug is the reply The world will embrace then exile you You never quite unpack your bags They'll revere then revile you So you wander a sad nomad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:09:36 +0100 From: "Chris Boland" Subject: Tape Trades/UK Tour? Hi people - this is my first post to the list - hope you can all help. I was wondering if there are rumours.news of the touring reaching UK? And also - if anyone has any Joni live shows to trade - please get in touch. Many Thanks. Chris chris@silverandmaple.freeserve.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 12:30:36 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Goldie Hawn covers Joni (NJC) Bob wrote: << Not currently planned on Volume 2, Maurice, but we'll hunt that sucker down and get it on one at some point! Does William Shatner do any Joni covers? :~) >> I do think William Shatner cover "Judgement of the Moon and Stars" on one of his albums :......." or take a walk a park a bridge a tree a river dammit Spock! " Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 12:47:39 -0600 From: "Mark T. Domyancich" Subject: Re: Goldie Hawn covers Joni I think so! I kind of remember him covering BSN (along with about 300+ more people). Mark NP-Nick Drake, Hazy Jane I At 11:27 AM -0500 3/26/00, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >Not currently planned on Volume 2, Maurice, but we'll hunt that sucker down >and get it on one at some point! Does William Shatner do any Joni covers? :~) - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 15:40:49 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Got tickets SF Greetings all-- Just picked up tickets from bass at tower records in SF. I was third in line and went for "best available" which was at that point, row N. Wish it was closer, but that feeling of disappointment is tempered by the excitement of seeing joni live for my first time. There was a line forming at 10;45, and they tried and then aborted the lottery system because of complaints. Looking forward to meeting some of you that weekend--any plans for a gathering in the bay area? Ken in SF ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 16:55:35 EST From: Seanapper@aol.com Subject: got my tickets! Yeehaw! This morning I was stuck in a traffic jam with a couple of friends (along with everyone else in Seattle) trying to find a good vantage point to see the Kingdome get imploded (which never should have happened, but that's another whole story in itself...it was fun to watch, though). Anyway, we started talking about Joni, and decided on the spot that it would be worth it to fly down to San Francisco and see the concert. Tickets went on sale at noon, so I called their 1-800 number (thank God for toll-free numbers...it was quite a wait). I was surprised that we not only got tickets, but good seats, too! I'm thrilled! And I'm looking forward to getting to meet some of the other JMDLers there. Neil in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 14:01:10 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: The title of the first album Well, I finally heard Joni herself say, on a January 4, 1968 Club 47 Cambridge MA show broadcast on MIT radio, that she was titling her first album, to be released that year, "Song To A Seagull" So there ;-) (Thanks Mark D) Later, Brian (who *will* be at the E Center box office at 10AM tomorrow) np: Joni doing "The Way It Is" ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 17:17:35 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Joni/Judy spat I am trying to answer a question my room-mate asked me and I'm not sure what the story is, but here goes; Judy Collins was supposed to pick up Joni and drive to the Newport Jazz Festival, but she left her waiting at the curb, basically. I remember reading that Joni still holds a grudge about this or something like that. Does anyone know the story? My room-mate asked this because he was wondering if it was before or after Judy recorded BSN and had a hit with it. Thanks. Ken in SF ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:03:21 EST From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: NJC - Where my entertainment dollars are going I equivocated for days about getting tickets to see Joni in SF. Drove everyone nuts with my budget balancing. Gave in and went to buy tickets this morning. Coincidentally, the group 'N Sync also had ticket sales that day and as I made inch by inch progress towards the BASS counter, my ten year old begged and pleaded to see the show. "But I only have enough money for Joni!" I whined. "But you've seen her lots of times before!" she countered. And, 55 minutes later, my daughter was still going strong and promising all sorts of delightful exchanges: perpetual dish washing, laundry sorting and window washing. What to do? What to do? Once she threw in helping me with my night class math homework, I gave in. Thus, instead of a May 13th trip to see Joni, I'm escorting two squealing and deliriously happy girls to gasp and marvel at 'N Sync. Here's hoping that my karma bank is operating in the black for the rest of the year. MG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:06:52 -0500 From: Linda Worster Subject: NJC bye for now Greetings All I'm going to be away for a month or so. No laptop (yet)... So Tuesday, I'll be signing off for a while. Don't have too much fun without me! love- Linda ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 01:14:05 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: NJC bye for now bye bye linda. take care and come back to us soon! wallyk > Greetings All > I'm going to be away for a month or so. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 01:16:16 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: NJC - Where my entertainment dollars are going oh, MG! how sad! on the other hand, good for MC! wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 01:28:29 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: the scholarly enema JC realizing that i hadn't looked at the jm companion yet, i started reading some of the articles today. my question is, have you folks read the review by perry meisel entitled "how joni mitchell fails" [page 79]?!?!?!? somebody must have given that guy anti joni mitchell enema that morning!!!! don't miss his "freudian" analysis of "mama's nylon's underneath my cowgirl jeans". it's a hoot!!!!!!!!! wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:32:02 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Tribute Ad on TNT Hi Y'all! Did anyone else just catch the commercial on TNT promoting Joni's Tribute Concert? ;-) I saw it for the first time 9:30 PM Pacific. Yippie, this is going to be great. ;-) Penny PS Is anyone else finding their list delivery is really delayed (like several hours) and out of sequence? :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:38:30 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: American Beauty won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so Happy "American Beauty" won best Picture.The Academy certainly got it right his year! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:54:45 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Congratulations Cook-Bookers! - Long - ****CAUTION: Nerd Humor**** I hate to begin a post with a quote but I'm digesting tonight. I'm "digesting", get it? The noun "Digest" converted into a verb, becomes "digesting"! How funny! This is humor only a computer technician could love. Or an accountant- Hi, Mary Grace! :) Anyway, what did Jerry Notaro originally feel about the biographies in the JMDL cookbook? "Nobody will read those I said. Forget it. Now Joni specifically talks about that one section." Then Ken Slarty chimed, "Well don't feel [too] bad . There are many who shared your enthusiasm for this project including myself, I hate to admit. I'm not a big fan of cook books and I thought the bio section was naval gazing. We were wrong! We were wrong! We were wrong!" Now me, Jim: Me too! I thought it was naval-gazing, but maybe it WAS naval-gazing. I mean, woh, isn't the 60s SongWriter the EPITOME of Naval-gazing? Maybe she RECOGNIZED herself, the naval-gazer, in the naval-gazing section. It's like staring into parallel mirrors in the fun house- ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, mini-me, mini-me,mini-me,mini-me,mini-me,mini-me, mini-memini-memini-memini- meminimeminimeminime~ I've been exercising so you'll all have to excuse my enthusiasm just now- Is exercising for an hour an antidote for depression? It sure is an antidote for SLEEPING, unfortunately. :) All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati np: Wings: "Wildlife" for the first time. I read in Rolling Stone (in 1970-something , youngsters) that it su**ed so I never bought it until this year, used. Ha! That'll show him that McCartney fans don't want 'Wings', we want McCartney solo projects! BTW, we miss you, Linda. Only... not your singing. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:15:48 -0800 From: Robert Holliston Subject: Re: American Beauty won (NJC)!!!!!!!! Well, I was happy, too. In fact, I loved this year's Oscars because movies haven't meant a lot to me since the early 90s when I discovered both John Sayles and Pedro Almodovar. Tonight I was reminded how potent and beautiful an influence movies can be. Jane Fonda introducing a tribute to that wonderful Polish director Wajda (can't spell the first name); Burt Bacharach with his great group of singers doing that great tribute to Oscar-winning songs; and creepy but appealing old Jack Nicholson saluting his friend Warren Beatty. I thought Michael Caine's speech was the epitome of class: he basically turned it over to his fellow nominees. Inevitably, there was the In Memoriam section, and I wept to think that the world no longer has Sylvia Sidney in it - yes, I know she was very old when she died, but both stage and screen will miss her incomparable presence and her perfection of technique. Personally, I'd have given Best Supporting Actor to that 11-year-old genius Haley Joel Osment. And, as much as I love Kevin Spacey and everything he does, this year's best performance by an actor was given by Russell Crowe. I can't tell you how loudly we cheered when Hilary Swank got her richly deserved Oscar! The only thing better was her incredibly gracious acceptance speech. One last thing: I live here, so I can say this (Catherine and Evian might disagree): Blame Canada was the best song, period! this is everything you never wanted to know about my Oscar thoughts; I bid you all a very good night ;-) Roberto Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > I'm so Happy "American Beauty" won best Picture.The Academy > certainly got it right his year! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:28:15 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: American Beauty won (NJC)!!!!!!!! Andrej Wajda, i think. wallyk >that wonderful Polish director Wajda (can't spell the first name) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:43:21 +1000 From: Sue Nielsen Subject: A review of BSN from Brisbane, Australia Thought you might like to read a review of BSN from Brisbane, Australia A lovely photo of Ms Mitchell appeared in the Weekend edition of the Brisbane Courier Mail (page 11) next to the by line "Singing your pain". The reviewer, Noel Mingel wrote "At 56, Joni Mitchell isn't the singer she once was. She's even better than that. The voice is a little smokier now and she doesn't soar and swoop to the notes like she did on Big Yellow Taxi or You Turn Me On, I'm a Radio. But what she does do is go right to the heart of the matter on "oth Sides Now" ... unlike George Michael's elegantly crafted but sterile "Songs of the 20th Century" Mitchell isn't merely going over old ground but rather, finding fresh nuances. The arrangements and the backing of the London Symphony Orchestra are sublime and the material is the pick of the bunch in that most fertile field, the American torch son. But what really lifts this to the top of the class is the voice, lingering and curling like cigar smoke in some late-night piano bar for lost souls and unwise lovers. Give these same orchestrations to the current crop of pop divaas and they would probably sing them to death, all technical precision and no emotional connection. Whe Joni sings, you feel hearts breaking and remember what it was like when it happened to you." And so on. It makes you wonder whether some of the reviewers are listening to a different cut of the CD. Or perhaps critics like the one on the New Musical Express site can't cope with her awesome talent. I haven't heard BSN yet - I hear of copies in various Brisbane shops and run round to them, but each time they're gone. I'm waiting for my order to arrive. Anticipation increases enjoyment, they say. Cheers Sue Nielsen ================================================================= Sue Nielsen Senior Lecturer in Information Systems School of Computing and information Technology Griffith University, Nathan Qld Australia 4111 Email: S.Nielsen@mailbox.gu.edu.au Tel: +61 7 3875 5025 Fax: +61 7 3875 5051 ================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:42:34 +0800 (JST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Re: American Beauty won (NJC)!!!!!!!! I was happy for the triumph of AMERICAN BEAUTY. Kevin Spacey is in my top ten favorite actor list, but to me, the subtlest and heartfelt and moving performance turned in by any actor was the non-bravura performance of Richard Farnsworth for THE STRAIGHT STORY. Annette Bening and Janet McTeer were good and I was happy for Hilary Swank for a brave and just perfect performance. I thought Angelia Jolie was great, too, but I was secretly rooting for another underdog: Catherine Keener in BEING JOHN MALKOVICH. As for the supporting actor, I would have wanted Jude Law to get it. And Sarah McLachlan is beautiful!!! Joseph (had a big laugh over Cher's speech) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #155 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?