From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #145 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Tuesday, March 21 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 145 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- ANNOUNCING....... [AsharaJM@aol.com] RE: ANNOUNCING....... ["Wally Kairuz" ] tunings ["catman" ] NJC Modern @phorisms [Dmascall@aol.com] clouds ["Raffaele Malanga" ] re: David Blue/Play Little David - OOOPS!!! ["P. Henry" ] Re: Mars Music Ampitheatre NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Porn Laws NJC ["Reuben Bell" ] Re: Mars Music Ampitheatre NJC [Phyliss Ward ] Re: Michael from mountains [Dflahm@aol.com] sad news - NJC ["Mark or Travis" ] Joni in People Magazine [AsharaJM@aol.com] Sharing Birthdays (NJC) [Dmascall@aol.com] RE: New JMDL UK member [luvart@snet.net] (Wo)Man from Mars (NJC) [Bounced Message ] Toronto Star, Sat. Mar. 18/00, features Joni's BSN painting [Catherine M] Re: Joni Mitchell Voices ["susan+rick" ] sad news (njc) [Anne Sandstrom ] RE: New JMDL UK member [Catherine McKay ] letter to Joni [Anne Sandstrom ] Blue, etc. [Steve Dulson ] Re: clouds [Dmascall@aol.com] RE: New JMDL UK member [jan gyn ] Re: clouds [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: ISO artwork [SMEBD@aol.com] Re: Porn Laws NJC [catman ] Re: Audiophile News, 100% JC [Don Rowe ] Bishop Spong NJC [Randy Remote ] Re: Painting with Words and Music Taping ["Kakki" ] ticket prices (NJC) [Wolfebite@aol.com] BDays NJC [Vince Lavieri ] RE: Got tickets! ["James Fritts" ] JONI @ MSG IN NYC [KerriLynn@aol.com] RE: New JMDL UK member [Joseph Palis ] Re: New JMDL UK member (NJC) [AngelinoCoyote@aol.com] Re: Painting with Words and Music Taping ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Rolling Stone and HOSL [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: interesting trivia NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: ticket prices (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Julian!~ where are you? NJC [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Joni L.A. Tickets ["Kakki" ] Brian Blade's new album ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 03:01:48 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: ANNOUNCING....... To the tune of "Dreamland," (with much apologies to SIQUOMB) It's not a long, long way to Topsfield From ports all over the world Joni listers slicing up those shrimp To be in cajun sauces twirled Maggie's covered with grocery lists The cook's got a Joni song MG sleeps in someplace shady With Jonifest coming on Jonifest, Jonifest Jonifest, Jonifest Grumpy neighbors and Topsfield cops Come marching out of the woods And claim it's way too noisy For the rest of the local "goody-goods" I wrapped that cop around my finger Like an octopus 'round a prawn And I lay down thinking "Stuuuuuff it." With Jonifest coming on Jonifest, Jonifest Jonifest, Jonifest Good time Kakki and martinis All dressed up to follow the songs Whether it's NJC or JC It doesn't matter for too long All people, all voices shining Staying up all night long Propped up on a Joni beat With Jonifest coming on Jonifest, Jonifest Jonifest, Jonifest Yes, my friends, it's true!! After much teasing, taunting, and tantalizing..... ANNOUNCING..... THE 3rd (??Annual??) NEW ENGLAND LABOR DAY WEEKEND JONIFEST!!!!!! WHEN: Saturday, September 2, 2000 (The "official" starting date) Friday, September 1, 2000 (The "unofficial" starting date) WHERE: Ashara's house - north of Boston TIME: Let's have a good one! DEPARTURE: at some point on Sunday FOR: JMDLers (since space is limited, significant others will be allowed *only* if we are not full to capacity.) WHAT: LOTS of live music (mostly Joni), sleep-over, and Joni sing-a-long! Also, possibly another Joni trivia game, shmoosing with JMDL friends old and new, raffles galore, and much, much more! YOUR HOSTS: Ashara- Hospitality and Housing Hostess Maggie- Cordial Culinary Queen Chuck E.- Maestro and Master of Music As last year, there will be an "admission fee". To reserve your spot at the party, you will need 3 things: 1) A nonrefundable check in ANY amount, payable to Les Irvin, and sent to me at: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 to benefit the JMDL website. Les has modestly started this incredible JMDL community, as well as keeping an extensive JMDL website going, and it is time to show our appreciation! 2) A completed questionnaire either by e-mail or snail mail. As this is in my home, and I do not know many of you personally, NO ONE will be admitted without the questionnaire completely filled out. (If you filled one out last year, it is not necessary unless the information has changed.) Because of Labor Day being a very busy weekend, please send your check right away if you are planning to attend. There is a limited amount of space at the house, so it will be on a first-come, first-served basis. There are ample hotels/motels in the area as well for the overflow. 3) A small picture of you (no bigger than 4x6) RAFFLES GALORE!!!!!!! The raffle was SO much fun last year, we are repeating it!! There will be 2 separate raffles: 1) EVERY person that sends a check for Les will be automatically entered to win a prize. (You need not be present to win.) 2) EVERY Jonifest attendee will be eligible for a separate Jonifest-only raffle! Please send any and all raffle items you have to give away to me at the address above. (Joni memorabilia, songbooks, magazine articles, CD's, pictures of Joni, videos, posters, etc.) In short, anything wonderful that would be fun to include. (Please don't send your dirty socks!) THE LABOR DAY MAILING LIST: If you would like to be on the separate mailing list for the Labor Day Jonifest, send a blank e-mail message to: laborday2000-subscribe@eGroups.com There will be LOTS more information coming forward in the very near future, including an address to get all the latest up-to-date information, the questionnaire, and accomodation info. I would LOVE to see ALL of you there! Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:10:09 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: ANNOUNCING....... ASHES!!!! reserve a place for me in your mansion, please. i'll be there and how!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! howling at the moon with excitement, wallyk cash on the way! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:24:10 -0000 From: "catman" Subject: tunings According to some bumph I read, the reason Joni developed alternate tunings is they are easier for her left hand to play, due to the affects of her polio. Is that true? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:42:13 EST From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: NJC Modern @phorisms It certainly doesn't qualify as an aphorism, but possibly our German-speaking listers can tell us if there's such a thing as "heim@" David Mascall (trying to be too much of a smart@) PS some song titles suggest themselves - how about that decorous little english number "TCP/IP for two (and two for TCP/IP)"? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:53:12 PST From: "Raffaele Malanga" Subject: clouds I just need a little help... During the 2nd Fret show, before performing Both Sides Now Joni talks about what inspired her to write the song and mentions a book she was reading. About the title of this book I only got something like "Henderson and the Rain King". Is this right? Does any of you know more about the book and its author? Thanks Raffaele in London ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 02:28:53 -0800 From: "P. Henry" Subject: re: David Blue/Play Little David - OOOPS!!! dearest list, my humble, groveling apologies to all Joniphiles everywhere for diseminating false info onlist. I beg forgiveness and mercy in light of my many crusty years and fast failing memory. thanks to a reminder from a good old friend, I would now like to correct my errant post from yesterday: while it is true that several times when Joni performed Play Little David live in my presence, she spoke of the David whom the song was about, contrary to my previous post, the man in question was most definitely NOT David Blue, but instead a rather extraordinary guitarist, well known in folk circles at the time, named David Rey. I'm pretty sure this info is accurate and I am very, very, very, VERY, VERY sorry!!! PLEASE forgive me???? pat Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:18:07 -0500 From: waytoblu@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Tickets secured! >Does anyone know when the tickets for the Atlanta concert will go on sale? I know that Chastain in the past has made tickets available to American Express Gold members before selling them to the public and/or season ticket holders. When tickets do go on sale through ticketmaster all the different shows for the season go on sale at once. I'm not sure how it will work with the joni show. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:29:39 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: Audiophile News, 100% JC Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > "The only missed opportunities > are the absence of hall ambience between tracks; > those fades to digital black are jarring." > I don't think that's possible with cd. In order to seek between tracks there needs to be a gap with digital silence. Great article, I enjoyed reading it very much. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:39:40 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Mars Music Ampitheatre NJC Phyliss asks: << Can anyone tell me for sure what/where the Mars Music Ampitheatre is? >> Even though Joni's schedule shows that she will be in the Mars Music Amphitheater in Miami, your sister is correct. It is located in West Palm Beach, which depending where in Miami she lives can be a 2 hour drive. The venue is an amphitheater that accommodates about 20,000 people. I have not been there myself, but I hear it has the main seating which is a covered pavilion and behind that is the lawn seating, where people can bring blankets and sit under the stars (or rain clouds since it's getting to be that time in May) Phyliss, if you love your sister Roberta Joy who is Joni's age and it's for her birthday, I think you should provide a limousine service and those two hours from Miami will just fly by :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:00:54 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: tunings <> From all that I've read & heard from her interviews, Colin, it was that she heard chords in her head that couldn't be configured by hand using conventional tunings, so the only way she could play them was to adjust the guitar strings so that her hands could handle the stretch. Bob NP: Scruffy The Cat, "One Bad Apple" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:20:16 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: tunings In a message dated 3/20/2000 5:11:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: << <> From all that I've read & heard from her interviews, Colin, it was that she heard chords in her head that couldn't be configured by hand using conventional tunings, so the only way she could play them was to adjust the guitar strings so that her hands could handle the stretch. >> As a guitar player I can tell you that Colins "bumph" is probably closer to the truth than Bobs take. Tunings allow a chord to be played simpler than the conventional way. A "c" chord in either open or Barre form covers three frets. In a "C" tuning it is played without even using the left hand. Other "chords" are played with a simple barring of two or three strings. My guess however is that the truth is neither Bobs or Colins. I think its because with open tunings you get all kinds of other notes and sounds, dissonant and harmonic tones that augment the chords natural sound and provide a more colorful and different blend of notes. Something that undoubtedly appealed to Joni's artiste mentality. Most players dont play other tunings because its too much a pain in the butt to tune and retune. But if you go through the trouble its a world all its own. marcel deste. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:25:23 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Tickets secured! Kakki writes: << I would recommend that everyone start checking with their particular venues or getting on their email lists now to see if there is some kind of priority deal like the Greek is doing of offering first choice of seats before they go on sale to the public at the end of the month. I had to order three other events to get the second best choice of priority seats, >> I looked at the Mars Amphitheatre's VIP seating and for box (4 tickets) seating, the price starts at $12,190. LOL That does include VIP parking, a special entrance, private restrooms and FREE appetizers before the show. Hey Laura "Got any coupons for me?" Jimmy, reserving my place at Mar a lago ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:35:04 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Joni in April LIFE mag & More Guests for ALL STAR TRIBUTE Just an FYI: Notice the new post on the JoniMitchell.com site????? Here it is: "More guests are being announced for "An All Star Tribute to Joni Mitchell," scheduled to be broadcast on the TNT Network on April 16, at 9 PM EST/PST: Shawn Colvin, Diana Krall, Cassandra Wilson and Wynonna are now confirmed in addition to Elton John, k.d. lang and James Taylor, who were announced previously. Ashley Judd will host. Also, the April issue of Life magazine has a short article on Joni, in which she talks about the current state of popular music (no, it's not a pretty picture). She also talks about how she "beat polio at nine, mystically" (I remember her telling Wally and me about this last October). The article is accompanied by a beautiful new black and white photo. Life will cease regular publication in May — at least they're going out on a high note! " Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:36:49 -0000 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: Fare-thee-well I'm heading off list for a while. Weight of work, the blues and other stuff. Take it easy, good luck with all the fest's. See you 'round. Les (London) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:44:01 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Mars Music Ampitheatre NJC FMYFL@aol.com wrote:Phyliss, if you love your sister Roberta Joy who is Joni's age and it's for > her birthday, I think you should provide a limousine service and those two > hours from Miami will just fly by :~) And swing by St. Petersburg and pick me up! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:07:59 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: First Rehearsal Michael Paz wrote: > Dear List- > Had my first rehearsal with some of the band that will be playing > with me at JoniFest 2000. All I can say is WoW! I have never played > these songs with a fretless player before and it felt so good. Looks > like a will be doing a ton of Hejira era after all. I guess I officially > have to jump ship from For The Roses and join the Hejira camp again as > Number 1. Traitor!!!!! Wicked Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 06:56:29 PST From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Re: Porn Laws NJC Just out of curiosity, what changes *were* made to the UK porn laws? Reuben >From: "Sue Cameron" >O.k. Colin you think that "The governament spokesperson was a lady >by the name of Diane Organ MP!!!!!" was funny, how about those of us >reading this stateside...I caught a snatch... where the term "snatch" is >slang for the vagina. >Got a double whammy laugh out of that one! > >Sue ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 06:58:33 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Mars Music Ampitheatre NJC Jimmy What a loving and grand concept! I am now officially opening the "West Palm or Bust Fund" a/k/a "Send Roberta Joy to Roberta Joan". Send all donations to me personally, email me for my snail mail address ; - ) Sorry, cash or check only, no credit cards or coupons accepted. Phyliss, just kidding! FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > Phyliss, if you love your sister Roberta Joy who is Joni's age and it's for > her birthday, I think you should provide a limousine service and those two > hours from Miami will just fly by :~) > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:15:35 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Michael from mountains Marie Jose: I'm happy to talk about "Michael from Mountains," probably the best-remembered song from the SONG TO A SEAGULL recording. It's a little arty, but poignant anyway. "Michael from mountains" sounds like the kind of name young people give each other when they want to express tenderness, want to maintain privacy, but fear being tied down and fear being too much like their parents. That is, "Sweetheart" would be completely unacceptable in this context. To me, the Joni persona who sings could be singing to a real "you," some young woman she'd overheard referring shyly to her friend/beau/lover as "MFM" or she could be talking about herself. You didn't ask me, but I feel you would generate more response if you'd share with others what your associations are when you listen to the song. I wish you joyful success with your music. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:25:24 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: sad news - NJC My friend Denny passed away at 12:52 MST this morning. A full moon & the Vernal Equinox are a very appropriate time for this very gentle & spiritual soul to take his leave of this world. Thank you to all who sent your prayers & good thoughts. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:48:00 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Joni in People Magazine Joseph panicked: <> You lucky, lucky JMDLers!!! At the risk of sounding like "Fundraiser Annie," For those of you that missed picking up the March 20th issue of People Magazine, which had a GREAT 3 pages of Joni, here is your chance!! For the first 3 JMDLers that are on the real-time list, and the first 3 JMDLers that are on the digest, here is what you need to do to get this magazine: E-mail me privately with a committment of a minimum $20 donation towards the fundraiser for Les to support the JMDL website, and send your check (payable to Les Irvin) within one week of notification, and I will send you a brand new copy right out to you. This offer is limited to those that have no other way of getting this magazine. (i.e. they live in a place that does not have it, or they "missed the boat.") Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:19:50 EST From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: Sharing Birthdays (NJC) I am privileged to share a birthday with the comic genius Evelyn Waugh. Unfortunately Bill Gates and Julia Roberts decided to get in on the act too..... The Amazon-owned film website (can't remember the name or URL) has some filmic and showbiz birthdays for those who'd like to check their own. David Mascall ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:21:35 -0500 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: RE: New JMDL UK member At 04:27 AM 3/20/00 -0300, Wally Kairuz wrote: > >> Bob, who shares a birthday with Bruce Springsteen & Ray Charles > >i share a birthday with marelene dietrich...does that count? >wallyk Only if my birthday shared with Sophia Loren counts ;-) Heather ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:42:17 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: (Wo)Man from Mars (NJC) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:29:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lori Fye Hi all ... sorry for the bounce-thru ... I just emailed Colin, our resident cat expert, with the hope that he will have a suggestion as to how to stop my 9-year-old mixed breed cat, Chloe, from peeing on the bathroom rug. My lover is quite displeased and is certain Chloe's next target will be the oriental rug in the living room. We're a four-cat household and Chloe has behaved very well for the past two months since we moved here, but at the moment things are not looking good for Chloe's continued habitation in our home. Chloe and I have been partners for nine years and she has traveled with me everywhere, providing stability and companionship all the while. I am broken-hearted, to say the least. I'm not sure if Chloe would have this bad habit if she were an "only" cat. She hasn't enjoyed that particular luxury since she was 7 months old, and she's had periodic various episodes of this unfortunate (and gross) behavior since 1995. Does anyone have a remedy? At best, I think I'm faced with placing Chloe in an adoption center (poor chances for a new home for her, I fear). At worst ... well, I think we all know what "worst" is. My only consolation when considering that idea is that she would be joining my brother Billy, who (okay, smirk if you will) has already indicated that would be okay. Up for adoption: Chloe (Chlorine, Chloe-ette, Clueless) the family cat, who unfortunately pees sometimes where she shouldn't and doesn't like the sound of Joni's singing (nope, not even "Man from Mars"). Any takers? Much love to all ... ===== Lori in DC "Progress is impossible without change, and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything." (George Bernard Shaw) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:49:45 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Toronto Star, Sat. Mar. 18/00, features Joni's BSN painting I'm about 400 e-mails behind, so forgive me if this has been mentioned by someone else. A quick glance through subject headers in my in-box seems to indicate that it hasn't been mentioned. The Toronto Star has a weekly short feature in their Saturday edition called "Paint by Numbers", which features a work of art (usually a painting) and explains, using numbers on the painting, what it "means". This Saturday's edition featured Joni's "Front Side Now" from BSN in fulll colour. (the Joni-in-the-bar/ heart-on-sleeve, map-of-Canada-on-the-coaster one). I've checked the Star's website to see if this particular item happens to be there, but was unable to find it. I do have the clipping, but no scanning abilities. As a result, I transcribed it. My comments explain where on the painting the "numbers" would appear. Et voila... _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Text of "Paint by Numbers" feature in Toronto Star, Saturday, March 18, 2000. Front Side Now, Oil on Canvas, 1999 - -- article by Jennie Punter-- Born Nov. 7, 1943, Roberta Joan Anderson, otherwise known as Joni Mitchell, grew up in Saskatchewan and studied at the Alberta College of Art in the early '60s before becoming one of the most influential singer-songwriters in rock history. "Front Side Now" is a self-portrait on the cover of Mitchell's latest recording Both Sides Now (out this Tuesday). It and its companion, "Back Side Now" (the album's back-cover painting, an over-the-shoulder view revealing the shelves of bottles behind the bar and the artist's painted thumbnail hooked through her blonde locks), are included in Voices, the first-ever retrospective exhibition of Mitchell's art, running June 30 to Sept. 3 at the Mendel Art Gallery in Saskatoon. Voices' installation incorporates many of Mitchell's song-lyric poems and recordings that relate to the artworks. Gallery director Gilles Hebert, also the curator of Voices, says the show's 80 works, culled from hundreds of pieces in Mitchell's collection, include "everything from her felt-marker and line drawings of the '60s, to photo-based work from the '80s and her recent oil-based paintings". 1. [on the title to-right of the painting - presumably on the album, not on the painting itself!] "Both Sides Now" is Mitchell's folk-pop classic and the title of her latest album, which includes a jazz re-interpretation of the song. Her original version appeared on her 1969 album Clouds. "Both Sides Now" was a smash 1968 hit for Judy Collins, and has been covered by numerous singers. 2. [next to Joni's face] Mitchell creates the artwork for each of her album covers and appears in self-portrait in most of them. "I discovered that not only is visual art Joan's first love, but she has maintained a very strong connection to Saskatchewan and the Prairies," says Hebert. "Her parents still live here, and she comes through quite often". 3. [Joni's sleeve] The artist, a former teen model, literally wears her heart on her green sleeve. 4. [the coaster] The small, gray bar coaster contains two maps of Canada. It was inspired by her lyric, "On the back of a cartoon coaster/ In the blue TV screen light/ I drew a map of Canada/ Oh Canada/ And I sketched your face on it twice" from "A Case of You", a song from Mitchell's 1971 album Blue, given a jazz re-interpretation on Both Sides Now. 5. [the glass and its contents] While Mitchell refers to wine in many tunes, including "A Case of You" ("you are in my blood like holy wine"), Hebert says the red liquid in the glass "could be wine or it could be cranberry juice - Joan loves cranberry juice". - --30-- __________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Catherine, signing off to tend her carpal tunnel syndrome flaring up due to over-enthusiastic typing... ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca (the former cateri@hotmail) _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 08:46:31 -0800 From: "susan+rick" Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Voices Hey everybody, another trip to plan! I checked the Mendel Art Gallery (online) in Saskatoon for info re: the Joni exhibit and found nothing so I wrote to their communication officer and got this reply: > The Mendel website is under construction, but we hope to have it up and in > action for Joni. The exhibition, "VOICES: Joni Mitchell," opens at the > Mendel Art Gallery on Friday, June 30, 2000 and will be on display until > September 3rd. The artist will be in attendance at the Opening Reception. > The exhibition will comprise over 80 works representing the artist's > production from the 1960s to today. There will be a 64-page full-colour, > hard-cover catalogue of the exhibition, as well as a life-size poster of > one of the works commemorating the exhibition. There are plans to tour the > exhibition nationally and perhaps internationally, due to intense interest > from the visual arts community. > > The Mendel will be issuing a proper media release next week, but for now > this is all the information I can offer, professionally. Personally, the > catalogue is brilliant and I am sure that any Joni fan will want one, and > if you won't want to miss the exhibition and/or opening. There are 85 of > Joni's works included, and her music and lyrics will be included to present > all her Voices as the consumate artist that she is. > > If you have any further questions or comments, please direct them to me at > this email address or ring me at 306-975-7617. > > Thanks again for your fervent interest in this exhilirating project! > > Natalie Kallio So unless a BSN concert is announced for Vancouver or Seattle this will be my Joni trip of the year. Maybe a mini-prairie-Jonifest is in order? All good things Rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:46:15 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: sad news (njc) Hello everyone. Well, the news is unfortunately what I feared. The tumor was cancerous. Also, there was a cancerous growth on the remaining ovary. So next week I'll be having a complete hysterectomy and then in a few weeks start chemotherapy. I'm in shock, but kind of doing ok - at least for the moment. All your love and prayers got me through the weekend. I can't begin to thank you all enough. I'll keep you posted, of course. Actually, I think that my connection to all of you will be one of the ESSENTIAL ingredients in my treatment and recovery. so, like, does anyone want to finish my taxes (I just can't bear the thought of changing one stupid number and reprinting them...and I'm even getting a refund!) just kidding, but it'll probably take me the whole damn week to actually do it :-) My best to all of you. You're an amazing community. much, much love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:59:38 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: New JMDL UK member Bob shares a birthday with Bruce Springsteen & Ray Charles; Wally K shares with Marlene Dietrich; Heather with Sophia Loren. Please don't remind me of birthdays. I'd like to think I don't have those anymore. Unfortunately, mine is coming sooner than I'd like to think (mine is shared with Alec Guinness, which is OK with me - I always liked him!) ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca (the former cateri@hotmail) _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:59:25 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: letter to Joni I think you'll all understand why I'm writing this now... Please note the capitalized line - for me the entire song has always hinged on it. Anne - ------------------- Dear Joni, Just after "Clouds" was released, an enlightened music teacher played Chelsea Morning for my music class. At that moment, my life changed. AT LAST! Poetry, incredible melody, a song that connected with every amorphous thought and creative impulse that floated within me. You have been my teacher, my mentor. I learned to play. I learned to write. And I found my own voice. But just as numerous painters are considered to be part of a school, I've been a student in your school of songwriitng. A number of years ago, I wrote this. Oddly enough, more than anyone else's music, this song says what I want right now. For me, that means I am a songwriter. In the Underground In the underground Pablo paints the tunnels red With the cursing words Too big to fit inside his head In the tunnels On the tiles Where the puppet people file No one sees No one reads Words like blood Words like weeds In the underground Janie pulls the papers round In a makeshift shroud Shaking on the grave grey ground No warm blanket No warm bed No place soft to rest her head And the chill In the wind Ruffles up her too thin skin In the underground I AM ONLY PASSING THROUGH You don't see no one An no one looks at you Like a ghost In the green Of this eery, half-lit scene In between In a daze In the heart of this dark place Thank you for the inspiration and instruction. You've helped me find some of the greatest joys of my life. Humbly, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:19:17 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Blue, etc. Hello all! I am recovering from St. Pat's syndrome...after three days of green beer, corned beef and requests for "Danny Boy"...we got home from the first of Sunday's gig, I picked up Kakki's phone message about Greek tickets...and fell fast asleep on the couch. Thank God Michele had set the alarm to wake us before gig number 2....I will try for tix today... My friend Jerry wrote: >If Blue is about David Blue then that is news to most of us. Not to me, hehehehehe....they were an item for sure. The "Blue" album was going to be called "River", until she came up with the "Blue" song, which bumped "Hunter" (is that the name? The one about the stray cat? My mind is not wha it should be...") off the album. Blue (the guy) was with Joni at her Spring '72 concert in Berkeley, with Jackson Browne opening...and I took a photo to prove it...:) > Mike Regenstreif Ckut Montreal Mike is an exceptionally knowledgeable DJ, so I would tend to believe what he says. Besides, he's played cuts from both Tinker CDs :) And Kakki wrote: > finally the disputed "Blue" - I defer to my elder Joni experts on this >one ;-) Elder?!? Go on, rub it in! :) I wonder if they'd notice here at work if I fell asleep at my desk? :) Best, ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:21:24 EST From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: Re: clouds Date: 20-03-00 To: r_malanga@hotmail.com Apologies - forgot to add the JMDL email address to this reply - still getting used to a mountain of individual emails as opposed to digests Dear Raffaelle (hope that's the right spelling) "Henderson and the rain king" is a novel by Saul Bellow, an American-Jewish writer. I read the book too long ago to remember it, but I seem to recall it's about a Westerner "going native" in Africa. Don't know if it's still in print but this should be easy enough to check, either online or any decent bookshop. If it's out of print try somewhere like SKOOB or any 2nd hand bookshop (there may still be some on the Charing Cross Road, but I haven't been there for some time). Otherwise try www.abebooks.com for Amazon-free advice. If you're really lucky your local library may stock it. David Mascall ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:21:06 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: RE: New JMDL UK member >> Bob, who shares a birthday with Bruce Springsteen & Ray Charles >i share a birthday with marelene dietrich...does that count? >wallyk I got Hitler and Ashley Judd. Woohoo! - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:02:49 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: clouds <<"Henderson and the rain king" is a novel by Saul Bellow, an American-Jewish writer. I read the book too long ago to remember it, but I seem to recall it's about a Westerner "going native" in Africa.>> And the section Joni references is when he's flying, looking down at clouds, and thinks to himself that he's looked at clouds from both sides. I would guess that this book also inspired Counting Crows "Rain King", which also mentions Henderson...but I ain't about to join the Counting Crows list to find out! :~) Bob NP: Seal, "Just Like You" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:07:20 EST From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Re: ISO artwork Scott: The artwork can be found at http://home.revealed.net/Harpua/jmdl2/cdt2/index.htm Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:18:05 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Porn Laws NJC From the little I heard, it would appear that licenced sex shops can now legally sell hardcore porn. Reuben Bell wrote: > Just out of curiosity, what changes *were* made to the UK porn laws? > > Reuben > > >From: "Sue Cameron" > >O.k. Colin you think that "The governament spokesperson was a lady > >by the name of Diane Organ MP!!!!!" was funny, how about those of us > >reading this stateside...I caught a snatch... where the term "snatch" is > >slang for the vagina. > >Got a double whammy laugh out of that one! > > > >Sue > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -- To change the world-change your self "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:51:45 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Audiophile News, 100% JC - --- philipf@tinet.ie wrote: In order to > seek between > tracks there needs to be a gap with digital silence. > Great article, > I enjoyed reading it very much. > > Not so -- classical symphonies and some musical soundtracks employ "index marks" -- audio-transparent digital signposts to mark off sections without silences. Don Rowe ===== "I want a stillness inside, and a quiet of mind, and to stop dreaming of the comfort of strangers." -- Julia Fordham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:37:56 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Bishop Spong NJC I don't know much about him, other than several of us wrote limericks about him, but he is scheduled to be on ABC's "Politically Incorrect" tonight (Mon) RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:50:24 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Painting with Words and Music Taping Mark wrote to Coyote: >I wasn't there but I do know that Painting With Words and Music was taped at Warner Bros studios >in LA right after the west coast leg of the Dylan/Joni/Morrison tour in May of '98 and that Joni's >management contacted Wally to put the word out that they needed seat-fillers for the show. Several >people from the JMDL went and were rewarded with being able to see the entire performance and they >also got to meet Joni afterwards. Gee, this makes us sound like nothing more than cattle answering a call ;-) It was a little better than that. Myself and two other listmembers received prior VIP invitations from other Joni sources. I was then told by both Wally and Robbie that Joni herself personally asked that some of her internet community be invited to the taping. Wally called me and said that he was given 10 VIP invitations - those seats went to a few of Wally's friends, Les, and a few of the SoCal listmembers. Wally was also given an invitation for 50 "seat-fillers" who would be on stand-by in case there were other invitees who did not show. About 5 additional listmembers went for that option and were happily able to get right in for both nights of the taping. I recall that one was even personally escorted to a seat by Joni. We all enjoyed a very nice cocktail pre-party both nights before the show and a tour of her paintings. She met us all personally after the first taping night. Maybe we were just "filler" but we were treated royally by all accounts. >And yes, that is Wally looking at the paintings and you can also see him in several shots during the >performance, sitting behind Joni, smiling and looking like he's in heaven. Wally looks just beautiful in those shots. Also, to Wally's upper right you can often see listmember Don Sloan. Don's the one who looks like a very distinguished relative of David Crosby ;-) Kakki NP: Blind Faith - Can't Find My Way Home ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:56:26 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Got tickets! I just ordered my Greek Theatre tickets, by phone. They offered me another price option - $128.50 - but that was a LITTLE rich for my blood. I'll take binoculars, and spend the difference on some good Merlot at the Bel Air Hotel....:) ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:28:40 EST From: Wolfebite@aol.com Subject: ticket prices (NJC) i'm a little concerned about these ticket prices!! just had to get that off my chest! doug ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:47:24 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: BDays NJC jan gyn wrote: > >> Bob, who shares a birthday with Bruce Springsteen & Ray Charles > >i share a birthday with marelene dietrich...does that count? > >wallyk > > I got Hitler and Ashley Judd. Woohoo! > -jan I get the anniversary of the massacre of General Braddock;s troops in the French and Indian War, and O. J. Simpson's birthday. Somehow thosde two items are rtelated, but why me too? (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:52:45 -0800 From: "James Fritts" Subject: RE: Got tickets! Just got off the phone with Velociticketraptor and they're sold out. I was calling about this class of ticket as I got the $80 ticket about an hour ago. I'm in row O - aka 15th row. Can't complain. See ya'll there as well as San Fran. Peace. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Steve > Dulson > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 1:56 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Got tickets! > > > I just ordered my Greek Theatre tickets, by phone. They > offered me another price option - $128.50 - but that > was a LITTLE rich for my blood. I'll take binoculars, > and spend the difference on some good Merlot at the > Bel Air Hotel....:) > > > > ######################################################### > Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com > "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com > "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ > "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:16:25 EST From: KerriLynn@aol.com Subject: JONI @ MSG IN NYC Hello all NY jmdlers....(all others tooooooo!!) Just to let ya know of a quick update... I called ticketmaster tonite, and they do not have joni's concert yet available in thier system.... they couldnt even give me an "approximate" date when the tix may be on sale for the 5/22-5/23 shows in nyc @ msg... so i then called msg; they also said that they have no further information on the event.... let's hope and pray to the joni gods that we find out first!!! a "not a lot" poster.... {i dont consider myself a lurker anymore ;) } KerriLynn np: lucy kaplansky - ten year night ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:02:57 +0800 (JST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE: New JMDL UK member Mine's with Adolf Hitler, Joey Grey, Oleg Cassini, and Kylie Minogue. Joseph On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Wally Kairuz wrote: > > > Bob, who shares a birthday with Bruce Springsteen & Ray Charles > > i share a birthday with marelene dietrich...does that count? > wallyk > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:35:08 EST From: AngelinoCoyote@aol.com Subject: Re: New JMDL UK member (NJC) I share the same date of birth (different years) with Prince Charles and I too talk to plants, but avoid horsey women. :) No regrets, Coyote Casa Alegre Hollywood, California I danced on a pony keg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 18:41:06 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Painting with Words and Music Taping > Gee, this makes us sound like nothing more than cattle answering a call ;-) > It was a little better than that. Myself and two other listmembers received > prior VIP invitations from other Joni sources. I was then told by both Wally > and Robbie that Joni herself personally asked that some of her internet > community be invited to the taping. Wally called me and said that he was > given 10 VIP invitations - those seats went to a few of Wally's friends, > Les, and a few of the SoCal listmembers. My apologies, Ms. Kakki. Thank you for your first hand account. Since I wasn't there my memory of how it happened is not as clear as yours. Maybe we were just "filler" but we were treated royally by all > accounts. It certainly sounds like it. My envy still flairs up just thinking about it. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:19:56 -0500 From: waytoblu@mindspring.com Subject: interesting trivia I was talking to my friend Richard Bicknell today about the new Joni Mitchell album and he informed me that there is a new Patti Smith album, Gung Ho, that also comes out tomorrow. Apparently this isn't the first time they have released albums on the same day. Hejira was released along with Patti Smith, Radio Ethiopia. Victor http://www.mindspring.com/~waytoblu/Tangled.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:29:12 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Rolling Stone and HOSL Were thr Rolling Stone reviewers completly NUTS in 1975????How could they have rated the adventurous,confident,sophisticated,excellent music of HSOL as "The worst album of the year",and of all the terrible music that came out that year.,they couldn't find one worse then HOSL?They must have had a vendetta against Joni. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:42:34 -0500 (EST) From: David Wright Subject: Re: Rolling Stone and HOSL On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > Were thr Rolling Stone reviewers completly NUTS in 1975????How could they > have rated the adventurous,confident,sophisticated,excellent music of HSOL as > "The worst album of the year" [snip] I thought it was actually worst album *title* of the year. - --David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:05:29 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Rolling Stone and HOSL In a message dated 3/20/00 9:32:45 PM US Central Standard Time, Relayer211@aol.com writes: << Were thr Rolling Stone reviewers completly NUTS in 1975????How could they have rated the adventurous,confident,sophisticated,excellent music of HSOL as "The worst album of the year", >> Relayer, that is one of the most misunderstood 'urban legends' out there...what they called it was the worst album TITLE. But either way, they were as wrong as could be - HOSL is pure genius from start to finish, including the title, the cover, the liner notes, you name it! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:12:22 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: interesting trivia NJC Victor said: << there is a new Patti Smith album, Gung Ho, that also comes out tomorrow. >> And the pre-release reviews have been really positive (4 1/2 stars in Rolling Stone). As strong as the last couple of hers have been, this one sounds like it's really gonna be great! And while I'm thinking about it, my wife called me into the living room last night because she heard a song in a VW Cabriolet ad that she was CRAZY about and asked me if I knew what it was. She was impressed when I identified it as "Pink Moon" by Nick Drake. The only reason I knew it was because of the Nick Drake sampler that Paul Castle made for me, so thanks to Paul for the Nick Drake intro! And *I* was impressed that VW pulled that tune for their ad... PS: Any Atlanta Joni ticket info yet? Bob NP: XTC, "Your Dictionary" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:20:36 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: ticket prices (NJC) << i'm a little concerned about these ticket prices!! just had to get that off my chest! >> Thanks for the honesty there, Doug...of course, I'll pay it & love the show, but WOW! I just bought three prime seats for Jackson Browne and it was a little over $100 for all 3! And a quick note regarding the covers project: Tomorrow I'll be sending out my complimentary copies of Discs 1 & 2 to all the generous contributors (you know who you are), so be on the lookout for some upcoming Joni-related treats! I feel like Santa Claus lugging this big bag of parcels to the Post Office! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:29:16 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Julian!~ where are you? NJC Sorry to bug the list but Julian sent me some blank Cd's and now I don't know what to put on them so Julian, Respondez si vous plaint!!! Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:45:15 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Joni L.A. Tickets Since I'm on digest a couple of concerned people forwarded me a post from James Fritts saying that "they were sold out." I got worried because I don't think everyone planning to go has gotten their tickets yet. I just called the Ticketbast, er, master and they are not sold out yet. I assume James meant the $128 tix were the ones sold out. (Hey James are you going to party with us? ;-) Kakki NP: Brian Blade's new album "Perpetual" (God this album is GORGEOUS! Thank you M. Paz!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:58:15 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Brian Blade's new album Oops, the name of the album is "Perceptual" not "Perpetual" I'm just finishing listening to the Joni cut and it is one of the most far out beautiful things I've ever heard. Can't even describe it. WOW. Kakki NP: BB + Joni ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #145 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?