From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #132 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Thursday, March 9 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 132 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Diltz ["Kakki" ] BSN in the UK charts [Martin Giles ] Re: What kind of do are you? (NJC) ["Alan Lorimer" ] Re: How Percy Meisel fails [mick ] NJC Re: #32 on the Top 100 of all time (md) NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] re: Confounding Expectations [Catherine McKay ] Joni/James [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Not still on my feet [Gertus@aol.com] Rosie O mentions "Both Sides Now" ["Robert Paterson" ] Confounding Expectations ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Rosie O mentions "Both Sides Now" [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni's Jazz Sequel [jan gyn ] BSN in TimeOut ["Raffaele Malanga" ] Re: What kind of do are you? (NJC) [Vince Lavieri ] [Fwd: [Fwd: IWD Joni Mitchell Segment..]] [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Finally got it! and Miami Beach question [Jerry Notaro ] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) [Martin Giles ] Re: Finally got it! and Miami Beach question [Brian Gross ] Re: joni moment on rosie... [Jerry Notaro ] Thanks everyone/The Sire of Sorrow [Bounced Message ] Re: Joni's Jazz Sequel [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: How Percy Meisel fails [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (njc) ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: BSN Review on Muse ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: Elton John/Sting NJC ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: Confounding Expectations ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Introducing Myself (SJC) [AngelinoCoyote@aol.com] re: Confounding Expectations [AngelinoCoyote@aol.com] Re: Cricket - sorry, very NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] re: joni moment on rosie... [AngelinoCoyote@aol.com] Re: Julia Fordham (NJC) [AngelinoCoyote@aol.com] Re: Introducing Myself (NJC) ["rick novosel" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:45:03 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Diltz RR asked: > I caught it too, it was great. Does anyone know-was this > the same as the "Under The Covers" CD-ROM?? The CD-ROM contains most of the same material plus a whole lot more. An expanded version of the TV show is available on DVD and video from Henry's website which probably incorporates more of the material from the CD-ROM. I definitely recommend getting both. And Steve Dulson wrote: >I nominate Henry and Kakki to be the tour guides >on the LA jmdl tour busses..."on your left we have Joni's >Lookout Mountain Road home, famous as "Our House", >where she lived from..." Only if I get to ride along in that cute old Porsche of his ;-) I identify so much with Henry's transparent nostalgia for the old days. You should have seen me insisting that Catgirl stand out in the middle of Laurel Canyon Blvd. at midnight last month to get a shot of the famous Laurel Canyon Market. ;-D Kakki NP: Joni - BSN (Thanks to Mick for the incredibly fantastic post on the new album) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 19:15:36 +0000 From: Martin Giles Subject: BSN in the UK charts Hi folks, Just looked in this weeks UK album charts and BSN is in at number 50. It seems most people bought Oasis' new album instead. (Their album is called 'Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants', which I'm sure should be ShoulderS. Or do all these giants have but one shoulder between them?) Interesting chart this week. Santana, AC/DC and Steely Dan have all put new albums out this week also, all doing much better than Joni unfortunately. And Tracy Chapman's first album is in again. I've noticed that this album has had a constant presence in the 'mid-price' top ten for about a year and a half. Now it's been re-released at full price and it's in the main charts again. Ms. Chapman has done very well out of that one! atb, Martin. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:18:21 +1100 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: What kind of do are you? (NJC) I can't understand why people are posting the results of this test on the JMDL, especially when they are such boring dogs. I mean if they took the test and found out they were something really cute and cuddly I could understand ;-) Burnese Mountain Dog Hawley Beach Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:20:31 -0000 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: BSN, IMHO Gosh, it could have been me writing this, were I able! I listened to it again last night twice over and in some places it felt like my whole body was resonating like a tuning fork (unassisted, I might add :-)). Take a listen again to the part in Stormy Weather when she sings ....'and walk in the sunlight, once more'. A defining 'God moment'......imo. Her voice on this record is just sublime for me. Les (London) - -----Original Message----- From: micks.mail@cwcom.net [mailto:micks.mail@cwcom.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 17:45 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: BSN, IMHO I've played it now about 15 times since I got it last Thursday so feel confident I can stand by this mail in spite of the fact that it will appear that I've gone off on one. But I love her, so:- .....edit. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 13:17:21 +0000 From: mick Subject: Re: How Percy Meisel fails I haven't read the Joni Mitchell Companion nor Percy Meisel's article (yet) and I may be rushing in but did he really say that Joni may have latent anality? I don't wish to be rude but...no, I can't...but...now stop yourself Mick, you know you can be a twat yourself...but... and what do you know about the rigours of life as an academic...but...now just calm down, he must have had his reasons...but...perhaps he just made a mistake and got it the wrong way round! Thanks for the post Mike and all strength to you. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:20:42 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: #32 on the Top 100 of all time (md) NJC Well, if you're running and ducking for cover Mark, I'm jogging right alongside ye! :~) The Police were a breath of fresh air in the late seventies/early eighties. Their sound was unique at a time when conformity ruled. The songs ranged from blistering punk like "Landlord" to the tender touch of "Wrapped Around Your Finger", and has anyone else written love songs to an inflatable doll? ("Be My Girl Sally", which is exquisitely hilarious). They tackled larger issues as well, with songs like "Invisible Sun" & "One World is Enough", and could pop out a hit like nobody's business, even throwing in references to Nabokov and other writers/philosophers. The thing I admire most about the band is that they quit at the top of their game - they had a HUGE hit with Synchronicity, and instead of slogging on and trying to top it or even recreate it, they split to follow their respective muses. A lot of that 80's stuff may sound dated now, but not theirs! Incidentally, Joni was a huge Police fan too, besides admitting it, just give a listen to 'Shiny Toys'... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:11:57 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: re: Confounding Expectations Oh for cryin' out loud! I am SOOOO mad that I can't go out and buy the darn CD! Why do WE have to wait so long for the regular edition? I feel like the only kid on the block who hasn't heard BSN yet... Petulantly yours... - --- Dmascall@aol.com wrote: > Paul Castle" wrote "All the UK > reviews I've seen so far > have been really positive....." > > Paul - I'm willing to have my expectations > confounded (and often do) but I > have this sneaky feeling that the "lounge" scene (if > I understand it > correctly and it still exists ) and the general yen > for retro song styles > could just give Joni a commercial success in the UK > with BSN. Like the Time > Out reviewer I'm also coming to the conclusion that > BSN is ...well.... a > classic, for want of a better word. I'm hooked.. > > David Mascall > ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca (the former cateri@hotmail) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:28:32 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Joni/James <> Jim, I thought I had read from Simon that what was given on Tape Tree #2 WAS in fact the complete show with the James solo stuff, the Joni solo stuff, and the duets...do you know specifics on what that Tape Tree is missing? Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:07:55 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Not still on my feet I need help. I've just finished listening to the new version ACOY for something like the 20th time this week and have to say, Joni, that although you may still be on your feet at the end of it, I most certainly, am not. I'm an emotional wreck who usually has to have a lie down for a few minutes to recover. It can't be good for me - I shall have to start listening to something else! Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:40:56 -0500 From: "Robert Paterson" Subject: Rosie O mentions "Both Sides Now" Hello all: Probably get a lot of posts about this, but thought I'd mention that Rosie O'Donnell mentioned the new Joni album today ( Wednesday) at the beginning of her show. She said that she'd gotten an advanced copy of the new CD ( which she didn't mention by name) and that she put it on last night because there wasn't anything but stupid election coverage on TV. She got somewhat emotional about the CD and said that it made her cry. I think she used the word beautiful... but I don't remember hearing the word "lush"... which seems to be the word everyone else uses. Anyway, it was a nice review and plug for the CD... and maybe Rosie will have Joni on the show again... thought hopefully this time she will not offer Joni an "Altoids". Since I don't post that often, let me also take this opportunity to mention a nice place to hear the new "Both Sides Now" on the radio... on now streaming on the net. Long time DJ Jonathan Schwartz (sp?) is now on the air on WNYC-FM New York on Saturday and Sunday afternoons. He plays a lot of cabaret singer type stuff... and a wide range of other things... and I have heard him play cuts from the new "Both Sides Now". You can hear it at www.wnyc.org . If you live in a place without a decent radio station, this is a good one, with both an AM and FM side. Lots of stuff worth listening to. And of course, in the NYC area, WNYC-FM is 93.9, and WNYC-AM is 82. Bob Paterson ( bobpaterson@dellent.com ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:06:07 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Janis Ian (NJC) I know there are some Janis fans on the list...I just got this from Windham Hill: In celebration of Janis' 17th album god & the fbi, Windham Hill is offering you the chance to win an AIWA Digital Audio System! Historically, the number 17 has been significant to Janis due to the teenage unrest anthem "At Seventeen" when she became recognized as a Grammy award winning artist. Just click on http://www.godandthefbi.com to enter to win the AIWA Digital Audio System, preorder god & the fbi, listen to sound samples, and more! Pre-order god & the fbi today and receive an autographed CD booklet. Hurry, supplies are limited! ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:47:14 -0500 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Confounding Expectations Catherine catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca wrote >Oh for cryin' out loud! I am SOOOO mad that I can't >go out and buy the darn CD! Why do WE have to wait so >long for the regular edition? I feel like the only >kid on the block who hasn't heard BSN yet... >Petulantly yours... Catherine, I know just how you feel! I'm starting to feel pretty petulant about Stacey's 'JM Companion'. Everyone's been raving on about this for months and yet there's not a sign of it over here. I've dropped into Helter Skelter, the specialist music bookshop in Denmark Street, on several occasions now. I could bore for England on what they've said on each occasion but just now they've confirmed that it has been published in the States (" No! Really?!!") BUT it is currently out of stock. Oh well. Good news for Stacey, at least. Maybe they'll spell her name right in the next pressing (if there is one!!). Hrrmphing PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:02:55 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Rosie O mentions "Both Sides Now" - --- Robert Paterson wrote: > Hello all: > Probably get a lot of posts about this, but > thought I'd > mention that Rosie O'Donnell mentioned the new Joni > album today ( Wednesday) at the beginning of her > show. > She said that she'd gotten an advanced copy of the > new > CD ( which she didn't mention by name) and that she > put > it on last night because there wasn't anything but > stupid > election coverage on TV. She got somewhat emotional > about > the CD and said that it made her cry. I think she > used the > word beautiful... but I don't remember hearing the > word > "lush"... which seems to be the word everyone else > uses. > > Anyway, it was a nice review and plug for the > CD... Well, that's it - if Rosie said those things, BSN is on its way to number 1 on the charts, with a bullet! People will be dukin' it out in the aisles of the local record stores, bashing one another over the head, clawing their way over each other's mangled corpses to get their copy first! (Good for Rosie!) ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca (the former cateri@hotmail) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:57:54 -0600 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Lahm on Joni HI David- I hope we are getting a taste of the NEW stuff in May. Can't wait to hear the new record! My suggestion for a title is: (And the) Lahm Lies Down More Takes On Joni Mitchell The Essential Lahm Takes On Joni Mitchell Lahm and Folks Jazz Perspectives on Joni Mitchell Also, this just in! I talked to Jason Marsalis (Drummer Los Hombres Calientes) just before Mardi Gras last week and he is agreed to play with his band for JoniFest2000 in New Orleans May 28, 2000. So it looks like will have a couple different jazz perspectives on Joni Mitchell for our show. Cheers Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:40:24 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: Joni's Jazz Sequel Howzabout 'B' Sides Now, a collection of rare singles stuff. - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:45:58 PST From: "Raffaele Malanga" Subject: BSN in TimeOut In this week's TimeOut UK magazine, BSN features as first entry in the Critics' Choice music section. The small review reads: 'Mitchell - whose voice has never sounded better - is accompanied by a 70-piece big band for a beautifully realised set of classic twentieth century love songs' Raffaele, in London ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 13:17:20 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: What kind of do are you? (NJC) Taking time from my Ash Wednesday meditations to say, the only real dog is a Samoyed. The American Kennel Club states that the Samoyed is the most bred true from the primal dog... and the golden anniversary edition AKC book pointed out that Sammies are the most beautiful breed in existence, but that was removed from the subsequent editions due to the howls of the owners of lesser breeds. For a combination Samoyed and religious moment on this Ash Wednesday, please check out Tommy the Church Dog at http://www.pathwaynet.com.stmatthias and note: Tommy is also a major Joni and Janis Joplin fan, and will dance (but not on Ash Wednesday) to their music, although he found the phrase Dog Eat Dog to be rather bothersome, figuring that dogs treat people with far more respect than people treat people... and that is our Ash Wednesday meditation... (the Rev) Vince Alan Lorimer wrote: > I can't understand why people are posting the results of this test on the > JMDL, especially when they are such boring dogs. I mean if they took the > test and found out they were something really cute and cuddly I could > understand ;-) > > Burnese Mountain Dog > Hawley Beach > Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:50:28 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: IWD Joni Mitchell Segment..]] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------16A967D661BB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This just in from a friend of mine at WMNF. I'll tape it. Hope there are some rarities. Jerry - --------------16A967D661BB Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from 131.247.140.14 (kurelik [131.247.140.14]) by bayflash.stpt.usf.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA08830 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:39:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38C71BDE.635E@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 23:34:54 -0400 From: deborah kurelik Reply-To: kurelik@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu Organization: University of South Florida X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: [Fwd: IWD Joni Mitchell Segment..] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from hendrix.wmnf.org (adsl-358-01.bvi3-csr1.tpa.fl.verio.net [157.238.13.66] (may be forged)) by bayflash.stpt.usf.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01196 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:07:42 -0500 (EST) From: Dennis1203@aol.com Received: by HENDRIX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:08:45 -0500 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.42]) by hendrix.wmnf.org with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id FRPYCN3G; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:08:31 -0500 Received: from Dennis1203@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id 6.5a.23975bb (4333) for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:08:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5a.23975bb.25f72c2d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:08:13 EST Subject: IWD Joni Mitchell Segment.. To: everyone@wmnf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hey Everyone... Dennis here...Arlene has asked that I do an extra hour at 2am before the Dream Clinic Special IWD program....which will start at 3am til 6am....so I will present some great music from my favorite female singer/artist from my gen and to current....Joni Mitchell of course...:) For one hour 2am to 3am...I will play some live material that I have never played or brought in to WMNF....from 1972 Paris...1968 Hudson River Festival...a duet with Pete Seeger on Both Sides Now...Joni in London 1973....Joni with CSNY 1974.....etc. Please tell your friends to set their tapes accordingly...(yes...I know its a difficult slot to catch...and if you can accomplish the taping...it makes for a nice weekend listen..:) Thanks...Dennis - --------------16A967D661BB-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:52:57 -0500 From: "Carver, Dax" Subject: Finally got it! and Miami Beach question Hi all, I finally got BSN today. I'm going to go home promptly after work and put it in the player. I was getting anxious and am so glad it's here! Also, I have a question. I went to South Beach, Miami, Florida over the weekend and I was in the same area (I think) that the song from DJRD, OTIS AND MARLENA takes place. I loved South Beach. I was wondering if anybody knew what was going on at the time to prompt Joni to say "As Muslims stuck up Washington?" Is she talking about Washington D.C. or the street Washington Avenue in South Beach? If anybody knows the answer I'd be much appreciative. thanks Dax Carver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 18:56:27 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: What kind of do are you? (NJC) Vince Lavieri wrote: > Taking time from my Ash Wednesday meditations to say, > the only real dog is a Samoyed. Reverand or not, I am going to take issue with you on this one!The Lhasa Apso is a far superior dog. It is one of the oldest known breeds, with a history going back 3000 years to our knowledge. They come from the Himalayan mountains where they developed on their own more or less. They are hardy strong and surprisingly heavy. They have good characters also. Of course, they have been changed almost beyobd recognition is the States, tho there are a few breeders who still know what a Lhasa Apso is and breed accordingly. The second best dog is the American Cocker Spaniel. So, Mr Reverand, you may have third place. I am magnanimous like that. > > > The American Kennel Club states that the Samoyed is the most bred true from > the primal dog... and the golden anniversary edition AKC book pointed out > that Sammies are the most beautiful breed in existence, but that was removed > from the subsequent editions due to the howls of the owners of lesser > breeds. > > For a combination Samoyed and religious moment on this Ash Wednesday, please > check out Tommy the Church Dog at http://www.pathwaynet.com.stmatthias > > and note: Tommy is also a major Joni and Janis Joplin fan, and will dance > (but not on Ash Wednesday) to their music, although he found the phrase Dog > Eat Dog to be rather bothersome, figuring that dogs treat people with far > more respect than people treat people... and that is our Ash Wednesday > meditation... > > (the Rev) Vince > > Alan Lorimer wrote: > > > I can't understand why people are posting the results of this test on the > > JMDL, especially when they are such boring dogs. I mean if they took the > > test and found out they were something really cute and cuddly I could > > understand ;-) > > > > Burnese Mountain Dog > > Hawley Beach > > Tasmania - -- To change the world-change your self "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 18:58:30 +0000 From: catman Subject: BSN I've had mine a few days. The artwork I really like. The music too is good to my ear. As for the voice, well, I'll leave that one alone..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:09:23 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Finally got it! and Miami Beach question Carver, Dax wrote: I loved South Beach. I was wondering if anybody > knew what was going on at the time to prompt Joni to say "As Muslims stuck > up Washington?" Is she talking about Washington D.C. or the street > Washington Avenue in South Beach? If anybody knows the answer I'd be much > appreciative. South Beach is great. I've always thought she was alluding to a combination of things: Hostage takover, terrorism, and OPEC. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:12:23 -0500 From: "Amy" Subject: joni moment on rosie... Hello all...just a quick note to say that Rosie O'Donnell mentioned Joni today on her show during host chat...she started to say that she had put the new CD in for a listen last night and how she loved it etc. She seemed to be really excited about the project, then she got off on a tangent with the election and never seemed to finish her thoughts on BSN. I was hoping that she would say that Joni will be on the show...anyone heard anything about any TV appearances? Hoping all of you are well... Amy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 19:33:34 +0000 From: Martin Giles Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) SC Bob has his creative hat on... > I envision the whole marketing concept; the cover superimposes David's head on Arnold > Schwarzenegger's bod as "The Lahminator"... His catch phrase would of course be, "I'll be-bop". atb, Martin. In London. PS What about JAZZ TAKES TWO JONI MITCHELL ?? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:46:27 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Finally got it! and Miami Beach question - --- "Carver, Dax" wrote: > I went to South Beach, Miami, Florida over the > weekend and I was in the same area (I think) that the song from DJRD, OTIS > AND MARLENA takes place. I loved South Beach. I was wondering if anybody > knew what was going on at the time to prompt Joni to say "As Muslims stuck > up Washington?" Is she talking about Washington D.C. or the street > Washington Avenue in South Beach? If anybody knows the answer I'd be much > appreciative. I believe she refers to the incident in the 70's when a group of Hanafi Muslims took hostages at the headquarters of B'nai Brith in Washington DC Brian, back to the dungeon after a Chinese lunch np: BSNLE (for the umteenth time. It's like a magnet that keeps drawing me back) ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:47:21 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: FW: #32 on the Top 100 Stevie and Joni (SJC) In a message dated 3/8/00 2:05:32 AM, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >Joni's "My Top 12" is available on cassette for anybody who missed it and wants >it for their very own - it's definitely worth having What are the 12? - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:58:07 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: FW: #32 on the Top 100 Stevie and Joni (SJC) Bob said: > >Joni's "My Top 12" is available on cassette for anybody who missed it and > wants it for their very own - it's definitely worth having Fred asked: > What are the 12? Edith Piaf - Les Trois Cloches Joni - Speechless (excerpt) Little Richard - Lucille Lambert Hendricks and Ross - Cloudburst Bob Dylan - Memphis Blues Again Laura Nyro - Captain For Dark Mornings Miles Davis - Nefertiti Burundi Drums - used in Jungle Line Steely Dan - Gaucho Peter Gabriel - I Have The Touch Stravinski - Rites of Spring (introduction) Brian, really going back to the dungeon now ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:59:23 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: FW: #32 on the Top 100 Stevie and Joni (SJC) oops Sorry - I missed one After Gaucho: Stevie Wonder - That Girl (and no, it's *not* Marlo Thomas) Brian ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:14:47 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Diltz I agree.....Henry and Kakki to be the tour guides ..........but I get to ride in Henry's car!!! :-) Laura Caught the Henry Diltz special on the Learning Channel Saturday. I nominate Henry and Kakki to be the tour guides on the LA jmdl tour busses..."on your left we have Joni's Lookout Mountain Road home, famous as "Our House", where she lived from..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:39:49 PST From: "David" Subject: WARNING DELETE PRETTYPARK Hello, If a file comes to you entitled Prettypark, please delete it. I think there is no risk of it getting to you as I deleted the file without opening it, still I am sending you this warning just in case the virus did get to you. Thank You David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 18:37:53 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: joni moment on rosie... I think it is a big mistake of promoting too early. Many will go out to seek BSN and find it unavailable for weeks. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:38:41 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Thanks everyone/The Sire of Sorrow From: "Garret McDermott" Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:32:33 -0000 Just wanted to say a big fat thank you to everyone that has made me feel welcome to the list! "GO RAIBH MAITH AGAT" as we say in Ireland!! What a headache of a week I've had trying to sort out my passport (ok, so it was foolish to put it through the washing machine in the first place). I am trying to get approval for a work visa for the United States, and the consular wishes to see my passport! I came home yesterday, after having been in and out of the passport office all day, to listen to TI and found myself fully relaxed by Last Chance Lost. I'm one of these people that always reads the lyrics when listening to music, I remembered that someone commented on the poetic nature of The Sire of Sorrow recently, well, I echo his sentiments. I read a lot of poetry and tend to be prejudiced against songs with bad lyrics, and have almost always been impressed by JM's lyrics, but Sire of Sorrow went one further. It stayed in my head for all of the day. So, there is my point, it is a great song. I consider Gerard Manley Hopkins the best (most talented? my favourite?) poet that I've read, and this song reminded to me to a degree of his poetry. I'm off now to Amazon.com to order the JM Companion. GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:43:52 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Jazz Sequel Michael, thanks for "More Sides Now." I don't know if you're old enough to remember when "side" was slang for "record album." (Those were the vinyl days, of course.) Without her name in it, the title won't really help arouse the interest of people who know JM, but don't know jazz or me. That's the way we're thinking of the situation now. DL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:46:27 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: How Percy Meisel fails Before this "Percy" stuff goes too far, could we restore his correct first name? It's Perry. (Believe me, I'm no big fan) DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:08:30 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (njc) "Jazz On Joni" which is really, really lewd if you know the derivation of the word "jazz". Not lewd at all if you don't.:) All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati, Ohio, USA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 02:05:38 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: BSN catman wrote: > I've had mine a few days. The artwork I really like. The music too is good > to my ear. As for the voice, well, I'll leave that one alone..... Hahahaha. Well, I got my copy yesterday (only £12.99 in MVC) but I'm not *quite* ready to play it yet....probably tomorrow :-) I definitely agree with Colin on the artwork. It's lovely, really classy. I've already scanned the CD sleeve and included it on my Genius Of Joni page. I have also altered the background colour schemes to this page and all the others. The Joni page is now a peachy colour on terracota/brown. Anyway, the BSN cover looks really good on there :-) I've been quiet on here lately, simply because I've been trying to delete some of the 9,500 e-mails that had accumulated in my inbox :o) It's now down to a far more managable 1,500 Jason. THE SLIPSTREAM : http://www.the-slipstream.co.uk 35 years of Music, over 400 Films, 60 DVDs, Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Premiership Football, Football Fantasy League, The Genius Of Joni Mitchell. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:37:40 +1300 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: BSN Review on Muse Mariana posted this: >The following review appeared on http://www.muse.ie/ What a great review! But the line that I love is at the end "One for the wine bar of your heart." Sums up my sentiments exactly! Hell _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:44:29 +1300 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Elton John/Sting NJC Mark (ducking and running for cover) wrote: >Say what you like about Sting >but the man can write a good song. Personally I could never see what >was so great about Elton. Nice, fun music, yes. Plays the piano & >sings pretty good but the songs just never got to me. You can hide behind me if you like! I've never liked Elton John, at any stage of his career. There's a couple of songs that I find "OK" but I'd never buy an album. I've always found him profoundly irritating! I do like Sting and The Police, though. Hell _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:48:09 +1300 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Confounding Expectations Catherine petulantly wrote: >Oh for cryin' out loud! I am SOOOO mad that I can't >go out and buy the darn CD! Why do WE have to wait so >long for the regular edition? I feel like the only >kid on the block who hasn't heard BSN yet... Which is precisely why I bought the Limited Edition, even though it was incredibly extravagant for someone trying to save money! But I knew I couldn't stand reading the reviews and comments without going mad (and it was definitely worth it)! I'm having the same problem on the Lee Shore (CSN discussion list) reading all the reviews of the concert tour, knowing they almost certainly won't make it down here. It's making me very cranky! Hell _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 23:46:04 EST From: AngelinoCoyote@aol.com Subject: Introducing Myself (SJC) Hay to Everyone on the JMDL: Okay, it's time for me to come out of the closet. I have formerly appeared on the list as RickyRacer and Richard in Hollywood, ashamed of my Joni-inspired nickname. Gonna come clean with my new found friends in electronic space. Several years ago, around the time of the song begetting my nickname, I was furiously dating a musician from Laguna Beach. Our passion was ignited by Joni. I walked into a sleazy bar in Laguna one night. A place frequented by those somewhat long and in the tooth and usually quite a ways down into their bottles. Run by a butch bull dyke, and a mean-spirited former sailor, they encouraged those with too much money and too weak of soul to say no to frequent the joint. Lecherous fools, enamored with the broke piano player. I found my gorgeous blonde Texan singing People's Parties in lieu of New York, New York or Send in the Clowns. The cloudy-minded crowd was oblivious to the rarity of hearing such beautiful music and pelted Billy with requests for some real scary stuff. Occasionally, he teased them with some of it, yet, this time stared at me as he picked his next tune - Creepin', originated, I think by Stevie Wonder. Much to the disdain of the inebriated ones. He and I lived on opposite ends of the spectrum of life, yet fell passionately in love. I was 22 and showed Appaloosa horses for a living, surfing part time and living with my trainer in Laguna Canyon. He was 26 and sang good music in bad places late into the night. As a cheap confession, I admit to you some 22 year old misbehavior on my part. Misbehavior I had no idea he had discovered. On cue, some six months of sleepless nights later, Joni released Hijera. Droopy eyed from being up since 5AM, I entered the piano bar one night at 11PM at just the right time. He had developed his version of Coyote and sang it with more than some passion. At the end of the set, he said something to me like "I get off just up the road." I was confused, and he told me to go to Laguna Music the next day and buy Hejira, an album I didn't know existed. I bought it the next day and the song Coyote slapped me in the face. A few letters exchanged, a few tears were shed, but it was clear we were through. After some time, we found our way to friendship and stayed as such until his early death about three years ago. He called me Coyote, and it caught on. I never have intentionally listened to Hejira again. Joni has somewhere, somehow found her way into all of my relationships. Those before or since. Not just by *my* finding a place for her in these private times, but by the objects of my affection placing her somewhere between us. I have always sought a relationship with a man holding no tolerance for our Ms. Mitchell, only to be disappointed in the end. Sorry for the long post. It's a bittersweet story I have never told anyone, fearing no one would understand. When asked how I got my strangely beloved nickname of Coyote, I would always smile and say it was given to me by a good friend. Billy was my first true love and when I am called that today, I feel 22 and so in love again. Thanks for that, Joni. No regrets, Coyote Casa Alegre Hollywood, California Only fools are afraid to be burned by fire. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 23:54:10 EST From: AngelinoCoyote@aol.com Subject: re: Confounding Expectations David Mascall wrote: I'm willing to have my expectations confounded (and often do) but I have this sneaky feeling that the "lounge" scene (if I understand it correctly and it still exists) and the general yen for retro song styles could just give Joni a commercial success in the UK with BSN. Coyote Responds: I think the Lounge Scene is alive and well, albeit not as fruitfully as it was some four years ago, but it still lives here at Casa Alegre. I think of the Lounge Scene more in the music of Louis Prima and the like. I did find a couple of renditions of Stormy Weather in my collection of twelve or so lounge CDs, but that was it from BSN. The Lounge music I have has a lot more camp than one will find on BSN. Hey Bellboy! No regrets, Coyote Casa Alegre Hollywood, California Only fools are afraid to be burned by fire. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:00:36 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Cricket - sorry, very NJC Hi Hell- My belated congrats go out to all Kiwis on the mighty America's Cup victory. It helps to keep your crew members from cleaning the keel and bleeding from the head during the races! I hope the Italians have learned something this year! As for America.... well maybe we'll get the Cup back next year! All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:01:21 EST From: AngelinoCoyote@aol.com Subject: re: joni moment on rosie... Amy wrote: I was hoping that she would say that Joni will be on the show...anyone heard anything about any TV appearances? Coyote responds: Amy, I checked with a friend of mine who works for Rosie and he said she is not yet on the guest list, but that Rosie is a BIG fan. I recall Joni on Rosie the day after Thanksgiving some three or four years ago. She was promoting TT or maybe TI, can't remember. She was in bad shape with some throat infection and Rosie gave her lozenges - I read somewhere (maybe the Vanity Fair valentine piece) that Joni didn't even know who Rosie was before that appearance. I remember being disappointed with Rosie for not getting more good stuff out of JM, but chalked it up to JM not feeling well. No regrets, Coyote Casa Alegre Hollywood, California Only fools are afraid to be burned by fire. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:07:01 EST From: AngelinoCoyote@aol.com Subject: Re: Julia Fordham (NJC) Kakki Wrote: One of my favorite songs and one of my favorite artists. This one's for you, Don. I broke a date to finally get to see her for the first time tonight at the little Largo club here. She is astounding - 1000% better live than on record and that is rare. I planted myself at the bar and immediately noticed Larry Klein dining alone a few feet away and then he disappeared. Right before she came on stage, I ran outside for a last cigarette and saw Klein coming up the sidewalk. I addressed him as (swear to God) *Mr.* Klein (the Peter Erskine "incident" has made me more formal these days, ahem) and congratulated him on the BSN album and gave him my best. He was very kind and shook my hand and thanked me. I was tempted to ask for an autograph for the *other* Larry Klein but got too shy ;-) Coyote Responds: Kakki, thanks for this post. I am a huge fan of Julia's and am damn mad at myself for missing this local show. My other half and I have adopted her song "Your Lovely Face" from Porcelain as a very, very special song to us, reminding us of our early days together eight years ago. Thanks, again. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 22:08:11 -0800 From: "rick novosel" Subject: Re: Introducing Myself (NJC) Coyote wrote >It's a bittersweet story I have never told anyone, > fearing no one would understand. I'm sure a lot of people on this list will understand or at least appreciate your great story. To be able to throw your feelings out to the world in this forum without fear (for the most part) of censure or ridicule is what makes the JMDL so amazing. (Okay so I know sometimes tempers flare but we're mostly all still here, right?) All good things Rick ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #132 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?