From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #50 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Thursday, January 27 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 050 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- will oldman/palace NJC [Wolfebite@aol.com] The James Rivers Movement (SJC) [Michael Paz ] Strane Timing (njc) [Michael Paz ] NJC: Re: Audience Participation ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: live vs. studio [NJC] [Randy Remote ] Buying Both Sides Now from Reprise Records ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Wally's Letter; request [Emily Kirk Gray ] Rough Trade (njc) [evian ] After just reading Wally's letter... [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Re: BSN ["Eric Taylor" ] A Happy Memory [Leslie Mixon ] Re: most depressing song(NJC) [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: BSN [FredNow@aol.com] CSNY 1st gig setlist (SJC) [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: live vs. Studio (NJC) ["Alan Lorimer" ] Re: OOOPs! (NJC) ["Alan Lorimer" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:40:53 EST From: Wolfebite@aol.com Subject: will oldman/palace NJC hey list so at work i heard this tape someone was playing- will oldman's "bonnie 'prince' billie"- and it stopped me dead in my tracks- even over the hum of the supersize industrial warehouse heater and the workman sawing cinderblocks. the album sounded beautiful! anyone else and fan? recommendations? it was one of those- "i have to get this right now" moments. doug np: 'bright phoebus'/watersons- courtesy of DWRIGHT & RJORDAN WHEW HEW!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:53:52 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: The James Rivers Movement (SJC) Ashara wrote: " My 16 year old asked me today if I knew of any "jazz bagpipe" artists. I didn't, but I thought I might ask about 600 of my nearest and dearest friends if they knew of anything like this. ;-)" Ashara Dear, Check out the James Rivers Movement from none other than New Orleans. He has been a couple of Clint Eastwood movies and done music for the movies. He plays a mean bagpipe, I may have video footage of such on JukeBox. As you know Clint is Kyles ... and Kyle Joni Larry... I also went to high school in the Blue Ridge Mountains of NC, what a glorious place. Love, Paz NP-Comes Love (nothing can be done) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:54:09 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: New Tape Trees (NJC) AsharaJM@aol.com wrote: > > John asked on Rich's behalf: > > <<"When is the Joni breathing Tape Tree is coming out?" and my fave, "When > are they releasing the Joni Sea Chanties?' > > Bob? Ashara? Jim?>> > > I can tell you only if you swear to secrecy..... The breathing tape will be > out on Video Tree #42, and the Joni Sea Chanties is slated for Video Tree > #687. Always glad to be of service. > > Hugs, > Ashara That's great 'cause the Joni farting tape tree is one of my favorites. RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:59:35 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Strane Timing (njc) Leslie wrote: "Since this topic is lingering, how about Richard Thompson's "I'll Be Taking My Business Elsewhere" or Billie Holiday's, "Strange Fruit."" Leslie- Third time today I have heard somebody mention this song. How Strange! I heard Time Mag Mag had this as #1 song of the century. JUst a rumor I heard today. Great tune! BTW Lahm is back, drop him a note. I bet you and he could burn that fruit up. Love and Hugs, Paz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:03:23 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC: Re: Audience Participation The ultimate audience participation comes at the end of the live version of "Satellite" by Dave Matthews. The album features Tim Reynolds and is entitled "Live At Luther College". Anyway, at the end of Satellite the audience just holds its collective breath for several moments then breaks out in thunderous cheering and applause. Joseph Palis said: > I think the spontaneity of applause sounds > more genuine and exhilarating beyond words. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:21:16 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: live vs. studio [NJC] Another great live album is John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band "Live Peace In Toronto" CaTGirl627@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/26/2000 10:47:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, > SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > > << And being the slut I am I'll admit to: > > "Frampton Comes Alive" > > Bob > >> > I think everyone in the free world had the lp in 1976. Like they said in "Wayne's World", in the suburbs it was issued by the post office ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:26:22 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Buying Both Sides Now from Reprise Records You can order the soon-to-be-released collector's edition of "Both Sides Now" from Reprise directly. Click through the slide show that starts on: http://www.repriserec.com/jonimitchell/index2.html My initial thought was to buy from my local electronics store but tonight I was ceased by fear that it will sell out. Probably a silly notion given Joni's track record, right? :-D All the best, Jim ** Get well, Wally!!** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:51:27 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: The new "Both Sides Now" hits the air in New York City NYC Bob wrote: <> Wonderful, wonderful!!!! (even though I'm so jealous I can't see straight ;-) The radio station in Portland OR (KINK), that I know will be playing her, hasn't gotten it yet. But they've been priming everybody for Joni's BSN for awhile now. Geez, they've been playing Steely Dan's new one for what seems like ages. I wonder why Reprise is taking so long to get BSN promos out? hmmm. Like the DJ you heard, maybe we're being teased into a frenzy! ;~) After all, it is a very romantic theme. Does anybody else get an little rush or sense of proud pleasure when our Joan get airplay? My kids are even like, "Mom, listen, that's auntie Joni on the radio!" ;-) And the anticipation for BSN continues to build...... Blessings, Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:00:26 -0600 From: evian Subject: live albums (njc) I as a rule don't care for live albums, but 10,000 Maniac's Unplugged (if that even counts as a live album) is now one of my desert island picks.... I find the unplugged versions are far superior to the studio versions... especially "Stockton Gala Days", one of my favorite songs ever. Gives me supreme chills everytime I hear it. I also love Talking Heads STOP MAKING SENSE, and, I mean, come on people, FM's THE DANCE has a far superior version of "Silver Springs" than the boxed set, and FM Live is worth the price alone for "Fireflies" and the 7 minute version of Rhiannon (ok, I'll quit on the Stevie content). Also, slut extrordinaire, Bobby, fessed up to the merits of Frampton Comes Alive.... Well buddy, we've been around the same block, because I find myself listening to it quite often, but that is probably the walk down memory lane more than anything. I am also anxiously awaiting the day that a live Cheryl Wheeler cd hits the streets...God I hope she releases a live album. Her songs on the video "Live at the Iron Horse" or whatever the hell it's called surpass the studio versions, which is no easy feat. How about the worst live album? I still say it has to be Pat Benetar's live album, I can't think of the name... Live From Earth or something.... She was screaming worse than Wendy O. Williams. Evian -- Counting down until the Feb. 28th release of the Bridget Jones Diary sequel... pre-order now, peoples! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:58:31 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Kirk Gray Subject: Wally's Letter; request hi everyone i have a request -- could someone copy and paste the letter from wally that's up on the site and send it to me? privately, if you wish -- or maybe someone could just post it to the list? it's irritating, i know...i wonder if i'm the only one with email but no internet access...(and my friends with office jobs are SO sick and tired of my "can you just check one thing for me on the joni web site?" emails) thanks in advance i appreciate it! - -- emily NP: quiet brooklyn neighborhoody sounds...time for bed! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:05:11 -0600 From: evian Subject: Rough Trade (njc) Andy, Jimmy, and whoever else likes Rough Trade, Just thought I'd tell you that there is a Rough Trade Greatest Hits available here I just found at the Columbia House Canada site. If you want it and can't get it outside of Canada, let me know. Evian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 01:05:29 EST From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: After just reading Wally's letter... Through the lump in my throat, the pounding of my heart, and the tears welling in my eyes, I would like to Welcome Jim as the new CEO of the Joni Mitchell Homepage, and to offer any support that I can muster up, at any time needed, even now, and Wally can rest peacefuly knowing Jim's effort is a total extention of his love and good judgement concerning all things " Joni ". Love from, Mingus NP "A Chair in the sky" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 01:58:10 -0800 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: BSN Catman opined: << I am dreading this release really. I just can't imagine Joni being able to sing these songs. I don't see Joni as a singer, rather as a songwriter at which she excels. maybe years ago she could sing but judging my TTT and PWWAM she can't anymore. Not that it matters. The last time she sang and sounded like she could was on WTRF, IMO. To me certainly on NRH TI and TTT her voice really suits the work. I just can't imagine her singing singers songs. >> I removed NJC from the subject line because this is definitely JC IMO. Catman has shared this sorry sentiment before & I can't disagree more! Like most great singers Joni's voice has become richer & subtler over the years. When I listen to Judy or Barbra or Joni in their early years the pure perfection of the singing can actually get on my nerves after a while. Especially Barbra! I have friends who can't tolerate Joni's early soprano but get into her later works. To me Joni's voice sounds best on Turbulent Indigo (Last Chance Lost in particular). The silky edge & feeling phrasing of her recent vocals surpasses Billie Holliday's entire career! & if Comes Love from PWWAM is any indication, BSN will be up there with Barbra's Broadway, Carly's Torch & Judy's Carnegie Hall comeback. Since you also don't like Mingus, Catman, perhaps it's not Joni's voice that you don't like. I suspect you just don't have an ear for great jazz. ;~* E.T. NP: Last Chance Lost P.S. As this was playing my partner June stuck her head in the door & said: *Now those are the songs of her's I like.* BTW, June considers Joni's pre-Hejira albums *country music.* __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:06:33 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: A Happy Memory A few days ago I posted about hearing Rickie Lee Jones' voice on a TV commerical about Kotex. With the recent full red moon, I thought I'd continue the menstrual thread. One Sunday afternoon, Wally Breese, my husband Steve, and I were sitting in the Caffe Trieste in North Beach, San Francisco. I said to the guys, "Hey it's Paul Kantner sitting at the next table. Why don't you ask him if he'd like to be interviewed for JM.com." Wally didn't want to intrude so I decided to eavesdrop. Kantner was holding court at the table, telling a story about how the Tampax Co. asked permission to use a Jefferson Airplane song in a TV commercial. He never indicated which song - let's not even go there with "White Rabbit." We enjoyed ourselves watching Kantner hanging out with the locals and laughing. Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 02:33:16 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: most depressing song(NJC) "For All We Know" Donny Hathaway - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 02:49:37 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: BSN catman wrote: >>I am dreading >>this release really. I just can't imagine Joni being able to sing >>these songs. I don't see Joni as a singer, rather as a songwriter at >>which she excels. maybe years ago she could sing but judging my TTT >>and PWWAM she can't anymore. Not that it matters. The last time she >>sang and sounded like she could was on WTRF, IMO. To me certainly on >>NRH TI and TTT her voice really suits the work. I just can't imagine >>her singing singers songs. Wow, Catman, I have just about the opposite expectation. I eagerly await BSN because, and it really gives me no pleasure whatsoever to say this, I don't think Joni is writing anywhere near as well as she once did ... I'm sorry, I know this is heresy, bordering on blasphemy. On the other hand, I think she has become a first rate jazz singer as evidenced by her performance on Herbie Hancock's album, Gershwin's World. I'd rather hear her sing some really great songs, including hers, than the unmemorable stuff she's been writing. I'm sorry ... I really am ... I feel somehow horrible for having admitted this. The thing is, this doesn't diminish my love and admiration for her earlier work in the least. In my canon, her first nine studio albums assure her place as one of the bona fide geniuses of all time. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 02:57:23 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: CSNY 1st gig setlist (SJC) Detroit 1/24/00 Carry On Southern Man Stand And Be Counted Pre-Road Downs Heartland 49 Bye-Byes Slowpoke Marrakesh Express Faith In Me Almost Cut My Hair Cinnamon Girl intermission Helplessly Hoping Our House* Only Love Can Break Your Heart Dream For Him Someday Soon Looking Forward After The Goldrush Guinnevere Seen Enough Out Of Control Teach Your Children "7th Inning Stretch" Love The One You're With Long Time Gone Ohio For What It's Worth Down By The River Dark Star Rockin' In The Free World encores: Woodstock* Long May You Run ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:40:32 +1100 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: live vs. Studio (NJC) Don Rowe said >Color me crazy ... but it's mighty hard to beat >Deep Purple's "Made In Japan" for a live album ... It inspired me enough to put on 'Lazy' and recall Jon Lord's classic quote: "I think the sound of Deep Purple has a hell of a lot to do with my organ" Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Tasmania np: Deep Purple In Concert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:52:08 +1100 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: OOOPs! (NJC) Catman wrote: >Are things really getting so bad, a person can't make a mistake >anymore without risk of flame and having to genuflect? No, I sorry they can't ;-) Hmmm, first offence? *****ELECTROCUTION***** I've arranged for the Hydro (Tasmania) to send a 220,000 Volt pulse to Lindsay. He won't make that mistake again :-) Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Tasmania np: by the light of the black and charcoaled Moon ;-) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #50 **************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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