From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #24 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Friday, January 14 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 024 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: UK import duties (NJC) ["Alan Lorimer" ] Re: real good for free [M.Russell@iaea.org] 'BOTH SIDES NOW' Hows It Sound? [simon@icu.com] Re: real good for free [Martin Giles ] Re: real good for free [Martin Giles ] Tamanian Devil - Definitely NJC! ["Alan Lorimer" ] Got a job NJC [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: 2000 Purchases NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: TRIAD 2000 (NJC) [kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave)] anagram city (njc)(i suppose) [Janet Hess ] Hejira Guitars [Julian51469@aol.com] Hendricks and Ross Article (long) (NJC) ["Bill Dollinger" ] BSN website [SMEBD@aol.com] Re: BSN website ["Mark T. Domyancich" ] aimee mann NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: aimee mann NJC ["Bill Dollinger" ] Aimee Mann NJC ["Alison Einerson" ] RE: aimee mann NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] HOSL demos [Dmascall@aol.com] OKAY OKAY -- I'll buy it!!! [Don Rowe ] Re: Melissa story...NJC ["Ken (Slarty)" ] Re: OKAY OKAY -- I'll buy it!!! ["Ken (Slarty)" ] Re: UK import duties (NJC) ["Catherine McKay" ] in the garden? [Louis Lynch ] Re: BSN for the academic ["Catherine McKay" ] World Premiere of BSN Tune on 'Dawson's Creek' on 1/19 [JRMCo1@aol.com] RE: UK import duties (NJC) [Louis Lynch ] Re: population NJC ["Catherine McKay" ] RE: population NJC [Louis Lynch ] Re: population NJC ["Catherine McKay" ] RE: population NJC [Louis Lynch ] Re: World Premiere of BSN Tune on 'Dawson's Creek' on 1/19 [Don Rowe ] Re: Melissa story...NJC ["Catherine McKay" ] RE: UK import duties (NJC) ["Catherine McKay" ] BSN Premiere on "Creek ..." (ought to be NJC) [Don Rowe ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:48:20 +1100 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: UK import duties (NJC) Jacky It's only a guess, but I suspect you have to pay the VAT when you import goods like CD's into the UK. I can order CD's from Amazon.co.uk and they take the VAT *off* the price of the CD's when you order them from outside the UK! I would suggest that you use "coupons" and order the CD from Amazon. You could try to use one of the following: GREAT-PRESENT take $10 off a $25 order PRESENTS-4-ALL take $10 off a $25 order AMZNPRESENT2 take $10 off a $25 order No guarantees that these will all work, and remember that you can use these once only. Both Sides Now can be ordered for $44.95, International shipping is $5.95 for one CD. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:39:47 +0100 From: M.Russell@iaea.org Subject: Re: real good for free >I once recorded some bird song and then >played it back three octaves down on a >sampler, (one quarter speed), and it didn't >sound all pretty and sweet anymore, it had >transformed into a series of very intimidating >bellows and roars. The birds seemed to be >shouting, "GET OFF MY TURF BUSTER!" >Which is probably how it sounds to other >birds. ROTFL!!!! Wish I could help you with your question. Personally, I think Joni just finds tunings by chance, plays around with chord patterns and then hears/sings melodies that eventually become a new song. I think the music part of it is all very intuitive and sometimes accidental. With the Woodstock song, which uses the Moon At The Window tuning, I'm sure she was in that tuning playing around one day and started hearing a snippet of the Woodstock melody over a sequence of chord changes and then searched around to find other chords in that tuning that she could use to play the whole song. For Real Good For Free, you might want to try making the tuning minor to start with - try DADFAD. Good luck! Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:17:11 -0800 From: simon@icu.com Subject: 'BOTH SIDES NOW' Hows It Sound? in a recent message Robert Youngken writes ... >______________________________________________________________________ >Pardon me for turning the discussion of the upcoming CD away from >the fairly hefty price tag to something of even greater concern-does >anyone know if it is recorded in HDCD or regular (lousy) 16bit/44? >______________________________________________________________________ it's an HDCD release. for now ~ take care, - ------- simon - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:01:22 +0000 From: Martin Giles Subject: Re: real good for free M.Russell@iaea.org wrote: > > For Real Good For Free, you might want to try making the tuning minor to > start with - try DADFAD. Hi Marian. Yes you're right, D minor must be a good place to start. (That's actually the key it was written in originally wasn't it). But the tuning needs a twist to it to be truly Joniesque. I love it when She tunes adjacent strings only two or three semitones apart. Thanks for the advice - my guitar's going to get a bashin' this weekend! atb, Martin. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:19:50 +0000 From: Martin Giles Subject: Re: real good for free Scott Price replied to my overly cynical,"I know She's a hippy chick, but what key is a blackbird in?": > She does not have any concept of what key she's playing or > composing in... I'm rather ignorant about Joni in this respect. Is it really true that She doesn't know anything about the notes on the guitar, and theory of music? What happened, for instance, when Joni was working with Mingus? Didn't he write the music and She the words? How did Mingus convey his music to her? I know you can get a long way without 'formal' training, but it's difficult *not* to pick up some stuff, when surrounded by other musicians. Scott also said: > she'd describe to > Shorter that it was late at night, maybe raining outside, but they're > inside a smoky nightclub, women in evening gowns and men in coats and ties, > and "NOW play your sax with this in mind..." I can definitely see that - she's painting with words and music again. atb, Martin. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:29:32 +1100 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Tamanian Devil - Definitely NJC! A few members have made references to "Tasmanian Devils", so heres a link! http://www.tased.edu.au/tot/fauna/devil.html I'm sure Joni would love a few of these in her back yard. (Let me know if you want me to mail you one!) Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:47:04 -0000 From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Got a job NJC Dear Jonifriends Yesterday I was offered (and accepted) a theatre job at the Tricycle Theatre which means I will be leaving this travel agency job and hence un.subbing. Possibly permanently from the list. I am on digest at my hotmail address so I will be able to see what is going on to Joniland but it will be difficult! sob! Much Joni Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:10:14 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: 2000 Purchases NJC Joseph asks: <> I went to the corner record store last Friday trying to find something new...I wanted to get The Hang-Ups new one (produced by Mitch Easter so it's GOT to be good), but alas no luck. Since I've never walked out of a record store empty-handed, I picked up old stuff I hadn't upgraded to CD: The Replacements "Don't Tell A Soul" Marshall Tucker Band, "A New Life" The Stones, "Beggar's Banquet" Todd Rundgren, "Hermit of Mink Hollow" (Hi Patrick!) When I went to pay, the guy who was ringing me up asked his boss "Was Aimee Mann in a band before?" At least the manager knew about Til Tuesday... I thought to myself that the guy had his face pierced so much that some of his brains had maybe trickled out! Bob NP: JT, "Millworker" (brings back memories of Jonifest and Ashara's lovely version...Ashara, hope your Mom is doing well) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:27:01 -0500 (EST) From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) Subject: Re: TRIAD 2000 (NJC) Colin asked: >An NJC post! oh dear, Dave, what could >have happened? Hey, when in Rome, make like a Roman. gdave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:53:24 -0500 From: Janet Hess Subject: anagram city (njc)(i suppose) Pardons extended if this is just a silly replay, but... I just fed "Joni Mitchell" to the anagram finder at and got the list that follows. 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Hugz, Ashen Jest - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Let all these dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kennelled in me. Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:49:58 EST From: Julian51469@aol.com Subject: Hejira Guitars John said: << Joni is going to sell her guitars from the Hejira tour and Fred was curious if I thought the list would be interested in knowing that.>> Duuuude! How about she sells the low E string off the guitar she wrote "Hejira" on...you know the one that's tuned down to a B. I'd buy it for $25 bucks and frame it with the inscription: "Heart String". Holy Sh*t! This is very important stuff here...serious mojo going down. ...And it sounds like the ghost of Georgia O'Keefe is haunting her to the point where she feels complete and satiated enough to get on with her painting in a full time manner. I am soooo happy for her. How about a coffee tabel book of all of those guitars with all of their stories printed along side. Very important, very important stuff. (shaking my head in amazement). Thank you very much for the story. Julian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:18:55 -0500 From: "Bill Dollinger" Subject: Hendricks and Ross Article (long) (NJC) Back in the Swing of Things By Marc Fisher Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, January 14, 2000; Page C01 Dave Lambert, Jon Hendricks and Annie Ross sang with a crispness, a bright upness that sounded so '60s, so Camelot, so Rat Pack. From 1958 to 1962, they were the hip thing. The trio's tunes trumpeted that America could do anything, even add rapid-fire lyrics to the great jazz solos and make them swing as song. And then Ross dropped out--drugs, they said. And then Lambert died--car crash. And Lambert, Hendricks and Ross--L,H&R to the cognoscenti--became a moment, a marker in the lives of those who found love or wisdom or the right path while under the influence of three singers who put words to bebop and called it "vocalese." (Vocalese, first made popular by Eddie Jefferson in the '40s, is not scat, a wordless voice taking a turn as jazz soloist, but a blend of song and instrument, original in its lyrics yet exactly true to a previously recorded solo.) Thirty-six years passed. Now, Hendricks and Ross are singing together once more, proving that the past can return, and the right time for this past is now, because when America is rich and happy, it likes its songs fast and chipper and faster and swinging. Hendricks is 78 now, Ross 70, yet the two--appearing tonight at the Kennedy Center--are right in tune with the swing revival and the neo-lounge movement. Cocktails, Gap khakis, swing numbers on WHFS--it's now, baby. Hendricks and Ross laugh it up at a Foggy Bottom cafe, finishing each other's sentences as all partners are supposed to do. But for all those years apart, while they conducted solo careers, they rarely spoke. "The important thing is the music," Ross says, deflecting a question about the dynamic between the two. "That's the real truth." Whatever tensions there once were, last year's reunion was l aunched like a high-tech start-up: boom. Or so it looked. Actually, the return, like the duo's music, resulted from a mix of choreography and serendipity. The scene was Birdland in New York, 1998, Ross on the bandstand, Hendricks in the audience, having just "dropped by." Truth be told, the two singers had had a couple of vague talks about getting back together, but what happened next could not have been planned: When Ross invited Hendricks onstage to join her in her finale, Count Basie's "Jumpin' at the Woodside," the room burst into a roar. Standing O, before they sang a note. "People were running out the door, trying to buy those little instant cameras, trying to record a bit of jazz history," Hendricks recalls. "It was pandemonium," Ross remembers. "Thrilling." Ross returned the favor, visiting a Hendricks gig at the Blue Note. Getting back together was a no-brainer now. That's how it had seemed back at the beginning, too. So easy, so right. Hendricks, a minister's son who quit law school to devote himself to writing lyrics and playing drums, had been putting words to some Count Basie numbers. Hendricks joined Lambert, a former tree surgeon; and Ross, a child actress turned singer with Lionel Hampton's big band; and they hired a choir to record an album of Basie tunes. It was awful beyond words. They scrapped the choir and overdubbed themselves as trio. Was less ever more. They were the right thing at the right moment. Hendricks, the distinctive one with a taut velvet tone. Ross, providing the range and clarity. Lambert, the deep foundation. They were rigorous enough to be taken seriously by jazz purists, cool enough to win over the likes of Miles Davis and Charles Mingus. The jazz greats could be a jealous bunch, proprietary about their innovations, suspicious of anyone purporting to build on their work. And here were these singers copying every single note and inflection of the giants' solos. The potential for disaster was huge: They could play the notes but lose the soul, they could capture the feel but add words that twisted the meaning. From the first playback, they knew they had avoided the pitfalls. Ross remembers that "I had taken a little tape recorder to the studio, and I went home and called Miles and played it and said, 'What do you think?' " Davis told her to hang on, and he yelled to the visiting Mingus to pick up the extension, and they all listened "and they just went crazy," Ross recalls, like it was yesterday. All part of jazz history now. What jazz has become is something uncertain--parts still very much alive, but other parts preserved as a museum piece, pasteurized into the non-music called smooth jazz, or surviving as the subject of college courses and nonprofit institutional bands. And so, even as the greats die off almost one a week--Nat Adderley, who played cornet, just last week; the survivors talk about funeral fatigue--there is a passion for finding connections to the years when jazz really mattered. The connection, Ross says, "is the swing. That's the thing we have. When we're singing, it's bliss." Which is why the two had tried once before to get back together. In 1985 they reunited, replacing Lambert with another singer, Bruce Scott, who was chosen for his vocal similarity to their l ate partner. Some critics liked the trio fine, but it never felt right to Hendricks and Ross. Hendricks resumed his solo singing act. Ross went back to her acting career, including her most memorable role, as Tess Trainer, the drug- and drink-ravaged j azz singer in Robert Altman's "Short Cuts." Like Ross, Tess's voice was coarsened by time and abuse, yet still a rich instrument. Like Tess, Ross--a show-biz lifer who was born to Scottish vaudevillians and appeared in "Our Gang" shorts in the '30s--had overindulged; she faced health problems, bankruptcy, periods of unemployment. Her stardom with Lambert and Hendricks was bookended by affairs with jazz drummer Kenny Clarke and comic Lenny Bruce. But again, like her movie character, Ross emerged from her troubled years wiser. If Ross is reticent about her life beyond the music, Hendricks is the opposite--still electric in a blazer of shocking blue. He's busy setting up an Australian tour, and they're both writing lyrics for Dizzy Gillespie tunes they plan to record later this year. "It's like translating a novel," Hendricks explains. "You listen to the notes again and again and find the words that make the closest sounds in English. And then you find a story to link the words. The title of the song gives you the subject matter and then each horn becomes a character, commenting on his place in the drama." Sometimes the lyrics hang together; often, they fly by so fast, you hardly have a chance to do anything more than cop a mood from them. Yet Hendricks and Ross have kept every line in their heads all these years. Some adjustments were necessary. Here and there, they shifted keys to accommodate older voices. "I don't hit those G's over high C's anymore," Ross notes. This time, they dispensed with a third singer, divvying up some of Lambert's old lines and giving the rest to Hendricks's guitarist, Paul Meyers. The result, many critics say, is an ensemble feeling, a spirit that emerges untarnished by the decades of separation. "The guitar is so close to the human voice, Jon and I can hear Dave's voice while we're singing," Ross says. "It's almost a subliminal thing. People come up to us after the show and say, 'I heard Dave.' " Those are the older fans; the younger ones take it for what it is now, fresh and fast. Jon Hendricks and Annie Ross appear at the Kennedy Center tonight at 7:30. The concert is sold out, but extra seats may be added. Call 202-467-4600 for information. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:30:01 EST From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: BSN website Check out the reprise records website at www.repriserec.com and click on the photo of Joni to get an advance look at the limited edition BSN. It is not to be believed!!! You can also place an advance order for $10 off the suggested price (they are offering it for $39.98 plus shipping and handling). There is also a contest to win artist proofs of the new Joni lithographs. The website is nicely designed and gives a great preview for what promises to be a great CD and CD package. Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:16:57 -0600 From: "Mark T. Domyancich" Subject: Re: BSN website Wow, the limited edition is BEAUTIFUL!!!!! I am defintely getting it! And the lithos are suitable for framing! :D Thanks for posting this info, Stephen. At 12:30 PM -0500 1/14/00, SMEBD@aol.com wrote: >Check out the reprise records website at www.repriserec.com and click on the >photo of Joni to get an advance look at the limited edition BSN. It is not >to be believed!!! You can also place an advance order for $10 off the >suggested price (they are offering it for $39.98 plus shipping and handling). > There is also a contest to win artist proofs of the new Joni lithographs. >The website is nicely designed and gives a great preview for what promises to >be a great CD and CD package. Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net http://home.revealed.net/Harpua ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:57:57 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: aimee mann NJC wasn't there going to be an new aimee mann release soon? has anybody heard? wallyk, np: slouching, in the garden version > When I went to pay, the guy who was ringing me up asked his boss "Was Aimee Mann in a band before?" At least the manager knew about Til Tuesday... > I thought to myself that the guy had his face pierced so much that some of his brains had maybe trickled out! > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:14:44 -0500 From: "Bill Dollinger" Subject: Re: aimee mann NJC i believe it's the soundtrack to the film Magnolia... Bill - ----- Original Message ----- From: Wally Kairuz To: Cc: Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 1:57 PM Subject: aimee mann NJC > wasn't there going to be an new aimee mann release soon? has anybody heard? > wallyk, np: slouching, in the garden version > > > > > When I went to pay, the guy who was ringing me up asked his boss "Was > Aimee Mann in a band before?" At least the manager knew about Til Tuesday... > > I thought to myself that the guy had his face pierced so much that some of > his brains had maybe trickled out! > > > > Bob > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:34:37 -0700 From: "Alison Einerson" Subject: Aimee Mann NJC You may or may not be referring to the "magnolia" soundtrack, which I believe is nealy all Aimee Mann. I haven't heard the whole thing, but what I have heard of it is pretty good. Anyone seen the movie yet? Alison E. in SLC - ---------- >From: "Wally Kairuz" >To: >Subject: aimee mann NJC >Date: Fri, Jan 14, 2000, 11:57 AM > >wasn't there going to be an new aimee mann release soon? has anybody heard? >wallyk, np: slouching, in the garden version > > > >> When I went to pay, the guy who was ringing me up asked his boss "Was >Aimee Mann in a band before?" At least the manager knew about Til Tuesday... >> I thought to myself that the guy had his face pierced so much that some of >his brains had maybe trickled out! >> >> Bob > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:36:31 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: aimee mann NJC what a coincidence!!!! the BSN site that stephen sent has a link to the magnolia soundtrack and there's very nice page on the songs and aimee. this list is awash with mojo! wallyk, np, black crow, in the garden [YES. i've been on repeat for hours] - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: Bill Dollinger Para: Wally Kairuz ; CC: Enviado: Viernes 14 de Enero de 2000 16:14 Asunto: Re: aimee mann NJC > i believe it's the soundtrack to the film > Magnolia... > > Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:45:15 EST From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: HOSL demos In what form are the HOSL demos available? If there's one set of non-official Joni recordings I would love to hear it's these. David Mascall ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:49:25 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: OKAY OKAY -- I'll buy it!!! God I hate myself sometimes ... but having now discovered that the BSN "special edition" is, according to the website, "personally signed" by Joni ... well that's another whole kettle of fish! My order's been placed -- and I'm off to my cave to put my hair shirt on. Me and my big mouth ... Don Rowe ===== "I would not bet against the development of a time machine. My opponent may have already built one ... and know the future." -- Stephen Hawking __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:58:50 -0500 From: "Ken (Slarty)" Subject: Re: Melissa story...NJC In spite of this being a crass act as you so aptly put it I just loved Crosby's line- that he was "Happy to lend a hand." Now there's class. rick novosel wrote: ...The difference between a class act versus a crass act? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:03:44 -0500 From: "Ken (Slarty)" Subject: Re: OKAY OKAY -- I'll buy it!!! You're kidding, right.?! Joni's wrist must be more worn out than Crosbys. Don Rowe wrote: > according to the website, "personally signed" by Joni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:11:26 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: UK import duties (NJC) Jacky wonders... >how the amount of duty is arrived at - i.e. is it a proportion of >the >value of the goods or is it a fixed amount in which case it >might be worth >our getting together and making a bulk order to cdnow for BSN? Anyone >know? You don't think it could actually be a simple percentage equation, do you? Things are never that simple, esp when dealing with the government. I once queried our (Canadian) import/tax people on some clothing I was ordering from the US and they have all sorts of conditions, e.g, was the material made in Canada, even tho' shipped from the US is one rate; made in the US a slightly higher rate; made elsewhere apart from Canada or the US, a much higher rate - like, how would they even KNOW this? Was the item made in the US, or in another country, and so on... Our province of Ontario will slap a provincial sales tax on a muffin (as a snack food), but if you buy 6 or more at the same time, there's no PST because it's no longer a snack (is it a meal? is it food for a family of 8 for a week?) Seriously though, you should consider posing just such a question (about if you ordered in bulk) to CDNow and/or similar on-line business - many of these US companies that are after Canadian business for example now take care of handling the duty and import tax for you, so you pay everything in one bill to them, they pay the taxes and duty for you, and (bonus), you don't have to go somewhere to pick it up and show them 10 pieces of ID and sign for it. In other words, if they're getting enough business from the UK, they may decide to set something like that up with your gov't. It probably wouldn't cost you any less, but it would save you some hassle. Of course, maybe things are a bit easier here between Canada and the US because of free trade and because we live next door to each other, but you should just pose the question to them, theoretically. (I'll attempt here to ward off any fellow Canadians lambasting me for not buying Canadian by saying, I'd do it if our suppliers got with the program and provided the kind of variety they have in the US - it's not often you see an older Joni album in even the best record stores and that's just one example). Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:13:31 -0800 From: Louis Lynch Subject: in the garden? Hi all, I keep seeing references to "In the Garden" in your now playing lists. Is this an album? Could someone provide more information about it? By the way, I went to www.repriserec.com based on Stephen's recommendation. It's a magical website -- as soon as you click on the picture of Joni Mitchell, your other hand automatically reaches for your credit card. Regards, Harper Lou ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:17:05 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: BSN for the academic This sounds good to me: >The Ontological meets the Transcendent: The Eschatological >Revelation in >the Theophonophic Message of God's Troubadour Joni Mitchell, an >exercise >in the dialectic of both sides now: Hegelian synthesis or >Melanchthonic >tension?. Epistoligcal and Hermenutical implication shall also be >considered This sounds even better! Wonder if I could convince my boss that there's something here of relevance to work and could get them to spring for the tab... >By popular demand I can do this is at a JoniFest and make your >attendance partly deductible, and prove that the art world can't >hold a >candle to the Theology world when it comes to insider jargon! Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:18:07 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: World Premiere of BSN Tune on 'Dawson's Creek' on 1/19 I'm so excited about the BSN Special Edition. It's hard to imagine that Joni will actually sign each one herself though. How could she? I'll suspend my disbelief for now. On the Reprise site in behind the "News" icon this press release emerged today. I've never seen this TV series before, but I'll be tuned in on Wednesday, 1/19. Interestiing what Klein had to say about Joni's concept of BSN's theme, I think. - -Julius NEW JONI MITCHELL ALBUM SLATED FOR RELEASE WB Television Show Dawson’s Creek To World Premiere Track Wednesday, January 19th Hit WB Television series Dawson’s Creek will world premiere a track from BOTH SIDES NOW, the new album from singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell which will be released by Reprise Records this Spring. The song will air on the Wednesday, January 19th episode of the popular weekly dramatic series. "We think that this is our strongest use of music and our strongest episode of the season," said Dawson’s Creek Executive Producer Paul Stupin. "Joni’s voice and this song are as timeless as the stories we try to depict, and for a show that is known for music from female vocalists, we’re proud to have the ultimate." A passionate song cycle about love in all of its manifestations, BOTH SIDES NOW contains twelve tracks recorded at Sir George Martin’s studio in London, England, with seventy members of the London Symphony Orchestra. A release date has been set for March 21st with a limited numbered edition available in time for Valentine’s Day which will come in a specially-designed box created by Mitchell and containing three of her lithographs. Featuring sultry, dramatic renditions of love songs from the 1920’s to the present, the CD was produced by Mitchell and Larry Klein, and features guest performances by artists Herbie Hancock, Mark Isham and Wayne Shorter. BOTH SIDES NOW showcases Joni like she’s never been heard before, singing music that she loves to sing, including such great vocal standards as "You’re My Thrill," "Stormy Weather" and "At Last." Also included on the album are fully orchestrated versions of two classic Mitchell songs, "Both Sides Now" and "A Case Of You" "Joni came up with the idea of having the record trace the arc of a modern romantic relationship," says co-producer Klein, "From initial flirtation through optimistic consummation, metamorphosing into disillusionment, ironic despair, and finally resolving in the philosophical overview of acceptance and the probability of the cycle repeating itself." An innovator at the forefront of folk, jazz, pop, avant-garde and world music, nearly half of Mitchell’s studio albums have been certified gold or platinum and she is the recipient of four Grammys. A complete track listing for BOTH SIDES NOW is as follows: "You’re My Thrill," "At Last," "Comes Love," "You’ve Changed," "Answer Me, My Love," "A Case Of You," Don’t Go To Strangers," "Sometimes I’m Happy," "Don’t Worry ’Bout Me," "Stormy Weather," "I Wish I Were In Love Again" and "Both Sides Now." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:20:46 -0800 From: Louis Lynch Subject: RE: UK import duties (NJC) Actually Catherine... It's difficult to find a selection of Joni CDs in most record stores down here, too. Now that chains such as The Wall have taken over, inventories aren't what they used to be. Just the other day, I popped into a record store to see if the Blue CD was available. In the Joni Mitchell section, there was one copy of Court & Spark and one copy of Misses. Not a single cassette. I asked the young clerk if there was another place in the store for Joni Mitchell. When she asked "Who?" and looked very perplexed, I just came back to the office and surfed over to amazon.com. What's this world coming to, eh? Regards, Harper Lou ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:23:29 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: population NJC << By the way, you forgot to restrict breeding rights for fans of professional wrestling... >> Hey, the sad truth is that the people y'all are talking about are the ones poppin' out all the kids! And going to a professional wrestling show is a total HOOT, by the way...the show is watching the crowd! Lou sarcastalouie said: ><< By the way, you forgot to restrict breeding rights for fans of >professional > wrestling... >> Bob replied: >Hey, the sad truth is that the people y'all are talking about are >the ones >poppin' out all the kids! Hey, isn't wrestling involved in making babies to begin with? NO? Well, I'll be... >And going to a professional wrestling show is a total HOOT, by the > >way...the show is watching the crowd! My son wants to go to a monster truck fest - I actually kinda want to take him. I've never been to one of those and I think it would be loads of fun in a trailer-trashy kind of way. It's a good thing I've already had my quota of kids, 'cuz I'm pretty sure this secret yen for noise and car exhaust would rule me out too! Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:32:12 -0800 From: Louis Lynch Subject: RE: population NJC Catherine, please note... I said absolutely nothing about Monster Truck Fests. They're OK by me! In my past life as a country rock singer (1970s), I actually have performed at one or two. Our band also played at a tractor pull and a motorcycle hill climb. Since I now play mostly Renaissance music on the harp, though, they haven't invited me back. Go figure? Harper Lou ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:34:14 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: population NJC > Matt Damon?ick! Give my Keanu over Mr Lips anyday! Who would ever notice his lips with all those BIG WHITE TEETH in the way? I can't look at him without just seeing teeth. Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:37:25 -0800 From: Louis Lynch Subject: RE: population NJC P.S. on my old country rock days... The band I played in "tolerated" my love of Joni Mitchell and we even did a few of her faster numbers. In one biker bar we played a lot, "Raised on Robbery" was our most popular song -- the regulars requested it every time we were there. "Melissa" by the Allman Brothers also was a favorite. Oops, I may have revealed too much about myself... Regards, Harper Lou ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:48:20 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: World Premiere of BSN Tune on 'Dawson's Creek' on 1/19 GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD!!!!! Now before everyone jumps in with the "gee isn't it great that the teen-somethings will be exposed to Joni" and so on and so on -- this is unthinkable beyond any hope of decency. I had the same reaction to the Paul Westerberg and John Hiatt songs being used on "Party of Five" which not a soul in the show's target audience noticed -- oh I can't even rant any more -- I have to go floss -- or something. Don Rowe ===== "I would not bet against the development of a time machine. My opponent may have already built one ... and know the future." -- Stephen Hawking __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:49:37 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: World Premiere of BSN Tune Julius, thanks so much for this alert! You wrote: >I'm so excited about the BSN Special Edition. It's hard to imagine that Joni will actually sign each >one herself though. How could she? I'll suspend my disbelief for now. I believe it, but it also makes me think the supply may be more limited than we think. This is an incredible "surprise" and unbelievably generous of her. Certainly beats out the tin ear in TI, eh? ;-) The other "surprise" that may mean more to us arty types than others is that it appears in the Reprise web site photo that there is a small stack of CDs designed to look like old 45 records. I think this was one of the "surprises" Robbie was hinting at to us because he mentioned it in regard to the "well" that holds the CD. The box is fairly deep so this would make sense. How incredible - I'm just blown away -and if they don't win the Grammy for art/packaging, I will be completely dumbfounded. One thing that is not really clear is the following: >which will come in a specially-designed box created by Mitchell and containing three of her >lithographs. The Reprise website ad also mentions only 3 lithos in its copy, yet it shows 4 lithos in its photos and there are 4 new paintings. Wonder what is up with that? I also was not aware that Sir George Martin had some hand in this - no wonder the sound is so stupendous. Kakki, going to order her 3rd copy before they sell out! ;-D NP: Joni - No Apologies ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:58:28 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: Melissa story...NJC Ken says: >In spite of this being a crass act as you so aptly put it I just >loved >Crosby's line- that he was "Happy to lend a hand." Uh, it wasn't his hand he was lending... well, his hand may have been, probably was, involved at some point... iwww, what am I saying? ;D Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:15:25 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: RE: UK import duties (NJC) Louis said: >It's difficult to find a selection of Joni CDs in most record stores >down >here, too. Have you seen some of those stores that just sell best-sellers? In fact, I think they're even called "Bestsellers". The first time I saw one of these, after I had picked my jaw up off the floor and mumbled, "Naah, it couldn't be, it just couldn't..." to myself several times, I took a kind of sideways look at it - like Medusa, you've got to look at its reflection in a burnished shield instead of gazing at it straight on, because the ugliness of it is just too much for mortal eyes to bear and you'd surely turn to stone! All they sell is, yup, you got it, best-sellers in paperback books (I guess Danielle Steele and John Grisham figure prominently in their rather limited inventory!); videos (what are the top videos? Stuff with Bruce Willis or Arnie in them?) I'm not sure if they sell CDs because my skin crawls just walking past one, so I certainly wouldn't want to go in and check it out in person. I've seen a few CD stores that certainly SEEM to sell only the top 40 CDs (Brittney and her ilk) - I don't understand how any business could stay in business for very long with such a limited inventory, but maybe it's like Macdonald's(?) >Now that chains such as The Wall have taken over, inventories aren't >what >they used to be. It's frightening. I'm a tad agoraphobic or something - I can't even walk into one of those places without feeling dizzy and disoriented and forgetting why I went in there. And I hate those greeters they have, like in the Gap - what are they supposed to be doing? They're actually a kind of advance security guard. They may be SAYING, "Hi, how are you today?" but they really mean, "I know who you are and if you try anything, this foolish grin on my face is gonna disappear and I'll nail ya one!" >What's this world coming to, eh? I tellya - it's going to hell in a handbasket! Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:16:38 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: BSN Premiere on "Creek ..." (ought to be NJC) Okay, I've flossed and rinsed vigorously -- and still I can't get the bad taste out of my mouth. You know what the real insult added to the injury is here -- I'm going to have to burn up a perfectly good video tape, and put miles on my Hi-Fi VCR fast forwarding back and forth through this dreck and commercials to get to the song ... which they'll probably play in the background over some insipid neo-moral-highground dialogue in a soft-sex-for-the-first-time scene. UGH! UGH! UGH! I'll be damned if I'll watch the video though -- this is going to be one torture session I'll endure with the TV off, thank you very much. How much more of this perfidy am I to endure??? Don Rowe ===== "I would not bet against the development of a time machine. My opponent may have already built one ... and know the future." -- Stephen Hawking __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:27:22 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: BSN Premiere on "Creek ..." (ought to be NJC) Do Don please explain why your knickers are all a twist. What is Creek and why has it upset you so? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:32:20 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: BSN Premiere on "Creek ..." (ought to be NJC) - --- catman wrote: > Do Don please explain why your knickers are all a > twist. What is Creek and why has it upset you so? > Dawson's Creek is the poster child for everything that is tacky, trashy, trendy, trite and tiresome about US Network television -- a show with simple answers for simple 16-24 minds -- dressed up in Gap fashions and masquerading as having a politically correct social conscience. In short -- it's everything Joni's been ranting about herself -- "genuine junkfood for juveniles." Don Rowe ===== "I would not bet against the development of a time machine. My opponent may have already built one ... and know the future." -- Stephen Hawking __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:35:42 -0800 From: Louis Lynch Subject: RE: BSN Premiere on "Creek ..." (ought to be NJC) Poor Don, having to sit through a modern television show for a WHOLE hour. You make it sound so miserable. Perhaps having a crossword puzzle or a book will help. That way you won't have to pay attention until you hear Joni's voice. I'm kind of glad that Joni's playing on entertainment geared for the younger generation -- more exposure is good. Who knows, maybe some of them will like the music and convert. "These young people have it too easy these days. Television shows geared toward their demographics, VCRs to record their favorite shows, microwave popcorn. Why in my day, we had three channels, and they were static-y! And that damned Brady Bunch show! We had to sit there and watch it because there was nothing else! And they only showed Elvis above the waist! Uphill both ways, in the snow...." Praying that the Joni Mitchell premiere occurs in the first half, for Don's sake... Harper Lou ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:40:58 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: aimee mann NJC When I saw Aimee and her husband Michael Penn at The Largo in December, she was selling a "Limited Preview Edition" of her new album entitled "Bachelor No. 2 (or the last remains of the dodo". I believe Jason mentioned this 7-song CD in a previous post. It is quite good. I never got around to sending a report on the show but wanted to put in a word the next time she came up on the list. Apparently they play The Largo almost every Tuesday night when they are in town. It's a wonderful little club and the favorite of most musicians because of the way the owner, Flannagan, treats them. I've heard he actually gives the artists well over and above the "take" on a regular basis, too. Jonatha Brooke will be playing there again soon. I hate to compare artists to others in order to give an idea of their sound to those who may not have heard them yet, but I'm unable to send an MP3 clip. The best I can do is to say if you love Jonatha Brooke and Lennon-McCartney (for Penn) you will love the warm, beautiful music of this pair. The ywo of them are also doing a short tour around the U.S. now. I don't have time to post the dates and places, (it's probably on her website) but I highly recommend seeing them. Kakki NP: Joni - Lead Balloon ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #24 **************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?