From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #8 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Thursday, January 6 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 008 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: which joni to loan... ["Alison Einerson" ] Re: Grammy (SJC) [Dflahm@aol.com] RE: Grammy (SJC) [Louis Lynch ] Lindsay Duncan NJC [john low ] First of the millenium... [Louis Lynch ] London Jonibash [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: New Year's Resolutions - NJC [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: What ONE album would you loan? [Kathleen Kajioka ] London Jonifest [Gertus@aol.com] Re: Spong (NJC) [kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave)] RE: PRICK (very NJC, but... :-) [Scott Price ] SEX and RELIGION NJC but very Joni! [Vince Lavieri ] Re: SEX and RELIGION NJC but very Joni! [Jason Maloney ] RE: Spong (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: LondonFest ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: PRICK NJC [catman ] The BIRTH OF THE COOL Sessions [simon@icu.com] Not to Blame [simon@icu.com] Re: PRICK (very NJC, but... :-) [catman ] Re: Spong (NJC) [catman ] What ONE album would you loan? [evian ] Re: SEX and RELIGION NJC but very Joni! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: PRICK [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: PRICK [IVPAUL42@aol.com] re: Today In Joni History (1/4) [simon@icu.com] Joni may? perform again. [simon@icu.com] Re: PRICK (very NJC, but... :-) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: What ONE album would you loan? ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: LACE interview ["Kakki" ] Re: What ONE album would you loan? ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: Flying High! conspiracy cover up NJC ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: Spong (NJC) ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: SEX and RELIGION NJC but very Joni! ["Helen M. Adcock" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 14:50:48 -0700 From: "Alison Einerson" Subject: RE: which joni to loan... Just wanted to kick in my 2¢ on this one... I think Court and Spark would be a great first album for a new Joni listener, probably because it is relatively more "pop" oriented than her other works, so it might be a little easier to grasp. It has such clarity to it, a deceptively simplistic quality that I really love. Also, "People's Parties" was the first thing I learned how to play in an alternate tuning, so I must be biased. Alison in SLC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:16:48 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Grammy (SJC) Unfortunately, no nominations for JAZZ TAKES...but there were some great musicians nominated in those categories, so...I'm OK. I appreciate everyone's good wishes on this. DL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:35:15 -0800 From: Louis Lynch Subject: RE: Grammy (SJC) David, Sorry to hear it. You deserved a nomination and a grammy award for your work. Hey List! I hereby nominate David for the official "JMDL BEST JAZZ JONI JAZZ COVER ARTIST OF THE 20th CENTURY" award! Any seconds? (And David, best wishes on your project with your mother's songs. It sounds wonderful.) Harper Lou - -----Original Message----- From: Dflahm@aol.com [mailto:Dflahm@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 5:17 PM To: notaro@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Grammy (SJC) Unfortunately, no nominations for JAZZ TAKES...but there were some great musicians nominated in those categories, so...I'm OK. I appreciate everyone's good wishes on this. DL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:39:22 +1100 From: john low Subject: Lindsay Duncan NJC Jaimie, Lindsay Duncan and Al Pacina were both in "City Hall" (1996). Is this the film you are thinking of? Al Pacino played a 'dodgy' New york mayor whose questionable methods and allegiances were investigated by one of his aides (John Cusack). Thanks, too, to you and the others for your great reports on the London Jonifest. It sounds like you all had a wonderful time. John (in Sydney). __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:45:26 -0800 From: Louis Lynch Subject: First of the millenium... Hi all, Pardon the shameless self-promotion, but I hereby claim to be the first JMDL member to release an album this year (century, millennium, whatever). My new CDs just arrived via UPS! "Traditional Music for Irish Harp" is recorded using just my harp for accompaniment and vocals. It's basically a product designed for sale at Renaissance Faires, a direct response to requests from people who want a recording of the traditional music I play there. It includes my renditions of Greensleeves, Beggars to God, Mingulay Boat Song, Wind that Shakes the Barley, Morning Has Broken, Mist Covered Mountains, and other Irish/Celtic classics. Any reviewers or record producers out there, I'll send you a free copy. I'll even grovel before you. The albums will be available on Amazon.com and such soon. If anyone is interested in performer comps or trades, please e-mail me privately. Hope this doesn't breach list etiquette, but it's so exciting when a new shipment comes in! Harper Lou harp@louislynch.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:01:25 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: London Jonibash Well, what an evening! I don't know how many people have already posted, as my first attempt to resub failed :-( I don't think there have ever been as many Europe-based Jonilisters together in one (bloody cold) room: in order of appearance, as far as I can remember: Jason, Jamie, Chris, Marian, Martin, Rob, Jacky, Gerry and yours truly. The Troubadour is a nice venue, despite the frankly arctic conditions. The acoustics are great, no doubt aided by the battered French Horns that line the walls (no, we couldn't figure that one out either). I am used to taking notes during concerts, as I write reviews for a website every week. HOWEVER, such was my state of delight from the very first note Marian played, that I omitted to write a word down, and thus my recollections are piecemeal at best. What I can tell you is that Marian and Jamie were the singers, both accompanying themselves on guitar, joined for quite a few tunes by Chris, who played some wicked bass, replicating Jaco and Larry with tremendous elan, especially since he'd never played these songs live! Marian's singing and playing were even better than I'd been led to believe, which is saying something. Starting with Coyote, I was spellbound, not only by her performances but the ease with which she coped with the retuning: no VG8 shortcuts here! Court And Spark was represented with People's Parties and Just Like This Train, Hissing by Harry's House. One of my personal highlights was Ladies of The Canyon, a song I barely know, as I very rarely listen to LOTC. Just beautiful. Rob requested something from Blue, and Marian obliged with a jaunty This Flight Tonight, with an impossibly low bottom string, which prompted me to ask for The Wolf That Lives in Lindsay, which was staggering - I seriously doubt Joni herself could have done it better. The communal singalong was provided by The Circle Game, and Marian finished with a sublime A Strange Boy. Which brings me to Jamie (ha! Jus' kiddin, Jamie). Jamie, as some of you may know, is a bloody good actor. Well, he's kept his singing and guitar playing abilities pretty well under wraps, and wowed us with his amazingly Joni-esque guitar (he's got that slap-and-drag thang to perfection) and rich, passionate singing. And boy, did he go for the easy songs! Hissing figured prominently, with Don't Interrupt The Sorrow, In France They Kiss On Mainstreet (or am I imagining that - I'm beginning to doubt myself!!) and Edith and the Kingpin. He also gave us Hejira and The Silky Veils of Ardor, one of my fave Joni songs. And just to show he does the early stuff too, Jamie did a wonderful rendition of Woman of Heart and Mind, sung from the point of view of an ex-girlfriend singing it to him (Confused? It all made sense on the night...), and Sisotowbell Lane, another song I hardly know. He was joined by Adeola for a sweet duet on Good Friends. And let's not forget perhaps the "centrepiece" of the evening, where Jamie, Marian and Chris all played on Don Juan's Reckless Daughter and Cotton Avenue - - complete with Overture! It was too great. What more can I say?? I sat there with a silly grin on my face all evening, I hope the tape and the photos come out OK, and it was lovely to meet Jason and Jacky for the first time. Both had travelled a long way to get there, and I was delighted they had. And of course I had not met Marian before, though at least I had a chance to get to know her a bit, which was a huge pleasure, as she stayed at my place (which was also not exactly boiling hot...). I'll be having a party here later in the year - to celebrate when I eventually leave my current job! - and I hope EVERYONE will be able to come!! So, there we have it, another illustration of Joni's abaility to unite people from all sorts of backgrounds, with nothing in common except being beautiful people with great taste in music. Time to log back on and check if my second and third attempts to resub have been successful. Much Joni to all. Azeem in London NP: a fab tape Gerry gave me yesterday, now at Rachelle Ferrelle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:08:05 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: New Year's Resolutions - NJC In a message dated 1/4/2000 11:58:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, hell@ihug.co.nz writes: << Not indulge in ANY impulse spending - lasted 5 days (today), when I saw a shirt I just HAD to have - and a real bargain! I'll probably wear it once, decide it's ugly, and throw it in the bottom of the "clothes I might wear again someday, even if they don't fit, and I've had them 10 years" drawer. >> Oh that is me to the max!! I see a shirt or a blouse and think *I must have THIS* buy it and then it spends the rest of its life in the back of my closet. My husband always says to me *I can take any of your clothes wrap them up and give them to you and you would think they were brand new!! ::and thenHellen wrote: Actually the resolution I should have made was "Live life to the fullest, because you never know what's around the corner" then I'd be doing great! I agree with this statment very much so as well. You just never know when you are going to go so live it up within reason!! Hugs, Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 18:16:18 -0500 From: Kathleen Kajioka Subject: Re: What ONE album would you loan? This is a bit of a hard one. I think I would lend "Blue", partly because it's the one most people know, but also because, it being the most emotionally "pure" album (she was on the brink of tears the whole time she was recording it), I think it gets at her essence, both poetically and musically. Kathleen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:13:17 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: London Jonifest Jamie, I just want to thankyou for the London Jonifest, last night, and I'm so sorry I had to leave early. As I've just told Kakki, who tried so hard to get the Joni interview tape to me in time, JMDL people are the best! You and Jason have already described very well the events of last night. I would just like to add that for me, some of the very many hi-lights include your rendition of "Hejira", Marian's of "Ladies of the Canyon", and really outstanding, you and your friend doing "My Secret Place" which, unlike Jason, is not a favourite song of mine, but your friend was so totally cool and in control, that I loved it. Please tell her she's a star, as are you! Great to meet everyone and when's the next one? Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:22:51 -0500 (EST) From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) Subject: Re: Spong (NJC) Chris Marshall offered a prize: >Oh my word. This is just crying out for >something to be done with it. >Complete the following:- >                There was an espiscopal >bishop named Spong       Who... >I'll give a prize(*) for the best lymeric to >continue this. An Episcopal Bishop named Spong thought the Catholics had it all wrong he theorized Mary with each Tom, Dick & Harry and said that's how Jesus was born. gdave and while we're being sacrilegious, did anyone catch "The Most Offensive Song Ever Written" by Kenny, about just this subject on the most recent South Park xmas cd? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 15:29:00 -0800 From: Scott Price Subject: RE: PRICK (very NJC, but... :-) At 07:28 PM 1/5/00, Chris Marshall wrote: >Oh my word. This is just crying out for something to be done with it. >Complete the following:- >There was an espiscopal bishop named Spong >Who... OK Chris, I'll take the bait.... There was an Epsicopal bishop named Spong Who ranted o'er the official millenium too long He posted with authority Gave off airs of superiority And in the end was labelled a dong Scott :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 19:15:30 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: SEX and RELIGION NJC but very Joni! As Dan Rowe is concerned, properly, with sex and religion in the JMDL, and since I am an ordained cleric who has read about sex, I am qualified to make the following statements: 1. One should never have sex nor religion while in the JMDL, except with the greatest concerns for others who are not having sex or religion; we can hear your crazy cries of love, so keep it down... so to speak. And no one wants to see a moon at the window. 2. One should have sex and/or religion only with other JMDL members, for otherwise what type of children will result? ... unless your sex and religion is not for the purpose of procreation, and if that is the case, please notify the Rolling Stone magazine of all instances of sex so that they can continue to call Joni and/or her followers bad names and/or see what a bad influence she has had on us. The Rolling Stone magazine will not take notice of acts of religion, however. 3. Before sex or religion, give thanks. 4. After sex or religion, give thanks, and do say, my best to you. 5. While having sex or religion, never say, nothing can be done. 6. You may think your sex or religion abilities are good; your partner(s) in these activities may think you are an impossible dreamer, while you think you are not to blame if all is not well. 7. If your sex or religion is particularly good, please tape it or videotape it for use on a tape tree. If the sex is extraordinarily picturesque, or if done with Pamela Anderson and/or Tommy Lee, please ensure that copyright goes to to Wally Breese so that the royalties proceeds can be used to support the JMDL. If the religion is particularly good, no one will care so there will be no videotape royalties. 8. Best places for sex or religion: California, People's Parties, Harlem in Havana, Two Grey Rooms, Ray's Dad's Cadillac (except if Ray's dad is in it...), Blue Room Hotel, and in France, where they kiss on Main Street., sometimes underneath the street light. 9. I shall make no comments on sex and religion having to deal with anything man to man, although if you want to contact me off line... and remember, wild things to run fast... 10. And as far as the official word for the SIUQUOMB One, religion has not yet been addressed but sex kills. Oh, damn! Can we get a new opinion on that, Joni? Respectfully submitted, (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:11:42 +1100 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: What ONE album would you loan Marcel really hit the nail on the head regarding this. It really does depend on who you are lending the album to. The incredible depth of albums such as "Herija" could be overwhelming for some and love at first sight for others. Lending one album *does* make sense as there have been so many phases to Joni's work that most people would (happily) spend years absorbing all those. Why not lend one album a month until they're hooked? If I was to recommend *one* album, I would suggest one of the following: For the Roses Court & Spark Night Ride Home Any of those albums should prove easier for a newcomer to Joni's music. My preference would be FTR. Let them start at the title track. In addition to being one of the most popular Joni songs, this also demonstrates her ability to create really incredible music while just accompanying herself on Guitar. (I'm also biased as this was the first Joni album that I heard around 20 years ago) ps: This is a great "thread" as it allows those of us relative newcomers to JMDL who haven't heard all Joni's music yet to contribute to a Joni thread Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:24:53 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: SEX and RELIGION NJC but very Joni! Oh Vince, that was absolutely hilarious!!! Are you this funny during your services? I give thanks to you, and I haven't had sex or religion, (not today anyway) Jimmy laughing, laughing, laughing ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 00:35:59 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: PRICK (very NJC, but... :-) Nooooo, please, all of you......STOP!!!!....you can't make me laugh this much....not at 1 in the morning! ;-) Jason. Scott Price wrote: > There was an Epsicopal bishop named Spong > Who ranted o'er the official millenium too long > He posted with authority > Gave off airs of superiority > And in the end was labelled a dong > > Scott :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 00:40:53 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: SEX and RELIGION NJC but very Joni! ...and then THIS comes along! ;-) ROFTLMAO (but discreetly, you understand). It simply HAS to go in the JMDL hall of fame! Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 20:18:07 -0500 From: "Sue Cameron" Subject: LondonFest Thanks to everyone who posted about the gathering. Although the surroundings were chilly the company sounded warm and inviting and the music pure magic. I hope that the list will be able to get copies as I am intreguied by Chris' bass playing. Always loved Jaco, and seeing him live was a wonderful treat. From everyone's description sounds like Chris could be a ringer. Jamie, I have to give you credit for getting over the stage fright. It is a big demon to conquer but sounds like you came through with grace. Then there is Marian. 'Nuf said. Can't wait to hear Cotton Avenue! I sure would love it (Jamie) if you guys would plan another gathering when the weather is warmer. Maybe in August? Around the 2nd week of August? It is always very temperate then and you never know how many Yank tourists will be in town :-) Cheers~ Suze ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:24:46 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Spong (NJC) there once was a bishop named spong wont to wear only a thong he stood high at the altar and he never did falter while the ladies sighed over his schlong wallyk, the bard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:37:58 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: LondonFest careful there, sue!!! early august is too close to labor day, a sacred date for jmdlers!!! ;-))) wallyk > I sure would love it (Jamie) if you guys would plan another gathering when > the weather is warmer. Maybe in August? Around the 2nd week of August? It > is always very temperate then and you never know how many Yank tourists will > be in town :-) > > Cheers~ > > Suze > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 01:56:54 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: PRICK NJC > > > i did not know the last part of that where Augustine is the patron of SLAA. Well he isn't actually but I couldn't think of the right way to put it. 12 step programs don't have 'patron saints'. They quote him and see him as the first 'sex addict'!!! > But i think you are right about the notion of sin and sex finding its start > there, although there was always a notion of " unclean" associated with sex > even as far back as David's time because the priests used to have to abstain > from sex for a period of time prior to entering the holy of holies. yes, but the point being not that sex was considered unclean, we all know that(!), but that this is where the idea came from regarding original sin. The rest of what you say is very interesting. I have just read a book named What They Diddn';t tell You In Sunday School. Can't recall who by, but it is very very interesting reading. I am reading another right now called Come Home, aimed at people who are 'cast out' by fundies and others like. fascinating reading. Certainly openes ones mind and eys to the evil committed in Jesus' name and tears apart the so called 'bible teaching' bandied about by those whose agenda is different from that inteneded by Jesus. I see the Bible in a completely different light. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:14:29 -0800 From: simon@icu.com Subject: The BIRTH OF THE COOL Sessions Jerome writes ... >_________________________________________________________________________ >I saw 'Mr. Ripley' last week and quite enjoyed it actually, but (music >slut that I be) couldn't help but be distracted by one detail. This >movie takes place in the fifties, not long before/after the birth of cool >>sessions and Miles Davis' recording of Kind Of Blue. However, the jazz >>aficianado Dickie Greenleaf had somehow acquired a vinyl copy of Tutu, >Miles' 1986 release! Did anyone else catch this? >_________________________________________________________________________ Jerome, FWIW: the BIRTH OF THE COOL (recording) Sessions took place on: January 21, 1949 April 22, 1949 March 9, 1950 with previous 'Live' dates by the associated musicians on: Sept. 4, 1948 Sept. 18, 1948 it's interesting to note that while these highly influential sessions inspired the whole school of West Coast 'Cool' Jazz, they were simply another transitional phase for Miles! who quickly moved on. KIND OF BLUE was recorded during sessions on March 2, and April 22, 1959. for now ~ take care, - ------- simon - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:15:03 -0800 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Not to Blame Alison Einerson wrote ... >__________________________________________________________________________ >Okay, I must be really confused. I thought there was a big to-do about >the song "Not to Blame" having been written about Jackson Browne's alleged >>physical violence against Daryl Hannah. What does O.J. have to do with >any of it? >Alison in SLC >__________________________________________________________________________ Alison, there's nothing *alleged* about Jacksons' physical violence against Daryl Hannah. it was widely reported. as for "What does O.J. have to do with any of it?" NOTHING! not a damn thing. besides ... the Song *predates* the murder of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman, by a person or persons Unknown! for now ~ take care, - ------- simon - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 02:16:09 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: PRICK (very NJC, but... :-) You wicked boy. Now go and say 12 Hail mary's. Scott Price wrote: > At 07:28 PM 1/5/00, Chris Marshall wrote: > >Oh my word. This is just crying out for something to be done with it. > >Complete the following:- > >There was an espiscopal bishop named Spong > >Who... > > OK Chris, I'll take the bait.... > > There was an Epsicopal bishop named Spong > Who ranted o'er the official millenium too long > He posted with authority > Gave off airs of superiority > And in the end was labelled a dong > > Scott :-) - -- To change the world-change your self "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 02:19:45 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Spong (NJC) Wally Kairuz wrote: > there once was a bishop named spong > wont to wear only a thong > he stood high at the altar > and he never did falter > while the ladies sighed over his schlong Just the ladies? Wally, you baaaad boy. > > > wallyk, the bard - -- To change the world-change your self "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 20:55:55 -0600 From: evian Subject: What ONE album would you loan? Actually, I just introduced a friend to Joni's music this Christmas with C&S. She knows nothing about Joni, but is absolutely obsessed with Carole King's Tapestry, and since both albums remind me of each other in some way (don't even ask what I mean, but to me they sorta go hand in hand), I thought C&S would be a good intro. However, it all depends on the person. Personally, it was Blue that caught my attention, but I would say C&S is a safe bet. However, since this year I seem to be leaning towards HOSL and DJRD and FTR as my fave Joni albums (I just can't be consistent like all you Hejira folks), I think a compilation tape of songs from those albums, in the right order, would be good to indoctrinate the non-Joniphiles. Evian np: Supertramp -- Even in the Quietest Moments ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:55:28 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: SEX and RELIGION NJC but very Joni! In a message dated 1/5/00 6:12:35 PM US Central Standard Time, revrvl@pathwaynet.com writes: << 3. Before sex or religion, give thanks. >> I suppose the old standard "For what we are about to eat, may we be truly thankful" could be used...;~D Great post Vinnie!! Bob's evil twin, thinking about the limerick.... NP: Seal, "When A Man Is Wrong" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:01:26 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: PRICK In a message dated 1/5/00 12:43:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, Siresorrow@aol.com writes: << but you must admit, even if they were a year early, the fireworks shooting out of the eiffel tower were pretty damn cool and the momentum of the posts that led to my name calling was of the same spirit as those fireworks: happy and light hearted. >> Yes, I loved them too. And what's more, it was merely the warmup for what should an even bigger and better celebration at the end of this year. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:01:24 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: PRICK In a message dated 1/5/00 10:48:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, jlhall01@snet.net writes: << > Well, once he posted, a great fight errupted over the use of MM to signify > 1000 or the use of CK to signify 1000, since the beginnings of metrics were > being ushered in at that time. Also, the letter C accompanied the letter K, > signifying the end of the great reign of the Romans and the beginning of the > onslaught of Central Europe. So, MM became commonly known as CK. > > One thing led to another and Paul, aka PRI , the great defender of proper > datings, became commonly known as: > > Paul the PRICK. >> I got a big laugh out of this, too. H2K everyone! Paul I (that initial I is definitely a phallic symbol now!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:16:47 -0800 From: simon@icu.com Subject: re: Today In Joni History (1/4) Mark writes ... >_______________________________________________________ >Subject: Today In Joni History (1/4) > >I forgot to email Les about this one, >but in 1968 Joni performed at Club 47 in Cambridge, MA. > >Mark Domyancich >_______________________________________________________ with 'yours truly' in attendance, although not on the 4th. i guess i should post about this someday. although it wasn't the first time i saw Joni perform, this is clearly one of my fondest memories. in fact the high point of a year that got progressively worse as time went on. not just for me, but for the entire country. these January shows took place just days after the Tet Offensive. although i saw the news reports on TV, it would be another week or two before i knew how many of my friends wouldn't be coming home again, ever. i miss my friends. they deserved better than to die for nothing. damn. the *probable* dates for the January '68 shows are the 3rd thru the 7th. Joni was also at the Club 47 on the 28th & 29th of April 1967, along with then-husband Chuck Mitchell. the recording 'in circulation' is NOT necessarily from one show. it's not a typical SetList and there are obvious breaks. i'm still working on filling in the missing details. some of this information is difficult after all these years. for now ~ take care, - ------- simon - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:16:59 -0800 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Joni may? perform again. SMEBD@aol.com writes ... >__________________________________________________________________________ >A friend of mine who knows of my love of Joni just gave me a copy of the >January 2000 (Issue 154) ICE: The CD News Authority because there is a >one page article about Joni and the upcoming "Both Sides Now" CD. In the >>article Larry Klein talks about the track list for "Both Sides Now". > >The last paragraph of the articles states: > >"The limited-edition version of "Both Sides Now" features artwork >exclusively designed by Mitchell, and hits stores just in time for >Valentine's Day. Klein tells ICE that Mitchell hopes to do some >orchestral >shows to promote the album, as well as several dates with >Hancock and >Shorter. Klein also believes the "Stormy Weather" concert will be made >>available to the public at some time in the future." > >Someone was asking about the limited-edition package. My understanding >is that the limited-edition will be a satin "candy box" with several >individual lithographs of artwork along with a book of lyrics and notes. > >Stephen >__________________________________________________________________________ the thought of Joni performing with Herbie and Wayne is something that has always intrigued me. after all, they're old friends and soul mates. it's hard to imagine more sympathetic musicians to accompany Joni, especially if Brian Blade is along on drums. Wayne & Herbie are graduates of the University of Miles! Davis, where Joni first encountered them whilst studying the music herself. Joni has always given one simple answer to the question ... "Who are your main influences?" she's always said "Lyrically-Bob Dylan Musically-Miles! Davis." CaTGirl writes ... >______________________________________________________________________ >Subject: Re: Joni may perform again!! > >In a message dated 1/4/2000 10:18:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, >SMEBD@aol.com writes: > >>OH OH OH HOw exciting!! If she tours I will be there too. I might >even fly to LA to see her (why the hell not!!) As far as the cd goes >even if it it expensive I plan on buying TWO!! I can never get enough >JONI!! WHOOO-HOOO! >Catgirl >______________________________________________________________________ Deb, don't get your hopes up. i'll believe this when i've got a ticket in my grubby little hands. the economics of Touring with an orchestra are prohibitive! besides, there a difference between _some orchestral shows_ and a Tour. it has occurred to me that a 'limited' number of shows with an established orchestra are a possibility. most likely to occur in Los Angeles and/or New York. unlikely anywhere else. on the other hand, it was recently reported to me that a close associate of Joni's was asked about the possibility of her Touring behind the new album. his answer? "No Way!" i DO hope he's wrong, but doubt it. HE'D know. just in case ... Have Credit Card, Can Fly Anywhere! for now ~ take care, - ------- simon - ------- Remember, there's a difference between kneeling down and bending over -- FZ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:17:01 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: PRICK (very NJC, but... :-) In a message dated 1/5/00 1:34:46 PM US Central Standard Time, chris@secure-si.co.uk writes: << Oh my word. This is just crying out for something to be done with it. Complete the following:- There was an espiscopal bishop named Spong Who... >> There once was a bishop named Spong Who was blessed with a 20-inch dong But the old lengthy culprit Popped out in the pulpit And made the man's sermons run "LONG"... Bob's evil twin strikes again... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:50:25 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: What ONE album would you loan? > I think "Blue" would be a safer bet since some of the songs are > recognizable and downright catchy. (and I have 2 copies ;-) ) > It's an odd thing. I loaned out 'Blue' & 'Hejira' to a co-worker. He really liked 'Blue' and didn't get into 'Hejira' much. I loaned another co-worker (my boss, actually) 'Blue' & 'Turbulent Indigo'. She loved 'Turbulent Indigo' more than she liked 'Blue'. She said she played TI alot when she had company over & got a lot of compliments on her taste in music! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:31:02 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: What ONE album would you loan? In a message dated 1/5/00 8:55:53 PM US Central Standard Time, evian@sk.sympatico.ca writes: << I think a compilation tape of songs from those albums, in the right order, would be good to indoctrinate the non-Joniphiles. >> Or better yet, in a random order...the fatal flaw with giving ONE record to someone to represent Joni is that she is so multi-genre'd; If I give Clouds or LOTC to someone who enjoys folk music, and they like it and then got out on their own and pick up DED or Mingus or even TTT, they're going to be a little put-out. I mean somebody like Tom Petty, you can buy any of his records and you're gonna get a good product, but there's not a lot of difference I can hear in them over a 25 year period. In a similar vein I have tried to direct folks who enjoyed XTC's "Apple Venus" to a similar sounding XTC record. They wouldn't necessarily like some of the band's other work just because they like this one, which is actually pretty atypical of their work. In introducing someone to Joni, the point is not what her songs "sound like" or what style she plays in, but rather that she is a musician and songwriter of unparalleled proportion. I'm just not sure you can do that with one record, although for someone who appreciates good songs, Hejira comes darn close. Also, I got my "Joni Mitchell Companion" today...so a big Catgirl "WHOO-HOO" from me! I've only thumbed through it, and am anxious to dig into it! Thanks again to Laura for the coupon - my copy was a mere $5.95!! Awesome! Stacy, are you going to be at the New Orleans Jonifest so we can get you to autograph our copies? NP: Seal, "Human Being" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:44:31 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: RE: PRICK (very NJC, but... :-) - --- Chris Marshall wrote: > On Wednesday, January 05, 2000 5:28 PM, Siresorrow@aol.com > [SMTP:Siresorrow@aol.com] wrote: > > there is an interesting book out by an episcopal bishop named Spong called > > > Oh my word. This is just crying out for something to be done > with it. > > Complete the following:- > > There was an espiscopal bishop named Spong > Whose wife said he did it all wrong He put a match to the thing And held down the spring And took a big hit from the bong > > I'll give a prize(*) for the best lymeric to continue this. > > --Chris > > Chris Marshall > Secure Systems Integration Ltd > Web: http://www.secure-si.co.uk/ > Tel: +44 (0) 7970 459 553 > Fax: +44 (0) 1954 201 741 > E-mail: chris@secure-si.co.uk > PGP key: http://www.secure-si.co.uk/chris/pubkey.txt > Fingerprint: 49F7 5132 C599 6ADC 47E7 844E A612 3F53 > > (*) The prize bit might be a lie... > ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:55:43 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: LACE interview Jamie asked: > Could someone send me the post with the transcribed LACE interview? I only resub-bed yesterday so >I missed it! You haven't missed it. I just heard from our generous volunteer transcriptionist that it is almost ready. I'm sure it was a huge job with Joni talking a mile a minute and trying to get through the static. It's being sent to me soon and I will fill in any remaining blanks and then we will post it in parts to the list. Kakki NP: Joni - The DJRD album (inspired by hearing of the Jaco/Chris performance in London ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:13:59 +1300 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: What ONE album would you loan? Bob said: >Really & truly, what I would IDEALLY do (and what I have >done) is to make a compilation tape (or CD now, I suppose) >of an overview of Joni's stuff...maybe Hits & Misses would >serve the same purpose (?) Personally, I think Miles of Aisles would do pretty well. There's the catchy "pop" songs, then the more sombre songs like Woman of Heart and Mind and Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire, then the electric set with Jericho etc. - one of my favourites, even possibly vying for first place at the moment, although that changes on a weekly basis! Helen _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz - -----Original Message----- From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org Date: Thursday, 6 January 2000 05:31 Subject: Re: What ONE album would you loan? > >Bob > >NP: Rickie Lee Jones, "Rebel Rebel" > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:15:29 +1300 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Flying High! conspiracy cover up NJC Alan wrote: >Yes, it would appear that the "Airplane!" movies were renamed "Flying High!" >for the Australian market. There *is* a conspiracy!! (If they were called >the "Airplane" movies in New Zealand, I'm really in trouble!) Damn - almost got away with my little faux pas! If only I'd kept my mouth shut! Unfortunately they were renamed here too, and "Flying High" was the correct title! Helen _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:33:12 +1300 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Jonifest - NJC Bob wrote: >Stacy, are you going to be at the New Orleans Jonifest so we can get you to >autograph our copies? Speaking of New Orleans, I was feeling unbelievably optimistic at work today (thinking I was going to win some money in one of the many competitions I've entered recently for this purpose) so I looked up all the fares and accommodation costs of my coming to Jonifest. And the grand total? NZD$4880 - about USD$2500. Not much when you say it quickly! But there's still 4 months to go, so I'm staying positive! Helen (Think "money", think "Jonifest". Think "money", think "Jonifest") P.S. Not sure why I made this NJC - to scared not too, I think! _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:39:26 +1300 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Spong (NJC) Wallyk, the bard, wrote: >there once was a bishop named spong >wont to wear only a thong >he stood high at the altar >and he never did falter >while the ladies sighed over his schlong Wally, Wally, Wally! Boy, did I laugh over this one! I was going to attempt it myself but I've been outclassed before I even start! But of course, not ALL the ladies would be sighing...... Helen _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:41:58 +1300 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: SEX and RELIGION NJC but very Joni! Vince wrote: >As Dan Rowe is concerned, properly, with sex and religion in the JMDL, >and since I am an ordained cleric who has read about sex, I am qualified >to make the following statements: and Helen makes a BIG , which is a shame, because this really deserves to be submitted twice! Great stuff! We could publish all these parodies/limerics/stories and make a fortune.....HEY! It might pay my way to Jonifest!!! Helen _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 02:42:29 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Spong (NJC) and as colin pointed out, many a boy would too!!! > Wally, Wally, Wally! Boy, did I laugh over this one! I was going to > attempt it myself but I've been outclassed before I even start! > > But of course, not ALL the ladies would be sighing...... > > Helen ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #8 *************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?