From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #3 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Monday, January 3 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 003 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- New Year Resolution NJC ["Eric Taylor" ] Re: 1st Joni of the Year ["Jennifer L. Nodine" ] RE: New Year Reflection ["Wally Kairuz" ] Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! [mann@chicagonet.ne] Joni Mitchell Companion at Varsitybooks [mann@chicagonet.net] Re: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! [IVPAUL42@aol.c] Re: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! ["Jennifer L. N] Re: Jewelry Store Joni, and Giving ["Ken (Slarty)" ] Re: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! [catman ] HAPPY NEW MILLENNIUM! NJC [Vince Lavieri ] Re: top 5 of 99 (njc) [Jason Maloney ] Re: 1st Joni of the Year [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! [mann@chicagone] Re: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! [IVPAUL42@aol.c] Hats off to Pearl's son (& everyone gets a hat!) [mann@chicagonet.net] Re: New Year Reflection [Catherine Turley ] "interesting to note..." ["P. Henry" ] Re: HAPPY NEW MILLENNIUM! NJC [Brian Gross ] Re: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! [IVPAUL42@aol.c] Re: RE: New Year Reflection NJC [john low ] early 3rd millenium jmdl gathering... 01/03/00 [Bounced Message ] Re: New Year Resolution NJC [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 05:04:25 -0800 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: New Year Resolution NJC Hey all you beautiful Siquombites~~~ My New Year-Century-Millennium Resolution is to share critical info without worrying about repercussions. So here is an article which eloquently expresses a concern I've had for too many years.... E.T. ~~~~ Did White Supremacists Kill Nicole Simpson? On the evening of June 12, 1994, Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman were slaughtered in Los Angeles and for several years the nation's consciousness was focused on an event that, in its superficial external circumstances, corresponds to the oldest and most pejorative racist stereotype in this country's history: the image of the hyper-aggressive, hyper-libidinous black male lusting after, possessing and destroying the white female. Few events in recent memory have occupied more media attention than the O.J. Simpson case. Yet, for all the coverage, the facts of this case have become obscured to a considerable extent. Neither the Los Angeles legal system nor the national media establishment have done their jobs properly, and the result has been that truth has been added to the list of victims in this case. For all the coverage, few Americans are aware of the fact that the Los Angeles County grand jury refused to indict O.J., the fact that a mock jury in Arizona voted 12 to 3 to acquit and even fewer are aware of numerous elements of physical evidence indicating that, not only did O.J. Simpson not commit the crime, but that it was physically impossible for him to have done it. Curiously, although there has been much discussion of the "racial divide" that the case has exposed (and, perhaps, exacerbated) the political implications of the case have also escaped attention to a considerable extent. In particular, the so-called progressive political sector has ignored the implications of what may very well be one of the most profound American political events of the second half of the century. Future issues of Other Means will discuss books that analyze the physical evidence in the case physical evidence that exonerates O.J. Simpson. In addition, future discussion will analyze the possibility that the killing of Ron and Nicole and the framing of O.J. may have been a domestic intelligence operation staged by a faction of the intelligence community. Of all the books written about the case, one of the most important (and largely unrecognized) works points to elements of the white supremacist movement as the perpetrators of the crime. In the summer of 1996, Rainbow Books released Blood Oath: The Conspiracy to Murder Nicole Brown Simpson, authored by Steven Worth and Carl Jaspers. This book centers on the allegations of an anonymous informant, code-named "Skinner" by the authors, who maintains that he was a member- of the strike team that dispatched Nicole and Ron and framed O.J. "Skinner" claims that the crime, code-named "Operation Thunderbolt," was committed by a powerful, deadly organization named "C.A.U.S.E." - an acronym standing for Christian Aryan Underground Special Enforcers. According to the information presented in Blood Oath, the operation was timed to celebrate the tenth anniversary of the murder of Denver radio talk show host, Alan Berg, murdered in June of 1984 by a Nazi group called "The Order." Operation Thunderbolt, according to Skinner, was basically a "psy- op" - a psychological operation aimed at accomplishing several goals. The operation was intended to polarize race relations in the United States with the ultimate goal of precipitating a race war, to discredit law enforcement in general and the LAPD in particular, and to discredit and, ultimately, force alterations in, the judicial system. The operation was, according to Blood Oath, carried out by an elite, six-man strike team composed of law enforcement and military veterans (including at least one ex-Green Beret), several of whom had covert operations experience while serving in the military. The operation was allegedly financed by an unnamed foreign terrorist group with unlimited assets. (The group is not named, but, from the context, it appears that it was probably a German Nazi group. It should be noted in this context that The Order was also the beneficiary of German financing.) The team coordinated their efforts with other elements of their organization inside the LAPD and L.A. County Sheriffs department as well as other elements inside the coroner's office. According to Skinner, the team utilized the latest in electronic surveillance and communication equipment and had both O.J.'s and Nicole's residences electronically and physically surveilled, with their phones and intercoms bugged. In addition, the team had obtained a sample of O.J.'s blood through a team member who was a blood and DNA specialist at a hospital at which O.J. had had surgery. During the aftermath of the Northridge earthquake of January, 1994, the C.A.U.S.E. team entered O.J.'s residence posing as utility workers and obtained clothing and shoes of his to be planted at the scene of the crime and to be worn during the committing of the killings. The team also, according to Skinner, had a white Bronco identical to O.J.'s, to which they attached O.J.'s license plate. After the team committed the killings and planted the famous glove and O.J.'s blood, the C.A.U.S.E. insiders in the police department steered the investigation in the direction of O.J. Skinner also told the authors that the existence of the Mark Fuhrman tapes was leaked to the defense team in order to discredit the police department and to further polarize race relations in the United States and Los Angeles. Skinner also maintains that the same organization executed the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal Building, an act that led him to come forward in hopes of preventing more bloodshed. It is unlikely that a full verification of Skinner's claims will ever be achieved. The account presented by Skinner is consistent with the facts of the case, although the authors feel that the account may also contain some disinformation. The authors also note a number of other facts and evidentiary tributaries which tend to corroborate Skinner's story. It should also be noted that Steven Singular, author of Legacy of Deception (Dove Books, copyright 1995) was contacted by an anonymous source within the Los Angeles legal system because of his work on the book, Talked to Death, about The Order's murder of Alan Berg (the anniversary of which Operation Thunderbolt was intended to celebrate). Singular's source contacted him because he claimed that neo-Nazis weren't just on the fringes of society anymore. They were inside "the system" and were doing a great deal of harm. This is consistent with what Skinner told Worth and Jaspers. In addition, information presented in Killing Time. The First Full Investigation, by Donald Freed and Raymond Briggs (Macmillan, copyright 1996), is consistent with what Skinner told the authors. In Killing Time, the authors point out that both O.J. and Nicole had been receiving both written and telephoned death threats from white supremacists, some of them delivered in person by members of L.A. law enforcement sympathetic to the white supremacist movement, a fact that was known to the FBI. In addition, Freed and Briggs point out that Nicole was being stalked by people she didn't know and that she had asked O.J. and his friends to come by and make sure she was OK - information consistent with what Skinner told Worth and Jaspers. The interview that follows was conducted in July of 1996 and highlights the central points of Blood Oath. Tape Cassettes of it are available from Spitfire, PO. Box 1179, Ben Lomond, CA 95005. Although complete verification of the story is, as stated above, unlikely to be achieved, it is this editor's opinion that Blood Oath is, for the most part, accurate and may very well be something of an understatement. There is some evidence suggesting the possibility that elements of the intelligence community may well have been involved in the Simpson case. Perhaps the penetration of Los Angeles law enforcement by the C.A.U.S.E. group mirrors similar penetration of the National Security Establishment by white supremacists, a possibility that will be discussed in future issues of Other Means. In that case, "the Generals" (the name given to the commanders of the blind cell that functioned at the operational level in the Simpson case) may have involved elements within the intelligence community. It should be noted that the blind cellular methodology utilized by the C.A.U.S.E. group, according to Skinner, is consistent with the "leaderless resistance" strategy devised by Aryan Nation's leader, Louis Beam. This tactic involves the formation of small, independent cells of white supremacists to preclude the possibility of infiltration and penetration by law enforcement. Dave Emory Other Means Magazine Summer 1997 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 07:59:21 -0500 From: "Jennifer L. Nodine" Subject: Re: 1st Joni of the Year The first music I listened to was Zeppelin because my father in law was hogging the radio and there was a Zep marathon on that he wouldn't let me change. But I brought my Hejira CD and wouldn't go to bed until I heard it. I ended up staying up way too late, but Joni was worth it. I settled in bed, feeling complete. - -Jenny in CT ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:16:20 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: New Year Reflection oh john! i loved the sidney telecast!!!! to tell you the truth, i had always hated the sidney opera until the other night. it looked so impressive with all those guys walking all over it roof. aside from sidney, my favorite telecasts were the wedding in sweden [all that ice and darkness!! my idea of heaven!] bjork singing the anchor song in icelandic, sunrise at the offshore oil plant in norway and the choir in the argentine glaciers. i think i spent about 22 hours watching tv and eating curry chicken, lemon rice and marzipan. what a sick way to begin/finish [i'm still not sure] the last year of the millennium. wallyk > Both my wife and I hate crowds and the prospect of going into the city > to watch six million dollars of public money, so badly needed > elsewhere, go pointlessly up in smoke over Sydney Harbour did not have > much appeal. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 09:27:44 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! 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You can buy The Joni Mitchell Companion here for $11.25 or FREE with the coupons: Go to: http://www.varsitybooks.com Use the coupon: Bonus2 and you will get $20 off a $25 order plus free shipping. or use the code: BONUS1 to get $20 off $25 and free shipping TIP: Try to order IN STOCK items only so you don't experience any problems with the coupons. Just put "Joni Mitchell" in the Search Box and you'll see all the books they have that are Joni related. For those of you, like me, who didn't catch this great offer FIRST and already ordered Joni books ........they have other good books too.........also children's books. Just put in the Title or Author in the search box.......chances are good they have it. They also have coloring books that are inexpensive if you have a dollar or two left to spend. Have fun with this one! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:07:46 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! In a message dated 1/2/00 10:32:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, mann@chicagonet.net writes: << Wishing everyone a healthy and happy New Millenium...........here's some coupons to get you started! Laura >> Thanks for the good wishes -- ONE WHOLE YEAR in advance. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 11:19:15 -0500 From: "Jennifer L. Nodine" Subject: Re: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/2/00 10:32:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, > mann@chicagonet.net writes: > > << Wishing everyone a healthy and happy > New Millenium...........here's some coupons > to get you started! > > Laura >> > > Thanks for the good wishes -- ONE WHOLE YEAR in advance. > > Paul I Isn't it great to have people like this around to correct our little mistakes? PLEASE, correct me if I've made any spelling errors! - -Jenny ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 11:38:05 -0500 From: "Ken (Slarty)" Subject: Re: Jewelry Store Joni, and Giving I did hear a Muzak version of a Joni song a while back that was, as you say, the album version with the vocal cut out. I don't remember though if it was Jericho. I've also heard The Byrds "Turn Turn Turn" done the same way on Muzak. Louis Lynch wrote: > Hi all, > > I just returned from the jewelry store to have a watch adjusted. I heard a > Muzak version of "Jericho" that sounded just like the album version, without > the vocals. They even had Jaco's bass line down to a tee. Does anyone know > if this is the real Joni thing, or are the people at Muzak growing more > talented. > > Also, in response to Don Rowe's question. This Christmas, I gave: > > 4 Hejira > 2 Turbulent Indigo > 2 Court & Spark > 1 Hits > > Plus, I quit smoking Christmas Day, and I am now the most miserable, bitchy, > irritable and ugly harpist in the world. These withdrawal symptoms are for > the birds! > > Regards, > > Harper Lou ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 17:00:16 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! Jennifer L. Nodine wrote: > IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > > > > In a message dated 1/2/00 10:32:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > mann@chicagonet.net writes: > > > > << Wishing everyone a healthy and happy > > New Millenium...........here's some coupons > > to get you started! > > > > Laura >> > > > > Thanks for the good wishes -- ONE WHOLE YEAR in advance. > Great to see our Paul is still here and still one up on everyone else.Happy New Year. > > Paul I > > Isn't it great to have people like this around to correct our little > mistakes? PLEASE, correct me if I've made any spelling errors! > > -Jenny - -- To change the world-change your self "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:12:55 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: NJC JMDL Sports Penny wrote: > Jimdle sports: > > On the Bowl scene, congrats you JMDL fans of Wisconsin, Michigan, and > Michigan State. Great games to watch! And yesterday, congrats to you, > too, Lori, the displaced Duck. ;-) > > Smiles > Penny > After recovering from the downs and ups and downs and ups and ups and downs and ups of last night's Orange Bowl, I am singing "Hail! To the Victors Valiant!" all day, in honor of the mighty Michigan Wolverines... what a game, what a win! As for Lori the (Oregon) Duck, is this our UN Lori? My email to UN Lori has been bouncing back, so Lori, in France, please email me so I can correct whatever flaw I have in my address for you! And thanks, Penny, for the bowl greetings; we were all up so late here with the game, that this morning's worship service actually started a few minutes late... (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:57:47 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: HAPPY NEW MILLENNIUM! NJC Laura in Chicago, Thanks for all the coupons! We must be related, or else is it a Chicago thing, since when I moved to Michigan my mom enclosed in every letter an assortment of coupons... I do so hope that everyone is who not grateful for the coupons or finds reasons to be snippy and corrects others will awake and find that all their Joni stuff has turned into Lou Bega's Mambo #5 and that as in Kafka's Metamorphis, nothing can be done... (the Rev) Vince PS: My spell check is not happy with the way I spelled "Metamorphis" so I await a correction somewhere... ... and Laura, who in the JMDL can get tickets for the Titanic thing at the Museum of Science and Industry that begins in February? We should have a group outing of midwest JMDLers ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 18:58:13 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: top 5 of 99 (njc) evian wrote: > 5. Notting Hill (call me sappy, but I really liked it) LOL...evian, you are *not* sappy for liking Notting Hill !! It's a delightful film, a blessed relief from some of the more overblown and histrionic movies of recent times. For a more detailed review (plug plug!), see the Recommended section of my Website's film archive at : http://freespace.virgin.net/jason.maloney/Recommended.html Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:21:05 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: 1st Joni of the Year I'm embarrassed to say my first Joni of the year was Janet Jackson singing "Got 'Til It's Gone." I had a New Year's Eve party, and dance music was the *only* music that was allowed. I figured it was the only way to get a quick Joni fix without being screamed at by my rowdy friends and family. I was finally able to listen to "Hejira" while cleaning up the mess yesterday afternoon. aaaahhhhhh Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 13:34:58 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Re: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! Oh, Paul.......quit being so technical!!! BTW how do you write 2000 in Romal Numerals???? Is it XXM? Some trivia that's good to know! Laura :-) IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/2/00 10:32:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, > mann@chicagonet.net writes: > > << Wishing everyone a healthy and happy > New Millenium...........here's some coupons > to get you started! > > Laura >> > > Thanks for the good wishes -- ONE WHOLE YEAR in advance. > > Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:07:37 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! In a message dated 1/2/00 2:39:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, mann@chicagonet.net writes: << Oh, Paul.......quit being so technical!!! BTW how do you write 2000 in Romal Numerals???? Is it XXM? Some trivia that's good to know! Laura :-) >> There being no ZERO in Roman numerals, it is MM. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 17:00:44 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Hats off to Pearl's son (& everyone gets a hat!) Pearl was the first to email me and let me know that her 16 year-old son correctly identified the year 2000 in Roman Numerals - MM - Paul's email confirmed this and was a close runner-up! FREE HAT's FOR EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!! Free "Dunk" Hat from Shaquille's New Website. This website has amazing graphics....but takes a very long time to load. Be patient, you'll receive a free "dunk" hat just by completing a short form. (click on GET A FREE HAT) http://www.dunk.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 17:51:39 -0700 From: Catherine Turley Subject: Re: New Year Reflection Wally Kairuz wrote: > i think i spent about 22 hours watching tv and eating curry chicken, lemon > rice and marzipan. what a sick way to begin/finish [i'm still not sure] the > last year of the millennium.. > wallyk Hi Wally-- I greeted 2000 in much the same way--watching tv for endless hours. My vomiting child tubed my plans for dinner out and a party with friends, and I was disappointed, of course, but now I'm actually glad I stayed home and watched the time zone to time zone coverage, which I certainly wouldn't have done had it not been for the flu. After several hours it began to sink in what a unique moment in human history we all lived through, not so much because of the change in the calendar, but because of our connectedness. I'm not sure when else in history almost every one on earth has been aware of and celebrated a single event on a single day, and watched each other as it happened. I thought about how relatively recently (in the long sweep of history) entire continents and hemispheres were ignorant of one other, and how only in the last hundred years or less have we agreed upon on international standards of reckoning time, and only in the last ten or twenty years have we had the technology to "see" almost everywhere on the globe via satellite. And add to that web and net technology--as the tv coverage switched from zone to zone I found myself thinking of people I know only through that technology, mostly other listers--watching the Argentine choirs on the glaciers (hello Wally K), seeing the Hallelujah chorus sung in Tongan! (hello Handel lovers/hello Handel haters!) watching Brian Kennedy perform from Dublin (hello everyone who was so enamoured with him during the Joni/Bob/Van mini tour--I get it now). I must have had a dozen moments like that. I was surprised at how inspiring I found the whole experience--I know that the change of date didn't solve a single world problem, but it was moving to see people from around the globe show off for the rest of the planet, and if only for a few minutes, to see humanity put on its best face. It really started to get to me--I had to take a break from it all, and felt like if I saw one more fresh faced child in national costume joyfully participating in a native custom with an equally joyful elder, I would out with a millennial big boo hoo. So I went to the supermarket (on New Year's Eve, duh, I know) and managed still to feel kindly towards the elderly woman in the enormous car who nearly ran me down in the parking lot, and even towards the harried young mom with kids in tow who snatched away the last shopping cart at the door as I was reaching for it. So if all that television viewing could fill me with such good feeling, I'd say it was a darn good way to greet the new year. Raising my glass of Pedialyte to you all, Catherine T. in AZ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 16:57:42 -0800 From: "P. Henry" Subject: "interesting to note..." aside from the dutiful recording of her induction in Cleveland and, in the jazz category, her participation in the tribute to Gershwin alng with her peers, Wonder and Hancock, (truly a grouping worthy of Joni) in the new Britannica online there appears this more permanent reference under the heading of... "literature Lyric poetry Lyric poetry never gets far from its origins, except that some of its finest examples--Medieval Latin, Provengal, Middle High German, Middle French, Renaissance--which today are only read, were actually written to be sung. In the 20th century, however, popular songs of great literary merit have become increasingly common--for example, the songs of Bertolt Brecht and Kurt Weill in German, of Georges Brassens and Anne Sylvestre in French, and of Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, and Joni Mitchell. It is interesting to note that, in periods when the culture values artificiality, the lyric becomes stereotyped. Then, after a while, the poets revolt and, usually turning to folk origins, restore to lyric poetry at least the appearance of naturalness and spontaneity." pat NP: Woman of heart and mind Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:22:18 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: HAPPY NEW MILLENNIUM! NJC - --- Vince Lavieri wrote: > Laura in Chicago, > > Thanks for all the coupons! <> > ... and Laura, who in the JMDL can get tickets for the Titanic thing at > the Museum of Science and Industry that begins in February? Laura is SOOO good, I bet she could get discount tickets for the whole bunch of us on the maiden voyage of the real thing!! Happy New Year everyone (only 363 more days till the new millenium) Brian npimh: All the crazy cries of loving ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:30:30 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Here's to a HEALTHY, HAPPY & well-read NEW MILLENIUM! In a message dated 1/2/00 10:50:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, johnsonjs@earthlink.net writes: << Paul, I don't get it!! What are you trying to point out by making that statement? What - Laura didn't send her New Year's post before midnight on Friday, so now she is not credible? Are we bound to a designated time frame to wish others a happy and healthy New Year? >> You are right. You don't get it. The Second Millenium ends at the END of 2000, when we ring in 2001. This so-called millenium celebration this past weekend was premature, the creation of advertising people and those others who could not wait for the correct date and wanted to jump the gun. The only thing that ended on Dec. 31, 1999 was the decade of the '90s.The century and millenium begin/end NEXT New Year's. Happy New Year! Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:41:48 +1100 From: john low Subject: Re: RE: New Year Reflection NJC Wally K wrote: I’m sorry if I sounded like a bit of a 'party-pooper', Wally. I did see TV coverage of the Sydney fireworks (and celebrations in other cities around the world) the following day and it was spectacular, I agree. It’s just that, with so many people in need in Sydney and our schools and hospitals seriously under-funded (and so much money already re-directed to the Olympic preparations), I can’t help feeling that 6 million dollars was somewhat extravagant for a couple of minutes of excitement. However, the young girl singing in the millenium at the very top of the Opera House, with the city and the harbour spread out below, was a nice touch, I thought. I’m glad you enjoyed it all, though, and I hope you’ll forgive me for acting like the Grouch in Sesame Street when everyone else was obviously having a good time. John (the old grump in Sydney) __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 21:52:37 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: early 3rd millenium jmdl gathering... 01/03/00 From: "patrick leader" Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:00:47 -0500 here's the plan, for any of you in the nyc area that would like to join us... david lahm, of 'jazz takes on joni mitchell' fame, is playing tomorrow night at 'judy's chelsea', a cabaret in manhattan. in the bar, from 6 to 10 pm. i've wanted to hear him live for a long time now, so we're meeting at judy's around 7:30 169 eighth avenue, betw. 18th and 19th streets... ashara, kenny, kay and i are definite, and anyone out there who wants to join us, please do. good food is served. good music will be served. good conversation, as well, between songs. i'm looking forward to meeting mr. lahm, indeed... patrick jfp - some bette, for a tape ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 22:47:29 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Update on Wally's Health Thanks to everyone who sent holiday cards and greetings to Wally. Here's a health update courtesy of Wally's best friend, Jim. "Wally coasted into 2000 feeling pretty good on New Year's Eve. We donned funny hats and had a toast courtesy of Martinelli's, followed by sugary "ritual sips" of Sobe Wisdom, Energy and Power, then turned off the lights in the living room to see the fireworks over SF Bay. Our relaxed celebration was a direct contrast to the preceding week. After an uneven Christmas holiday, overwhelming fatigue, nausea and pain became almost unbearable, and he felt more and more miserable as the week progressed. We got in touch with his doctor on Friday, and on New Year's Eve I picked up a morphine prescription that made him considerably more comfortable. Although the the meds make him groggy, he's actually awake more since he enjoys feeling better and it's worth staying up for! He'll be talking to his surgeon next week about a rigorous but sometimes successful operation that will allow him to eat and regain some of his strength. If the surgery is too invasive for him to tolerate, or if the doctor thinks it won't do any good, the options are to try to find some tolerable source of nourishment to keep him going longer, or to just do whatever it takes to keep him comfortable. He's trying to be optimistic, but it's perfectly natural to also be "walking on eggs" right now. Wally feels pretty low sometimes, but when he bounces back there are still some good times to be had. He's up and about tonight playing with the stereo and the TV, getting himself drinks, fretting over the plants that have always thrived under his green thumb (my thumb is green enough, but somewhat forgetful). We're just sitting around talking about this n' that, like we always do. Works for me." I delivered the last of the holiday cards to Wally today, along with a copy of the "Both Sides Now" radio interview (thank you Kakki). I will keep you all updated as I receive news of Wally's progress. Happy New Year - I keep all of you in my wishes and prayers. Leslie Mixon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:53:08 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: New Year Resolution NJC Hi Eric, Enjoyed reading the theory: >>Did White Supremacists Kill Nicole Simpson? But to be truthful I'm so mind numbed from holiday encounters with relatives, 2 millon football games, New Years as it happened 'round the globe on CNN, etc.....that right now I don't think I could ponder something as heavy as a cartoonists' conspiracy to frame Lisa Simpson. Smiles Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2000 #3 *************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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