From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #577 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Sunday, December 26 1999 Volume 04 : Number 577 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: confessions on Xmas eve [catman ] Re: Religious imagery in Joni's songs NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Religious imagery in Joni's songs [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] I DO BELONG! ["Jennifer L. Nodine" ] Christmas Blues/Prayers [RainbowCrystal@webtv.net] Re: Religious imagery in Joni's songs NJC [MDESTE1@aol.com] Millennium Countdown #7 [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Re: Millennium Countdown #7 [FMYFL@aol.com] RE: Millennium Countdown #7 ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Religious imagery in Joni's songs NJC [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Joni Interview tape tree [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: confessions on Xmas eve NJC ["Eric Taylor" ] Enjoy All the Warmth - from Pat [badwolff@angelfire.com (Pat)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 11:48:52 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: confessions on Xmas eve Jennifer L. Nodine wrote: > To all you fellow JMDLers. I am a Jehovah's Witness. Probably the only > one on the list. well maybe I am the only ex JW on the list. I am saddened to read you are feeling so alone and sad. I recall Xmas was a hard time when 'in the truth' all those years ago. Even harder when you are defellowshipped. But time does heal.love colin > I just wanted to say thaks to the list for making me > feel like I belong to somewhere, when really I belong nowhere. I have > been writing for sometime now, but haven't been moved enough to write > about my "alome" feelings until now. WallyK has helped me tremendously > and I want to thank him. He is one of the most compassionate people I > know, and I don't even know him very well. The world needs so many more > Wally's and so many less crybabies like me. > -sad jenny from CT - -- those who believe in the inerrancy of the bible actually believe in the inerrancy of their own judgement and interpretations. "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 09:45:12 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Religious imagery in Joni's songs NJC In a message dated 12/24/99 11:39:35 PM US Central Standard Time, jlhall01@snet.net writes: << I am seriously struggling with my own at this time :-( as tears stream from my eyes on Christmas Eve. >> Jenny, don't be saddened or dismayed by your struggle...indeed, if we trace the spiritual growth in our lives, the "spikes" always take place in a time of crisis. So rather, be encouraged - you are just going through a "spiritual growth spurt" right now! The other issue here is that Christmas, while it can be a time of great joy, can likewise be a time of intense melancholy, because if we believe everything that is fed to us, it's a time when families all get together, everyone is happy, all is calm, all is bright, etc. Obviously, that's not the way it is. When sadness hits us at Christmastime, we can tend to think that there's something WRONG with us because we're not experiencing Christmas properly... Anyway, you know that there are lots of friends here for you to confirm to you how special you are, regardless of your specific religious beliefs. Seek, and you will find... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 09:48:02 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Religious imagery in Joni's songs In a message dated 12/24/99 11:53:43 PM US Central Standard Time, wallykai@interserver.com.ar writes: << this was discussed at one point. i think that in the recent past joni expressed an inclination for buddhism. >> I would say more accurately that Joni couldn't be pegged into a specific denomination or religion; rather her personal belief system is a combination of religions of the world, philosophy and art. Call it "Joni-ism"! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 10:17:12 -0500 From: "Jennifer L. Nodine" Subject: I DO BELONG! Feeling pretty depressed last night I thanked the list for making me "feel like I belong somewhere even though I really belong nowhere." I TAKE THAT BACK! This is the one community in the world that takes me for who I am and doesn't try to change me. People come and go in our lives but I think that I'll still be writing to many of you when I'm 70. I'm thanking the list for being the most accepting and warm group of people I know, and for being (maybe the only) place in the world that I do truly belong. Much happier in CT, Jenny ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 05:50:07 -1000 (HST) From: RainbowCrystal@webtv.net Subject: Christmas Blues/Prayers I heard Carlos Santana on the radio talking about his new album. He was saying if they played more Christmas Blues songs in public places like stores and elevators, that there would be less depression and suicides at this time of year, because good blues actually make people happy, plus it makes them less lonely to know that they aren't alone in their sadness. Jennifer it sounds like you are questionng your faith. "Seek and you shall find' is good advice; also "Be Still and Know". "Illusions" by Richard Bach is a good little inspirational book--"What would you do if God spoke directly to you and commanded that you be happy every moment?" I had an incredible Solstice/Full Moon, camping at a place called "Green Lake." The moon rose orange like the sunrise over the ocean-- very clear and conducive to prayers of World Peace and Harmony. If anyone gets a chance to visit the Big Island let me know and I would love to play "tour guide'. Later today I plan to keep with my own personal "Holiday Tradition" of going to the beach! Saw a whale yesterday! Love and Blessings to you all. Aloha from Rainbow ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 12:06:07 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Religious imagery in Joni's songs NJC All I know is that with the moon closer to the planet earth than it has been in decades it is likely that we feel greater "emotional" feelings. Its actually a gravitational pulling on the fluids in our body. marcel. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 09:18:43 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Millennium Countdown #7 # 7 Handel * * * * heeheehee, just kidding! ;-D Actual countdown # 7 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart Merry Christmas everyone! Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 12:34:52 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Millennium Countdown #7 << # 7 Handel >> OK, I'm just kidding on this one but I have to do it. Handel wrote "The Messiah." Bob Muller does not like the Messiah. Bob Muller is on the JMDL and loves Joni Mitchell. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 19:36:01 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Millennium Countdown #7 i don't know if this one counts. if doesn't , bob please have mercy and don't yell at me on xmas day. when joni was asked in an interview if she was a musician's musician, she answered: "well it takes the salieris to know who the mozarts are." wallyk > Actual countdown # 7 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart > > > Merry Christmas everyone! > > > Penny ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 00:07:39 +0000 From: catman Subject: Bedroom Scene NJC Imagine the scene-both of us in bed-trembling and so hot and sweaty. Drinks to hand. Plenty of tissue for those annoying body fluids. Little capsules ready to be popped out of that little box marked Beechams Flu remedy. Yes, Santa sent us the 'flu for Xmas. - -- those who believe in the inerrancy of the bible actually believe in the inerrancy of their own judgement and interpretations. "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 19:54:42 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Religious imagery in Joni's songs NJC In a message dated 12/25/99 12:08:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, MDESTE1@aol.com writes: << All I know is that with the moon closer to the planet earth than it has been in decades it is likely that we feel greater "emotional" feelings. Its actually a gravitational pulling on the fluids in our body. marcel. >> i have been on this planet for 38 years and i would have to say this is for me, very very accurate. i watched the moon this week as the clouds cleared and felt the gravity move my emotions by the hour. and the tides have been quite extreme as well. that makes the body feel the same. swollen and over drawn. it almost seems that the front end of a big moon is quite favorable and the back end ...well that just sucks. pat ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 23:01:18 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Interview tape tree In a message dated 12/23/1999 11:00:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, kakkib@att.net writes: << > Patti in Dallas here, willing and able to receive Joni interview tape/CD and > make CD copies for any interested. My address: > Patti Haskins > 222 S. Rosemont Ave. > Dallas, TX 75208 YAY Patti! I only have a tape to offer but will send one right out to you! Thanks! Kakki, going to address the envelope right now ;-) >> I would like to get a Cd of this. so Pattie, Do you want me to mail you a blank or do you want to do a trade? Catgirl coming out of hiding...very busy...you know..life...yikes!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 23:58:30 -0500 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: confessions on Xmas eve NJC Jennifer shared: << To all you fellow JMDLers. I am a Jehovah's Witness. Probably the only one on the list. I just wanted to say thanks to the list for making me feel like I belong to somewhere, when really I belong nowhere. I have been writing for sometime now, but haven't been moved enough to write about my "alone" feelings until now. >> I usually feel sad at Christmas time too. There's even a name for it - Seasonal Affective Disorder (S.A.D.). I think it's part sunlight depravation, part crazy shoppers & drivers. One thing I admire about Jehovah's Witnesses is they don't participate in this materialistic orgy we've made of Jesus' birth. Since 1976 I've usually gone camping on Christmas. Gazing at the fire & stars is good medicine. Last Saturday I went camping with my brother & some high school buddies. We set up a huge tarp & spread bales of hay under it to sleep in. It was a manger! & the snow was wonderful!! The only thing I did this Christmas was visit my 93 year old friend in a nursing home. She has no family & I woke up thinking of her. I took Ann out for lunch only to discover that everything was closed - even McDonalds! We drove around looking for a Chinese restaurant or Jewish Deli & finally found a Toot-n-Scoot gas station with a few tables. We had hot dogs & hot chocolate. I gave her a large print Bible & she gave me an ornament that she'd made in a craft class. It might sound dull but it was the best Christmas I've had in many years. 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