From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #568 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Monday, December 20 1999 Volume 04 : Number 568 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: calling all music sluts (njc) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: A search for clarity. (Long!) [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: calling all music sluts (njc) [Jason Maloney ] Re: Seasonal Films & Happy Christmas Jmdlers!! [Bounced Message ] Re: Do 3 Threads Make a Braid? NJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] box set? [Sarah Schuckman ] Top Five Releases of 1999 (unfortunately, NJC) [Les Irvin ] ah, for the simple life (NJC) [Bounced Message ] Re: Do 3 Threads Make a Braid? NJC [catman ] Re: Lana's Christmas (NJC) [catman ] Re: Do 3 Threads Make a Braid? NJC [catman ] Re: Do 3 Threads Make a Braid? NJC [Catherine Turley ] Re: Do 3 Threads Make a Braid? NJC ["rick novosel" ] NJC: Favorite Christmas cd [Julie Webb ] Both Sides Now [Leslie Mixon ] Both Sides Now - page 2 [Leslie Mixon ] Paved Paradise [Bounced Message ] Ronin NJC [john low ] Fw: Help - Joni interview on KCSN 88.5 FM Tuesday 12/21 ["Kakki" Subject: RE: calling all music sluts (njc) i think i've reached the peak of musical slut-hood today. i bought geri halliwell's [formerly of the spice girls] cd. i love "look at me" and i had to buy it! while still in my role of listening-station tramp, i picked an mtv compilation of hits from the 80's [wake me up before you go go! talking in your sleep! walk like an egyptian!] and i'm playing it right now, full blast at 6 am. the heatwave coming in from the amazon must be affecting me deeply. wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 04:17:48 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Grover Washington Jr. (NJC) I am deeply bereaved by the passing of this great musician. His music has meant so much to my family over the years. I recall all six of the kids in our clan playing "air saxophone" together to his "Mister Magic" until we wore the LP out. The legend goes that as a young man he was unsatistfied with his sax prowess, so he would go out to the Brooklyn bridge at night and practice alone until sun-up every day until he was satisfied. This quote from him captures his spirit nicely, i think: "Every time I play in front of an audience, I think, 'This might be the last time,' " Mr. Washington said. "I try to make every day, every note, every thought count. Let the music happen; play what you feel from your heart. It should always be fun." God rest his soul, - -Julius NP: Grover Washington, "Mister Magic" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:28:47 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: more rooting for joni if you're still in the mood for more polls, go to the address below and vote JONI [and alice munro too please!!!] http://www.canoe.ca/CANOE2000/polls_jam.html#2 wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 08:10:04 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: A search for clarity. (Long!) john: Bravo! This is as insightful a piece as I have ever seen on the synergetic nature of Joni's art and music. "...repetition without examination is death." Nice. Very apropos of our Joan. I'm looking forward to your next installment! - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:50:11 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: calling all music sluts (njc) Hello all my good good people (and my very best season's greetings and goodwill to every one of you!) I'm just emerging from one of my occasional non-participation periods, so I'm pretty behind on most of the recent threads. Things haven't been so great for me lately, hence the enforced sabbatical from e-mails. Anyhow, I couldn't resist the posts from Evian and WallyK.....unashamed music-slut that I am too ;o) Evian, you are not hallucinating! The track "Motortown" was indeed by The Kane Gang, and was a minor US hit in the summer of 1987. For some reason, it never cracked the UK Top 40. The album it's from - Miracle - is a wonderful record. I got it on CD at the time, and still have it. If you'd like me to tape it for you, just let me know :-) One day I wil get a Kane Gang Best Of, since they have done a handful of other excellent tracks...Closest Thing To Heaven, Gun Law and Small Town Creed. As for Wally...well, anyone who's visited my website will know that I am a huge admirer of most things Spice, and Geri in particular ;-) They have made some cracking pop singles (and the albums weren't too bad either), while the solo releases by Geri and Mel C have been most impressive. Glad you like Schizophonic! It's a fine pop album. I'm also currently immersed in Geri's autobiography, If Only. It makes for very candid and sometimes eye-opening reading. For someone so hell-bent on stardom and obsessed with being famous and loved, she has a surprisingly perceptive and self-effacing mindset. It's very hard not to like her, for all her faults. 1999 hasn't been an especially vintage year for mainstream music IMHO, but there are still some gems amongst the often depressing dross. I'll be compiling my list of favourite records from the year soon (as I always do), and I'm having slightly more difficulty than usual in finding a significant number of really fine releases. Jason. Wally Kairuz wrote: > i think i've reached the peak of musical slut-hood today. i bought geri > halliwell's [formerly of the spice girls] cd. i love "look at me" and i had > to buy it! while still in my role of listening-station tramp, i picked an > mtv compilation of hits from the 80's [wake me up before you go go! talking > in your sleep! walk like an egyptian!] and i'm playing it right now, full > blast at 6 am. the heatwave coming in from the amazon must be affecting me > deeply. > wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:37:32 -0500 From: waytoblu@mindspring.com Subject: Re: open mics > >So my first open mic experience was a very good one!! I can't wait to go >back. :) And your tips helped a lot! I felt like I knew what was going to >happen. I also knew I would mess up a little, which also happened, but it >wasn't too bad. > >I really liked the environment at the place I went to. It's called the >Skylight Exchange here in Chapel Hill, NC.. have any of you ever been >here? I go to UNC. I used to go to the Skylight Exchange very often. John Gillespie used to run a songwriter's night there and I saw Nikki Meets the Hibachi play at the Skylight a few times. It has a really nice environment. We don't really have a place like it in Atlanta. Victor NP: The Cheiftains-Long Black Veil >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:16:03 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: calling all music sluts (njc) In a message dated 12/19/99 1:01:58 AM US Central Standard Time, evian@sk.sympatico.ca writes: << Also, does anyone remember a song from around the same time called "Let Me In"? >> Evian, you are like some kind of Cheese Magnet or something...as you know, I can't be of any help to you in your search for 80's music as I pretty much turned off the radio and played my own collection of stuff at this point...much like I do now! But this mention of yours reminded me of some 70's cheese...remember John Travolta's "Let Her In"? Boy, was that grody! And then there was "Cinnamon, Let Me In", by I don't know who, also pretty weak. Thanks a lot, now I've got this musical cheese bouncing around in my brain! :~( Bob NP: Ron Sexsmith, "Still Time" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:43:25 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: calling all music sluts (njc) Bob (who now resides in Wisconsin) writes: << But this mention of yours reminded me of some 70's cheese...remember John Travolta's "Let Her In"? Boy, was that grody! And then there was "Cinnamon, Let Me In", by I don't know who, also pretty weak. Thanks a lot, now I've got this musical cheese bouncing around in my brain! :~( >> Don't forget about the Osmonds wonderful cheesy tune of "Let Me In" Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:06:53 -0800 From: "rick novosel" Subject: Re: Do 3 Threads Make a Braid? NJC Thread One: A little note to anyone on the lookout for the very high tides associated with this moon: > December 22 > Winter solstice is at 2:44 a.m. EST > The moon is at perigee (221,614 miles from Earth), 5:55 a.m. EST > Full moon is at 12:31 p.m. EST> Be sure to check your local tide charts for the exact day the high tides can be expected in your area. Here in Vancouver the highest tides won't happen till the 25th and 26th. Thread Two: >From: catman >We haven't had a tree for years cos of the cats! The secret to having a tree coexist with cats is making sure your tree is tethered to the ceiling and nearby walls. In our case we use nearly-invisible fishing line and stickpins. Our oldest cat came into our household on Christmas Day 12 years ago and has a mystical attraction to the tree: As soon as we put it up she sleeps nowhere else but under the tree. We have to leave some room among the presents to make sure she has a spot. Thread Three: >From: Emily Kirk Gray >Subject: Seasonal Movies (NJC) >first off, i have to admit (yikes!) that i have NEVER, >NOT ONCE EVER seen either "miracle on 34th street" or >"it's a wonderful life." Emily, I've never seen "Miracle" either and when I got around to watching "Wonderful Life" last year I found it a depressing movie. Poor James Stewart never got to do anything HE wanted to do in life! :( >in terms of what i HAVE seen, a sentimental favorite for me >(and aren't all seasonal movies chosen for this reason, at >least in part -- defensive, anyone? let it go, emily!) >is this Sesame Street Christmas videotape that my family >plays on christmas eve. >- -- emily Is that the one where Bert and Ernie sing "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas"? My favorite Christmas song and rendition of all time. Best Wishes to everyone on the List (Hey, even the pagans have an extra special something to look forward to this year! :)) Rick, staring out the window at even more rain. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:38:30 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Re: Seasonal Films & Happy Christmas Jmdlers!! From: FMYFL@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 10:05:22 EST John Low writes: << Anyway, what I am trying to say is simply THANKS – to all of you! When I decided to sub.scribe I didn’t expect to hang around too long. Now I don’t want to leave. And special thanks, of course, to Les and Wally who make this whole Joni Mitchell internet experience possible. HAPPY CHRISTMAS JMDLERS!!! >> What a beautiful post John. That's one that you could have posted 114 times like you did with "Meeting with Ashara in Sydney" . I still remember all those emails. LOL Merry Christmas to you too!!! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:37:44 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Lana's Christmas (NJC) From: "Takats, Angela" Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:02:52 +1100 Hey Guys, I'm so behind these posts...I've been pretty down lately...one of my closest friends - a total angel of a girl - has just found out she has a tumor in her brain. I've never met anyone as beautiful on the inside and out as Lana, she is one of those people who smiles her way through every day, a smile that makes you smile.... After weeks of stress from her final exams she sat in my room last week and we were having one of those great girly days...talking hair and make-up and love and kisses...and she was saying she wanted a change, to mark the end of high school and the beginning of the new Lana..so she decided then and there that she'd get her hair all cut off (Lana has lovely deep red curly hair that flows past her shoulders) and she was so excited when we got to the hairdresser half an hour later, so excited that she was taking the risk, not having told anyone, not her mum or her boyfriend, she being daring.....so the hair fell to the ground and the new Lana rose from the chair with gorgeous red short curls framing her happy face...we both squeeled as we stepped out the door - she looked so devine....we giggled through the afternoon and she said she couldn't wait to show everyone... Lana arrived home smiling that afternoon, but for some reason both her parents were home early from work....they had bad news...her MRI had found something - a tumor in her brain....they took her to her boyfriends house, he opened the door and exclaimed how much he 'loved' her hair...but then he saw the tears in her eyes.... She has been coping so well over the past few days...better than her friends and family...I told her I would come to visit her in the hospital everyday - and that I'd bring my guitar and play for her, she got so excited when i suggested that - "oh yay Ange!", she smiled, "we can make this fun, don't worry, it'll be fine"....her spirit amazes me Ange Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:14:50 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Do 3 Threads Make a Braid? NJC Rick wrote: << I got around to watching "Wonderful Life" last year I found it a depressing movie. Poor James Stewart never got to do anything HE wanted to do in life! :( >> True, Rick, but he discovered what a wonderful life he HAD...the point of the film. Like John Lennon said, "life's what happens to you while you're busy making other plans". Probably my favorite quote of all time... << Is that the one where Bert and Ernie sing "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas"? My favorite Christmas song and rendition of all time. >> And in your own little bit of synchronicity, Jim Henson got the names Bert & Ernie from where? That's right, the cab driver and the policeman in "It's a Wonderful Life"! Wow, what a coinkadinky! Bob PS: GREAT subject title!! :~) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:19:56 -0500 (EST) From: Sarah Schuckman Subject: box set? Hello all! :) I was wondering if a box set for Joni Mitchell even exists... I want to ask for it for christmas if it does. :) Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:15:01 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Top Five Releases of 1999 (unfortunately, NJC) It's time. IMHO, the Top Five Releases of 1999: 1) Beth Orton "Central Reservation" 2) Tom Waits "Mule Variations" 3) Natalie Merchant "Live in Concert" 4) Mary Gauthier "Drag Queens in Limousines" 5) Cassandra Wilson "Traveling Miles" Les NP: Marian's "All Along The Watchtower" from JoniFest '99 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:23:55 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: ah, for the simple life (NJC) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 18:26:06 -0500 From: Anne Rickaby << Ah the 90's....you know it's time to change decades when.... >> >> 1. You try to enter your password on the microwave. >> >> 2. You haven't played solitaire with real cards in years. >> >> 3. You have a list of 15 phone numbers to reach your family of 3. >> >> 4. You e-mail your buddy who works at the desk next to you. >> >> 5. You chat several times a day with someone from South America, >> but you haven't spoken to your next door neighbor yet this year. HI WALLY!!!! >> >> 6. You buy a computer and a week later it is out of date. >> >> 7. Your reason for not staying in touch with friends is that they do >> not have e-mail addresses. >> >> 8. You consider the U.S. Mail painfully slow and/or call it "snail >> mail". >> >> 9. Your idea of being organized is multiple colored post-it notes. >> >> 10. You hear most of your jokes via email instead of in person. >> >> 11. When you go home after a long day at work you still answer the >> phone in a business manner. >> >> 12. When you make phone calls from home, you accidentally insert a >> "9" to get an outside line. >> >> 13. You've sat at the same desk for four years and worked for three >> different companies. >> >> 14. Your company's welcome sign is attached with Velcro. >> >> 15. Your resume is on a diskette in your pocket. >> >> 16. You really get excited about a 1.7% pay rise. >> >> 17. You learn about your redundancy on the 11 o'clock news. >> >> 18. Your biggest loss from a system crash was when you lost all of >> your best jokes. >> >> 19. Your supervisor doesn't have the ability to do your job. >> >> 20. Contractors outnumber permanent staff and are more likely to get >> long-service awards. >> >> 21. Board members salaries are higher than all the Third World >> countries annual budgets combined. >> >> 22. It's dark when you drive to and from work, even in the summer. >> >> 23. You know exactly how many days you've got left until you retire. >> >> 24. Interviewees, despite not having the relevant knowledge or >> experience, terminate the interview when told of the starting salary. >> >> 25. You see a good looking, smart person and you know it must be a >> visitor. >> >> 26. Free food left over from meetings is your staple diet. >> >> 27. Your supervisor gets a brand-new state-of-the-art laptop with >> all the latest features, while you have time to go for lunch while >> yours >> boots up. >> >> 28. Being sick is defined as you can't walk or you're in the >> hospital. >> >> 29. You're already late on the assignment you just got. >> >> 30. There's no money in the budget for the five permanent staff your >> department is short of, but they can afford four full-time management >> consultants advising your boss's boss on strategy. >> >> 31. Vacation time is something you roll over to next year. >> >> 32. Every week another brown collection envelope comes around >> because someone you DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WORKED HERE is leaving. >> >> 33. Your relatives and family describe your job as "works with >> computers". >> >> 34. The only reason you recognize your kids is because their >> pictures are on your desk. >> >> 35. You only have makeup for fluorescent lighting. >> >> >> AND THE CLINCHERS ARE >> 36. You read this entire list, and kept nodding and smiling. >> >> 37. As you read this list, you think about forwarding it to your >> "friends you send jokes to" e-mail group. >> >> 38. It crosses your mind that your jokes group may have seen this >> list already, but you don't have time to check so you forward it >> anyway. >> >> AND I'M ADDING THESE: 39. Your conversation is peppered with 3-letter acronyms, especially 'IPO." 40. You've started adding the "http" in front of URLs again because now you actually understand what it means. 41. You did ALL your holiday shopping online... 42. ...and the Fedex guy not only knows you by name, but also knows where you usually order from. 43. You look at printed catalogs only to get the URL. 44. You can imitate the elves saying 'gutter ball' in elf bowling. 45. Your 'colleagues' are no more than half your age, seem to be twice as smart, and will probably be ten times richer than you. - ------------------- Anne Sandstrom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:31:18 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Do 3 Threads Make a Braid? NJC > > > Thread Two: > >From: catman > > >We haven't had a tree for years cos of the cats! > > The secret to having a tree coexist with cats is making sure your tree is > tethered to the ceiling and nearby walls. In our case we use > nearly-invisible fishing line and stickpins. > > Our oldest cat came into our household on Christmas Day 12 years ago and has > a mystical attraction to the tree: As soon as we put it up she sleeps > nowhere else but under the tree. We have to leave some room among the > presents to make sure she has a spot. yes-but what about the dangly things and the tinsel etc? Ours used to just launch themsleves at the tree and then the dogs would get all butch and go for them. It was a nightmare.So our house has no xmas stuff. Many of the houses round here are all lit p-so much I am sure you could see them from space. Deer and Father Xmas' stand outside all it up, the houses and trees all lit up. Obviouslt the people around here have been watching too much American tv. We used to be quite civilised and tasteful about Xmas!!! bw colin > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:01:04 +0100 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: Plug Of The Week #49 Hi there, Thanks to dear friend Russ Paris ( of Jackson Browne Website fame! ), I recently got familiar with a couple of great CD's by a band from San Diego, California : Joel Rafael Band - "Joel Rafael Band", "Old Wood Barn" and the brand new one, "Hopper" ( All released on the Reluctant Angel label ) Joel Rafael was born in Chicago, Illinois and raised in the San Gabriel Valley suburbs of Los Angeles. It was the folk music of the 60's the really ignited his spark for music. He studied the writing, and performing styles, of Woody Guthrie, Pete Seeger, Joan Baez, Bob Dylan and Peter, Paul & Mary, among others. During the 70's, 80's and early 90's Joel performed around the San Diego County in various groups, including a duo with Rosie Flores. As a solo performer he opened shows for the likes of Crosby Stills & Nash, Sheryl Crow, Laura Nyro, Rosanne Cash, John Sebastian and Taj Mahal. Joel was a 1994 finalist and 1995 winner of the Kerrville Folk Festival's New Emerging Songwriter award. His "Old Wood Barn" album was selected as a GAVIN "Americana" pick. Based on the earthy and honest style of the 60's folk movement, but full of relevance for the twenty-first century, the songs of Joel Rafael are both unique and familiar; familiar because they are authentic, and unique because they speak to us about our lives, here and now. The Joel Rafael Band is : Joel Rafael on guitar and vocals, Jamaica Rafael on violins and vocals, Carl Johnson on lead guitar, Dan Rotchild on bass and Jeff Berkley on percussion. The band is managed by Cree Clover, who also works for Jackson Browne. The brand new album, "Hopper" ( release date, January 8 ), will feature some great, original songs by Joel Rafael, "China Basin Dogs", which is a Rafael - John Trudell composition ( John does also appear on the song! ) and "Minor Key", written by Woody Guthrie and Billy Bragg. Copies of all three of these albums are available from : Reluctant Angel Records PO Box 357 Bonsall, CA 92003 U.S.A. Phone: 760 - 749 - 0813 Fax: 760 - 749 - 8011 Email: rangel420@aol.com jrafael@flash.net Website: http://www.flash.net/~jrafael/ Thank you, Russ - I owe you one! Take care, Peter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:33:59 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Lana's Christmas (NJC) Angela-how terribly sad. Life can appear to be really shitty at times. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:38:15 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Do 3 Threads Make a Braid? NJC I have only seen this film once, ages ago. I took the point to be that tho he felt his life had been mispent, he had in fact affected many other peoples lives for the good. Something we could all bebar in mind when we feel low and useless and feeling we don't live up to much in this world where material success counts far more than who you are. I don't think the 'new millenium' is likely to bring about many changes in a hurry. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:05:44 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Top Five Releases of 1999 (unfortunately, NJC) This is the first year for years that i have NOT bought any cd's at all. Not a video either. Only been to the cinema three times. Am I complaing of being poor? NO WAY! We finally bought a house, our home. Finally we have peace and quiet. I can walk the streets and not feel threatended or be asaulted. I can leave my front door unlocked. I can leave the car unlocked with stuff inside it. The dogs can play in the garden and not get things chucked at them or stolen. I can sit indoors all day long and not hear one sound from outside my home. I can sleep the whole night thru without waking up. I can listen to music and tv or radio loud enough for me to hear as i don't have to be able to listen for trouble. I can actually sit an watch a whole film on the tv without getting up to check things out. My neck and shoulders don't ache all the time from being 'ready'. I am not afraid my pc will get stolen. I can go out and know my home will be intact when i return. I don't have 'good xtians' preaching at my door or warning the nieghbours that friendship with us will lead to Hell. I walk down the street and people smile and say hello-and i don't know them. I say hello and smile to people who work in shops and they respond. the checkout people all smile and say hello and ask how I am. I go for long walks with the dogs and don't hurry. I no longer drive miles away after midnight just to walk them. I no longer have to stifle my 'crazy cries of love'. We found a church which we attend every Sunday where we are accepted as we are and are not expected to change, nor are we seen as odd or less than, or inherently sinful, and where love is not witheld from us. True Christianity at work, where Jesus is not used as a weapon of hate. And our neighbours, an ordinary family, have invited us to Xmas dinner. Never give up hoping and always keep your faith, heaven may be just around the corner. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:23:31 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: Top Five Releases of 1999 (unfortunately, NJC) Colin, I know we have not seen eye-to-eye this year, and I get the feeling you no longer *trust* me, but whatever differences we have, I am still delighted to hear of these wonderful improvements, even to your life. I would not wish ill on anyone, and I hope this *heaven* continues for you. From my own experiences, I know how vital such changes can be. Jason. catman wrote: > This is the first year for years that i have NOT bought any cd's at all. > Not a video either. Only been to the cinema three times. > Am I complaing of being poor? NO WAY! We finally bought a house, our > home. Finally we have peace and quiet. I can walk the streets and not > feel threatended or be asaulted. I can leave my front door unlocked. I > can leave the car unlocked with stuff inside it. The dogs can play in > the garden and not get things chucked at them or stolen. I can sit > indoors all day long and not hear one sound from outside my home. I can > sleep the whole night thru without waking up. I can listen to music and > tv or radio loud enough for me to hear as i don't have to be able to > listen for trouble. > I can actually sit an watch a whole film on the tv without getting up to > check things out. My neck and shoulders don't ache all the time from > being 'ready'. I am not afraid my pc will get stolen. I can go out and > know my home will be intact when i return. I don't have 'good xtians' > preaching at my door or warning the nieghbours that friendship with us > will lead to Hell. > I walk down the street and people smile and say hello-and i don't know > them. I say hello and smile to people who work in shops and they > respond. the checkout people all smile and say hello and ask how I am. > I go for long walks with the dogs and don't hurry. I no longer drive > miles away after midnight just to walk them. > I no longer have to stifle my 'crazy cries of love'. > We found a church which we attend every Sunday where we are accepted as > we are and are not expected to change, nor are we seen as odd or less > than, or inherently sinful, and where love is not witheld from us. True > Christianity at work, where Jesus is not used as a weapon of hate. > And our neighbours, an ordinary family, have invited us to Xmas dinner. > > Never give up hoping and always keep your faith, heaven may be just > around the corner. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:14:57 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: A Joni Christmas Tree Season's Greetings to JMDL'ers everywhere! Now that you're done picking up gifts for everybody on your list, it's time to treat yourself to the gift that keeps on giving. No, I'm not talking about a case of the clap, silly, I'm talking about Jonistuff! I'm offering up the following things to copy for whoever out there in Joniland wants them: Thing One: Joni plays Jazzfest in New Orleans, 5/6/95 This is a wonderful recording, and a significant one too. Joni premieres the VG8 and plays it in public for the first time. It's like when you were riding your first bike, you were a little wobbly and nervous, buy you made it and soon were rolling on along. This show is much in that kind of spirit. She starts out with a "heavy metal" version of "Sex Kills", with the same setting like the one she kicks off "Lead Balloon" with. She really enjoys herself throughout the show, laughs a lot, especially when she flubs with her new toy. In the middle of "Song For Sharon", she says, "This song's got a lot of words!" Here's the whole setlist: Sex Kills Moon At The Window Magdalene Laundries Refuge of The Road Night Ride Home Crazy Cries of Love Yvette in English Just Like This Train Three Great Stimulants Amelia Hejira Happiness is the Best Facelift Song For Sharon The quality is incredible; It sounds like soundboard quality. It'll take a 90 minute cassette or a CD. However, the CD will omit "Magdalene" to make it fit on a single disc. Thing Two: Interview This was a radio interview that Joni did the day Turbulent Indigo came out in 1994 on KSCA in Santa Monica. Great interview, Joni as always speaks on a wide array of subjects, is very playful and funny, especially talking about facelifts, she had me LOL'ing a couple times. She also has a collection of guitars, and picks them up to play the following songs: Sunny Sunday Crazy Cries of Love/Love's Cries Sex Kills Moon At The Window Facelift Just Like This Train Again, the sound is impeccable, since it was off the radio. It'll all fit on 1 CD or on a 60 minute tape. If you liked the RockMaster Class interview, this is a nice companion, I think. Thing Three: Tribute Who are Irma Schultz, Jack Mittleman, Anders Kotz, & Ola Swenson? No, they're not folks that Peter Holmstead has plugged this year, they're Swedish musicians who got together to do a Joni tribute and recorded a CD called "A Bird That Whistles-Songs of Joni Mitchell". It is a very pretty, very respectful project. They put enough of their own spin on the songs yet keep the feel of the original as well. I love covers and tribute projects anyway, so I'm a sucker for this one. Here are the songs they perform: Free Man In Paris A Bird That Whistles Chelsea Morning A Case of You This Flight Tonight Urge For Going Night Ride Home Twisted Hejira The Silky Veils of Ardor Woodstock I researched and tried to make sure this is not still commercially available. If it is still available, somebody tell me and I'll withdraw my offer. But otherwise, this is a treat that you'll enjoy! Obviously, it'll transfer to 1 CD, if you prefer cassette tape then it'll fit on a 60 or one side of a 90 (It's 43 minutes long). So there ya' go...1 concert, 1 interview, 1 tribute. 3 CD's or 2 60's & a 90. Of course, you don't HAVE to get all three, if you just want 1 or 2 that's totally cool...just specify what you want with a note in your package- whaddya think, I'm a mindreader for God's sake?! :~) Hopefully, by now you know the routine...put your unrecorded media in a self-addressed stamped envelope, and send it on to: Bob Muller 309 West Prentiss Ave. Greenville, SC 29605 IMPORTANT NOTE: IF YOU'RE SENDING ME CD'S TO RECORD ON, MAKE SURE THEY ARE "MUSIC" OR "AUDIO" CD'S. MY MACHINE CAN'T RECORD ON THE LESS EXPENSIVE ONES THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR DATA OR PROFESSIONAL MACHINES. If you have any questions about this or about any of it let me know. And if you're in some foreign (or as we like to say here in the South, 'fer-un') country, obviously the SASE thing doesn't work with you, but don't despair! We are creative folk and we can find a bold, adventurous way to get you your Joni. Maybe somebody from the UK with a CD burner could step up and volunteer to be a UK branch, likewise for you Canucks...we can conquer the "tyranny of distance"! ;~) And if you don't want ANY of this stuff, let me say that I admire you very deeply for living your monk-like life of deprivation and selflessness! :~) Bob, not a monk but rather a friar - a CD fryer that is! :~D NP: A Bird That Whistles, "Urge For Going" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:33:29 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Do 3 Threads Make a Braid? NJC In a message dated 12/19/99 6:35:04 PM US Central Standard Time, catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk writes: << Obviouslt the people around here have been watching too much American tv. We used to be quite civilised and tasteful about Xmas!!! >> I agree with you 108% about that one, Colin. We went to a Christmas party last night, and the houses in the neighborhood seemed to be COMPETING with each other as far as lights and tacky yard displays were concerned...lights in bushes and even draped to the tops of tall trees, lights outlining the garage door, blinking, multi-colored, icicle lights everywhere, lit up snowmen, Santas, baby Jesuses, you name it! Very gross. You'd be proud of us though...all we do is hang a wreath on the front of our house. Your statement reminds me of something I heard a man from Mexico say, "In Mexico we have *Christmas*, in America you have *presents*'." Sad but mostly true. Bob NP: A Bird That Whistles, "The Silky Veils of Ardor" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:38:40 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Lana's Christmas (NJC) > She has been coping so well over the past few days...better than her friends > and family...I told her I would come to visit her in the hospital everyday - > and that I'd bring my guitar and play for her, she got so excited when i > suggested that - "oh yay Ange!", she smiled, "we can make this fun, don't > worry, it'll be fine"....her spirit amazes me > > Ange > Sydney Thanks so much for sharing this, Ange. Your friend sounds like an amazing person. Her spirit with the help of yours and of all those who love her will carry her through this, I'm sure. I'll send some positive energy & warm thoughts her way. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:56:16 -0700 From: Catherine Turley Subject: Re: Do 3 Threads Make a Braid? NJC Sorry, but I have to jump in and grouse here, too. SCJoniBob wrote: > We went to a Christmas party last night, and the houses in the neighborhood > seemed to be COMPETING with > each other as far as lights and tacky yard displays were concerned...lights > in bushes and even draped to the tops of tall trees, lights outlining the > garage door, blinking, multi-colored, icicle lights everywhere, lit up > snowmen, Santas, baby Jesuses, you name it! Very gross. You'd be proud of us > though...all we do is hang a wreath on the front of our house.. This is exactly what is happening on my cul-de-sac. We have opted for lights in our front windows and a wreath and garland around the door, but every other house is fully lit--bushes, trees, cacti, plus enormous fake candy canes, lighted plastic snowmen (in the desert!), Santas, sleighs, nativity scenes. Two houses have holiday projectors--they shine multi-colored holiday messages on the entire garage door or side of a house. One neighbor has put lights in a cross hatch pattern across the expanse of his rock front yard. None of that is exactly my style, but my five year old likes it, and its festive in a really gaudy way. However, I'm getting a little cranky about it after the very neighbor who asked to come in and smell my REAL Christmas tree made a few not very nice remarks to me about my house being the darkest on the street. Oy! Throwing up my hands . . . Catherine T. in AZ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:30:38 -0800 From: "rick novosel" Subject: Re: Do 3 Threads Make a Braid? NJC Bob answered my musing about It's a Wonderful Life: > True, Rick, but he discovered what a wonderful life he HAD...the point of the > film. Like John Lennon said, "life's what happens to you while you're busy > making other plans". Probably my favorite quote of all time... Yes, Bob, I did get the point of film but I guess I'm just a little too selfish to agree with it ;) > And in > your own little bit of synchronicity, Jim Henson got the names Bert & Ernie > from where? That's right, the cab driver and the policeman in "It's a > Wonderful Life"! Wow, what a coinkadinky! Yes again, that is truly cosmic and I love Bert and Ernie but still don't like the film. Are B & E still on Sesame Street? Or as they bastardized it here in Canada, Sesame Park. Take care, Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 08:27:36 -0500 From: Julie Webb Subject: NJC: Favorite Christmas cd My current favorite Christmas cd is Jane Siberry's "Child." I think it may be one of the best holiday album's since Guaraldi 'A Charlie Brown Christmas'. I remember reading that jmdlers, Patrick Leader and Doug Wolfbite so enjoyed seeing Jane's holiday show in New York last year. This cd gives you an emotional and humourous---- mesmerizing blend of Siberry originals and obscure yet wonderful vintage hymns, a sassy spirited Hannukkah-Klemzer song and carols from France, Poland, England and Germany. You've gotta listen to the angelic four-part harmonies on 'Mary's Lullaby,' and on the other end of the spectrum-----way at other end----there is the hilarious "Hockey" song where Jane playfully and affectionally sings the "F" word what seems like a million times----this song makesfor an awkward "easy-listening" mini-van experience for this soccer mom: My 7 year old son asked, "Did that lady really just sing the "F" word alotta times?" Jane can sound knowing or wide-eyed, childlike or maternal. What could seem fey and self-indulgent is, instead, playful and exploratory. Parts of her song/poem, "You Will Be Born,/Precious Candle Your Light Is Your Own " is very special and meaningful----not so much every phrase and lyric but the way she sings them: "You Will Be Born" [Siberry] 1.You will be born into a Strange and Desolate place 2.It will be called "The Average Home" 3.The times will be Restless and full of Uncertainty. 4.It will be full of violence. The end of the century. 5.You will Silently question this of your mother as you drink your milk, and you watch her Move Away 6.And there will be no answer 7.You will begin the long process of shutting down 8.Your countenance will reflect less light and later when you look at pictures of yourself 9.You will wonder 10.You will give up your backbone to the T.V. and you will accept a value system 11.Putting forth Lies and Hatred and Intolerance as acceptable in the name of Love 12.No one will step forward from the Shadows saying, "Expect this. It's Part of the Path" 13.You will discover Drugs and Alcohol 14.And you will have a good time 15.You will have a good time for a long, long time 16.And you will have a good, good time for a long, long, oh way too long time 17.And you will rush headlong towards your 18.Bottom Line in an Instinctive attempt to Heal yourself 19.You will finally go to AA to learn what you should have learned in Sunday School 20.And then you will give yourself permission to cry. And you will cry and cry 21.And your friends will move away nervously 22.And you'll feel like a Fool 23.And you will be alone, and no one will step forward from the Shadows saying "The Journey Forward Includes Movement Through Despair and Darkness" And you will be gathering Strength even if you don't understand And certain words like LOVE and...Integrity and Intensity will be drawn into your Spine. And Then One Day... You will look up And you will look over You will look up and you will look over And you will get up And you will go over And You Will Turn Off the T.V.... Precious Candles your Light is your own" -Julie ZWebb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:39:41 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Both Sides Now The weekend started out wonderfully - first row seats, Art Deco picture palace (Sacramento's Crest Theatre) and Judy Collins giving a Christmas Concert. She came out with a 12-string Martin acoustic guitar, black silk charmeuse long skirt, black, bodice hugging sparkly jacket, head full of platinum hair and those opalescent eyes. After singing but a few notes, Steve and I were both choked up. The voice is as beautiful as ever, crystalline, dynamic range with unbelievable sustain. Song number two on the program was "Both Sides Now," Judy on guitar accompanied by a (grand) piano player. A wonderful family event and the audience (along with the Sacramento Men's Chorus) sang along on many of the Christmas Carols. Judy even recited "The Night Before Christmas." This event truly stimulated the Christmas spirit. Today we visited with Wally Breese - Joni sent him a prototype of the "special package" "Both Sides Now". I thought of the song, "Tin Angel," "...tucked in satin boxes are reflections of love's memories..." Wally and I listened to the album twice, all the way through. Joni's voice sounded better than I expected - and to hear "A Case of You" and "Both Sides Now" sung both as an ingenue (original recording) and as a grown woman is quite an experience. I think of this recording as Joni's Millenium gift - I can't wait till we've all had a listen and can share the wonderment. This weekend was my Christmas gift - I feel so grateful, thankful and satisfied. I had a fantasy while driving (from Santa Cruz to Sacramento to San Francisco and back to Santa Cruz) of a concert at the Crest Theatre - three women with acoustic guitars swapping songs and stories - the 3 Js - Judy, Joan and Joni. Ah, what a beautiful dream. Dream on dreamer. Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:52:27 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Both Sides Now - page 2 I forgot to mention that Joni chose 3 people to "thank" in the album credits - #1 Wally Breese, #2 Paul Starr and #3 Don Freed. Robbie Cavalino told Wally that the rest of the thank yous were from Larry Klein, including Joni's parents! Pretty impressive, eh? Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:06:20 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Paved Paradise From: "Brian Workman" Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 19:20:10 -0500 Last week or the week before) there was a post re: a performance of Paved Paradise at the Barns of Wolf Trap on 23 Jan. Could whoever posted that let me know where they found that out. The wolf trap web site, the Washing Post, and the Wolf Trap ticket number knows nothing about it. I want desperately to see it, so if it's happening, I'm there! Bedublyu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 99 5:17:00 PM From: john low Subject: Ronin NJC Hey Jason, I finally got around to hiring “Ronin” from the local video shop. Now I know what ‘Ronin’ are !!! It is definitely a superior thriller, helped enormously by good acting, great atmosphere, exotic (for me anyway) location and, of course, exciting, well-directed action. The night scene, buying guns on the banks of the Seine was riveting stuff, as were the scenes in the arena towards the latter part of the film. And the car chases! Well, you were right, they are worthy successors to the “Bullitt” original. Steve McQueen would definitely have approved, I think. They are probably the best I’ve seen since he bounced and swerved around the streets of San Francisco! Having said this, I’m not sure I completely understood the plot’s final resolution. Perhaps it is a film one needs to see a couple of times. I keep asking myself – did I get everything? I presume that we are never actually told what is in the briefcase and that the De Niro character’s target was not the briefcase at all, but something (or rather someone) else entirely? I think I’ve given enough away, so I won’t say anything more in case someone else wants to see it. However, despite these niggling uncertainties, I did enjoy it. Have you (or anyone else) seen the British comedy/drama “Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels”? I just watched it a few nights ago. Another, though very different, roller coaster of a film! And very funny, in a dark sort of way. I loved the (minor) character of the Liverpool hood, played by ‘Ron’ from the British TV comedy series “Goodnight Sweetheart” (which my family enjoy and which is showing in repeats out here at the moment). An amusing little part, though he does die with a hatchet in his back! Nobody does black humour like the British! John (in Sydney). __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:57:33 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Fw: Help - Joni interview on KCSN 88.5 FM Tuesday 12/21 > I'm putting out another call for help to any listmembers in the San Fernando > Valley who can get the Joni interview taped on Tuesday, December 21 on KCSN > 88.5 FM - Noon to 1:00 p.m. This college station apparently broadcasts on > micro power and it's going to be impossible for most of us in the L.A. area > to pick it up. I'm going to do some checking around to see what I can come > up with tomorrow, but it would be a better bet if someone close to Cal State > Northridge can take this on. If no one else is able to come forward, I will > update you all tomorrow on any progess I make. Another thought I had is > that perhaps there are other listmembers who have the ability to download > the tape (if we get it) to a website on mp3. If I can get a tape and > someone can do the mp3 part, I will Federal Express it to that person so > everyone can tune it to it as soon as possible. > > Kakki > > NP: JMDL'er Steve Polifka - Last Train Home (WOWSA YOWSA!) > ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #568 ************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. 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