From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #518 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Thursday, November 18 1999 Volume 04 : Number 518 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Come In From The Cold NJC [CaTGirl627@aol.com] RE: Got it bad (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Joni: long and short [Emily Kirk Gray ] Re: Come In From The Cold NJC ["Kakki" ] Canucks (njc) [evian ] Joni: the long and the short [evian ] Joni's Voice [evian ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:32:25 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Come In From The Cold NJC In a message dated 11/17/1999 7:32:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk writes: << Winter is here! -2celcius outside not much better inside. Wind chill factor is worse. Very windy here-surrounded by flatness for many miles. Good job we have a superkingsize bed as the dogs will have to sleep in it. no central heating here. Still better than the city anyday or night, freezing or not! >> WINTER is HERE too!!! I hate being COLD!!! In Feb we are going to Las Vegas and then onward to LA. I think I would like to meet up with a few of your Joni CA people while I am out there. Kakki, I will let you know the dates and WE need to hook up and down some martinis!!! Cat.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:18:43 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Got it bad (NJC) oh kakki! that was so funny. don't worry, with all the editing and writing i'm doing these days, we'll be two very spaced and easy prey to the new orleans vampires come next may... wallyk - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: Kakki Para: Enviado: Jueves 18 de Noviembre de 1999 00:54 Asunto: Got it bad (NJC) > I'm sitting here doing internet research for a case and sending the results > to my work email address and just put NJC in the subject line. > > Kakki, taking a break now. > > NPIMH: Help Me > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:42:52 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Kirk Gray Subject: Joni: long and short i am crushed every time "people's parties" ends, but i don't think i would wish it a second longer, however. it's a perfect chiseled gem of a song -- i think of it as if she took a deep breath and let out those funny heartachy perceptive lyrics (lyric, really) in one exhale... i don't know why the liner notes print those lyrics in sections -- to me they run together in one poem, no line or group breaks. isn't it lovely, too, that "people's parties" is a song with a narrator wishing she had the ability to throw "lightness on these things" -- when of course that's what the song itself is doing! "cry for us all, Beauty" - -- emily ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:12:14 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Come In From The Cold NJC O.K. I know you all are going to guffaw and snicker but I'm also freezing cold here, too. It's down in the 50s and I've had the furnace blasting all night! I put on a coat when the temp. dips below 70 F. Catgirl wrote: >In Feb we are going to Las Vegas and then onward to LA. I think I would like to meet up with a few of >your Joni CA people while I am out there. Kakki, I will let you know the dates > and WE need to hook up and down some martinis!!! You got that right! Keep me posted on the dates. Paz will be also here in February, plus CSNY and Jimmy Webb will both be in concert then, too. ;-D Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:12:51 -0600 From: evian Subject: Canucks (njc) Brett wrote: > I've sure never called myself or anyone else I know a 'canuck'. Don't > really even know what that word originally referred to. > > This is kind of funny, because last week, I had to send an icq voice message to my friend in Hawaii to "properly pronounce" canuck. He was talking to some know-it-all woman in his office who said that the proper pronunciation was "Can-ook" and so I had to send a voice message to him which he was going to send to work in order to set her straight... LOL, the wonders of ICQ.....Can't live without it! (BTW, if anyone wants on my icq list, let me know, even though I am always on invisible to avoid all the relatives who have added me) Anyway, I really hate the term canuck because I always associate it with the Vancouver Canucks, and trust me... I ain't making no NHL type of salary, so I don't identify! Evian, who is scowling and bitching and being a big baby because it's snowing, and methinks it's here to stay until April.... sigh. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:24:00 -0600 From: evian Subject: Joni: the long and the short Definitely, NRH needs to be longer! I can't count the times I am forced to hit repeat before I get my fill. Also, Court and Spark, although I don't think would work as a longer song, is one that I always need to repeat. And I can't remember who said it, but whoever said "Judgment of the Moon and Stars" is right on the money. Even though I still don't know what the hell the song is about, it makes the hair on my neck stand up every time I hear it, and would love it to be as long as "Paprika Plains". Oh, and "Car on the Hill" always seems to end too soon for me... guess I am waiting for the 12" remix ;) As for a shorter song, "Come in From the Cold", although I love it, is just too long for me sometimes, and I find myself skipping it occasionally (Maybe because I am waiting impatiently for "Nothing Can Be Done", even though I seem to be the only one who loves this song!) Evian, who is not old, I'm told, but who really doesn't feel too young.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:40:53 -0600 From: evian Subject: Joni's Voice Catherine, who is slowly but surely catching up on Joni-mail like me, said: > For my part, > I prefer the lower voice. > > I too would say that the lower voice is what I prefer. However, instead of always saying "Oh, her voice lowered from smoking", which I am sure has played a big part, I also think that maturity has a lot to do with it. It's like Joni has grown into her voice, and it keeps getting better, rather than turning into some raspy growl that one usually associates with smoking. The lower voice conveys so much more sultriness and sexiness than the higher one, and more wistful emotion. I am always startled from whatever I am doing and take notice of Joni's voice when I play "How Do You Stop". The way she sings "so fast, so SMAAAART" gives me shivers. I can't imagine the high Joni voice singing that line with any comparable emotion. Rather, the lower voice allows her to express herself in different ways. Same with "Harlem in Havana". That song also makes me sit up and take notice, and fills me with joy simply because of her voice. I am giggling just thinking of the Clouds and LOTC Joni singing HIH! Of course, I do love her "high voice", especially watching her on Dick Cavett on the Tape Trees. I am always amazed at watching her belt out the songs with that voice, and I love the soft speaking voice she had on the show... but again, she has matured, and that Joni isn't the Joni we know now. So anyway, even though the smoking thing has lowered her voice, it is also a maturity thing too, and the fact that Joni has said her real voice was a lower register. Look at Aretha, a former 4 pack a day smoker, and my beloved Stevie Nicks, who just gave up 3 packs a day... their voices didn't lower as drastically as Joni's, so I am sure this suggests that Joni has "grown" into her voice. Evian, who swears this will be the last post of the evening! (Well, maybe... ) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #518 ************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! 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