From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #512 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Sunday, November 14 1999 Volume 04 : Number 512 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NJC- Cracker references [MP123A321@aol.com] red riding hood (NJC) [waytoblu@mindspring.com] NJC Gigs of the Year NJC - (but Sib content!) ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Jazz legends in the flesh - Henricks & Ross at Jazz Alley (long) [Su] Fw: Joni's voice [waytoblu@mindspring.com] I take it that.... ["Tony Wyer" ] Re: I take it that.... [catman ] red riding hood (NJC) [waytoblu@mindspring.com] Re: Joni's voice [catman ] "Joni's Jazz" tribute on Cassette- *Free* ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Joni voted top 20 [catman ] Re: Joni went down well [FMYFL@aol.com] Wally and Joni [Ginamu@aol.com] Re: Joni voted top 20 [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: Joni's Jazz [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Eurojonifest2000 [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: NJC Gigs of the Year NJC - (but Sib content!) [AzeemAK@aol.com] Channel 4 Music of the Millennium (VLJC) [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Channel 4 Music of the Millennium (VLJC) [catman ] Re: NJC Siberry and Mulvey ["Kakki" ] Re: History hysterics!! NJC [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: (NJC) Joni at Barnes & Nobel & Sarah Mclaughlin at drugstore.com!!!! [evian ] Re: More Joni Gratification! [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 04:20:24 EST From: MP123A321@aol.com Subject: NJC- Cracker references More Florida History/Folklore from the southwest FL contingent: I believe yet another use of the term "Cracker" was for workers "cracking" Pine trees to collect pitch.Ibelieve there was a huge turpentine industry in the state. Jerry's post <> Maurice ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 07:39:49 -0500 From: waytoblu@mindspring.com Subject: red riding hood (NJC) I finally returned back from Cumberland Island which I will have a report of this weekend (including the exciting adventures of Victor the Explorer getting stuck in the middle of a swamp/marsh in the dark without a flashlight) but I was going through my songbook since I am doing a show next weekend and was trying to figure out what I wanted to play and found this song I had written back in 1995, called "Red Riding Hood" which I thought I would share with you. It's much better with the music since I use it in a way to create a sense of what is happening, in a similiar fashion to the way classical music will create a certain mood to convey what is happening as in Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique for example, but here are the lyrics. In light of recent events, it has a more a chilling tinge to it now than it did when I wrote it. (btw, the night I wrote this song, my roommate at the time was off on a retreat and unbeknownst to me, participating in an impromptu skit, playing the part of little red riding hood on her violin) Red Riding Hood (c) 1995 Victor Johnson Little Red Riding Hood left by the door, She hadn't been out in the dark woods before, and She carried her basket of cookies and bread To her frail, old grandmother laying in bed, and The wolf said to her,"Where are you going now?" She said, "I'm going to visit a friend who's been down." "Why do you want to know?" So she made her way to her grandmother's house, Sporting her red skirt, her stockings and blouse, and She followed the trail as well as she could For she was a young girl alone in the woods, And she wondered what might hide behind the thick trees. But all she could hear was the still of the breeze, And the howling of wolves... GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE: LRRD: "Grandmother, why are your eyes so big?" Wolf: "The better to see you with my dear." LRRD: "Grandmother, why is your nose so big?" W: "The better to smell you with my dear." {struggle} LRRD: "Grandmother, why are your hands so big?" W: "The better to hold you with my dear." LRRD: "Grandmother, why are your teeth so big?" W: "The better to EAT you with my, DEAR" {more struggle} FINAL SCENE: Little Red Riding Hood shot the wolf down, His body it fell with a thud to the ground, and She brought her basket of cookies and bread To celebrate now that the wolf he was dead, and Her grandmother said, "Where are you going now?" She said, "I'm going out into the woods all alone." "Why do you want to know?" THE END Victor...still waking up awfully early in the morning since I haven't adjusted to being back in the city yet where the sunlight isn't shining on your face at six in the morning. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:03:49 -0500 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: NJC Gigs of the Year NJC - (but Sib content!) Kakki kakkib@att.net wrote: >Your reviews of the Jane Siberry show were so descriptive and >wonderful that you've finally hooked me into checking her out. >I think she performed in L.A. this week but I couldn't make it and >now am sorry I didn't drag myself out. Kakki - she hasn't got to Los Angeles yet - she's in Ireland at the moment [Galway on Monday, Philip] but is due to play the Largo (323-852-1073) on 11th & 12th December (see US and 'new' Canadian dates below). I wasn't planning to go to go to either of her London gigs, but on Tuesday afternoon, when e-mailing Patrick about the Jimmy Webb gig tonight [hope you all enjoy that, btw], I mentioned that I was in two minds about just risking it and driving off down to the South Bank to see if I could get in. He wrote back "don't you dare miss it. she's at a peak right now". Thanks, Patrick. I left the house at 7pm and was sitting at the back of the Queen Elizabeth Hall by 7.55pm as the lights went down. Azeem & Rob's atmospheric reviews said it all really, except (for me) the tears started rolling when she played 'Hockey' - (the last time I saw her she had forgotten the words and given up after the first few bars) - this time she had several 'new' verses, including one about standing on the ice with their hands up in the air - wearing so many sweaters that they couldn't put them down. It's the way she sings "Rosie" that does it to me. I'm immediately back to my own childhood days on the farm, skating with my sister and friends on frozen-over flooded fields on a Sunday afternoon as it starts to get dark, with my mother's voice shouting for us to come in now - tea's ready!! The other highlights for me not already mentioned were her versions of the traditional song 'The Water is Wide' which was really beautiful and her own song 'Calling All Angels' (from the 'When I was a Boy' album), which she asked the audience to sing along with and then so nearly gave up on, forgetting the opening line. Thankfully it came to her at the last second and she completed the song with the whole audience holding the final note. Stunning! And if you fancy the chance of playing with her on stage, don't hesitate when she asks for a volunteer to help her out. She won't embarrass you. The December dates for her 'Solo Pilgrim' tour are 3rd-4th Dec The Bottom Line NEW YORK 7th Dec Aladdin Theatre PORTLAND, OREGON 8th Dec Century Ballroom SEATTLE, WASHINGTON 11th-12th Dec Largo LOS ANGELES, CA 13th Dec Great American Music Hall SAN FRANCISCO, CA 14th Dec Vogue Theatre VANCOUVER, BC 20th Dec Trinity-St. Paul's United Church, TORONTO, ONTARIO (full details at http://www.sheeba.ca/tour.html ) As Patrick said to me, dont you dare miss it. PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 08:10:05 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Jazz legends in the flesh - Henricks & Ross at Jazz Alley (long) Mark said: << Watching & hearing Annie Ross & Jon Hendricks amounted to nothing less than pure, unadulterated joy. >> Wow - what a night for you, Mark...sounds like quite a show! And I'm glad you got to meet with Hendricks & Ross too and got autographs. They certainly do have a unique sound, the Manhattan Transfer connection is pretty clear like you say. Thanks for sharing so much detail of your great night! Bob NP: Paprika Plains ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 08:14:47 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: red riding hood (NJC) Hey Victor, I thought you were going to start singing: "Hey Little Red Riding Hood, You sure are looking good, You're everything a big bad wolf could want"...:~) But yours sounds a little more "Pirate of Penance-ish" than "Sam the Sham & The Pharoahs-ish"... And I forget to mention in talking about your record that vocally you're a dead ringer for Morrisey...I guess you've heard that before... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 08:18:16 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: VIBE magazine In a message dated 11/12/99 11:27:14 PM US Central Standard Time, p.a.oconnor@worldnet.att.net writes: << So...6 of the 10 songs rate on the Bleak side, which does indicate a Bleak feel to the album, however it is not nearly enough to qualify it as Brutally Bleak. >> Patricia, this is an excellent assessment...I think critics that dwell on Blue's "Brutal Bleakness" just really don't know it that well. Like you say, some of those dulcimer songs are so exuberant and joyful, that's what makes the whole record work. It's what makes the sad songs seem stronger, I think. The same effect is conjured up in Me'Shell's "Bitter", a mix of sadness & joy... NP: The Tenth World ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:07:27 -0500 From: "Beverly" Subject: Re: NJC Gigs of the Year NJC - (but Sib content!) and others >Your reviews of the Jane Siberry show were so descriptive and wonderful that >you've finally hooked me into checking her out. I think she performed in >L.A. this week but I couldn't make it and now am sorry I didn't drag myself >out. Kakki, Jane Siberry will be performing at the Largo in LA on December 11th and 12th - so you still have time! (This from my "ShowDates" list). Although I've never heard her perform live, Barbara Burst's many praises of her work prompted me to check Jane out. I picked up her cds "Maria" and "Bound by Beauty." She does have a beautiful and emotive voice. She sings as if reciting poetry; her own. Her choice of musicians is always unique and superb - Brian Blade played drums on "Maria." For some reason, I am reminded up Joni's 'Paprika Plains' while listening to Jane's "See the Child" from "Maria." There is definitely Joni influence. Speaking of "gigs" and a new (to me) artist - Peter Mulvey will perform at Genghis Cohen Cantina on December 13th (LA?). I discovered him on one of my daughter's cds this past summer; "River 92.5 - WXRV Presents Live From The River Music Hall Vol. 1." I was immediately smitten with his gorgeous Nick "Drake-esq" voice and stunning guitar work. Also on this record are: The Cowboy Junkies, Bruce Cockburn, Jonatha Brooke, Francis Dunnery, Suzanne Vega, etc. Nice compilation and introduction to Peter Mulvey. I highly recommend his cd, "Rapture." Like, Siberry, he "speaks" some of his lyrics in a clear, rich, melodious voice: The Voice I want a voice I want a deep, resonant, effortless voice a big voice - bigger than me I want to speak and hear the floorboards take it up so that people hear me first with their bodies and only then with their ears a voice, strong like an axe to cut through the silence strange, like distant flutes, to still the senses a voice to quicken the heart like drums in the night a want to breath a whisper that shivers like a star over some strange Bethlehem on some cold stone circling some distant sun I want a voice like the voice of many the voice of a people the voice of a nation and with this voice I would cry freedom and then I would speak peace ~ Peter Mulvey, from "Rapture" Bev np: Crumbs ~Jonanna Brooke - Live from the River Music Hall ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:30:49 -0500 From: waytoblu@mindspring.com Subject: Re: red riding hood (NJC) >And I forget to mention in talking about your record that vocally you're a >dead ringer for Morrisey...I guess you've heard that before... Yes, I have heard that before...it actually seems like a long running joke now. I first started hearing that in 1992 when I was living in Winter Park, Florida and attending audio engineering school. Everywhere I would go and play, people would tell me I sound like Morrissey. Honestly, at the time I had never heard of Morrissey and had no idea who the Smiths were(I've always been a decade behind.) Actually, that was what got me into the Smiths...I went out and bought the Smiths Louder Than Bombs, and Morrissey Viva Hate...I really got into them for awhile and still enjoy listening to them. I am not particularly influenced by Morrissey so I chuckle whenever I hear his name come up... Victor NP: Deep Purple-Made in Japan (on vinyl) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 16:04:10 +0000 From: catman Subject: Joni's voice I ma sure this has been asked and answered before but I can't rmember. Joni's voice changed markedly after Blue, especially on HOSL. Although it sounded more like her voice on STAS. Was the voice change deliberate on her part? Or was it natural? I wouldn''t expect her to sing now like she does on Blue for example, but her voice change happened when she was still quite young. bw colin - -- "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:06:41 -0500 From: Sue Subject: Re: Jazz legends in the flesh - Henricks & Ross at Jazz Alley (long) Mark, Thank you for your wonderful account of the meeting with Annie Ross and Jon Hendricks. I really enjoyed the way you described the "vocalese" and how instumental pieces are turned into vocals. What a night for you indeed! Congrats~ Sue Cameron (Suze) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:53:18 -0500 From: waytoblu@mindspring.com Subject: Fw: Joni's voice - -->>Joni's voice changed markedly after Blue, especially on HOSL. Although >>it sounded more like her voice on STAS. >>Was the voice change deliberate on her part? Or was it natural? > > > >Speaking from my own experience, I think that was probably both deliberate >and natural. A voice will naturally develop and change since it is such a >dynamic instrument with so much subtlety and little nuances that you notice >over a period of time. Joni has a truly beautiful voice and can convey so >much and she does this in a completely natural way. Singing comes from the >depth of your soul(imagine a long tunnel of wind) and completely transcends >any conscious decision making. > >At the same time, when you have really good control and also have a natural >ability, you can deliberately alter your singing in order to sound different >than you might otherwise sound. People are always telling me that I sound >like Morrissey when I sing my own songs, yet I have sung songs by Neil >Young, Jethro Tull, Rush, Stevie Wonder etc...and people will tell me I >sound just like the artists themselves and yet not in a fake, surface way >but in a way with a little more subtlety and depth to it. What I mean is >when I'm singing some of these songs I can't help but sing them in a certain >way and yet I sing them with just as much passion as if I had written them >myself. So it is something that comes from within as opposed to Joni or >Joan Baez doing an imititation of Bob Dylan which is very deliberate but >more contrived. > >IMHO, I don't think those two things can be completely separated...it is >more complex ie...nature vs. nurture > >Victor > >NP: Elise Witt: Open the Window > >(really cool internationally known folk/world music artist from Atlanta) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:51:45 -0000 From: "Tony Wyer" Subject: I take it that.... I take it, and being new to this forum, that NP stands for now playing. As in:- NP Thomas Dolby. "I scare myself." regards Tony Tony's Rough Guide to Skiing La Plagne http://www.wyer.force9.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:55:58 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: I take it that.... Yes it does, tony. Tony Wyer wrote: > I take it, and being new to this forum, that NP stands for now playing. > As in:- > NP Thomas Dolby. "I scare myself." > > regards > Tony > > Tony's Rough Guide to Skiing La Plagne http://www.wyer.force9.co.uk - -- "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:08:07 -0500 From: waytoblu@mindspring.com Subject: red riding hood (NJC) I forgot to mention that I played this song for Emily Saliers(Indigo Girls) on her guitar a few years ago ....the only time I've ever performed for a celebrity...now if I could play a song for Joni on her guitar I would probably die and go to heaven...... :>) Victor.....leaving to go see the Adventures of Elmo in the Land of the Grouches. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:02:42 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Joni's voice > Singing comes from the > depth of your soul(imagine a long tunnel of wind) and completely transcends > any conscious decision making. That is what i have always thought. I think one can tell if someone is just 'going thru the motions.' I know when I sing, to myself at home, i am singing from within tho sometimes my feelings exceed my abiltiy.if I am singing in church, i often am just going thru the motions unless it is hymn/tune that moves me. > > > At the same time, when you have really good control and also have a natural > ability, you can deliberately alter your singing in order to sound different > than you might otherwise sound. My partner, who classicly trained as an opera singer(bass) but does not fllow it as a career, says the voice is an instrument and should be used and respected as such.I have noticed other singers voices change-except for carly simon whose voice has remained the same-it has always been mature and rich. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:14:50 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Joni's Jazz" tribute on Cassette- *Free* I'm offering to make dubs of what I call Tape Tree #7a. It includes the complete "Joni's Jazz" concert where jazz musicians played Joni songs including a complete tribute to "Hejira". This concert, held in New York City's Central Park on Canada Day 1999 (July 1) was presented by the Canadian Consulate. This mini-tape tree is provided with text-only J-cards in the classic JMDL tape tree tradition. Also included is a photocopy of the 4 page program, complete with names, of the night's perfor- mance. I pick up the cost of the photocopies. On the third tape is Joni's appearance on an American radio prog- ram called "The World Cafe" from Philedelphia, Pennsylvannia USA in 1994. In these 2 hours, you get a nice collection of Joni's hits from the album tracks. In the interviews, she talks about a new song, Yvette In English, and many other topics. You'll need to send cassettes and return postage (2) 110 minute cassettes (suggest Maxell XII-S or TDK SA-X) and (1) 120 minute cassette (Suggest Maxell D, a Ferric tape but Ferric sounds just fine). "If you want the tapes but want to work out another arrangement, e-mail me privately." now playing: "Heavy Weather" by Weather Report - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** Tolerance, tolerance, tol... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:33:15 +0000 From: catman Subject: Joni went down well I have just got back from the most fantastic evening. I went to Huntigdon to do one of my talks at the church. Although I had in mind what i would talk about, I decided I was going to play a couple of Joni tracks to get the talk off on the right lines and to get people to think and be interested. I chose tracks from TI, Sex Kills and The Sire of Sorrow, and one from DED. Now maybe those songs are depressing but the evening was not. far from it. I am left on real high as were may others. This lasted two and a half hours and none of us wanted to leave. There was one lady, in her 70's, who knew who joni was and in fact had her STAS when it first came out! Both the songs triggered thoughts in people and discussion about how we could lessen our fears and be more positive about ourselves and others. I have thought of doing it this way before, using Joni lyrics to stir the mind but this was the first time i did it. I am sure i will do it again. thanks Joni. - -- "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:07:18 +0000 From: catman Subject: Joni voted top 20 Channel four is showing a music program for people of the millenium, voted on by the general public. In the Best Female Singer category, our Joni was number 20 and Madonna was number 1. - -- "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:09:41 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni went down well Colin writes: << I decided I was going to play a couple of Joni tracks to get the talk off on the right lines and to get people to think and be interested. I chose tracks from TI, Sex Kills and The Sire of Sorrow, and one from DED. >> Way to Go Colin!!! That's so wonderful that you could get people thinking by using some Joni tunes. Sometimes people are much more willing to listen to a song or watch a clip from a movie rather than just listen to someone talk. It's a great way to get your point across, and you exposed some more people to Joni. I'm so glad that your talk and the service went well. Love to You!!! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:49:12 EST From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: Wally and Joni I just went to the Joni site and saw the brief note from Wally and the photo there of him and Joni. Wally, I have never met you but the warmth of your lovely smile says worlds about you. I am, of course, looking forward along with everyone one else to the details of your weekend with Joni but just knowing that you had the experience makes me really happy and your smile tells it all (well, almost) : } Wally, I wish you better health soon. Take care, Gina NP: Looking Forward, CSNY ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 19:18:45 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni voted top 20 In a message dated 11/13/1999 6:13:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk writes: << Channel four is showing a music program for people of the millenium, voted on by the general public. In the Best Female Singer category, our Joni was number 20 and Madonna was number 1. >> Madonna?? YIKES!!! She ahs a good voic ebut in MHO she is not THE singer of the millenium!! It would have to be like Billie Holiday or KD Lang. Those women can sing. I would give Joni one of course but inreality she should be a 2. Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:00:41 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Jazz In a message dated 11/11/99 06:13:31 GMT Standard Time, CaTGirl627@aol.com writes: << I thought the Joni listers at Asharas sounded much better then these so called professionals!! When I's a mussin came on it went off!!!! Catgirl preparing for the slings and arrows! (((duck!!))))) >> I only wish I could have been there. Glad to know you're of like mind, CatGirl! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:00:37 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Eurojonifest2000 In a message dated 11/11/99 17:39:44 GMT Standard Time, jamie_zubairi@hotmail.com writes: << I have just spoken to the bookings person at the Troubadour Coffee house in Earl's Court and we have a provisional date pencilled in for January 4th at 7.00pm 2000. It's a Tuesday and I believe the cellar remains open until 12. If anyone could come up with suggestions I would most appreciate it. Anyone else in the UK with a burning desire to perform a song or two? >> Jamie, All I can say is WOW! Count me in to be there and - possibly - bring along a few non-listers and musician friends of mine. Whether I will be up to performing is another matter: I certainly don't know how to play any Joni songs, and my guitar strumming is rudimentary to say the least! Still, I've got a bit of time to mug up... What about it, Martin and Chris?? From what I can gather, you two are proper musicians, and this is the perfect incentive to perfect your guitar/bass duet! Azeem in London NP: Heather Nova's "Blow" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:00:42 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Gigs of the Year NJC - (but Sib content!) In a message dated 13/11/99 03:07:44 GMT Standard Time, kakkib@att.net writes: << Rob and Azeem, Your reviews of the Jane Siberry show were so descriptive and wonderful that you've finally hooked me into checking her out. I think she performed in L.A. this week but I couldn't make it and now am sorry I didn't drag myself out. [...] You all need to come visit L.A. so I can take you on the full tour ;-) >> When I have money and time, Kakki, I'll be there! I really hope you get to see Sib, she's a wonderful, life affirming spirit. You may want to get a bunny too!! Check out her website for a hint of her unique view of life. It's www.sheeba.ca. See ya, Azeem NP: The Outlaw Josey Wales - I've seen it umpteen times, but it's on telly and I couldn't resist having a "quick look". Gets me hooked every time. Clint may be a Reagan-suporting, philandering tosser (well, that's how some see him), but a look at this film shows a different side amidst all the violence. He builds himself a real rainbow coalition of men and women, white, Hispanic and Indian, makes peace with the "enemy" (the Commanches) and talks about people getting along together. Not profound, but heartfelt, it's a great film. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:00:40 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Channel 4 Music of the Millennium (VLJC) I'm sitting in front of the telly on my own on Saturday evening (that's the kind of sad singleton I am), watching Channel 4's "tribute to the best music of the last 1000 years", voted on by around 600,000 punters. Yeah, right. The top 20 groups included Boyzone and Steps, top 20 albums included BOTH Robbie Williams efforts (ye Gods!). Still, in a climate that has my three least fave singers in the top 6, perhaps we should be grateful that Joni got a look-in at all. The top 20 female singers countdown looks like this: 20 Joni 19 Debbie Harry 18 Natalie Imbruglia (I am not making this up) 17 Janet Jackson (hyulp) 16 Billie Holiday 15 Dusty 14 Tina T 13 Cher (pur-lease - are you getting pissed off with my comments yet?) 12 Sheryl Crow 11 Lauren Hill 10 Bjork 9 Kate Bush 8 Annie Lennox 7 Alanis 6 Whitney Primadonna 5 Mariah Batcall 4 Ella 3 Celine Scaldedcat 2 Aretha 1 Madonna They just had Melanie C (the alleged Talented Spice), who did - to be fair - a passable rendition of Like A Prayer, and PJ Harvey doing her tribute to Dylan with a riveting rendition of "Shot of Love", a song I'd never heard. We move on with best male artist, and all I'll say about that is that Stevie Wonder and Neil Young don't make the top 20, whereas Ronan Keating, Bryan Adams and Will Smith do (Will's a good actor, can someone please persuade him to stop making records??), Marvin's at 11 and Robbie Williams is at 2. For the record, Elvis makes it at no. 1. And now, as we near midnight, the most influential musician top ten has just been run down, and apart from the ubiquitous and inevitable Robbie Bleedin' Williams, it's not too objectionable (which is not to say I agree with it!): 10 Bach 9 Dylan 8 Bowie 7 Mozart 6 Robbie Williams (That juxtaposition is at least worth a chuckle) 5 Paul McCartney 4 Jimi Hendrix 3 Michael Jackson 2 Elvis 1 John Lennon We're about to hear Macy Gray sing "With a Little Help From My Friends" as the finale. Hmm, not bad at all. Enough of this madness, I'm going out to a late night store to get myself a life... Azeem in Chilly London ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 01:16:12 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Channel 4 Music of the Millennium (VLJC) > and PJ Harvey doing her tribute to > Dylan with a riveting rendition of "Shot of Love", a song I'd never heard. I found it riveting too. i couldn't figure how such an awful sound go on the tv! > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:30:22 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: NJC Gigs of the Year NJC - (but Sib content!) Azeem wrote: > When I have money and time, Kakki, I'll be there! I really hope you get to > see Sib, she's a wonderful, life affirming spirit. You may want to get a > bunny too!! Check out her website for a hint of her unique view of life. > It's www.sheeba.ca. Thanks Azeem, I will check it out and get a bunny! On another note as to future Jonilist visitors to L.A. - today my downtown friend who I call Mr. L.A. because he is such a relentless city booster, drug me out early to ride the subway all the way from downtown into the heart of Hollywood. (For those who may not realize it, I think we are the last place on earth to have a subway system so this is a real novelty for us here who grow up living in cars). The subway stretch into Hollywood just opened a few months ago and the station at Hollywood and Vine is a work of art. The ceiling is made up of thousands of film reels and there is a Yellow Brick Road and campy ceramic palm trees and stuff. My friend and I were laughing all day how we natives here really live in a blend of fantasy and reality. We then walked about five miles all around the boulevard and almost everywhere we went I kept saying "next time my Joni friends come out" or "my Joni friends have to see this" We were in and out of places like Book City (home of the infamous overpriced Starart books), Les Deux Cafes (Joni hangout) and other JC-related landmarks. I could not believe his good nature in listening to me prattle on about my "Joni friends" for a good 8 hours! God, I have good friends! So, you see, Azeem, I'm forever thinking up new excursions for my Joni friends who come to visit ;-) Kakki NP: Paz at Atty Mays - Love Puts On A New Face ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:29:20 PST From: "John Low" Subject: History hysterics!! NJC Catgirl responded in the “History / Herstory thread: >>or Herstorically correct!!! LOL!! This set me off laughing too. “Herstorically”, sounding so much like “hysterically”, has suddenly reminded me of some of the creative variations people have applied to my history related job title. I work as a “Local Studies Librarian”, which means I’m responsible for collecting and organizing historical etc. material relating to the area our library serves and for answering all related inquiries. In the course of my work I correspond regularly with local historians & genealogists and often speak to local organizations about local history. On one occasion the President of an organization I was to address got his tongue tied in knots and introduced me to the audience as “the hysterical librarian”!! I (and most of the audience) did become a bit hysterical after that but, at least, I was able to begin my talk with a joke that broke the ice. Probably my favourite, though, is a letter that arrived at the library one day addressed to “The Historic Librarian” !!! I know I’m getting on a bit, but I didn’t think I was quite that far gone! :-) Sorry, I realise this has nothing really to do with a thread on political correctness. Oh well, I hope you'll indulge me this little digression into personal anecdote. It’s all Catgirl’s fault anyway - it was her LOL response that suddenly triggered the memory! John (in Sydney). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:39:16 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: NJC Siberry and Mulvey Bev wrote: > Jane Siberry will be performing at the Largo in LA on December 11th and > 12th - so you still have time! (This from my "ShowDates" list). Thanks Bev and Paul for strightening me out. I have the dates 11th and 12th mentally filed but thought it was for November! And Paul - your review was equally atmospheric and I'm very interested in her now. > Speaking of "gigs" and a new (to me) artist - Peter Mulvey will perform at > Genghis Cohen Cantina on December 13th (LA?). Thanks for the recommendation. I'd heard of him and decided to check out his website. He sounds amazing. Kind of honed his music style playing for free on the streets of Dublin for a year (where he says he was greatly inspired and influenced by hearing all the other street musicians singing out Van Morrison and others even in a cold, damp rain) and in Boston. He also makes up his own tunings. Genghis Cohen almost strictly showcases the high end singer-songwriters. I will definitely check out his music and hope to see him perform. Kakki NP: Nikki at Atty Mays - My Funny Valentine (whooooo) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:46:33 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: History hysterics!! NJC In a message dated 11/13/1999 11:29:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, johnlow40@hotmail.com writes: << Sorry, I realise this has nothing really to do with a thread on political correctness. Oh well, I hope you'll indulge me this little digression into personal anecdote. It’s all Catgirl’s fault anyway - it was her LOL response that suddenly triggered the memory! John (in Sydney). _______________________ >> THAT is funny and I am happy that I made you smile!! or break out in hysterics!!! Catgirl hehehe! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 00:58:47 -0600 From: evian Subject: Re: (NJC) Joni at Barnes & Nobel & Sarah Mclaughlin at drugstore.com!!!! Kakki exclaimed: > I especially recommend the > drugstore.com to everyone. I've gotten loads of stuff for practically > nothing from there thanks to you. > Since we are on the topic, does anyone know of any drugstore sites that ship to Canada? Every site I have tried only ships to the states, and I emailed one and they told me they are thinking of doing the Canadian shipping thing, but so far I can't find any. I hate being excluded from these good deals, and my favorite dental products aren't sold in Canada.... LOL, is my teeth dream manifesting itself into my daily life? ;) Evian np: Amy Grant -- "If These Walls Could Speak" (Yes, Ashara, I took my lazy ass out to the car to get it since your talk about the Jimmy Webb show tonight has left me singing the song over and over and over.....) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:04:20 PST From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: More Joni Gratification! Fellow Joni Slaves: So, the husband is in San Francisco for the weekend (am I crazy??) and I'm sitting here in Eugene, OR listening to the local public radio station..great show on early folk/protest music. Some recordings from the late '40's even!! Hearing some amazing stuff....all EARLY Dylan, Baez, Seeger, Ian and Sylvia, Gordon Lightfoot, Kingston Trio, etc. So the DJ is taking requests, and I, nearly stamping with impatience; pick up the phone, call and say to the very nice man, "Umm...how about some JONI MITCHELL?" (with caps in my voice) He replies, "IS THIS A CONSPIRACY?"...to which I reply, "No, I'm Russ." He says I am about the 2 dozenth caller asking for our Queen!! Back on air he announces that he has to cut short a Richie Havens set (he is singing 'Teach Your Children') AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH! NP! Morning Morgantown...from an LP, yet!!! I can hear the scratches! I have never heard this on the radio before..I'm so happy.....LOTC is in the collection, I don't listen to it very often, though......(I am not worthy, Oh, Goddess!) The announcer says he had to bump the Judy Collins set....oh, God, now it's Gail Garnett with 'We'll Sing in the Sunshine" So, to all you folks in the Eugene area (lurkers, perhaps??) come out of the shadows and into the Shadows and Light of the Incomparable One! Great picture Wally!! It seems so unbelievable and so right. I hope I can touch you someday! Did she give you a tress of her hair, or nail clippings, or anything....butts from her ashtray? There would be enough to auction off to the Faithful!! I'd buy a couple. Love, Russ NP: My heart beating with a quiet, warm satisfaction. Scratches and all. And Melanie...the 'Lay down, lay down song. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:33:55 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: More Joni Gratification! Elated Russ chimes in: <> Maybe it's just another one of the great things about living in our neck of the woods, but I routinely get to hear Morning Morgantown, Conversation, Ladies of The Canyon and How Do You Stop playing at our local Albertsons. Hey Russ, can you pick up KINK 102 (Portland) down there? Talking with the NYC lawyer last week (here in Vancouver), he agreed KINK is the best, most eclectic station he's ever heard. (REM was today's on the countdown.) Russ, where's your public radio station on the dial? I'll see if I can pick it up tonight too! ;-) Penny PS Russ, you a Blazer fan? Won by over 30 tonight ;-) :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #512 ************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! 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