From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #489 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Monday, November 1 1999 Volume 04 : Number 489 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Grace - NJC [MP123A321@aol.com] Re: Cree Louise (HOSL Demo) ["Eric Taylor" ] Re: Tar Babie on the "barbie"onlyJMDL Digest V1 #245 [Julian51469@aol.com] Re: How much, how often? [Linda Worster ] joni for halloween [Deb Messling ] Re: Re : How much, how often? [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: in way of proof... ["P. Henry" ] Brian Wilson (LONG) - NJC [Leslie Mixon ] Joni's Jazz Part #1 [Julian51469@aol.com] :o) Hissings demos and rarities!!! [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: Brian Wilson (LONG) - NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Brian Wilson (LONG) - NJC [Linda Worster ] Re: joni for halloween [FMYFL@aol.com] Tapes, postage, etc. (NJC) [evian ] Re: Tapes, postage, etc. (NJC) [Ginamu@aol.com] Re: Tapes, postage, etc. (NJC) ["Kakki" ] Re: Brian Wilson (LONG) - NJC ["Kakki" ] RE: Brian Wilson (LONG) - NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: patricia barber (njc) and how musicians play [MGVal@aol.com] Re: Heart /Sandra/Stormy Weather/Joni (now njc) ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Jonatha's influences...njc [Jeanne Whitlock ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 03:29:12 EST From: MP123A321@aol.com Subject: Re: Grace - NJC Mark, What a great parody. I know what I'll be listening to today. Crown of Creation does seem like a Halloween LP, with the fireball cover. Maurice << Grace Slick turns 60 years old today. 60. Six-oh. Happy Birthday, Gracie! Gracie was sixty years old today They took away all of her toys >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 04:00:11 -0500 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: Cree Louise (HOSL Demo) I wrote: << Joni's delivery of Cherokee Louise on the HOSL Demo is overwhelming! >> Bob replied: << Eric, you must be referring to some filler on your recording, as Louise doesn't appear on the HOSL Demos... >> MG added: << Whew! This is a real relief! I've felt that my copies of the HOSL demo were incredibly clear and of great quality. I've been feeling quite pleased that I've been able to hear the whole tape, (albeit in the car with the volume cranked), and then I read that "Cherokee Louise" is on the tape! Have I been singing along to the wrong songs all this time? >> Lucky me! I have the CD.... This is my first Joni bootleg so please pardon my unfamiliarity. I haven't had even an AM radio in my car for three years now. I'm still waiting to install a CD player. Perhaps the reason I haven't done it yet is because I just love singing to myself when I drive. This can be embarrassing at stop lights. I sing Joni 99% of the time & it always amazes me that I remember most of her words & chords. Tonight I delivered a particularly satisfying rendition of Moon At The Window driving home from a toilet-paper-in-the-trees throwing contest. BTW, I just adopted a solid black stray tomcat with big beautiful green eyes. I named him Howler. Happy Halloween! E.T. NP: NIN, The Fragile, disk 2***** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:45:23 EST From: Julian51469@aol.com Subject: Re: Tar Babie on the "barbie"onlyJMDL Digest V1 #245 In a message dated 10/30/99 2:05:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: Julian wrote: > Has anyone mentioned that >DJRD came out at a time when people weren't so worried about political >correctness, not to mention the evolution of a word or slang terminology? >These gems like "tar baby" litterally and figuratively get stuck in gooey >dark syntax and cultural taboos. I really appreciate Debra (Kedabra)'s "all >sides now" response....because I feel that's the time we are living in. ....and then Patrick O'Connor wrote: The term "politically correct" hadn't yet been coined when DJRD was released, however that's not to say that one didn't recognize a racial slur when one met one in a dark alley, or in a crowded bar, or on a record album, or when one ran head-first into the slur-maker. We didn't call it politically incorrect, we called it racist. Semitics as you all know, are Arabs too. POC>> Hello POC, You are absolutely right. My statement was not meant to dispute the arguments but simply point out the fact that the great thinkers here at the end of the 20th century love to look at all sides of the preverbial coin. Ple ase accept my deepest appologies if I've offended you in anyway. You're totally correct about < We didn't call it politically incorrect, we called it racist. Semitics as you all know, are Arabs too.> Just as Semites have the ability to be racist...and so the wheel of suffering rolls on. Thank you for addition and well taken criticism, Julian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:23:15 -0500 From: Linda Worster Subject: Re: How much, how often? David wrote: > >> "I don't listen to that much music because I am playing a lot." What a great >> place to be. I feel very fortunate that I can say the same and also echo what >> follows: when I DO listen, there's nothing like a Joni Mitchell album to keep >> the quality I'm aspiring to right in my face. DAVID LAHM well said, David!!! Thanks for writing. I too feel extremely fortunate to be a music maker! then Colin asked: >To all you music makers out there: do you listen to what you are playing? Or are >you involved in the playing? > I meant, I don't listen all that much to recorded music when I am playing a lot. Definitely listening when I am playing.... except sometimes when I float off into dreamland.... That's only OK for me if I am playing solo... If I am playing with others, I tend to miss cues that way. I think the best musicians are the best listeners. Even solo... if I am not listening to myself, the music doesn't come across the same at all. best- Linda ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:35:03 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: joni for halloween Hello all, Last night I went to a costume party where everyone was directed to come as an influential person of the 20th century. One of the guests came as Joni Mitchell. It helped that she is naturally a dead ringer for Mia Farrow, and she accentuated her cheekbones with makeup, but the rest of her get-up was a big denim shirt and a peace symbol necklace. The stereotype lives on...sigh... Deb Messling messling@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~messling/ ~there are only three kinds of people: those who can count, and those who can't. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:48:34 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Re : How much, how often? In a message dated 29/10/99 23:19:30 GMT Daylight Time, Ginamu@aol.com writes: << While it's true I play Joni almost daily to some extent, I also play a wide variety of other people's music a great deal at work and at home too, particularly while doing work around the house, preparing dinner or just puttering. But with Joni, I prefer to be alone while listening to her ( uh oh... in terms of addiction, is this anything like an alcoholic preferring to drink alone? ) >> Gina, I agree with you about the need to concentrate to Joni. I don't listen to Joni anything like every day, but she is a constant presence. When it comes down to it, the albums I always come back to are the Blue-Hejira sequence. I hardly ever listen to the the first 3 or the 80s albums, not cos I hate them, more because there is just so, so much other stuff to get through. I always namecheck her whenever the "what sort of music do you like" question comes up, whether with friends, fellow course members, clients at work or even complete strangers! Azeem in London NP: The build-up to the second rugby world cup semi-final. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:20:41 -0800 From: "P. Henry" Subject: Re: in way of proof... Kakki wrote: < Pat, what darling, vintage photos! $1.25 to see Joni - argh! And what a lucky guy you are to have experienced such a wonderful space in time and have such memories to cherish.> yes, 'lucky' is exactly what I am! not skilled, not better, not aggressive... just pure dumb luck! or maybe fate... remember in Wayne's World where they did the 'we're not worthy' bit? I guess you could say that sort of describes how I feel about the whole thing. if you've read my posts since I came onboard you know my story and you know how haphazardly I fell into the situation of the Cellar and Joni. all the other kids knew each other and were art students or friends of art students of one teacher. I only knew brian and that we were going to a party. I never knew what was going on until the party turned into a meeting to reopen the coffeehouse. all of them knew Chuck and Joni and I'd never even heard of them. as I've tried, in my stumbling fashion, to express before, this is what motivates me to try to share, as much as possible, this blessing I was given with all listers... because I didn't deserve it anymore than anyone else... 'I'm not worthy'! my pleasure, kakki... and you know, you triggered an interesting thought with this... consider... do you recall the recent thread where we were all telling our story how we came to the list? carbon copy accounts!: 'I got on the internet and the first thing I did was a search for Joni... found wally's site... etc.'! ok, now consider this: here we are, brian, cul and myself... some 34yrs later (wow, that's a long time!) all three of us on the list... all from the same coffeehouse. ok, so what do you think the odds are of that? well, actually, considering the aforementioned thread, pretty good. as a matter of fact, it seems highly UNlikely to me, anyway, that there aren't a lot more among our ranks just like us! I mean, figger the odds! here you have *three* from *one* club! so what about the chessmate crowd?! and the second fret? and the bitter end? and the riverboat? and the sippin' lizard? dollars to donuts there's a bunch of them out there lurking! waddaya think? logical? pat NP: All Along The Watchtower - Martin Sexton live! (thanks julian! wow!) http://members.wbs.net/homepages/b/a/d/badwolff.html Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:27:14 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Brian Wilson (LONG) - NJC Last night Steve and I attended the 13th annual Bridge School Benefit (and we're going again today). The JMDL is a "secret place" where we dissect Joni's words (spoken and sung) share the intimate details of our lives and reach out to "strangers." Since I've been posting and reading these digests for over 3 years I'm going to take the risk and share the following. I can say that one of the greatest scars of my childhood is that I was "trained" or "programmed" not to cry. As a child, if I cried, I'd get, "Stop crying before I give you something to cry about," (with a fist waving in my face) or "You have to be strong." Consequently, if I cry once a year, that's progress and usually if I'm watching a movie like "Terms of Endearment." It's safe in the dark if nobody can see me. Anyway, this leads up to Brian Wilson's performance last night. I'm going to assume that we all know about the scars of Brian's childhood and that he's been to hell and back. The first thing I have to say is how I admire the courage it took for him to perform at this show. He had (I think) an eight-piece band including vibes and french horn. The arrangements were lush with incredible texture and the vocal harmonies were gorgeous. The show was sold-out and Brian had each of the 25,000 guests in the palm of his hand. Even the obnoxius drunks who come to the show to talk during every song were quiet. When he asked everyone to ignite their cigarette lighters they complied. When he asked us to sing-along we chimed in. It was during "Help Me Rhonda" (which I remember Elton John and John Lennon singing together as a duo in Central Park in the 70s) that the tears started flowing. I don't know if it was the nostalgic quality of the song, or if it was the beauty of the audience and their support for Brian or just the pure guts it took for Brian to put himself out there before us like that - they just came. Normally my first instinct is to make them stop. But I didn't, or couldn't and the music that has healed Brian through all of his trials and traumas - healed me too, even if just for a moment. When the Who came out, after their first song Pete Townsend said, "I've still got tears in my eyes from Brian's set." Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:47:34 EST From: Julian51469@aol.com Subject: Joni's Jazz Part #1 Hello all, Patrick L. was so kind as to trade a copy of the Joni's Jazz tapes with the single request that I write a review. Well, I was really inspired by each and every performance as well as the whole show as an experience....so I reviewed everything (even the NY crowd). I am going to put it out in installments so as not to take up too much time and space. Here's part one: (Just a little note on my method of review or criticizing a work of art: If I can’t find anything positive and constructive to say I don’t say it. I try to look for what the performer is offering rather than what I necessarily want to hear. I find when I take this approach I am able to enjoy myself and my world a little more.) Julian’s Joni’s Jazz I was having a rough day. I was overtired and frustrated with the state of the world. Everything was close to the bone and unforgiving. I tried to sleep off my slump but that only made the mental mud that I was wading through thicker. I forced myself to get out of my apartment and let my walkman take me for a walk with the company of a mix tape of unreleased Joni tunes to comfort my blues. Just before I left my building, I checked the mail....a package....with two tapes....my heart leapt up from a whimper to a whoohoo-hot-damn! I took my previous choice out of the player and quickly replaced it with this new form of gold. Within the space of a couple of minutes, the world was no longer against me, and a familiar sense of meaning and hope traded places with my former confusion. (Who needs birthdays when you can be a part of the JMDL everyday?) So I’m walking down the street and Danny Kapilian’s voice comes on with an opener that invokes for me a feeling of Star Wars mythology, “A long, long time ago...” As Danny comes across with a great sense of humble pride, I can hear the classic New York audience psychoanalyzing and squabbling under their breath out of nervous anticipation. The clarity of the tape puts me right there in the thick of it. Danny Kapilian then relates his personal Joni experience of seeing the “Mingus” band on a mystical evening that is the source of his inspiration for producing this event. His story is also completing a mystical circle. For as the weather and the performance of the “Mingus” show permanently affected him twenty years ago so now does the weather in Central Park and his wishes for “the hair to be raised on the necks of everyone” in the crowd at Joni’s Jazz set the stage for a life changing experience. I’m walking in Washington, DC, in-between Q and R on 17th street on a cool, windy but sunny October day... I settle in to the voodoo being served up on my walkman I shift into surrender mode and let July 1st, the New York crowd, the weather, the performances with all their brilliance and humanity and the whole unfolding mythology wash over me. (I have “no clue what I’m in for.”) This incredible band (directed by the very versatile and passionate Vernon Reid and filled with an all star cast) starts off by rolling us in sonic waves and aural undertow before we are tossed on to the beaches of Malibu with Toshi Reagon and a “Trouble Child.” The band hits a hypnotic groove that absolutely sucks me in. The crowd is pulled in and lets go of some of their anxieties and second guesses. “Oh yeah, Joni Mitchell’s in the house!” Minu Cinelu, on percussion, puts a skip in my step as I walk down the conservative streets of DC. Toshi’s voice soars, glides and growls evoking the wild, beautiful, and fractured character of the song. I catch my breath and find a shaded bench to down on at Church and 18th. The smells and sights of rush hour synchronize with the next song.... Carl Hancock Rux and Dean Bowman’s version of “Jungle Line”. This rendition not only pays tribute but definitely takes it up a notch. I am in the darkest depths of Rousseau’s jungle with his venomous, attractive colors and exotic dangers. I am in a junkie’s shooting gallery, making deals in back alleys, navigating rivers of piranha-traffic. Through Carl Hancock Rux’s versatile power house of vocal stylings (sonic charges, death plunges, and war chief cries) I am taken to the beating heart of every native living on the edge of their civilization. Dean Bowman’s deep under-voicing helps me change lanes and frame each scene with a word or two. The band is bringing all of Joni’s urgency boiling to the surface with the swaggering bass sax, haunted organ, tribal rhythms and euphoric changing to bewildered guitars. I am swimming in dangerous water, taking chances on dark alleys, playing with unknown snakes. (How does Carl do that with his voice? I am now forever haunted by it. The last time I heard this sound was in another life, sung by a high priest, just before I was sacrificed to the gods.) .....Tune in next time when you'll hear about Jane Siberry, Ravi Coltrane and Christina Wheeler. Same JMDL time. Same JMDL channel. Julian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:47:55 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: :o) Hissings demos and rarities!!! In a message dated 10/30/1999 8:03:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: << Unless there's some new news regarding this, Joni's said emphatically that Hits & Misses WAS her box set! BUT it would really be cool to pull about 4 discs together from all the interviews, live shows, and demos and videos and put together a "Joni Rarities" box set, much like the CSNY set that just came out...I don't know why the Record company wouldn't want to do it, there should be a guaranteed market for it, I mean Joni DOES have a core fan base that will buy her work! So my question is: What should be on Joni's Rarities box set? I for one would pick, among lots of other stuff, the early version of "All I Want" with alternate lyrics, the HOSL "Dreamland" of course, and all the second Fret stuff that never saw the light of day (Eastern Rain, Brandy Eyes, etc). Maybe even a whole disc full of the wonderful stories she tells between songs! Bob NP: MeShell, "Faithful" >> BOB!!! BOB!!!! YOU should be a record producer!! The songs you chose would be perfect!!! I would love for her to come out with a box set of rarities!! What a treat. It would also curb the bootleg sells on eBay!!! AND....what is even more interesting is that there (I'm sure) of music that we don't even know exists. Little rare gems poke there gentle little head out from no where time and time again. That is what I like finding...those rare little gemstones. I would love to get my hands on Demo from Hejira, FTR, CAS, BLUE!!! Catgirl....dreaming!!!! NP-Gallery from the BBC 1969 (just Joni) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:41:15 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Brian Wilson (LONG) - NJC Oh Leslie, what a beautiful post about Brian Wilson. Just reading it brought tears to my eyes, and I wasn't even there. Brian has overcome quite a bit and how courageous it was for him to be on stage again. I had no idea he was singing again. I grew up listening to the Beach Boys, and it would be great to see him perform again, especially after reading your post. Thanks so much for sharing. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:15:07 -0500 From: Linda Worster Subject: Re: Brian Wilson (LONG) - NJC Dear Leslie- Thanks for this beautiful post. I'm glad you took the risk... It was wonderful to hear about Brian's show and his courage... and your own in letting yourself cry and in writing about it. > But I didn't, or couldn't and the music >that has healed Brian through all of his trials and traumas - healed me >too, even if just for a moment. this is really beautiful... Linda ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:42:30 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: joni for halloween Deb writes: << Last night I went to a costume party where everyone was directed to come as an influential person of the 20th century. One of the guests came as Joni Mitchell. It helped that she is naturally a dead ringer for Mia Farrow, and she accentuated her cheekbones with makeup, but the rest of her get-up was a big denim shirt and a peace symbol necklace. The stereotype lives on...sigh... >> Even though the stereotype lives on, at least the guest knew enough to choose Joni as an influential person of the 20th century. Jimmy- who is wondering who will take Bob Muller's place tomorrow at Fluor Daniel. His replacement doesn't know it yet, but when he or she signs on to Bob's old computer, they will be instantly sucked into the JMDL :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:49:03 -0600 From: evian Subject: Tapes, postage, etc. (NJC) > You'll need (2) 110 minute cassettes > Ok, is it just me, or do others have a hell of a time finding 110 min. cassettes? Is it because I live in the boonies? I can find 100 min cassettes, but have yet to run into a 110 min. tape. Actually, I talked to a friend in Calgary about this, and she said "Oh, that must be a misprint, I've never heard of 110 mins." Canucks, tell me where the hell to get these big-ass tapes! That's the reason I abandoned the tape trees, because I just couldn't find the damn things. Also, another thing that I need to address to Canadians -- How do you send SASE to the States?? I asked at the post office, and this cranky woman said to me "All I can give you is an international stamp thing" but she made it sound like it was only for letters... so, since I am slow as a Billy-Bob Thornton character, tell me how to go about this! Happy Halloween y'all, Evian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:35:19 EST From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: Re: Tapes, postage, etc. (NJC) In a message dated 10/31/1999 3:54:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, evian@sk.sympatico.ca writes: << s it just me, or do others have a hell of a time finding 110 min. cassettes? Is it because I live in the boonies? I can find 100 min cassettes, but have yet to run into a 110 min. tape. >> I've found them but they're hard to come by. There have been times when I've had to go to 3 or 4 different places to find them. Gina ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:56:36 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Tapes, postage, etc. (NJC) Evian asked: > < min. cassettes? Is it because I live in the boonies? I can find 100 > min cassettes, but have yet to run into a 110 min. tape. >> Evian, Gina and all those who are having trouble finding these supplies locally - I found a wonderful online place awhile back called Cassette House at http://www.tape.com/ The site also has some fantastic links, especially a great link to tape traders worldwide where I've obtained some amazing rare stuff. As for the postage dilemma, I'm not sure about a solution except to work it out somehow with the person providing the tapes. I've copied their intro page here for your information. You can even call and order by phone. Kakki ******************* CASSETTE HOUSE DAT Tape, Blank Cassettes, Blank CD's and Recording Supplies. Order 24 hours a day, 7 days a week! Voice: 800-321-5738 * Fax: 800-848-5738 On the net since '89! Thanks for visiting our site. We sell blank cassettes, dat tape, recordable CD's (blank CD's) and minidiscs. We also sell recording supplies such as cassette labels, cassette "J" cards, dat labels, dat "J" cards, DAT tape storage racks, cassettes, CD's and 8mm tape. We also sell ADAT tape, DA-88 tape, video tape, 8mm tape and DDS tape. We feature products from TDK, Maxell, Sony, Apogee and BASF, to name a few. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:07:08 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Brian Wilson (LONG) - NJC Jimmy wrote: > Oh Leslie, what a beautiful post about Brian Wilson. Just reading it brought > tears to my eyes, and I wasn't even there. Me, too, Leslie. Thanks for sharing the magic and I look forward to your next report. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:17:49 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Brian Wilson (LONG) - NJC leslie! what a beautiful post! you don't know how much i can relate to your feelings. thanks for telling us. wallyk am i wrong or do a lot of the people on this list seem to have been to hell and back too? is that what attracts us to joni? chuck mitchell once said about joni that she wrote for neurotics. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:36:11 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: halloween - NJC we don't have halloween in argentina. isn't that sad?!?!?! on the other hand something very curious happens on halloween day. while it's getting warmer here, it's getting chillier over there. halloween is almost always the day when the weather conditions here meet the weather conditions in new york. i don't know about today, but for many years i could've read new york's weather report and buenos aires' and not know which one was which. wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:38:49 EST From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: patricia barber (njc) and how musicians play Patrick gets the prize from Don Pardo for correctly guessing the "np" CD that I was spinning: << i recently got a 6-song live ep called the patricia barber companion, which i'm betting is what mg is listening to. 'the beat goes on' is the first song. sublime listening. >> My observations of her performance dovetails nicely with Colin's thread that pondered what musicians listened to while playing and Linda's response: >>>I think the best musicians are the best listeners.<<<<< Patricia Barber is a wonderful musician, even to my untrained, non-working, up-too-late ears. The Palms where she played here in Davis is tiny, sitting no more than 175 people. I was no more than 10 feet from her and enjoyed watching how she played. With Linda's observation in mind, I realized that much of Ms. Barber's playing involved listening. Beyond her skills with the piano and her vocals, the overriding quality was her listening. She was backed by a drummer, guitarist and bassist and while it was clear that they supported her, she also seemed to sit back and listen while she played. A cooking analogy came to mind of a chef who is always stirring the pot, tasting the soup and adding to it as needed. The basic recipe with adjustments for seasonal produce, stock quality and spices. It was especially interesting because she came in with the air of an absent minded professor and immediately dropped this ratty looking pile of sheet music, notebook paper scribbled with writing and other odds and ends. Took off her shoes, sat at the piano bench, arranged the pile on top of the piano, gave a nod to her musicians and started in on it. Often, she resembled nothing more than the hunched over piano player from the "Peanuts" cartoon strip, other times, she stopped playing, leaned back and sat with her knees clasped in her arms, seeming to savor the notes offered up by her band. It wasn't improv and it wasn't planned, it just.....was. At the risk of sounding doofy, it was intriguing to see the aura that she gave off during the show. Very cerebral. Her support staff, from musicians to assistants seemed very protective and serving of her. As Patrick pointed out, Ms. Barber is indeed sublime listening and her live show was a real treat. MG nc, (now cooking): vegetable soup with kielbasa and fresh spinach with homemade bread np: "is it time to go trick or treating yet? is it? is it? is it? can we go now? can we go now? huh? huh? huh?huh?huh?huh?huh?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:50:35 +1300 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Heart /Sandra/Stormy Weather/Joni (now njc) Mark wrote: >Ann is the lead singer. She & Nancy occasionally perform with a >smaller group called 'The Lovemongers'. They do a lot of acoustic >stuff. It's kind of their escape from Heart which kinda got to be an >arena rock dinosaur. > >Anyway there is an EP that was put out here in the Northwest several >years ago by the Lovemongers that has a cover of Zep's 'Battle of >Evermore' on it. It is truly awesome. Both the Wilson sisters sing >on it and they really wail. There's also a live version of 'Crazy On >You' and covers of 'Papa Was a Rolling Stone' and 'Love of the Common >Man'. They are all excellent. > >I don't know if this EP was released anywhere outside of the >Northwest. I'd be willing to tape it for people on the list who might >be interested. Email me privately. I recently bought "The Bridge School Concerts - Vol. One" which has a version of "The Battle of Evermore" on it - with Ann on acoustic guitar/vocals and Nancy on mandolin and second vocals - and IMHO it's better than Led Zep's! It's also my favourite song on this concert album - which is high praise from me, since Bonnie Raitt is on there too (as well as Neil Young, Bowie, Tracy Chapman, Tom Petty, etc., etc.)! I don't know if this is the version that Mark is talking about, but it's worth checking out. Helen - in mourning over the All Black loss. 12-year-old's play better rugby than I saw at 4am this morning! _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:59:57 +0100 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: Plug Of The Week #43 Hi there, Right out of the blue landed a gorgeous little CD on my desk a couple of days ago : Kevin Jones - Nobody's Father ( Lemon Tree ) Kevin Jones is the kind of artist who pours himself into his work and the result is a first rate listen. This is just the beginning for Jones - his songs will go far and wide, as will his enthusiasm and love of his craft. His folk songs (some with a bit of country, as well as blues, flavorings) covers events, dreams and everyday life occurences that are easy to identify with. As a performer, Kevin can be subtly humorous, but maintains a genteel aura that assures you he is very serious about his music. On his first album, he's accompanied by by top-flight talent, such as, Mary Chapin-Carpenter, John Jennings (producer, guitarist etc.), Pete Kennedy (Nanci Griffith, The Kennedys etc.), Ace Smith, Jane Gillman and others. Copies of his album are available from : Lemon Tree Productions 1713 18th St. NW #2 Washington DC20009 U.S.A. Phone: 202 - 483 - 9589 Email: Kevmar4@aol.com Great, great album! Take care, Peter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:33:10 -0500 From: Jeanne Whitlock Subject: Jonatha's influences...njc Hi Bob-- I saw Jennifer Kimball last year opening for Patty Larkin--she was terrific! Her cd "Veering from the wave" is great. Go, and post about what you thought....that's being bossy, isn't it??!! 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