From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #461 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Friday, October 15 1999 Volume 04 : Number 461 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: What ever happened to the listmembers galleries? (njc) ["Mark or Trav] Re: Joni's Jazz Tapes Surface!! ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Joni's Jazz Tapes Surface!! ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Bob Dylan on Dharma NJC (now SJC) ["Mark or Travis" ] RE: Joni's Jazz Tapes Surface!! ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:57:05 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: What ever happened to the listmembers galleries? (njc) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 9:12 AM Subject: What ever happened to the listmembers galleries? (njc) > anyone know what clicks to perform on Wallys website to get to the > listmembers photo and non photo galleries? > It's not on Wally's site it's on the JMDL site. www.jmdl.com Just click on Galleries at the top of the page. (I'm sure somebody's already given you this info) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:18:39 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni's Jazz Tapes Surface!! > Bob wrote: > > > Kakki and Patrick, I'm gonna pop y'all's butts for that blatant gloating! > > Here I was all set to comment about the wonderful tape I got from John Low > > with the (7) Fairport Convention Joni covers, and now it hardly seems > worth > > mentioning... > > I would love to hear about the Fairport Convention Joni covers! > > Now you all, I don't think it was Patrick's or my intention to gloat or piss > people off. And it wasn't my (and I think I can speak for Bob here) or Bob's intention to upset you or Patrick or imply that either one of you were being bitches! You just settle down there young lady and smooth those ruffled feathers or your JMDL brothers are gonna have to whale on ya some! Seriously, though, we were just feeling envious and putting out feelers to see if somebody else out there would step up to the plate, right Bob? And somebody (who's name I will not divulge so don't ask, thank you very much!) has already offered to make copies for me. Heavens, Kakki, you've sent me so much music without asking for anything in return that I would never seriously take you to task for something like this! And I certainly didn't mean to cast any dispersions on Patrick either. I just want these tapes. Badly. And I figured the quickest way to get them was to say so. Sorry if my little bit of good-natured whining went amiss. So let's all just relax and enjoy our evening martinis, o-KAY??! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:31:19 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni's Jazz Tapes Surface!! ...and you're right to > tip the cap to the amazin' Simon, to whom we all owe a great debt! Even though we're not supposed to, I just have to second this! Simon has come up with some amazing music and is a wealth of information on a variety of subjects. Hats off to Simon! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:48:30 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Bob Dylan on Dharma NJC (now SJC) > > << Pre VG-8 days when our Joan was thinking of leaving the business, didn't > she write to the producers of Northern Exposure to write in an episode > about her driving thru' Alaska running away from the business? (I got this > from the VG-8 site) >> > > this is the one show i think i could see joni on as even a regular. coming > and going, maybe do a song every so often. I would love to have seen Joni on Northern Exposure. It just seems that she would have fit right in with the likes of Ed Chigliach and Chris the dj and Ruthanne the storekeeper and Shelley & Hollin....can you tell I liked this show and that I miss it? I've taken visitors out to Roslyn Washington a couple of times (the town that doubled for Cicely, Alaska) and it's always as kick to walk down the main street, past the Brick and the Roslyn Cafe (that camel is there, painted on the side of the building). There was a bit of a cottage tourist industry there for awhile but I would imagine that it's falling off now... Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:26:07 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Millenium countdown to be six degree'd In a message dated 10/14/99 6:55:52 PM US Central Standard Time, mark.travis@gte.net writes: << Butchers, you say? I like Joan's cover of 'Simple Twist of Fate' and her Dylan impression beats Joni's hands down as far as I'm concerned. The simpler connection was staring you right in the face on the same album, Bob. 'Dida' sung by both Joans, and right purdy it is, too! >> Gee, I can't believe my "butcher" comment almost lasted the day before it got pounced on (MG must be behind in her reading...) :~) Like I said, I assumed there was a better way...Anne pointed out the Dida thing earlier, and that was news to me. I don't like Joan Baez. I know lots of folks do, and they can have her...just typing her name is making the hairs on the back of my neck stand up... What really pissed me off about her hatchet job of "Simple Twist" was her re-writing of the words..."People feel it's a crime, all it cost me was a dime", whatever it was she did, I couldn't believe she changed Dylan's words. Like Bob Dylan's not a good enough lyricist for her? I know they're good pals and maybe he even wrote the new words for her, I don't know, like I say I'm not a Joan B. fan. But Dylan nailed EVERY song on Blood on the Tracks such that they shouldn't ever be covered, kinda like Michael Bolton doing "Dock of the Bay"...uh, Michael, I think Otis pretty much nailed it! Anyway, enough from me about the sloop Joan B... Bob NP: Cassandra Wilson, "Redbone" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:31:01 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Re: Superficial Observations NJC now Seal In a message dated 10/14/99 6:58:11 PM US Central Standard Time, mark.travis@gte.net writes: << It is a nice record. But I don't think there's a smash hit single in there like 'Kissed By a Rose' which I suspect is why it didn't get pushed on radio, etc so much. It also sounds awfully similar to the previous record. But I like it! I think Seal is a wonderfully soulful singer and certainly knows how to produce good music. That duet with Joni on the '94 record is sublime.... >> Yes Indeed it is pretty...I remember my surprise the first time I heard it because I didn't even know Joni was on the record! And on Human Being, the song "Princess" sounds just like a Joni VG8-style riff to me...I always expect her to start singing when I hear it. And I would pick "Prayer For The Dying" as my fave on '94, but they're really all super! Bob NP: Cassandra, "Tupelo Honey" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 05:31:23 +0100 From: John van Tiel Subject: Joni's Jazz in Europe Simon's wonderful package (thanks Simon!) arrived in my mailbox, too. I'm willing to make copies for all European list members whose branch I've been in any of the past tape trees (and two or three other European JMDL'rs). Please e-mail me privately. Big John from Holland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:47:51 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Joni's Jazz Tapes Surface!! > Well Wally, if Hurricane Irene hits us Saturday morning, S.W. Florida may be > floating down your way in which case they can make a copy for both of us. > > Jimmy well, i declare! you still having hurricanes this late in the year! it's past labor day, ladies! no hurricanes and no white shoes till after april, s'il vous plait!!! wallyk, [seriously, now. i hope irene spares you, jimmy. but you're welcome to float all the way to buenos aires. i'll give you and significant other shelter.] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:51:15 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: What ever happened to the listmembers galleries? (njc) MDESTE1@aol.com asked: << anyone know what clicks to perform on Wallys website to get to the listmembers photo and non photo galleries? >> I believe it's Les' site, Marcel, & it's found at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery Nobody's commented on the self-portrait I painted in High School.... E.T. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:52:55 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: hello, john, hello colin njc big john, you're still among us!!! where have you been hiding? [and it would take an awful lot of hiding to hide big john] and as for colin ... young man, i was worried witless! don't do that to mama walla ever again! wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:35:01 -0700 From: noble@taosnet.com Subject: What do I buy This is a cool topic! I go out and buy sight unseen or heard: besides Joni of course, Laura Nyro :-( Rickie Lee Jones Suzanne Vega Wendy Waldman Tori Amos Jonatha Brooke Jimmie Spheeris :-( Carly Simon David Crosby I revere musicians that write their own words and music and play their own instrments, preferably acoustic(naked music) just them and the guitar or piano. Tucker- out of lurk mode ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:49:52 -0700 (PDT) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: an old new news Terry replied to Helen: <> Agreed!!! I LOVED this most interesting post. S., I hope you come back often to mess with our heads and sit us on our butts. ;-) BTW does "smarcaurele" stand for Sassy Mitch Answers Ritualistic Conversations and Ultimately Reminds Elequently: Likewise Evolve? Miles of smiles, Penny From: "smarcaurele" there was a chitter of fans howling like leaves and trash in the wet winter streets there was always a chitter of fans somewhere made me wonder what the hell was wrong with me and them assuming the hunt was held with the same enthusiasm as those that pursued embraced i wonder about the superficiality of the observations on the songs mixed with subjective interpretations as if that certified intimacy i laugh at those who think me harsh and somber i thank God with very little reverence that i am spared being the center of chatter i curse the devil for spurring on my curiosity, not of them not of they not of those of one whose sparkle deserves guarded shadows not another hand from another lafraneer taxis? shit every one is a doorman with a smile at Christmas! ****** protests of sweetness i look out upon the falling leaves amused by a skinny black cat feeding on the carcass of a ham bone i left it plenty of meat i'll feed it as long as the winter comes and goes as long as it comes and goes the sweetness is the independence the true lack of need of me the fear of me though it could scratch my eyes out the sweetness is watching unobserved of letting that cat in its own sweet time choose or not choose to lick the hand that's taken to feeding it sweetness is no bravado a little humility no reason to fear and sunlight warming the landscape in a measure balanced palitable surrending *** hi i am still around ** s. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 01:57:01 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: Superficial Observations NJC Evian wrote: << np: Less Cities, More Moving People >> I love The Fixx & can't understand why they're always left out of the 80's equation. My personal fav is A Letter To Both Sides. The most interesting band of the 90's to me is Nine Inch Nails. I get into Trent Reznor for the same reason I get into Joni Mitchell - both use rhythm & dissonance to create a totally new sound far beyond the present trend. & both are extremely confessional lyricists (although I relate much more to Joni's blunt sensuality than to Trent's explicit sexuality). I adore Bjork & U2 for the same reasons & am just SO glad my appreciation for rock innovators didn't die in the 70's.... E.T. NP: The Fragile, NIN (*****) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #461 ************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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