From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #391 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Wednesday, September 8 1999 Volume 04 : Number 391 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: What A Country! (NJC) [jan gyn ] Ashara's [Anne Sandstrom ] RE: NJC Bob's lying! ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: Chocolate (njc?) [Louis Lynch ] RE: Chocolate (njc?) [Janene Otten ] RE: NJC Bob's lying! [Anne Sandstrom ] Jonifest [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Re: The SSSSSSSSSSNAKE room! [catman ] Re: The SSSSSSSSSSNAKE room!NJC [catman ] Re: Silk stockings - NJC [catman ] Joni LP News- 2 [Bounced Message ] RE: NJC Re: Joni New LP News! [Chris Marshall ] Joni Gathering at Ashara's [Ginamu@aol.com] Judee Sill (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] Re: NJC Bob's lying! [catman ] Re: Chocolate (njc?) [catman ] Re: NJC Bob's lying! [catman ] Re: What A Country! (NJC) [catman ] NJC: Springsteen Adds More Dates In U.S.A. ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: What A Country! (NJC) [luvart@snet.net] 100% Joni Content ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] NJC: Jeremey Irons/decandent roles, was "What a country!" [MGVal@aol.com] NJC: Music Videos Next Year? ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] JoniFest '99 [Sue ] Joni in Movies ["Julie Z. Webb" ] Re: Joni in Movies [Mark Domyancich ] Re: Jonifest ["Julie Z. Webb" ] Re: Joni in Movies/TV [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Joni in Movies [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: NJC Ashara's Stupendous Bash [Ginamu@aol.com] Re: marcel's comment (and his music) NJC? [Ginamu@aol.com] Re: 100% Joni Content ["Jennifer L. Nodine" ] Re: Joni in Movies/TV ["Jennifer L. Nodine" ] Re: NJC Apology to Ashara [Ashara@aol.com] Re: marcel's comment (NJC) [Ashara@aol.com] Re: more on new Joni!! ["Kakki" ] Re: Jonifest ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni in Movies/TV [Phyliss Ward ] RE: more on new Joni!! ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Bob, show thyself [CaTGirl627@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 13:15:27 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: What A Country! (NJC) (snip) >The most recent film version of Nabokov's "Lolita" was >deemed "pornographic" and kept from wide commercial >release in theatres -- but Brittney Spears "Baby One >More Time" is nominated for Best Music Video ... >Laughing and crying you know it's the same release ... >Don Rowe I read that that 60s Lolita movie is morally more subversive than that recent version... America just gets off on its own puritani$m, time to set the whole place afire... Wowsers, imagine Joni in a Britney Spears type video... (i thought it was 'laughing and crying you know it's the same relief (sic)' first time I heard it.) - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:23:36 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Ashara's Hi everyone. First off, (in case you're confused) I'm (or I was) Anne Rickaby. They just changed my email here at work (yay) So, on to important stuff. Ashara's was "a dream I had awake..." Looking at the pictures made me realize what an incredible, amazing, warm, musical, delicious event it was in the midst of a whirlwind week. I got there after driving home from a vacatin in New Hampshire, and finding a (now infamously) sick cat at home. I was a little nervous as I approached Ashara's yard and was greeted by a policeman - but he smiled so I took a deep breath and said - ok, here goes. Walking into the yard was almost overwhelming. I thought, "Everyone here knows Joni's music as well as or probably better than I do." And before I knew it, I was on 'stage', playing! But I got to quickly say hi to a few people - and was stunned to have Les introduce himself. (We're both also Pierre Bensusan fans - talk about RARE!!!) So, playing was great, but a little scary. I started with a song I wrote inspired by Chelsea Morning. (I pretty much played the chords backwards and came up with this song.) I was so amazed when I asked at the end of the song which Joni tune inspired it - and it seemed everyone said "Chelsea Morning" at the same time. Wow!!! Then I did Big Yellow Taxi, Conversation, and Cactus Tree. In retrospect, I wish I'd done Slouching Toward Bethlehem, Borderline, and Night Ride Home, but maybe next year??? Then, I got to sit back and listen. How amazing to hear one Joni song after another - and done by such wonderfully talented musicians. Oh, and I did get to join in on This Flight Tonight as part of the "F-Troop." That was GREAT!!! Ashara's warmth was genuine and infectious. I'm hoping we can get together again, since we live so close to one another. In her purple top and bright yellow pants, she was the picture of radiant joy. What a remarkable woman! So, some random impressions: Wally's sweet voice tickling my ear with his wonderful renditions of Joni's music... the sweet/spicy smell and taste of shrimp... delight at 'winning' some wonderful memoribilia... lucky pennies - no heads/no tails... hearing Kakki's enthusiastic account of her meeting Joni... being honored to sign Brian's book... sumptuous Gouda and grapes... hearing about CatGirl's 9 felines... a million and one cameras for a million and one group photos... and then running by the video camera... enjoying Bob's emceeing... marveling at Marian's wonderful guitar work... and being brought to tears by Michael Paz's entire set, where he seemed to anticipate my next song request every time... So, then it was time to leave for the refuge of the roads, to tame my little tiger. After being part of this list for such a short time, I'm honored to have been part of this event. Thank you to everyone, especially Ashara. And my best to Wally B. for a day when complete health will be yours. Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:17:11 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: NJC Bob's lying! Mr. Bob Muller! Shame on you! You're one of the hottest-looking jmdlers and you know it VERY well! What's this "I had to hone my sense of humor" nonsense all about? Additionally, a man that has a terrific southern accent, gives grits away to total strangers and looks like a perfected version of James Caan in his best years is not entitled to demureness. Ashara: get out your cane! WallyK - -----Original Message----- De: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Para: Catherine McKay CC: johnlow40@hotmail.com ; joni@smoe.org Fecha: Miércoles 8 de Septiembre de 1999 11:44 Asunto: NJC Re: Bob, show thyself But I warn you, >don't expect much! I learned early on that I was never gonna win anybody >over with my looks so I've spent years attempting to hone my sense of humor >to a sharp edge... > >Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:22:41 -0700 From: Louis Lynch Subject: RE: Chocolate (njc?) Janene, Don't worry. There's a cure for you... Come visit us in central Pennsylvania sometime. I'll drive you past the Hershey factory and Chocolate World and all that on a hot afternoon. You'll never want to eat chocolate again! Harper Lou - -----Original Message----- From: Janene Otten [mailto:JaneneO@mji.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 4:11 PM To: 'joni@smoe.org' Subject: Chocolate (njc?) All of this talk of chocolate has got me jonesing for a Hershey's kiss. A friend just sent this to me and so it is most appropriate for the list at this time: THE RULES OF CHOCOLATE * If you've got melted chocolate all over your hands, you're eating it too slowly. * Chocolate covered raisins, cherries, orange slices & strawberries all count as fruit, so eat as many as you want. * The problem: How to get 2 pounds of chocolate home from the store in hot car. The solution: Eat it in the parking lot. * Diet tip: Eat a chocolate bar before each meal. It'll take the edge off your appetite and you'll eat less. * A nice box of chocolates can provide your total daily intake of calories in one place. Isn't that handy? * If you can't eat all your chocolate, it will keep in the freezer. * But if you can't eat all your chocolate, what's wrong with you? * If calories are an issue, store your chocolate on top of the fridge. Calories are afraid of heights, and they will jump out of the chocolate to protect themselves. * If I eat equal amounts of dark chocolate and white chocolate, is that a balanced diet? Don't they actually counteract each other? * Money talks. Chocolate sings. * Chocolate has many preservatives. Preservatives make you look younger. * Q. Why is there no such organization as Chocoholics Anonymous? A. Because no one wants to quit. * If not for chocolate, there would be no need for control top pantyhose. An entire garment industry would be devastated. * Put "eat chocolate" at the top of your list of things to do today. That way, at least you'll get one thing done. hee hee xoxo Janene np: Nick Drake - Things Behind the Sun ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:39:58 -0400 From: Janene Otten Subject: RE: Chocolate (njc?) I went to Hershey Park when I was a kid and I wanted my parents to move there. Some family friends had just moved to PA and I thought they were so lucky because they had Hershey's chocolate next door. But, as we all know, priorities change; in junior high, I wanted to be in Florida near Busch Gardens for the beer, high school had me longing for San Francisco to be where psychedelia began. In college, one word: Amsterdam. Well, I moved to Florida, hated it, came back after a year. Went to San Francisco and didn't see one hippie, went to Amsterdam and got pick pocketed. I learned not to have such high expectations! LOL confectionerally yours, Janene - -----Original Message----- From: Louis Lynch [mailto:Louis.Lynch@wonderware.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 4:23 PM To: 'Janene Otten'; 'joni@smoe.org' Subject: RE: Chocolate (njc?) Janene, Don't worry. There's a cure for you... Come visit us in central Pennsylvania sometime. I'll drive you past the Hershey factory and Chocolate World and all that on a hot afternoon. You'll never want to eat chocolate again! Harper Lou - -----Original Message----- From: Janene Otten [mailto:JaneneO@mji.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 4:11 PM To: 'joni@smoe.org' Subject: Chocolate (njc?) All of this talk of chocolate has got me jonesing for a Hershey's kiss. A friend just sent this to me and so it is most appropriate for the list at this time: THE RULES OF CHOCOLATE * If you've got melted chocolate all over your hands, you're eating it too slowly. * Chocolate covered raisins, cherries, orange slices & strawberries all count as fruit, so eat as many as you want. * The problem: How to get 2 pounds of chocolate home from the store in hot car. The solution: Eat it in the parking lot. * Diet tip: Eat a chocolate bar before each meal. It'll take the edge off your appetite and you'll eat less. * A nice box of chocolates can provide your total daily intake of calories in one place. Isn't that handy? * If you can't eat all your chocolate, it will keep in the freezer. * But if you can't eat all your chocolate, what's wrong with you? * If calories are an issue, store your chocolate on top of the fridge. Calories are afraid of heights, and they will jump out of the chocolate to protect themselves. * If I eat equal amounts of dark chocolate and white chocolate, is that a balanced diet? Don't they actually counteract each other? * Money talks. Chocolate sings. * Chocolate has many preservatives. Preservatives make you look younger. * Q. Why is there no such organization as Chocoholics Anonymous? A. Because no one wants to quit. * If not for chocolate, there would be no need for control top pantyhose. An entire garment industry would be devastated. * Put "eat chocolate" at the top of your list of things to do today. That way, at least you'll get one thing done. hee hee xoxo Janene np: Nick Drake - Things Behind the Sun ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:54:37 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: RE: NJC Bob's lying! OK, I admit it. (blushing, can't believe I'm saying this in front of the whole list, but I just have to...) Bob - You said "I learned early on that I was never gonna win anybody over with my looks" - gee, you coulda fooled me! (not to mention won ME over) Wally's right! You are one of the hottest-looking jmdlers - not small feat considering how incredibly handsome ALL the men were at Ashara's. (You didn't think I'd grown up on Joni's music for nothing, did you :-) "still the slightest touch of a stranger...") slight giggle ok, I'll go back to work now Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:11:55 -0700 (PDT) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Jonifest Hi All! Where do I begin to write about this past weekend? Maybe first I should say I went to Jonifest not for the music, which was wonderful BTW, but for the opportunity to bring the relationships established through the JMDL to a face to face level. Hoping, in part, to feel more comfortable with how to relate with other listers in our interactions both in on-list discussions, but the private correspondences that come my way as well. I came away convinced that some of the on-list discussions that have had a tendency to become heated, if done face to face with the JMDLers that I met, would typically remain pleasant and insightful conversations despite opposing points of view. I was very encouraged by how warm, accepting, intelligent and sensitive in spirit are the list members I met. (Not to mention talented and fun, too! ;-) I only wish I could have had more time to visit with each person alone at length. Unfortunately, the conversations with many ended up being little more than introductions as we all had many people we wanted to meet and get to know better. Ashara, thank you for your courage, hospitality and the energy required to put together a gathering of this scope and size. Amazing! I could have NEVER pulled off an event that flowed so smoothly! Thank you for arranging for Jim to be our ride from here to there for many of us. And thank you for a famous "Ashara hug" and the kiss on the cheek that didn't go unnoticed at Atty Mae's. ;-) It was a great pleasure visiting with you, Paz. More than anyone else there, I felt like I had met you before and already knew you. Your fabulous talents and giving spirit are incredible. Parting to me was more a sense of "I'll be seeing ya again sometime soon, man" than realizing the mileage distance that separates most of us. And thanks for the Joni tales you told, especially the one of your first encounter with her. ;-D Catgirl, your incredible voice and guitar playing knocked my socks off! Why did I picture you as meek? Folks, this 'cat'girl can do it all, and very, very well, to boot! Quite the capable Cat! Kakki, well what can be said about Kakki that hasn't been said so many times before? An absolute doll! The classy party girl! Fun, extremely intelligent conversationalist, perceptive, sensitive, adventurous and talented all rolled into one free spirited package. Thanks for showing Gina and me how to get out to Ashara's after we had just spent 45 minutes trying to navigate the bizarre highway system around Danvers! ;-D "Oh look, there's our motel again!" (repeat about 20 times) If there was ever a time to have a mobile Candid Camera, it would have been to watch Gina and I try to get from one side of the highway to the other. LOL!! So thanks Kakki for rescuing us from further navigation after we met up with you. And thanks too for the martini introduction! Sorry I wussed out on it after two tiny sips! I think Julie Z Webb must have taken care of the rest of it for me. :-) Remember, Ashara was stressing for us not to waste! ;-D Oh, and one more thing about Kakki. She could be a carbon copy, in personality, of my favorite Aunt Karen who we lost in an accident 15 years ago, at the same age Kakki is now. That added to why I was drawn to Kakki immediately. Marian, what a sweetheart! Fabulous guitar player! Lovely, lovely person. I feel so honored to have had the chance to visit with you and hear you play. And thanks for promising me a guitar lesson next year....but honey, you don't know how seriously impaired I am when it comes to rhythm! I bet even you will enjoy some belly laughs as you encounter such a futile attempt to teach! ;-) Brother Bob, you funny guy, you! (and Catherine, he's very handsome!) You know since you and I both acknowledge that we have no musical talents, and we both look like ex-jocks, how about we let pride take over for a time and challenge Paz and Kakki to a game of two on two roundball at Ashara's driveway hoop. Even though Paz has got the height, I bet you could out 'quick' the laid back guy from New Orleans. Taking Kakki shouldn't be to tough considering she'll probably be in a dress and heels with a martini in one hand and skinny cigarette in the other. (I would suggest we challenge them to some Scriptural trivia challenge, but Kakki is pretty darn sharp in that area as well!) Les, what a great guy! And found out that along with Mark from Seattle and myself, we were all originally from Iowa. Thank you Les for bringing us all together through your website. Who would have thunk it could be so impacting to so many. And yes, Les, I'd love to continue our discussion we started at Ashara's, sometime down the road. John vanTiel was such a treat to be around. John, you were the greatest unexpected surprise for me. This is one amazing man! A gentle giant that I wish could just slip me into his shirt pocket so I could be in the company of such warmth, humor, intelligence and generosity at all times. I could never say enough accolades about this man. And wasn't the 'adventure' we shared in the cab ride back to our motels from Atty Mae's memorable? :-D (The woman we picked up during our ride back was quite colorful! ;-) Thanks so much for all you gave to me. I will never forget you. Mark from Seattle, (and Iowa), I wish we could have chatted so much more. Being that we're only about 2 1/2 hours away from each other, I suspect we'll be able to visit again in person before to long without a jet-lag factor. I know I'm leaving many wonderful people out of my report, but there just wasn't enough time to get all the conversations and impressions in that could have been. Sigh..... Maybe next time I'll use the time more efficiently. Penny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 22:12:07 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: The SSSSSSSSSSNAKE room! The strange thing is, I used to live in Singapore and Aussie, where they have lots of snakes and deadly ones. in fact I think the most deadly ones are in Aussie. Anyway, I saw loads and even handled them. I used to play in the garden-which was the jungle and came across loads of them. i even took a snake to school. But I was a kid then. Quite why i now have this fear of them I don't know. but then i also used to trampoline and climb cliffs and tress and scoffolding. Now I can't even go up a step ladder. i have a terrible fear of heights. I once made a complete tit of myself in a shopping mall by getting into the lift and not realising till the doors closed that it was glass and went up the OUTSIDE. I just sat on the floor and crawled out the next stop. As a kid I was always in trouble and really adventurous and never afraid. now I am just a wimp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 22:12:15 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: The SSSSSSSSSSNAKE room!NJC The strange thing is, I used to live in Singapore and Aussie, where they have lots of snakes and deadly ones. in fact I think the most deadly ones are in Aussie. Anyway, I saw loads and even handled them. I used to play in the garden-which was the jungle and came across loads of them. i even took a snake to school. But I was a kid then. Quite why i now have this fear of them I don't know. but then i also used to trampoline and climb cliffs and tress and scoffolding. Now I can't even go up a step ladder. i have a terrible fear of heights. I once made a complete tit of myself in a shopping mall by getting into the lift and not realising till the doors closed that it was glass and went up the OUTSIDE. I just sat on the floor and crawled out the next stop. As a kid I was always in trouble and really adventurous and never afraid. now I am just a wimp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 22:13:39 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Silk stockings - NJC Catherine McKay wrote: > So, Colin, when you say "I know her husband," are we talking "know" in the > biblical sense? ;) Of course not. I am strict in my morals. I am happy with my own anyway. > > > cateri@hotmail.com > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -- "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:20:32 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Joni LP News- 2 From: "Tortorici, Frank" Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:33:14 -0400 I spoke to Joni's PR rep and management company. They both say the story is correct. The new LP, with standards (I think jazz/soul/pop, probably "Comes Love" and "Trouble Man") and a few re-recordings of Joni songs is slated for early 2000. No track listing yet. They'll let me know in late Oct. Warner Bros./Reprise is also releasing the tribute album, including the artists SonicNet (the magazine I write for) mentioned, around the same time. More Joni than we ever expected so soon! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 22:19:53 +0100 From: Chris Marshall Subject: RE: NJC Re: Joni New LP News! On Wednesday, September 08, 1999 8:39 PM, Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com [SMTP:Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] wrote: > Bob Muller, who come to think of it has kind of a pasta-ish last name > himself... Isn't it more yogurt than pasta? :-) (Try as I might, I can't remember how to spell... ah... *that* word. Micro$oft's spell checker rekons it's right, but then is it doing US english rather than *english* english? Awww, to hell with it.) - --Chris NP: Eiffel 65, "Blue" (now there's a bizarre, yet catchy, song...) Chris Marshall Secure Systems Integration Ltd Web: http://www.secure-si.co.uk/ Tel: +44 (0) 7970 459 553 Fax: +44 (0) 1954 201 741 E-mail: chris@secure-si.co.uk PGP key: http://www.secure-si.co.uk/chris/pubkey.txt Fingerprint: 49F7 5132 C599 6ADC 47E7 844E A612 3F53 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:31:48 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: more on new Joni!! From: "Tortorici, Frank" Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:27:05 -0400 Joni Mitchell Keeps Busy S.L. Feldman & Associates - 9/4/1999 at 07:40:52 The Joni Mitchell Tribute Album is now finished and scheduled for release before the end of the year. Chaka Khan, Elvis Costello, Bjork, Etta James, Janet Jackson and others have recorded their favorite Joni songs for this long-overdue salute to one of the best songwriters of our generation. A complete track-listing should be available soon. Following her attendance in the audience at July 1st's "Joni's Jazz" concert in Central Park, Mitchell flew to the U.K. to record the orchestral tracks for her next album, tentatively entitled Both Sides Now. In addition to some of Joni's personal favorite standards, she's also re-recorded her own compositions "Both Sides Now" and "A Case Of You" for this new album. Last Monday (August 30), Joni began recording her vocal tracks in a studio in L.A., and if this process goes well, the new album may also be ready for release around the same time as the tribute album, but don't count on it- a date in February or March of 2000 seems more likely. Whenever this album of standards is released to the public, Joni has been invited to debut her album with a full orchestra at La Scala, the birthplace of opera, in Milan, Italy. If Joni accepts this invitation to perform, the show will be filmed for a TV special. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:00:31 EDT From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: Joni Gathering at Ashara's Hi you guys! Since I arrived home on Sunday afternoon from Joni Fest, I've been deluged with kids, house and returning to work after three wonderful months off. What can I say that hasn't already been said? It was an incredible experience to meet the people whose posts I've been reading since early this year. As Wally K. said, it was like a very powerful hallucination at first and I felt overwhelmed in a really positive way. I must have stumbled and fallen a few times but then I found my way around and things sort of evened out. The familiar strains of Joni music brought me down to earth again, literally, as I laid on the cool grass while Michael Paz' wonderful VG8 sounds and great interpretations filled my head and my soul. Everyone's musical contributions were wonderful. Such talent in one place, among folks one "knows" already through the list, was so gratifying to me as to render me unable to truly explain well how I feel about the whole experience. And indeed it was one of the most positive and powerful experiences I've had in a long time. Penny, thanks for navigating! The highways in the western part of the state are much simpler and God knows I rarely get out of these hills and when I do I go straight to downtown Boston! You were certainty a good sport about the whole thing and thanks for you company. I'm so glad about my 11th hour decision to attend. Thank you all so much. It was so great to meet you all! Take care, Gina ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:32:42 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Judee Sill (NJC) Paul (my long-lost born-a-day-apart Leo brother) Castle asked if anyone remembered or liked Judee Sill. Me! Me! I saw her open for Gordon Lightfoot at the Troubadour on 1/7/72 (er, that's 7/1/72 in Britspeak, Paul!), loved the first album. So-so on the second. Never found the third. About 3 years ago, I was at a concert by Bryndle (Karla Bonnof, Wendy Waldman and Kenny Edwards, label-mates of Judee at Asylum). Sitting in front of me was a woman who looked like a 40-something Judee Sill. I never got up the nerve to speak to her, but I posted to the FOLKDJ-L, asking for current info on her - those DJs know EVERYTHING! I got several responses - some months later, but was crushed to hear that Judee died in 1974 at the age of 25. Her song "Lady-O" is on one of the Rhino "Troubadours of Folk" CD compilations. Paul, I will e-mail you off list with all the responses I received - several from the UK - maybe it is one of these guys who started the website? Anyway, thanks for bringing her name up again. ############################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" *NEW* website at: http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" (Website soon!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 00:24:40 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: NJC Bob's lying! Anne Sandstrom wrote: > OK, I admit it. (blushing, can't believe I'm saying this in front of the > whole list, but I just have to...) > > Bob - You said "I learned early on that I was never gonna win anybody over > with my looks" - gee, you coulda fooled me! (not to mention won ME over) > Wally's right! You are one of the hottest-looking jmdlers - not small feat > considering how incredibly handsome ALL the men were at Ashara's. You men should be glad I wasn't there. > (You > didn't think I'd grown up on Joni's music for nothing, did you :-) "still > the slightest touch of a stranger...") > > slight giggle > > ok, I'll go back to work now > > Anne - -- "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 00:24:52 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Chocolate (njc?) Did you know that there is a chemical in chocolate that causes a high and is addictive? I hardly ever eat chocolate now. About 7 years ago i was given(by J)a box of hand made Belgian chocolates. Since then I have eaten nothing else in the way of chocolate unless it is Belgian. These chocs cost about $30 per 1lb box. The other extraordinary thing is that the box lasted several days!!!!!! They are really satisfying as far as choc goes so a couple at a time is more than enough. And this from someone who could eat a few bars of the ordinary stuff in one sitting. When I was about 8 and living in Hereford, Germany, there was a choc factorty nearby. A man there used to give me a big plastic bag of choc straight from the vat. I'd take it home, stick it the fridge and eat it when it had set. it didn't exactly look too good-like a big pile of doo doo-but what the hell i was only a child and didn't give a shit what it looked like! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 00:24:48 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: NJC Bob's lying! So, Bob, when are you visiting me? Wally Kairuz wrote: > Mr. Bob Muller! > Shame on you! You're one of the hottest-looking jmdlers and you know it VERY > well! What's this "I had to hone my sense of humor" nonsense all about? > Additionally, a man that has a terrific southern accent, gives grits away to > total strangers and looks like a perfected version of James Caan in his best > years is not entitled to demureness. Ashara: get out your cane! > WallyK > > -----Original Message----- > De: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com > Para: Catherine McKay > CC: johnlow40@hotmail.com ; joni@smoe.org > > Fecha: Miércoles 8 de Septiembre de 1999 11:44 > Asunto: NJC Re: Bob, show thyself > > But I warn you, > >don't expect much! I learned early on that I was never gonna win anybody > >over with my looks so I've spent years attempting to hone my sense of humor > >to a sharp edge... > > > >Bob - -- "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 00:24:56 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: What A Country! (NJC) Don Rowe wrote: > In this great melting pot of contradiction these > United States have truly become, consider briefly the > following item: > > The most recent film version of Nabokov's "Lolita" was > deemed "pornographic" and kept from wide commercial > release in theatres This film presents a difficult problem, for me anyway. I don't know if it is pornographic as I haven't seen it. I don't believe in censorship. However, the story is appalling. Not only is it about child abuse i.e. an adult man having sex with a child, but the story blames the child for the man's behaviour.I am assuming this is the same film that jeremy irons recently starred in? He has suspicious views too. he stated in a high brow magazine that he caned his boys naked behinds when they did not please him. > -- but Brittney Spears "Baby One > More Time" is nominated for Best Music Video ... > > Laughing and crying you know it's the same release ... > > Don Rowe > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com - -- "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:29:40 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC: Springsteen Adds More Dates In U.S.A. http://www.backstreets.com/tour.html - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** Tolerance, tolerance, tol... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:49:23 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: NJC Apology to Ashara Yesterday I made a comment that I could never attend a Jonifest at Ashara's because of phobia about snakes and she has a snake room... today I thought repeatedly what a jerk I was for that comment. Should Ashara again graciously offer to host a Jonifest out of her goodness and generousity of life and spirit - and Joniness - I will be there, as I should have been this year. And it will be responsibility to stay out of that room. I apologise, Ashara. I think my paucity of goodwill yesterday was from a smallness of attitude that was evoked by some conflicts at work and I misspoke myself. Ashara is obviously the host of the 90s and the JMDLers who attended Ashara's are the guests of the 90s and I and all who missed this year's festival missed out on something very special. Very special. And maybe the fact that I was angry at the circumstances that caused me not to attend this year were behind the snippy tone that I would never direct at one of the great people of this list. I only hope to some day grow up and be as gracious of a person as Ashara. (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:54:28 -0400 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: Re: What A Country! (NJC) At 12:24 AM 9/9/99 +0100, catman wrote: >This film presents a difficult problem, for me anyway. I don't know if >it is pornographic as I haven't seen it. I don't believe in censorship. >However, the story is appalling. Not only is it about child abuse i.e. >an adult man having sex with a child, but the story blames the child for >the man's behaviour.I am assuming this is the same film that jeremy >irons recently starred in? He has suspicious views too. he stated in a >high brow magazine that he caned his boys naked behinds when they did >not please him. Have you seen Jeremy Irons in the film "Damage" ? It seems he often chooses these decadent roles. I wonder why? I wasn't crazy about the movie but I really liked the sound track. Now here's a thread ... how many movies have you viewed that sucked but the sound track was really good? Heather ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 20:04:32 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: 100% Joni Content This has to be the most inspiring sentences in a while! Bravo! >>>>>>> B R A V O ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MG wrote: > One of the best things about Joni's songs is that a lot of the upbeat and a > lot of the pain themes work well with teenaged angst, but they are not > superficial and as the listener continues to mature and experience, the songs > seem to grow right along with you. - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** Tolerance, tolerance, tol... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:08:06 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: NJC: Jeremey Irons/decandent roles, was "What a country!" In a message dated 9/8/99 4:59:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, luvart@snet.net writes: << Have you seen Jeremy Irons in the film "Damage" ? It seems he often chooses these decadent roles. I wonder why? I wasn't crazy about the movie but I really liked the sound track. >> Interesting, I loved that movie. I thought that he really captured a person who could not make a balance in his life and then just careened down the path of destruction. I think that it is a great movie for advocating responsible self-awareness if nothing else! MG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 20:22:45 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC: Music Videos Next Year? Open note to Chuck: Did anyone shoot video this year? I was thinking today about the VHS Hi-Fi format (Hi Catgirl) and how it would be a perfect way to capture the music/video that happens on stage. If we could get a stereo feed from the board and lay it down on VHS Hi-Fi we'd have a reasonable quality sound that could be in perfect sync with the image. I'd have to scrounge up a video camera that could feed the RCA jacks on my VCR. I could turn off the video if someone is shy or has contractural obligations (Hi Bryan). - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** Tolerance, tolerance, tol... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:12:40 -0400 From: Sue Subject: JoniFest '99 Hello gang, Reading with delight all of the details of the New England bash. How great to see old and new faces (hi Julie!) enjoying the Joni vibe. Long live the list! Green with envy in Northern Michigan where the leaves are electric.... Sue Cameron (Suze) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 18:50:44 -0400 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Joni in Movies Heather's question about movie sound tracks got me thinking about how often Joni's music has been used in movies. Do we have a list of all the movies/tv episodes ever made which feature the work of Joni Mitchell? If not I'll start the list: Film: 1. A Walk On The Moon 2. Practical Magic "A Case Of You" Television: 1. thirtysomething "River" 2. Melrose Place "Sex Kills" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:34:48 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Joni in Movies A few off the top of my head... At 6:50 PM -0400 9/8/99, Julie Z. Webb wrote: >Film: >1. A Walk On The Moon >2. Practical Magic "A Case Of You" >Television: >1. thirtysomething "River" >2. Melrose Place "Sex Kills" >3. Chicago Hope "A Case of You" >4. Ally McBeal "Both Sides Now" NP-Banquet ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:07:06 -0400 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Re: Jonifest At 02:11 PM 9/8/99 -0700, Penny wrote: >And thanks too for the martini introduction! >Sorry I wussed out on it after two tiny sips! I think Julie Z Webb >must have taken care of the rest of it for me. :-) I know you jest here, but for the public record, I only had one martini. -Julie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:04:39 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Joni in Movies/TV Julie started, Mark Domyancich continued, and Vince makes a feeble stab at: > A few off the top of my head... > > At 6:50 PM -0400 9/8/99, Julie Z. Webb wrote: > >Film: > >1. A Walk On The Moon > >2. Practical Magic "A Case Of You" 3. Grace of My Heart > > > >Television: > >1. thirtysomething "River" > >2. Melrose Place "Sex Kills" > >3. Chicago Hope "A Case of You" > >4. Ally McBeal "Both Sides Now" 5. Friends ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:06:46 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in Movies In a message dated 9/8/99 8:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jzw@visint.com writes: << Heather's question about movie sound tracks got me thinking about how often Joni's music has been used in movies. Do we have a list of all the movies/tv episodes ever made which feature the work of Joni Mitchell? If not I'll start the list: Film: 1. A Walk On The Moon 2. Practical Magic "A Case Of You" 3. Alice's Restaurant "Songs to Aging Children Come" covered by Buffy St. Marie (I think) Television: 1. thirtysomething "River" 2. Melrose Place "Sex Kills" 3. some soap opera on NBC that I slept through last week "Circle Game" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:21:37 EDT From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Ashara's Stupendous Bash In a message dated 9/8/99 7:42:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, revrvl@pathwaynet.com writes: << Ashara is obviously the host of the 90s and the JMDLers who attended Ashara's are the guests of the 90s and I and all who missed this year's festival missed out on something very special. >> Ashara is truly amazing, as everyone has said. I didn't have an opportunity to chat with her much (boo hoo) but I watched her occasionally and throughout the pace of Saturday's activities, she always managed to look lovely and radiant and to behave so kindly toward everyone around her, even when people seemed to be lined up to talk to her while others were all simultaneously asking her questions, meanwhile managing some feat or other to make the whole thing a wonderful success. Wow!!! Thanks again, Ashara. Take care, Gina ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:28:44 EDT From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: Re: marcel's comment (and his music) NJC? In a message dated 9/8/99 9:25:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com writes: << PS: I forgot to mention in my report (can you believe I forgot to mention ANYTHING in my report?) about marcel calling in to Jonifest and that I had the pleasure of talking to him. Interesting footnote: He even SPEAKS in lower case! :~) >> Speaking of Marcel, I have been swamped so I don't know if anyone's mentioned this or not but...I had the pleasure of being in the room when Marcel's tape was played and I just wanted to say that I absolutely loved it! Marcel, your version of Cactus Tree was truly lovely. It was so cool that some of us got to hear your talent along with all the live talent at Joni Fest. I hope you're able to perform live at Joni Fest next year! Take care, Gina ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 22:03:18 -0400 From: "Jennifer L. Nodine" Subject: Re: 100% Joni Content Hear, hear, Jim! I second that! Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > > This has to be the most inspiring sentences in a while! Bravo! > >>>>>>> B R A V O ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > MG wrote: > > One of the best things about Joni's songs is that a lot of the upbeat and a > > lot of the pain themes work well with teenaged angst, but they are not > > superficial and as the listener continues to mature and experience, the songs > > seem to grow right along with you. > -- > All the best, > Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** Tolerance, tolerance, tol... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 22:07:27 -0400 From: "Jennifer L. Nodine" Subject: Re: Joni in Movies/TV > > Julie started, Mark Domyancich continued, and Vince makes a feeble stab > at, then Jenny from CT chimes in... > > > A few off the top of my head... > > > > At 6:50 PM -0400 9/8/99, Julie Z. Webb wrote: > > >Film: > > >1. A Walk On The Moon > > >2. Practical Magic "A Case Of You" > > 3. Grace of My Heart > > > > > > > >Television: > > >1. thirtysomething "River" > > >2. Melrose Place "Sex Kills" > > >3. Chicago Hope "A Case of You" > > >4. Ally McBeal "Both Sides Now" > > 5. Friends 6. Party of Five "Circle Game" (BTW what happened to that show?????) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 22:13:41 EDT From: Ashara@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Apology to Ashara In a message dated 9/8/99 7:41:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, revrvl@pathwaynet.com writes: << Yesterday I made a comment that I could never attend a Jonifest at Ashara's because of phobia about snakes and she has a snake room... today I thought repeatedly what a jerk I was for that comment.>> Vince, Vince, Vince!!!!! I hope you receive this post before you go to bed tonight, because I DO NOT want you to lose sleep over this!!! The comment totally rolled over me, and I never gave it a second thought! Lots of people have an adversion to snakes, and I completely understand! <> Vince, I hope you do make it next year if I have it again!! Just for the record, I specifically ask who has an aversion to snakes, and who doesn't, so they don't have to sleep in that room if they have any fear. << I apologise, Ashara. I think my paucity of goodwill yesterday was from a smallness of attitude that was evoked by some conflicts at work and I misspoke myself.>> No apologies necessary at all, Vince. <> {Please read the following with a nice Yenta-like Jewish accent, OK?} OK...now THIS one, I have a problem with. ;-) You guys need to stop already with all the nice things you are saying about me! OY!! You are embarrassing me to no end!!! I like people.....I like company......I like to feed people....I am organized....so sue me! But enough already with the "Ashara is so great" mishegas! Hugs, Ashara {giggle} ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 22:25:19 EDT From: Ashara@aol.com Subject: Re: marcel's comment (NJC) In a message dated 9/8/99 9:25:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com writes: << So maybe there IS some truth to this Y2K end of the world stuff! Ashara, I hope you realize that if the world does start to end, all JMDLer's will sojourn to Topsfield to spend the final days together...:~) >> I can't think of a nicer way to go! :-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:13:43 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: more on new Joni!! >Joni began recording her vocal tracks in a studio in L.A., and if this process goes well, the new >album may also be ready for release around the same time as the tribute album, but don't count on >it- a date in February or March of 2000 seems more likely. > >Whenever this album of standards is released to the public, Joni has been invited to debut her >album with a full orchestra at La Scala, the birthplace of opera, in Milan, Italy. Oooh, goody!! This means we have a little lead time to save and plan for a Milan-fest!! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:15:37 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Jonifest Julie clarified: > >And thanks too for the martini introduction! > >Sorry I wussed out on it after two tiny sips! I think Julie Z Webb > >must have taken care of the rest of it for me. :-) > I know you jest here, but for the public record, I only had one martini. > -Julie And believe it or not, so did I! Kakki, feeling guilty for being a bad influence this weekend ;-D ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:57:09 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Joni in Movies/TV "Jennifer L. Nodine" wrote: > > > > Julie started, Mark Domyancich continued, and Vince makes a feeble stab > > at, then Jenny from CT chimes in... > > > > > A few off the top of my head... > > > > > > At 6:50 PM -0400 9/8/99, Julie Z. Webb wrote: > > > >Film: > > > >1. A Walk On The Moon > > > >2. Practical Magic "A Case Of You" > > > > 3. Grace of My Heart > > > > > > > > > > > >Television: > > > >1. thirtysomething "River" > > > >2. Melrose Place "Sex Kills" > > > >3. Chicago Hope "A Case of You" > > > >4. Ally McBeal "Both Sides Now" > > > > 5. Friends > 6. Party of Five "Circle Game" > > (BTW what happened to that show?????) You've Got Mail - "River" and "Both Sides Now" (at least the lyrics were spoken by Meg and Tom) - -- Phyliss pward@lightspeed.net http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:43:34 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: more on new Joni!! - -----Original Message----- De: Kakki Para: Bounced Message ; joni@smoe.org Fecha: Miércoles 8 de Septiembre de 1999 20:55 Asunto: Re: more on new Joni!! >>Whenever this album of standards is released to the public, Joni has been >invited to debut her >>album with a full orchestra at La Scala, the birthplace of opera, in Milan, >Italy. > >Oooh, goody!! This means we have a little lead time to save and plan for a >Milan-fest!! > >Kakki > wouldn't that be great, though? and think of all the money marian would save on airfares... wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:50:54 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Bob, show thyself In a message dated 9/8/1999 12:14:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cateri@hotmail.com writes: << I'm with you, John! If there's one person I'd really like to know what he looks like (I recognize that was really bad English, but I can't think of the proper way to say that just now!) it's Bob Muller of Fluoride (or whatever the hell the rest of that address is!) Not that you're ever going to catch my ugly mug anywhere! >> It sounds to me Les that you need to get that Pic of Bob with Joni holding his hand out there in the Gallery!!! Or Bob send me a scan and I will put it on JoniMitchellFans@Onelist! Catgirl boy I love that picture!! ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #391 ************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?