From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #387 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Tuesday, September 7 1999 Volume 04 : Number 387 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Heart,Humor&Humility 2 [Mark Domyancich ] No really, Mom, I was at work! All weekend! Honest! [MGVal@aol.com] Re: Heart,Humor&Humility ps ["Julie Z. Webb" ] fest pictures addy [CaTGirl627@aol.com] jonifest 99 ["Happy The Man" ] The First Time [Leslie Mixon ] JoniFest page with pictures [Les Irvin ] Re: The First Time [RMuRocks@aol.com] Re: Lost and found [Vince Lavieri ] Lost and found /Gallery NJC ["Wally Kairuz" ] Ashara Never Lies [Les Irvin ] Friends of Spirit 3 ["Julie Z. Webb" ] Jonifest ["Helen M. Adcock" ] JC: Party Report [Kate Tarasenko ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:04:00 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Heart,Humor&Humility 2 I'm so touched! Next year, I promise! If I have to ride my BIKE! Maybe someone should start another JoniFest-one a year is not enough! I'm enjoying reading everyone's stories of this year's fest, and am looking forward to everyone's pictures! Mark (aka Harpua) NP-Joni-Carnegie Hall '72-A Case of You The infamous JulieZWebb wrote: >Look, I find this so intriguing that I'd probably find funding to fly to >Iceland to meet Harpua and Simon ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:12:08 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: No really, Mom, I was at work! All weekend! Honest! What can I say about this past weekend? From the laundry to the kitchen flooring waxing to the lawn mo....Whoa! Back up! Wrong fabulous weekend! This past weekend at Ashara's surpasses even that aforementioned chore fest. Hard to believe but it's true. Everyone else has already beat me to the punch with their wonderful descriptions, so I'll just add some highlights of mine: Meeting Wally K was a highlight. He's been so good to my daughter and we share some similar funky Catholic backgrounds, that it was really like meeting a long lost brother. Mark from Seattle was another treat. A wonderfully funny guy and a real hunk-a-matic, I was pleased to finally put a body to the list posts. Ashara and Maggie were the best and I cannot find the words to do the honor of all they arranged. Michael Paz's rendition of "Love Puts On A New Face," made me thankful that I bought Maybelline's waterproof mascara. I can't remember the last time a song broke my heart and made me ache inside so much. Exquisite pain. Marian Russell - it was wonderful to see her again. She is the best at writing, singing and playing and just being there to chat. John from Holland was a delight! I enjoyed his energy and some good chats with him. There are more and I know that I'm forgetting what I should be adding to this post, but my kids SHOULD be let out of the closet now since they've been so good for the past weekend while I was gone..... Thanks and much love to all, MG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 06:13:48 -0400 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Re: Heart,Humor&Humility ps At 05:00 AM 9/5/99 -0400, I wrote about Wally: >that came from so far deep inside him that it took my breath away...maybe >because his improvisational grace was so beautiful and raw and true. >During "Edith and The Kingpin" he gave it to us poetically and then somehow Shooooot, While giving our kids their baths, I just realized that it wasn't "Edith and The Kingpin" that Wally sang. It was "The Last Time I Saw Richard" So if you read my post, replace "E&TK" with "TLTISR" -Julie aka Emily Latella, still ditzy after all these years ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:07:34 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: fest pictures addy Hello! Who ever still has the addy for the labor day fest pics please send me the addy. I want to see if I get put the pictures on onelist. So any one just mail it to me privately. Thanks Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:17:10 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: jonifest 99 ...Explosions of your autumn till we meet again I miss your touch and your lips so much I long for our next embrace".... please continue to share your sounds with those who are far away. Peace, Craig ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 18:57:12 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: The First Time A while back I sent a message to the list about introducing a friend to Joni's music. Jose is from Puerto Rico and until visiting my house, had never even heard of Joni Mitchell. I saw him again today and he asked if I had any more Joni on video, and how much he'd like to hear more of her. The first time he heard Joni was on the Shadows & Light video. I was wondering if any of you have stories about turning someone on to Joni for the first time - I bet they'd be fun stories to share. Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 20:27:16 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: JoniFest page with pictures Hi Joniphiles - The JoniFest page has gone up on the website. It's evolving as I get pictures and reports from people - so keep checking back for expanded coverage. Check it out at: http://www.jmdl.com/gallery/jfne9909.htm Les - hoping to send his report to the list one of these days soon. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:32:42 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Re: The First Time In a message dated 9/6/99 7:37:07 PM US Central Standard Time, stevem@cruzio.com writes: << I was wondering if any of you have stories about turning someone on to Joni for the first time - I bet they'd be fun stories to share. >> I've planted a lot of seeds Leslie, but haven't seen any fruit yet...I hope in 10 years or so I'll have this whole flood of folks from my Sunday School classes that "get" Joni and thank for me for turning them on to her. But time will have to tell... Bob NP: "In France They Kiss on Main St." from Hissing Demos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 23:23:08 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Lost and found Vince reads these exchanges and asks: ¿snake room? RMuRocks@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/6/99 7:59:59 PM US Central Standard Time, Ashara@aol.com > writes: > > << If you are the proud owner of any of these things, just let me know, > and I will send them to you. > > << Item: White Hanes briefs, size 36. Where Found: snake room >> > > Not me, I'm a 32... > I am proud to still be a 30-31 waist... > PS: Ashara, you are one of the most beautiful greatest peoples I have ever > known... > And even those of us who missed the Joni fest know this of Ashara... keep posting pictures and stories, I have already started saving money for next year. (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 01:16:12 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: Lost and found /Gallery NJC I've just looked at the gallery pics at : http://www.jmdl.com/gallery/jfne9909.htm and I've noticed that my knees are so much BIGGER than Anne's head!!! Talk about pachyderm stuff... Mark: Confess! The briefs belong to you! The capo is mine, but I would like so much for it to remain there, if you don't mind Ashara. I'm sure it's a sign that I'll return to New England someday. Report and feedback on other people's reports still in the making but coming soon. Now I have to go to bed, where I intend to catch at least six hours' sleep for the first time in a WEEK!!!!!!!! Wally\K, back in wintry Buenos Aires, where it's foggy and steam comes out your mouth when you speak in the street. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 22:24:28 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Ashara Never Lies Joniphiles - Damn. That was a great time. Putting it into words is like trying to write a new verse to "Amelia". Mark mentioned the event as being like a family reunion - truly it was. From the moment I arrived I felt at home. There I was sitting in a chair on a beautiful Massachusetts day, listening to great music, talking with great friends, and looking up at the huge JMDL sign hanging from Ashara's house. I remembered sitting alone thinking to myself long ago "what am I going to call this list?" - and here it was now plastered on the side of a beautiful house 1500 miles and three years away from that day. Who could have ever dreamed that the JMDL would evolve into such a great community of people who actually get together in person and celebrate a common passion? Not me. I must admit, at that moment I felt quite proud of what has become of my small little dream. It has surpassed all expectations. Ashara: Thanks for your generous, kind spirit and your true sense of community. Everyone else: Thanks for your friendship and for making the JMDL that best damn list on the internet. Les NP: The JoniFest Tapes... soon to be in circulation. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 10:00:57 -0400 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Friends of Spirit 3 "I met a friend of spirit. We drank and philosophized. And I sat before his sanity, I was holding back from crying. He saw my complications and he mirrored me back simplified..... and we laughed." Les, Laura and Mark. Mark, Laura and Les. Laura, Mark and Les. I tell ya, Uma/Oprah was a lot simpler...... I met some longtime jmdl pen pals for the first time Saturday. I'll start with Les because well, Les is more---more or less. Confession: For some time after joining the jmdl in 1996 I thought Les Irwin, the jmdl listowner, was a girl just because of his name. Leslie Irwin. Call me provincial. I was raised in a small traditional American town and if we called someone "Les" or "Adrian" or "Renee" they probably wore dresses to Mass. Eventually photographs went up on the jmdl web site and I saw that she was a he. I couldn't help but like the humble guy who owns the jmdl, even though he and I have had our share of disagreements over the years, and ok sometimes I have a weakness for seeing things only my way. And yet I was always sensitive to the fact that he had a tough job trying to keep things fair and balanced on the list. He's always been polite and kind towards me. But that's not so much why I discovered why I like him so much this past Saturday. He cracks me up. His humor is as dry as one those Martini's I had just the other night. My favorite times with him online had been bantering with him on ICQ. He has a way of making me giggle like I'm in high school again---like he's one of those boys who used to give me a hard time: I can't quite tell when he's being serious or not. It's fun. In person, the first thing I noticed was how solid and grounded he appears. In his private, soft-spoken kind of way, he's well-mannered and clever, quick wittted, and will talk about himself if you can draw him out a bit. He's got that midwestern charm combined with that inscrutable-David Lettermanish appeal which we gals all love. And he played the guitar (really well) after I asked him to even though it was, like, 4:30 in the morning. The first thing you notice about Mark of Mark/Travis is his eyes. They are beautiful. He looks like a younger, hippy-ish Sean Connery, Ok? I've known Mark for as long as I've known Les. He has always struck me, no matter what storms were brewing, as the most thoughtful, considerate person on the list. But still, that's not why I like him so much: he likes movies as much as I do and we dished about movies for years. But what's even better is what I discovered at Ashara's is that he has almost perfect recall for Joni's melodies/lyrics in every song that we sang at the piano that Paz and then Roberto played. He can really sing well and he is funny too. He looked like such a pseudo-rastafarian surfer dude while wearing Joni's blonde fall during the Trivia Game. It felt good to check up on him by asking him if he had breakfest yet on Sunday morning and then helping him find a cereal bowl in Ashara's kitchen. It's funny meeting people who you formerly new only as cyber penpals ---and then, 'budda bing budda boom' you find yourself co-habitating with all of them at a weekend music retreat. Two days before you didn't know what they looked like---and then today you're telling them that they have sleepy seeds lodged in the corner of their left eye. It's wierd and wonderful too. Then there is Laura Mann from Chicago---after all of this time I have never met her until this weekend. She is the possessor of the best sense of humor of any woman on this list---she laughs at my stupid comments. (Laura saved me by laughing first as I humiliated myself at Jonifest by placing joni's blonde fall up my armpit instead of my head just to be different.) She is the only daughter of a commedienne that I have ever known...she is a domestic goddess, coupon queen and mother of a boy----We understand each other. I say "pokemon" "nintendo" and "dirt" and she knows exactly what I am talking about, and she's the only Jewish person I have ever had the pleasure of giving ongoing Yiddish lessons to which may prove to be pretty interesting given that I'm not Jewish and only a mere graduate of the "Linda Richmond School Of VaKlemptness." Somebody is gotta do it and Im proud to take on the job. Word for the day, Laura: schvitz: to sveat. As in, "It's so humid today that Im schvitzing." Way back when on the list--Laura wrote me privately expressing her support after reading a post of mine where I expressed some thoughts on mothering toddler twin boys. Somehow she was sensitive enough to read between the lines...she could tell that I was struggling in some way when I posted to the jmdl that 1. I thought Mr.Rogers could be sexy if I thought about it long enough, and 2. that I saw Barney as one of life's many metaphors. Thank you Laura for your sensitive and gentle urging for me to get out a little more often. (Thank god for my female pals at jmdlefest...that's all I've gotta say. We need each. Terry, Jodi, Catgirl---you sing suprememly and your so cool-looking, Marian, Gina,Katie, Heather Anne Kakki, Pearl, MG, PennyZaPuppy, Mag and Ashara, the most amazing woman I have ever met in years---an inspiration to us all...and she even has four boys. Did anyone mention Ashara's Bungee Jumping video? It makes the Blair Witch project seem lame. Im too tired to write anymore, but if I could Id spend hours describing how good it was to spend time with my jmdle sistahs. Who better to get down and jazzy with to the tune of "Harry's House?" And I have to admit that hearing any guy sing "I Am a Woman of Heart and Mind" makes me what to slap him across the face, while warning him to snap out of it and to start acting like a man goddamnit.) You see, WallyK, I have a little bit of a Lucy complex...as in "Lucy" from Charlie Brown, the older sister from hell who thinks she knows best...and doesn't mind suggesting what's best for a person. It was great meeting the fit and trim Bob from the Carolinas, (a career awaits you as an emcee, bud,) and Jeff from Sharon via NY and that restauranteer from Cleveland. John from Holland, I like puppies too. Roberto your the epitome of charming gentility and soft-spoken sweetness. I wanted to hear more of your piano playing...Loved "Two Grey Rooms." Brian who's jokes are really not so gross---thanks for not staying mad at me, Patrick, ChuckE alias Sweet Baby James (thanks for joining me at Fiddle and the Drum,) Kenny---loved that wolf story and Michael---you are an amazing person---I love your voice, Hejira, and being able to play like every song known to man, Ric and Bryan---I can't get enough of you guys. I just know I missed somebody. Pearl your husband is a mensch...hear that Laura? Terry, I was pleased to discover how fun your Jerry can be...plus it was nice to get a little free orthopedic advice thrown in----my knee, my knee! He likes movies and Albert Brooks too, although "Muse" sucks. Finally I can't close without mentioning my few moments of bonding time with Pippen, Ashara's german shepherd who, by god, had his own agenda this weekend. Here is a dog who knows who he is and didn't give a rats ass about manners or catering to we jmdlers---afterall he is a german shepherd. Aren't those police dogs or something? He was determined to keep his "place" and routine, ignoring that his home was invaded by 40 or more pesky guests. During the height of the party, he consistently chose to fall asleep in the middle of a major entree way (the hub in the kitchen that leads to the family room,) only to have a number of people accidentally trip over him almost accidentally killing themselves. It didn't affect him at all. Never once did he stir while snoozing and being tripped over. You've gotta respect that kind of focus in an animal. He was napping, that's it.... An hour before I left to go to the airport, I brought a blanket outside to catch a nap under one of Ashara's pine trees. I was touched as Pippen came over and cuddled up to me. He allowed me to prop my feet on his tush. We both fell off to sleep. I don't know if you might think so, but **I think** that I got lucky this weekend. Thanks Ashara, so much. Julie Z. Webb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:43:09 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Jonifest To all the Jonifesters OK, I'm feeling incredibly jealous, and pretty damn pissed off that I couldn't go - what better reason could I have for travelling half-way around the world?! I did think of you guys several times over the weekend, and it sounds like everyone had a great time. I even comtemplated phoning at some ungodly hour on Saturday night (after far too many beers) but decided against it (a) because I didn't have a number to ring, (b) the time difference would have meant either I'd be half-asleep, or you guys would be, and (c) it would have cost me a small fortune, because I wouldn't have wanted to hang up! I have one request, though - how about a legend for the group photos, so we can see who's who? Sorry for those that want to retain their anonymity, but I want to put names to faces! Helen NP - Starland Vocal Band - sorry but I LIKE it! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 23:47:42 +0000 From: Kate Tarasenko Subject: JC: Party Report Man, I LOVED your party-posts the best!!! How exciting to read about it! After having had the magical experience of a Joni-fest myself, I recognized so many feelings and observations that you conveyed! Thanks so much -- keep writing as the memories inspire you! Kate in CO Happy Labor Day! Famous lyrics in labor music history: "I don't how-ta pick no cotton. I'm so glad I don't how-ta pull no corn." -- Lightnin' Hopkins "I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more No, I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more Well, I wake up in the mornin,' fold my hands and pray for rain I've got a head full of ideas and they're drivin' me insane It's a shame the way she makes me scrub the floor Oh, I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more." -- Bob Dylan WP: NPR's "American Roots" NP: Bob Dylan, "Foot of Pride" (from the Bootleg Series, Vols. 1-3, '61-'91, with a version of "Tangled Up In Blue" that you wouldn't fucking believe...!) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #387 ************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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