From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #386 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Monday, September 6 1999 Volume 04 : Number 386 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Starland Vocal (NJC) ["Helen M. Adcock" ] joni inspired sunflowers [KCooper984@aol.com] Re: joni inspired sunflowers [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Cruelty Towards Others [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: joni inspired sunflowers [RMuRocks@aol.com] Re: joni inspired sunflowers [Mark Domyancich ] Re: ashara's bash and teary joni moment (sjc) [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Party Report... [RMuRocks@aol.com] Hejiring to Ashara's/Part 1 ["Julie Z. Webb" ] The Return of Party Report [RMuRocks@aol.com] Re: ashara's bash and teary joni moment (sjc) ["Mark or Travis" ] Party Report Strikes Back (#4 in a series - collect 'em all!) [RMuRocks@a] Re: ashara's bash and teary joni moment (sjc) [Heather Galli ] Joni Fest whooo-Hoooo! [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Joni on ONELIST.COM [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: Joni Fest whooo-Hoooo! [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: Joni on ONELIST.COM [raven@igc.org] Kevin back from the Greek Islands NJC [Bounced Message ] teary moments / JMDL encouragement!! (NJC) ["Takats, Angela" ] Re: Joni on ONELIST.COM [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Heart,Humor&Humility 2 ["Julie Z. Webb" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:05:36 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Starland Vocal (NJC) Joseph wrote (re: Starland Vocal Band)" >Isn't this the group who sang "Afternoon Delight"? I kinda liked that >song especially when it was used as a closing credit to GOOD WILL HUNTING. >And they won the Best New Artist in the Grammys, too. Yes, Starland Vocal Band did sing "Afternoon Delight" but their debut album had a lot of great (better) tracks (IMHO)! They seemed to have been labelled by "Afternoon Delight" as a sugary, pop group, but you should hear their version of Paul Simon's "American Tune" sung a cappella (sp?) in four part harmony - it just blows me away. There are some other good songs on the album "Ain't It The Fall", "Boulder To Birmingham", and "Starland". I love good harmony, and these guys are very good at it! I've kept an eye-out over the years for other albums, but haven't seen any - but this is NZ, after all! Helen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 08:19:44 EDT From: KCooper984@aol.com Subject: joni inspired sunflowers Hi All! I made a quick webpage on aol so you can see my sunflower painting. Hope you like it! Sue My Art Gallery ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 11:36:28 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: joni inspired sunflowers Sue, thank you for the sunflowers! You spoke of crazy things Joni inspires us to do - I moved this weekend (and that is a major reason I have not at Jonifest) and I made a special point of moving all my Joni c.d.'s, and my JMDLer Louis Lynch c.d, in a trip prior to moving any of the others. KCooper984@aol.com wrote: > I made a quick webpage on aol so you can see my sunflower painting. Hope you > like it! > > Sue > > "http://hometown.aol.com/kcooper984/myhomepage/artgallery.html" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:50:40 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Cruelty Towards Others In a message dated 9/3/1999 9:54:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Siresorrow writes: << i saw alanis in columbia sc a few years ago. she had really great energy and was fun to watch. she had only come out with pill at that point so the set list was a little limited. but the way i would phrase the difference you sight between her and joni is that alanis' music does not have the longevity and sustenance of joni's. i have not listened to jlp for at least a year. i don't think I could listen to jlp for years and years. conversly, i may put blue in my cd player at work and listen to it every day for months on end, year after year after year. joni's music continues to evolve and make the listening experience new each time its heard. it goes with real time and grows as we do. and i do think that makes her music unique and rare.ss. >> So beautifully spoken! That is my point. Joni will last beyond our lives but many others just fade away in the first year or so. I guess you can say Joni is eternal! Catgirl just getting back from a great weekend at Asharas with the gang! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:52:19 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Re: joni inspired sunflowers In a message dated 9/6/99 6:22:46 AM US Central Standard Time, KCooper984@aol.com writes: << Hope you like it! >> Wow Susan...very nice - and very Joni-esque! Thanks for sharing it with us. If someone had told me it was one of Joni's, I would have believed it! Bob, warming up his fingers for his party report... NP: Joni & The Band @ The Last Waltz, "Shadows & Light" (interesting to hear this song with full band accompaniment...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:00:54 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: joni inspired sunflowers Awesome painting, Sue! Very nice! Mark NP-Pork Pie Hat KCooper984@aol.com wrote: > > I made a quick webpage on aol so you can see my sunflower >painting. Hope you > > like it! ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:14:46 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: ashara's bash and teary joni moment (sjc) In a message dated 9/4/1999 10:25:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ATAKATS@ninenet.com.au writes: << Thought I'd share a little moment in the meantime: I've been having a tough time lately...having to make big career decisions etc. To cut a long story short, I decided to take on a new job and had to face my current boss to tell him the news...he spent nearly 20 minutes telling me I'd made the wrong decision and that it would wreck both my career and life...ANYWAY...I left the office in tears, sobbing uncontrollably - but had to go to the shops to buy lunch .... trying to fight back the tears I walked thru the aisles and then....what comes on the radio? JM - "Free Man In Paris"...now joni NEVER comes on the radio down here, especially not on a station that supermarkets play...I just stopped, stood there and totally lost the plot....it was all tears and all joni and everyone/everything else disappeared. It was upsetting, but comforting at the same time...I can't really explain it very well. It was such a spiritual experience. I think God and Joni were trying to tell me everything was going to be okay......... Ange Sydney >> Great story! That happens to me quite often ( the Joni part) so I hear ya! and....now I kknow what you look like since I say your video spot at Asharas. You certianly have BLACK hair so in order to do the Joni look a like you definately need a wig! Ashara had 2 and alot of people put them on so I have tons of Joni doubles pictures to share with the list! Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:42:53 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Party Report... Hey everybody, Well, I'm still kind of plane-lagged and groggy, but I'll take a first pass at doing some reporting on the phenomenal Jonifest weekend at Ashara's: I arrived at The Ashara Mansion around 10 Friday night. I rode from the airport with Mark from Seattle, so it was nice to ease into the "meet" process with just one other person. btw, thanks Ashara for setting up Jim as a driver - the last thing I would have wanted to do after getting in was hassling with getting a car, navigating, etc. Plus, the driver was a radio program director who's met Joni previously, so he was certainly qualified to be our driver! :~) Anyway, it's really a weird moment when you first make an appearance to fellow JMDLer's, because there's this shared "Who are you?" moment, which can be overwhelming when you're scanning a room with a dozen folks. But that soon dissipates and you become absorbed into the atmosphere and the warmth around you. And then the music flows, the conversation flows, smiles and hugs and laughter, and beverages flow too...:~) Of course, in the midst of everything is the Earth Mama Ashara reminding you about Jonifest 101; "Bottles and cans here, paper goes here, only one cup per person, write your name on it, no shoes in this room, don't let the cat out, DO let the dog out..." And then comes another phenomenon; actually TALKING to these amazing people, not burdened by differences in time zones, work schedules, outside disturbances, etc. And not having to say "NJC" before a comment if it's not Joni-related...:~) Another SCARY phenom about these get-togethers is that while you wish time would stand still, it doesn't...it's 2:00 or 3:30 or some ungodly hour and you're not tired at all and you hate to part company with the kindred spirits you've found...but Friday night things finally shut down around 2 or so (for me anyway) after great conversation, some great playing (Watching the incredible Marian Russell effortlessly play "Wolf That Lives in Lindsay" has to be seen to be believed), and the overall feeling that you have discovered a place where you really "fit". Saturday morning comes, and for me anyway, I want to rise asap to rejoin the company of JMDLer's. Maggie the high priestess of food has fresh fruit cut, coffee brewed, Bern has made a bagel run, some folks are up, some are still feeling the effects of jet lag...As the morning progresses, folks awaken or come in from their hotels, and new people start to stream in! It's just TOO COOL! It's what life should be like all the time... So after some breakfast and morning pleasantries, there is work to be done. Michael Paz has brought 20 lbs. of shrimp with heads and shells and yucky orange fat needing to be prepared, so Michael, Marian, Mark and me (the 4 M's :~D) get to work peeling, cutting and prepping these critters. I was beginning to wonder if eating these guys was going to be worth the work. I found out later...IT WAS! Well, I'm going to send this and continue on with part 2... NP: Joni & Johnny Cash, "The Gallery" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 22:36:45 -0400 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Hejiring to Ashara's/Part 1 How does "Hejiring to Ashara's" sound? [I feel inspired to write about Ashara's party, but I'm too busy, (kids start school tommorrow,) and much too lazy to edit or rewrite the following...For starters, I don't think my Eudora has ever had spell-check and alotta you know about me being grammatically-challenged--- [grammar/schrammer]--- so let me further caution you: be prepared to be showered with ellipisisses and dashes etc. And some of you will probably hate the way Im going to play around with Siquomb's "Hejira" lyrics. Maybe I should stop now....(My title, "Hejiring to Ashara's" could use some more thought...but if I obsess too much---I'll just bag the whole thing---) (silence) Oh no, then you'd never really know about my, Julie Z. Webb, Don Juan's Fertile Daughter's,impression of Boston's Jonifest 99 at Ashara's...How cruel it would be for me to be the cause of such deprivation. Sigh... ok you've convinced me, I'll write some more--- well maybe a little more.) "Hejiring to Ashara's" My last six months haven't been too much fun. If I wrote about it or discussed it, someone's bound to think, "Julie has a widdle paper cut,"..."pity;" so just let's just say for now---- I longed to get away this weekend---[yea right...as if---like...Im actually thinking that I can try and NOT explain what I'm feeling about myself for once IN MY LIFE .] JM does say it best for so many of us: "there's no comprehending just how close to the bone and the skin and the eyes and the lips you can get and still feel so alone and still feel related"...AND "that it's not easy whether you do or you do not resign... whether you travel the breadth of extremities or stick to some straighter line." BECAUSE sometimes life seems like you're "sitting on a rock---not knowing whether you're gonna thaw out or freeze." I HAD hemmed and hawed. I didn't know if I should go to Ashara's or not. A lot going on at home: kids starting new schools Tuesday. I was ambivalent ("the road leads cursed and charmed.") Still, remembering last year at Ashara's, I longed to hear the strains of Marian's "Cotton Avenue" or Michael Paz's "Hejira" coming thru Ashara's pinewood trees. So I decided to go because I thought that this might be a good way to hide the hurt, or forget about it at least. [Stealing from Joni is tempting don't we know, as in "Everything For Nothing."] Once on the plane, I was feeling so glad to be on my own, and then looking down on everything I crashed into (lots of) arms...(somehow the slightest touch of a stranger can set up trembling in my bones.) [I'm feeling a little embarassed by the "lots of arms" line, but maybe it sorta works for some of you...] This weekend--- I WAS actually porous with travel fever, (Went to bed at midnight on Friday feeling too excited about the upcoming Jonifest to sleep very well and got up 4 AM on Saturday morning to get ready for my cab ride to the airport at 5AM. ("I took a plane to a taxi and a taxi to a train.") The way I figure it---I only slept 3 strait hours the whole weekend. ("I looked at the morning after being up all night. I looked at my haggard face in the bathroom light.") -----------------------Stay tuned for descriptive observations of those jmdler drifters cast upon this Boston beachtown, [well ok it's sort of close to the beach.] I'll write more later... because I well up with affection thinking back down the roads to then ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:14:51 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: The Return of Party Report So we're getting slimy with the shrimp work, but we're listening to Joni on the P.A. so how could you complain? Chuck is setting up the PA system and the instruments and plugging plugs into instruments and otherwise performing technical wizardry... The day is beautiful! Ashara was worried about weather, but since she IS in charge I'm sure she just called on her cell phone (only SHE knows how it works! :~) ) to mother nature and put in her order. And let me tell you, even if you're Mother Nature, when Ashara speaks, "Yes Ma'am" is the ONLY appropriate answer...(unless you're one of her boys I would guess :~) ) So let's get the show on the road! By now Laura and Jody are here from Chicago (poor Jody hobbling on crutches gets the "overcoming adversity" prize), and Patrick Leader from NY, I'm not going to try and get TOO much into naming names as I don't want to leave anybody out...there was a great variety of people there, from Kakki and Chuck and of course Les who are longtime JMDLer's, to Anne who just joined about a month ago, to Jeff who hasn't joined yet but visited the website and came on down from NY. Look for Jeff to join up soon and be a steady contributor...right Jeff? :~) The musical festivities began with a group performance of "Dreamland" with Marian and Michael Paz playing the riff from the Hissing Demos, and everybody pitching in with Percussion, vocals, and misc. support. Ashara had a huge variety of drums, shakers, etc. set up on stage so that EVERYONE could jump up and participate. (I must admit that some of the instruments were pretty wacky-looking; I thought Ashara had put all of her sex toys out at first :~D) I'm not going to go into too many details of the performances; I would hope each performer would write about their sets...some memorable moments for me: Anne with the cool hair playing an original song which was actually "Chelsea Morning" played backwards. Wally K's acapella performances of "Dry Cleaner" & "Twisted". Wally also plays a mean guitar and gets chutzpah points for following Bryan Thomas's set... Michael Paz's performances of "Chinese Cafe" on keyboard and "Song For Sharon" on the guitar and VG8. His performance of Hejira (even with a missed lyric) made me cry like a baby... Ashara closed her set with a spiritual piece that was very moving John Van Tiel sang a German ballad with Roberto playing great accompinament. John also gets "best imported stuff" prize for the chocolates and Gouda he brought (We export all the shit, he shared - thanks for letting us know THAT, John! :~) ) Sending this, more to come.... NP: Blue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:18:34 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: ashara's bash and teary joni moment (sjc) .... trying to > fight back the tears I walked thru the aisles and then....what comes on the > radio? JM - "Free Man In Paris"...now joni NEVER comes on the radio down > here, especially not on a station that supermarkets play...I just stopped, > stood there and totally lost the plot....it was all tears and all joni and > everyone/everything else disappeared. It was upsetting, but comforting at > the same time...I can't really explain it very well. It was such a spiritual > experience. I think God and Joni were trying to tell me everything was going > to be okay......... Ange, This was definitely a sign. Somebody's trying to tell you something. It was great to see you on video at Ashara's. A great big hello back to John Low! How nice of you to think of me. And to you, Ange & also to Nicholas. Mark in Seattle (back from Jonifest and still digesting the experience - a report is in the works) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:51:29 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Revenge of Party Report So, on with the Fest... The music report continues: I forgot to add, we well-mannered JMDLer's were rowdy enough, even in the middle of the day, to summon Topsfield's finest, not once, but twice. Ashara knows all the police, of course, (and they know her and her powers), so with a simple Samantha twitch of her nose they were gone, and the grumpy music-hating neighbors were turned into toads... Anyway, back to the music - Terry from Detroit was great as she effortlessly moved from piano to guitar and making it look like anybody could just get up and play these joni songs like it was nuthin'...her version of Morning Morgantown was one of the days prettiest and she had some talented back-up singers too... Of course, a report on Jonifest music wouldn't be complete without some praise of Marian's beautiful Joni songs. Marian's playing is so clear and exact, and her voice is so lilting and lovely, it's as if Joni has passed on her ability to another since she couldn't be there. I've already mentioned her "wolf", she also did a great "Crazy Cries" and dedicated it Brian Gross in honor of his tag line - Brian even threw in a "Yeah Right" for us...I know Marian will report back so I'll leave her details to her. In the meantime, I'm bowing down saying "Not Worthy"... We also had TONS of raffle goodies - thanks to all who contributed prizes to give away as well as everyone who contributed to Wally's site. I won a denim shirt, a Day in the Garden video, Beatles symphonic CD's, probably some other stuff I can't remember...please remember, I am still in a euphoric state and my rational mind hasn't fully kicked in yet... We were very fortunate to have the musical genius that is Bryan Thomas there...he treated us to Little Green, BYT, and some original stuff as well. His guitar work brings to mind Tuck Andress of Tuck & Patti and also Prince on his acoustic "Truth" disc. His voice is crystalline and exquisite, and his CD "Radio Plastic Jennifer" is not to be missed...please tour the East Coast Bry! So even after the musical portion "ended", Chuck & Michael (who are such music sluts that I'm not even in their league! :~D) continued to play outdoors and indoors. Katie from the Cape came with some games, and although we couldn't pry some folks away from their conversations a good time was had by all. Kenny Grant was one of the games better players but had a tough time wearing the Joni-wig! :~) Catgirl had a hard time getting all her hair into the Joni-wig... We watched a great video that Philip from Ireland had sent to me...it was pretty much agreed that this wonderful collection was going to be treed to share with whoever wants it...don't know if we can just decide to do that or if Congress has to pass a law or something...anyway, there was great "Pre-Blue" era film from the BBC where she plays dulcimer and sings "All I Want" with alternate lyrics...she was IN THE PROCESS of writing this song when this video was made! The second segment was around '73, some solo stuff and some C&S stuff with Tom Scott & the LA Express. It's good video, but Joni looks so melancholy, we had an interesting "thread" right there about why she seems so weary compared to the '70 piece we just saw. The third segment was "Whistle Test Extra" from the BBC circa 1987 (did I get the year right Mark? :~D) where she's interviewed, there's some cool shots of her painting, some neat videos, and one can easily see how she's under the hypnotic spell of Klein! Right, Patrick??? :~D Anyway, if you're into Joni on film, this video is a must - stay tuned for information on getting yours... Sending this now...back with a wrap up momentarily.... Bob NP: Eastern Rain from Second Fret Sets...wow, this is GREAT quality! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:19:24 -0600 From: Terri Forte Subject: Re: The Return of Party Report Hi. I have loved reading all the party posts. I am originally from Brockton, MA and I wish I could have been there to meet all the faces and voices behind the email addresses (and breathe in the New England air). Maybe next time... Anyway, I am in SLC, UT now, and I am wondering whether any JMDLers live nearby??? We could do a Rocky Mountain Joni fest! Terri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:31:57 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Party Report Strikes Back (#4 in a series - collect 'em all!) So now I feel like Jerry Springer looking out at the audience and saying "So what did we learn today everyone..." It's really tough to put into words the mood, the emotions, the feelings that rush around and through you when you're in the midst of this kind of meeting. The word "family" gets tossed about quite a bit, but like I told Les, it's one degree more than that...family only has in common that they live under the same roof or share a last name or something that really is pretty inconsequential. On the JMDL, we share something that is much more intense - the love of the art, words, and music of one who shows us the potential for the human artistic spirit. Just being together with people who share this spirit is indescribable. Yet we're all different, from those of who are constantly gabbing (like, um...me) to those who are quiet and introspective and listeners, to those who organize, those who sing, play, those who just sit back and enjoy it all...I think it's a little of what heaven must be like in a way, except that there's no clock to be mindful of, no complaining neighbors, no ride back to the airport when you have to say goodbye to these folks that you feel like you've known forever....we are stardust, we are golden, we've got to get ourselves back to the garden that IS Ashara's Jonifest... It was great to meet Penny, Gina, Patrick, Julie, Mark, Bern, Jody, Laura, WallyK, Katie and her husband, Kakki, Michael, Marian, Terry, Kenny, John, Bryan, Ric, Heather, Anne, Jody, Laura, Mary Grace, Roberto It was equally great to re-connect with my pals Pearl and her trooper husband Steve, Brian, and Catgirl. Would love to have you guys come to SC sometime & say hey! You can even wear your shoes in EVERY room in my house! :~) It is necessary to say some thank you's at this juncture...First to Les for creating this community and for all the work he does to perpetuate it - take a bow Les! We love you, Man! Ashara and Maggie, for all the planning,food, executing, food, facilities, food and fun.(Did I mention food?) :~) The truth is, as good as ALL the food was, I was so wrapped up with the fellowship I forgot I was supposed to eat...but I DID! Chuck and Michael Paz and Marian, for your work in making the music as superb as it was... Katie for the games and for my cool eyeball ring; Ashara for the hugs and for sharing your home and for putting the nice labels on everything in your home so we'd know where to get a fork, etc. Michael for the shrimp and for allowing me to caterwaul with you Saturday night. I'm gonna sneak on down to N'awlin's at some point... Thanks to everyone who couldn't be there - not because you weren't there, of course, but because you sent your presence and we could feel you there in spirit. Thanks to everybody else for everything else...it's a weekend I'll treasure the rest of my days, and now we can start the countdown to Jonifest 2000! Only 51 weeks away! Well, that's enough for now, sorry for the 500 things I forgot to say, I'm sure they'll come back to me...or someone else can put them in their report... Bob NP: Just Like Me, from Second Fret Sets ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:38:29 -0500 From: Heather Galli Subject: Re: ashara's bash and teary joni moment (sjc) >ATAKATS@ninenet.com.au writes: > ><< > Thought I'd share a little moment in the meantime: > I've been having a tough time lately...having to make big career decisions > etc. To cut a long story short, I decided to take on a new job and had to > face my current boss to tell him the news...he spent nearly 20 minutes > telling me I'd made the wrong decision and that it would wreck both my > career and life...ANYWAY...I left the office in tears, sobbing > uncontrollably - but had to go to the shops to buy lunch .... trying to > fight back the tears I walked thru the aisles and then....what comes on the > radio? JM - "Free Man In Paris"...now joni NEVER comes on the radio down > here, especially not on a station that supermarkets play...I just stopped, > stood there and totally lost the plot....it was all tears and all joni and > everyone/everything else disappeared. It was upsetting, but comforting at > the same time...I can't really explain it very well. It was such a spiritual > experience. I think God and Joni were trying to tell me everything was going > to be okay......... > > Ange > Sydney >> Ange - Doesn't sound like your boss (ex-boss) was thinking of your needs at all. What a shmuck. Glad your doing what's best for Ange! :-) I've often turn to Joni's music for inspiration and consolation .... so I hear ya. It all comes down to you. A huge cyber hug! Heather ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:40:51 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: Home again NJC The joy of hanging out with you Jonifesters is just as intense as the blues I feel right now for not being there anymore. Wally\K ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:11:16 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Joni Fest whooo-Hoooo! Hello gang, Here is my experience at the Joni Fest..... I left Friday from my home around 3pm. I travelled in some vehicle for over 6 and a half hours to arrive at the lovely Asharas house to be meeted with open arms by the few festers that were staying there for the evening. I forgot my airmattress but fortuntely Ashara and Maggie got me situated anyway with a few mattress pads. (Thanks girls!) Well, after getting situated with everything but the kitchen sink from my home, downstairs I went to be freaked out by Marian who came up with the tuning and chords to DREAMLAND!!! Of course I felt like I was dreaming to be able to finally play that song and sing it. It was TOO cool for words. Michael Paz let me have a turn on his vg8 but I felt more comfortable with my own guitar but it is quite amazing to be able to turn a knob and get a new Joni tuning ~VOILA!~ Well after singing and hanging out till 2 I went to bed but could not sleep because of the excitment of the next day. I finally fell asleep and got up around 10:00 ready to go. The day flew by with tons of goodies to win! I got a t shirt of Squombe isn't she.... and the Joni Discussion List Denim long sleeve shirt.. All I could say was.....WHOOO-HOOO! We had a great Dreamland sing a long that was probably my favorite part of the whole event. We were all up on stage together singing and playing with percussion toys. I felt so at ease and at home with all my friends. Bob did a great gazoo rendition that was on the Hissings Demo Cd that came out. Way to go Bob!!!! Dinner was very yummy with TONS of Chinese food and lots of vegetarian food to boot! Later on we sat around and watched the Joni tape from the BBC that Bob got (Bob to the rescue again!) I must say this tape is near mint condition so I plan on treeing it for CD tree 2 and then as well I will be the one offering this to all who wants in a Video tree to be announced shortly. I need some help with the art work for the cover so anyone with those capabilites please email me privately. I did not go to bed until almost 3:30 but knew I needed sleep so off I went. Morning was just as fun as the night befor. We talked and learned about each other and our different backgrounds. I enjoyed meeting so many people that have the same love of Joni that I do! Next year, I plan on staying a little longer and hang out with Kakki and Michael and Pearl and Marian and all the others at Atty Mays. This year I had to do all the driving that I needed to get home befor the holiday traffic on Monday. My back is killing me from all that sitting with my hands on the steering wheel that next year I will stay longer and bring my bass playing husband along to share the driving duty. Thanks to all and especially Ashara! Now that I know you have a dophin and angel fettish I now know what to bring with me as well next year! Luv to all in Joni Land! Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:20:14 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Joni on ONELIST.COM Hello gang! Les and I were talking and I do beleive we are going to turn my site at onelist into a picture site for those who want to access pics from places all over including the starart book. Feel free to join by clicking on this icon ONElist : Music : Musicians : JoniMitchellfans ******VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!***** When you register they ask you to fill out info about yourself. Whatever you write is available to all on the list which means you can write your job down or not. You CAN leave it blank or you can share info. It is UP TO YOU!!! Don't worry there is little to no mail at present and once Les gets everything situated it will be turned into the list for pics. This way if you ever get mail from this site you will know it is just pics from fellow fans of Joni or Joni related material. Take care and more details will follow! Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:31:28 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Fest whooo-Hoooo! In a message dated 9/6/1999 3:15:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CaTGirl627@aol.com writes: << Later on we sat around and watched the Joni tape from the BBC that Bob got (Bob to the rescue again!) I must say this tape is near mint condition so I plan on treeing it for CD tree 2 and then as well I will be the one offering this to all who wants in a Video tree to be announced shortly. I need some help with the art work for the cover so anyone with those capabilites please email me privately. I just want to add that the reason why I am doing this video tree and not Ashara is becuase I am anal retentive and want to keep it in HI FI format. I have two hi fi VCR's and it will stay in that format. Anyone NOT caring about that I am sure once Ashara's gets her copy she will gladly make yours as well. Depending on how many people want the video we might need to do some altercations anyway unless you don't mind waiting a little to receive your tape. Take care all! Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 12:43:00 -0700 From: raven@igc.org Subject: Re: Joni on ONELIST.COM Catgirl wrote about the ONELIST site: >******VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!***** >When you register they ask you to fill out info about yourself. >Whatever you write is available to all on the list There is an option whereby any ONELIST member can choose to *not* allow their profile to be seen by others, but you must choose to disallow your profile from being seen by others. RAVEN ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 14:21:00 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Kevin back from the Greek Islands NJC From: "Hejira" Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:46:03 +0100 Hi= I'm back and I sure did miss my clean white linen. Just to say I am sorry if I have not responded to requests fror tape or thanked any one who sent me things THANKYOU BOB !!!!! I am going to sign off the list for a while as I have lots of work to do but please email me if I still have to send you anything ect. Love Kevin HEJIRA28@MSN.COM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:47:39 +1000 From: "Takats, Angela" Subject: teary moments / JMDL encouragement!! (NJC) Following my emotional joni-supermarket-tears story, Mark wrote: <> Thanks Mark, and thanks everyone who wrote back with words of comfort and touching joni quotes....it is so nice to know that people who don't even 'know' me, really care and take the time to send encouraging thoughts/words my way.....THANKS HEAPS. May many joni-blessings come your way - if that makes sense? ;-) Ange Feeling not that far away from you all, Across the sea in Sydney. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:51:12 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Family Reunion in Massachusetts Or 'More Members of Lost Tribe Found in Topsfield' - - or 'Still Burning in the Afterglow' which is kind of how I'm feeling today. Tired? You bet. But no regrets for this Coyote. New England Jonifest 99 was a one-of-a-kind experience that has left me with a lingering feeling of good vibes & good will. Heart & humor and all the good things that come from spending time with good people - all of this and more were to be had without even asking at Ashara's. First off I want to thank Bob Muller for his excellent report. It makes it easier for me to arrange my thoughts. It was great to ride in from the airport with Bob. All the humor and intelligence he puts into his posts is there. Music slut or not, he's just an all-round nice guy. I think the list knows me well enough by now to know that if I started off on a moment by moment report I would end up writing the Joni-fest version of 'War and Peace'. So this will be more or less my impressions of the weekend with a few specifics that were personal highlights for me. Looking to the back of Ashara's property in Topsfield you would swear you were on the edge of a state park. You can see the neighbor's houses to the right and left and one or two more houses further away. But looking straight out from Ashara's deck all you see beyond her back yard are trees. We were blessed with sunny weather and the sky provided a roof of intense blue streaked occasionally with thin white clouds. It was a bit too hot & humid for someone who's lived in western Washington state for 21 years but it was *dry* (meaning not raining) and bright. The setting was nearly idyllic for the weekend's festivities. For me, looking up at the blue sky framed by the tops of the trees will be a lasting impression of Jonifest 99 that frames the portraits in my mind of all the wonderful people that were there and serves as a background for the many scenes of camaraderie, music and laughter. The aforementioned deck was transformed by Chuck-the-sound-wizard-Eisenhardt into a stage. Many magical moments unfolded on this stage during the afternoon and evening on Saturday. Someone has already mentioned Marian Russell's rendition of 'The Wolf That Lives in Lindsay'. Marian is amazingly accomplished with the guitar and seems to be able to effortlessly channel Siquomb in some mysterious & mystical way. It was also a thrill to share a mike with Ashara and Patrick as we followed Catgirl's excellent lead on 'Cherokee Louise' and then to share a group hug with Patrick and my wonderful twin sister at the end of the song. Later Ashara favored us with a beautiful song that seemed to come straight from the depths of her soul. It was very powerful and very moving. I have to take a minute to sing the praises of my long lost sister here and now. New England Jonifest begins & ends with Ashara. Her generous spirit, her outgoing, open nature & impeccable organization were the fuel that drove this whole event. She was ably assisted by Maggie, one of the sweetest and warmest people I have ever met. Personally I can't imagine trying to put together something like Jonifest. It was an amazing labor of love and I am eternally grateful to both of these radiant women for creating it for all of us. Another big thank you goes to Chuck E. for all his efforts in setting up the sound system. It was great to hear his 'Rainy Night House' live & in person from the Jonifest stage. Bob gave a good description of what it's like to step into a gathering of JMDLers. At first you're overwhelmed. With some people you can almost guess who they are without ever having even seen a picture of them. With others you don't have a clue who they are but then you hear the name and a switch goes on in your brain and you think 'of course!' Somehow when you meet these people who have shared their thoughts on the list, things suddenly fall into place, like the pieces of a puzzle. You hear them talk, watch them interact and the personality behind the emails becomes clear. I will read what these people post with a new perspective and understanding from now on that will only enrich the experience of being part of this community. There are so many other moments and impressions that are running through my brain right now as I think back on the weekend. I'll try to hit the ones that are the most meaningful for me and then wrap this up. It was great to see Kakki and Michael again. Thank you, Kakki, for encouraging me to join in the singing. It was also great to hear and see Michael playing and singing again. Michael can also play Joni on guitar with amazing skill and he puts his own perspective into the vocals. He's also a damn good improviser on a keyboard using nothing more than chord notations in his songbooks to play entire songs. We had some great sing-a-longs at the piano in Ashara's indoor 'studio'. Oh and Michael, the shrimp truly were awesome! Thanks for bringing them and cooking them for us. Jody in Chicago was hobbling around on crutches all weekend due to a sprained ankle. In spite of that I don't think the smile ever left her face. The two of us were busy snapping digital pics all day Saturday. She just sent me one of yours truly. I have one of you, Jody, but your eyes are closed. Let me know if you want me to send it along. It was a pleasure meeting you and fellow Chicago lister, Laura Mann. Keep clipping those coupons, Laura! Julie Webb has been one of my favorite people on the JMDL ever since she made her spectacular appearance. I was sad when she took a sabbatical from the list. I'm so glad you're back, Julie, and I'm so glad we finally got to meet. Julie is funny & warm and as wonderful as you would expect her to be. I signed 'Good Friends' in your Poems & Lyrics book, Julie. If 'Stay in Touch' were in there, I think I might have picked that one. Roberto is another very accomplished musician in the lineup of talented people who were in attendance. Roberto is able to play most anything by ear, it seems, and play it beautifully. Singing with Julie while Roberto played was another highlight for me. Thank you for playing 'Stormy Weather', Roberto and for not wincing at my vocal performance of it. We had to fly to the other side of the continent but we finally met and I'm so glad we did. I will get to the opera again one of these days, I promise. And please come down from Victoria soon. Wally Kairuz gets the award for chutzpah and most passionate performances. Wally is another accomplished guitarist and pianist and his a cappella versions of 'Twisted', 'Dry Cleaner From Des Moines' and 'The Last Time I Saw Richard' were unforgettable. I feel very fortunate to have experienced Bryan Thomas's wonderful reinventions of Joni Mitchell songs. After hearing all the praise of his rendition of 'Little Green' from last year's fest, it was especially thrilling to hear him do it this year. His original composition 'Mama' is an absolute hoot! Keep at it, Bryan. You've got what it takes to make it, imo. Mary Grace have you forgiven me for not going to Atty May's yet? This is another lister who is just as bright & funny as her posts. MG! Get your butt up here to Seattle sometime soon, ok? Gina, send me your snail mail address! I'll tape the CJ's cd for you. I wish we'd gotten to talk more. It was wonderful to meet you. Patrick if I ever get to New York I want to spend some time with you. And that goes for you too, Kenny Grant. I wish we had had more time to sit and chew the fat. The weekend was really too short. Les, as always, thank you for setting this whole phenomenon in motion. It was an honor & a pleasure to meet you. Heather keep those posts coming in. You always make me smile and often make me laugh. How good it was to see you in person! I really enjoyed talking with you, Penny. Since we're in the same state I think we could probably manage a get together somewhere down the road (I-5, that is) don't you? Katie, Joni Trifecta was a hoot! Catgirl, how much will you take to destroy any evidence of me in that wig? I loved meeting you and hearing you sing & play. Terry, where was Dr. Sigmondegreen? I saw that he signed the banner but never saw him. You are quite a versatile musician and I enjoyed your performances on guitar, keyboards & drums. You're great! I'm so glad you decided to be at Jonifest 99. It was great to see new listers Anne & Jeff and to meet Bern. Thanks to Jon Van Tiel for the chocolates & cheese and the two beautiful songs. Pearl, it was great to see you and Steve. Ric, I'm so glad you were able to join us. Don't forget, we're always here for you. I'm scared to death that I've left somebody out here. If I did it's not intentional. I was very nervous about flying across the country to meet a lot of people I had never seen before. What I discovered is that you are all so warm and down to earth that there was no reason to be anxious at all. I agree, Bob, that the feeling is more than that of a family connection. But for me the family analogy works in describing the common thread that binds us all together. I have cousins that I haven't seen since I was a teenager. One of them was up here on business last year. We grew up together and in spite of the intervening years and the differences in our lives, we were still able to connect because of our shared experiences and to gain a different perspective from one another of the family. In a lot of ways, that is what I feel about Jonifest 99. Even though I had never met most of you it was like a reunion. Once again, I seem to have found more members of my tribe. Thank you again and a big hug to Ashara! And one to Maggie and to all of you who were there! It is an experience I will treasure always and never forget. I hope we can do it again! Mark in Seattle (so much for trying to keep it brief) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:02:26 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Fw: Family Reunion in Massachusetts > I'm scared to death that I've left somebody out here. If I did it's > not intentional. Well I know of at least one person I missed. How could I forget Brian Gross? Thanks for encouraging me to rise from the dead on Sunday, Brian, so I could say goodbye to everybody. I'm afraid I consumed more in the way of alcoholic beverages than I'm used to on Saturday night and then didn't get to bed till sometime after 4 am. It was a pleasure to meet you and sign your book. And thanks for the scoop on your email sig-line. Those paper-thin hotel room walls can make for awkward moments, can't they? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 23:17:33 +0100 From: catman Subject: Oh my! NJC Whilst you lot were enjoying the party I was receiving mail like this! (I have met her twice in person and now have to think of a reason not to again. I know her husband too!) Perhaps one of guys would like to write to her instead? She is into Fairport Convention and music festivals and men. Dear Colin Sorry to be such a pratt - I omitted double c from your email address. Hope you eventually got original. Anyway, many thanks for your call this morning, it did me a power of good. I'm still conceited enough to think I could make you get a hard on when I've got my silk stockings on, any time you are willing to give it a try just let me know! Talk to you soon Love you lots Susie XXXXX ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:48:01 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni on ONELIST.COM In a message dated 9/6/1999 3:44:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, raven@igc.org writes: << Catgirl wrote about the ONELIST site: >******VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!***** >When you register they ask you to fill out info about yourself. >Whatever you write is available to all on the list There is an option whereby any ONELIST member can choose to *not* allow their profile to be seen by others, but you must choose to disallow your profile from being seen by others. RAVEN >> Thanks for sharing this info. Now, if anyone wants to sign up you know where to go and what to do! Catgirl ...untill you get there your self you never really know...... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 05:00:45 -0400 From: "Julie Z. Webb" Subject: Heart,Humor&Humility 2 "...And We Got Drunk On Alcohol" or "Kakki's Martini Recipe Kicks Ass," or "Martini's Are Really the Strongest Poison and Medicine Of All" My experience on the jmdl hasn't always been pleasant. Sometimes it's a place where some have found their paradise and other's just come to harm---I think it's partly because there is so much that can not really be expressed online. Prior to actually meeting people face to face, the internet discussion list experience can **sometimes** seem like America and Russia--politically many years ago that is---- where we're always keeping score. We keep balancing the power and at times there have been more than one cold war. A Jonifest, if you well, is like a neutral cafe. It becomes a defector from the petty wars---there's a lot more heart, humor and humility. Maybe the reason for this is because face to face contact has a way of helping people see a little of themselves in everyone. On second thought, forget about all of this Joni-psychobabble.... maybe it all boils down to Kakki's martinis... Or Paz's Luzianna/Cajun shrimp or Maggie's scrumptious fixins' or Ashara's homeade granola and comfy home, and lets not forget Marian's Vienese chocolates. For me, it all comes down to you...I love being a part of the celebration of Joni's music with people, who for whatever reason, love her music as much as I do. Besides meeting jmdlers and spending time with them, listening to various jmdlers performances as they gave their interpretation of Joni's music tops my list of the evenings highlights. I've been following the list this afternoon, btw, and the jmdler-performers I am choosing to write about are the people who immediately surface as I type. In the past I have written about my affection for the performances of Ashara, Terry, Paz, Marian, ChuckE, Pearl---we did not hear enough of you this weekend as far as I am concerned. Please know that this is not to take away from anyone else who might have played and sang, so don't feel slighted, plus there were some new people up on the stage who's name escapes me...blame it on the martinis... First of all Bryan Thomas proves again this year that he's gonna go far, but this time around he's got a unique, catchy slam-dunk commercial hit on his hands. His "I Like Your Mama" song won us all over again..especially we fleshier mama's . If I were his agent, Id get him booked as the musical act on Saturday Night Live for SNL's Mother's Day show. When the song was over, I began thinking of the song in reverse: John Lennon vs. Julian Lennon, Burt Lancaster vs. Michael Douglas, JFK vs John Jr, Lloyd Bridges vs Beau Bridges, George Bush vs. George W Jr. John Gotti vs .... you get the picture. People are going to love this hit not just because the song cooks but because of the comedic discussion that it's going to inspire especially with we "Peter Pan" boomers--not a bad market to capture. I think "I Like Your Mama" may very well may become "A Boy Named Sue" kind of hit....(not that commercial success is in anyway important or relevant, mind you.) I couldn't wait to meet Wally, not Wally Breeze...but Argentina's Wally Kairuz, the longtime jmdl poster. For me, there's nothing more exciting than meeting someone who has often posted throughout the years... espeically if their posts or email consistently holds my attention, (for whatever reason,) Especially if it's someone who's posts have been revealing, heated, funny, interesting, provocative or sometimes controversial and/or passionate....Even better if I've been challenged in whatever way by that person. Sorry, but when I meet a lurker it's not the same. I don't know you from Adam. But people I hadn't met prior to Ashara's---like Wally, Mark/Travis, Laura, Roberto, Les or Bob Muller---it is their lives that I have been following for years. (For those who came to Ashara's but are new to the jmdl, please understand that I stopped following the list a half a year ago, so I just don't know you enough, much to my chagrin, in order to get a point of reference to write about you.) Look, I find this so intriguing that I'd probably find funding to fly to Iceland to meet Harpua and Simon. Wally Kairuz is an adorable man who I can't help but love because I think he is the first adult I have ever met who has managed to hold onto what our young children lose too fast these days--- an unhibited, un-self-conscious, completely genuine kind of honesty. He's the brother I wish I had. I looked into his eyes and I felt like I have always known him. Wally had a magical moment on stage---it's what directors like Bergman must live for. It was one of those rare moments in my life when the world seems to suddenly stop spinning for a half a minute because, well, it too--- along with everyone else, just had stop to take note. I don't know that Wally is up there in the same musical ranks as Bryan or Robero or Chuck, but Wally gave us Joni-- Wally's way--- in a completely unhibitied rendition that came from so far deep inside him that it took my breath away...maybe because his improvisational grace was so beautiful and raw and true. During "Edith and The Kingpin" he gave it to us poetically and then somehow his acapello voice spiraled into a gentle desperate falsetto that conveyed the pain of Edith's plight. His voice echoed up through the tall shadows of the trees slowly vanishing into the blackness of the night air. I guarantee you that before this moment, no one had ever felt--the depth and despair and utter sadness of the song "Edith and the Kingpin" . Somehow he brought us back from the blackness when he began boogying to pick up the bounce as he cut into "Twisted" and he carried us with him to the end. More later...... ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #386 ************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?