From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #384 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Sunday, September 5 1999 Volume 04 : Number 384 The Laborday JoniFest is happening this fall! For information: send a message to Join the mailing list at: ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Ashara's ["Jennifer L. Nodine" ] MoonLighting (NJC) [Ken Corral ] JoniFest '99 Pictures [Ashara@aol.com] Re: Oz speak/Canuck talk NJC ["Catherine McKay" ] Re: Keith and Mick sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G (njc) ["Catherine McKa] Re: Keith and Mick sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G (njc) ["Catherine McKa] Re: NJC Dr. Seuss (long) ["Catherine McKay" ] Re: Canadian Joke (NJC) ["Catherine McKay" ] Canadiens - NJC ["Catherine McKay" ] Re: JoniFest '99 Pictures ["Lisa Peakes" ] The LA Express [Mark Domyancich ] Re: LA Express [GREYC1@aol.com] ashara's bash and teary joni moment (sjc) ["Takats, Angela" Subject: Ashara's I hope that all enjoy Jonifest at Ashara's today. I'll be with you in spirit! "While the branches sang the chorus, and he climbed the scaly towers of the forestry..." and she's off somewhere...being a mommy. :.( I hope to meet you all at the next get-together. - -Jenny CT ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 06:44:49 -0700 From: Ken Corral Subject: MoonLighting (NJC) I went to the movies last night and one of the MANY trailers shown before the featured attraction was one for director Allison Anders new film SUGAR TOWN....and.....Larry Klein is in it. Looks like Larry has himself a little acting career going on the side in Allison Anders films (he was also in Grace of My Heart). Some others in the cast are Rosanna Arquette, Beverly D'angelo, Alley Sheedy, John Doe and John Taylor. Whereas Grace of my Heart was about the music biz in the 60's and 70's, this one is about the music biz in the 90's and although funny, sounds like the film takes a pretty dim view. Here is a link to a positive review. http://www.bostonphoenix.com:80/archive/movies/99/04/08/SUGAR_TOWN.html Hope everyone is having fun at Ashara's. Take care Ken C- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:07:43 EDT From: Ashara@aol.com Subject: JoniFest '99 Pictures Hi Joniphiles - This is Les writing from JoniFest on Ashara's computer. Having a great time! Why aren't you here? Check out pictures of the event on-line as we get them: http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest Catgirl's coming up on stage... gotta go.. Les ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 17:53:18 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: Oz speak/Canuck talk NJC Sorry for taking so long to respond. I've been on vacation, don't have access to a computer at home (yes, I confess, I steal "company" time to do this, but we all need diversions and I really believe we all need this at work - we need the redundancy, that is, of sitting there doing nothing (or nothing work-related) for a while in order to function well as cogs in the corporate wheel. It works for me.) I honestly don't know where the phrase "hoser" comes from. i thought Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas might have made it up. I'm pretty sure they're the first ones I actually heard using that term, but then I met a few other people who had used it at university and so on. One of these people came from Sudbury (northern Ontario), so it may be a phrase localized to Ontario only (?) The people I knew who used this expression usually meant it to refer to people who were moochers - the kind of person who shows up at the pub where his friends are, for example, then starts cadging cigarettes off everyone, gets free beer when someone buys a round, then conveniently leaves after having a few brewskis, without ever having paid for one himself - so in that case, a "hoser" is luck a "sponger", or whatever, hosing off someone else. Also referred to sometimes as hoseheads. >From: Siresorrow@aol.com >To: cateri@hotmail.com, ATAKATS@ninenet.com.au >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Oz speak/Canuck talk NJC >Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:33:58 EDT > >this was a very cool post and it reminds me of the christmas song that the >two hosers do. > >so, where does the phrase 'hosers' actually originate? what kind of hoses? >fire hoses? ss cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:01:48 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: Keith and Mick sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G (njc) Semi-French-kissing. Probably involves the public showing of tongues but no actual contact. For two guys as ugly as Keith and Mick, the very idea makes my flesh crawl. >From: AzeemAK@aol.com >To: cateri@hotmail.com, Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Keith and Mick sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G (njc) >Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:12:09 EDT > >In a message dated 28/08/99 21:58:19 GMT Daylight Time, cateri@hotmail.com >writes: > ><< >4. Keith Richards semi-french-kissing with Mick during "Shattered" >(Ithink) > > All I can say to that is "iiiwwwwww!" > >> >How exactly does one semi-french-kiss??? > >Azeem > >NP: Ben Christophers, "My Beautiful Demon" - amazing new English >singer/songwriter cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:05:35 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: Keith and Mick sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G (njc) I've never been able to understand why people think Mick Jagger is sexy. He has to be one of the bug-ugliest guys I've ever seen. He certainly does exploit his whatever-it-is-that-attracts though, judging by the fashion models who have borne his children. Thank whatever gods may be that they take after their mamas! >From: Siresorrow@aol.com >To: RMuRocks@aol.com, AzeemAK@aol.com, cateri@hotmail.com >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Keith and Mick sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G (njc) >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:49:43 EDT > >In a message dated 8/29/99 10:37:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >RMuRocks@aol.com writes: > ><< I didn't WANT to look but I couldn't look away... > >i'd like to see madonna and jewel semi-french kiss. > >also, not to stretch your boundaries but i recently saw an interview with >pete townsend where he said the first time he saw mick jagger sing was the >first time he ever considered f^$%ing a man. so there you go. mick must >have something special going. > >one last funny one...mick and the crew were on tour and being interviewed >by >rolling stone - an oxymoron in itself - and as the interviewer was asking >his >questions, someone from the production crew for the show came in and told >mick that the >"fat guy" from the blues travellers, who were the opening act, wanted to do >a >song with the stones playing the harmonica. > >mick is quoted directly in r.stone as saying " f%&* no, he's too good" > >sounds a little semi-thin skinned to me. ss. cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:14:19 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: NJC Dr. Seuss (long) Your point about dealing with illiteracy is a good one. My daughter has a learning disability, as a result of which she has extreme difficulty reading anything and quickly loses interest. I have discovered that when I read TO her, she gets a lot more out of it than when she tortures herself with trying to read on her own (if it's cheating, I see myself as the "interpreter" for a kid, same as if she were blind or deaf). Anyway, "The Cat in the Hat" is the first and only book she has ever read all the way through, all by herself, in one go, from beginning to end - and her reading sounded like a "normal" kid reading, not like someone who is straining to make her eyes attempt to translate all those squiggly shapes that refuse to stay still for her into sounds and words. That in itself is, I think, a tribute to Ted Geisel, right there. My dad used to read us the Seuss books when we were kids and he'd put on different voices for each character, a tradition I've continued with my kids - - we often end up in laughing fits rolling on the floor, and inevitably at least one of us has to run to the bathroom in a hurry (if you catch my drift.) >From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com >To: "Catherine McKay" >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: NJC Dr. Seuss (long) >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:08:02 -0400 > > > >Catherine said: > >< These things are not just funny, they do have a >point. I read in the paper today that there's a new Seuss book coming out >soon with his political anti-Nazi cartoons in them - I never knew he did >stuff like that.>> > >I LOVE Dr. Seuss. I was first hooked with 'On Beyond Zebra', and when I >mention this title most people look at me like I was from Mars...(well, OK, >people look at me like that *anyway*! :~D) The "point" of the book is that >there's a lot more to this ole world than people tell you about. "Some >people stop at the Z - but NOT ME!" I truly feel like it opened up the >gateway to my imagination wayyyy back when I first heard it. You can take >almost any of his books and discern a much deeper truth than what is being >discussed on the surface. Kinda like, oh, I don't know, JONI MITCHELL songs >maybe? > >I recently gave a presentation on Dr. Seuss for a men's group and utilized >the Web for a lot of the information. There's some very interesting trivia >surrounding his work. Green Eggs & Ham, his best seller and one of the most >popular books in the English language (Emily, back me up on this, will >you?) was written on a bet between he and Bennett Cerf that Seuss couldn't >write a book using less than 50 words. Seuss won, but Cerf never paid. > >And Green Eggs & Ham is truly inspirational; I use Sam I Am's approach to >try and turn folks on to Joni..."So you don't like Joni's high voice, how >about this version of "Summertime"? You don't like guitar, try this piano >piece...and then I wait for them to say, "Say, I LIKE Joni Mitchell, >Bob-I-Am!! :~) > >Theodore Geisel (his real name) never intended to be a writer of children's >books. He was Oxford educated and returned to the States to read in the >early 50's that illiteracy in children was climbing at an alarming rate. >The reason, it seemed was that the writers had to comply with a >pre-established list of acceptable words; their complaint was that nothing >enjoyable and stimulating for children could be written with this >guideline. Seuss set out to prove them wrong and The Cat in The Hat was the >result. > >He has also published many books as Theo LeSieg which is his last name >spelled backwards. He added the Dr. to his pseudonym because his Dad always >wanted him to be one. > >I could go on but doubt that you've made it this far...did his writing and >pictures affect anybody else the way it impacted me? > >Or do you just want to say "Robert K. Muller, WILL YOU PLEASE GO NOW!! :~) > >Bob > >NP: RLJ, "Comin' Back to Me" > > > cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:30:18 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: Canadian Joke (NJC) I just thought I'd let you know that, up here in Canada, I heard the same joke - except that, rather than the reference being to Canadians, it was .... Minnesotans! Ain't that a caution? cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:37:22 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Canadiens - NJC re: ..... Canadiens vs Leafs, you-know-who singing "Oh Canada."... Funny thing. Though I've lived in Toronto for over 30 years now, and left Montreal at the tender age of 2, I was born in Montreal and think, once a Montrealer, always a Montrealer. I couldn't give a rat's ass about the Leafs, but the Habs... now, that's Hockey (and I'm not even a sports fan.) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:06:48 -0400 From: "Lisa Peakes" Subject: Re: JoniFest '99 Pictures Thanks, Les - this is cool! > Hi Joniphiles - > This is Les writing from JoniFest on Ashara's computer. Having a great time! > Why aren't you here? > > Check out pictures of the event on-line as we get them: > http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest > > Catgirl's coming up on stage... gotta go.. > Les > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 17:59:16 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: The LA Express Hi everyone! Trying to break the silence with a question that has bugged me for some time. Looking at the photo of Joni and the LA Express in the MOA liner notes, who is who? I know the last one in the row is Joni but that's it! Mark, wishing he was at Ashara's!!!! ___________________________________ | Mark Domyancich | | Harpua@revealed.net | | http://home.revealed.net/Harpua | |_________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 20:38:23 EDT From: GREYC1@aol.com Subject: Re: LA Express Left to right: Tom Scott, Max Bennett, Robben Ford, Larry Nash, John Geurin (Joni's boyfriend at the time), and Joni ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:39:18 +1000 From: "Takats, Angela" Subject: ashara's bash and teary joni moment (sjc) Hello, For those listers unable to attend Ashara's little "do" - let's all mourn the loss together this weekend...boooo hooo I can't wait to hear all about it and see some pics on the website sometime soon - YAY Thought I'd share a little moment in the meantime: I've been having a tough time lately...having to make big career decisions etc. To cut a long story short, I decided to take on a new job and had to face my current boss to tell him the news...he spent nearly 20 minutes telling me I'd made the wrong decision and that it would wreck both my career and life...ANYWAY...I left the office in tears, sobbing uncontrollably - but had to go to the shops to buy lunch .... trying to fight back the tears I walked thru the aisles and then....what comes on the radio? JM - "Free Man In Paris"...now joni NEVER comes on the radio down here, especially not on a station that supermarkets play...I just stopped, stood there and totally lost the plot....it was all tears and all joni and everyone/everything else disappeared. It was upsetting, but comforting at the same time...I can't really explain it very well. It was such a spiritual experience. I think God and Joni were trying to tell me everything was going to be okay......... Ange Sydney ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #384 ************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?