From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #355 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Wednesday, August 18 1999 Volume 04 : Number 355 The Laborday JoniFest is happening this fall! For information: send a message to Join the mailing list at: ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: rhyming patterns, joni's albums ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: rhyming patterns, joni's albums [luvart@snet.net] Re: Song to a Seagull (long) [MDESTE1@aol.com] RE: Joni on DVD ["Leong, Dennis" ] Re: rhyming patterns, joni's albums [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Re: Joni's Dulcimer Tunings? ["Ken (Slarty)" ] Joni Disni [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Re: New section/JoniFest [Heather Galli ] Re: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaack (NJC) [Heather Galli ] Re: Joni Disni [Heather Galli ] Chip Taylor (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] Joni dulcimer tunings? [Steve Dulson ] Hello, fellow aficionados! (NJC) ["Steve Harper" ] Re: Joni dulcimer tunings? [Randy Remote ] Re: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaack (NJC) [Don Rowe ] Re: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaack (NJC) [Heather Galli ] Re: One Word Albums [Don Rowe ] NJC: For The oldies [catman ] Re: One Word Albums [Jason Maloney ] Sandy Denny (NJC) [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaack (NJC) ["Kakki" ] Song for Sharon ["Jennifer L. Nodine" ] SelfTuned (NJC) [michael paz ] re:alternate tunings (NJC) ["Takats, Angela" ] RE: Hello, fellow aficionados! (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: One Word Albums [Jason Maloney ] RE: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaack (NJC) ["Wally Kairuz" ] A Day In The Garden on home video?? ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Former Lady Of Duality ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: One Word Albums [Bolvangar@aol.com] Re: Joni dulcimer tunings? [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: Song to Sharon [PJT ] Re: Hello, fellow aficionados! (NJC) ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:59:47 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: rhyming patterns, joni's albums mmm.... maybe hosl was her "you" album, as opposed to her previous confessional material. djrd is tough; her "what the hell" album, perhaps? wally\k - -----Original Message----- De: Heather Galli Para: Wally Kairuz CC: joni@smoe.org Fecha: Lunes 16 de Agosto de 1999 13:40 Asunto: Re: rhyming patterns, joni's albums . >This is kind of a tough game .... what would you say to HOSL and DJRD? > >Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:34:23 +0100 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Joni's Dulcimer Tunings? Randy Remote >Has anyone worked out the dulcimer tunings and/or parts >>for California and Case of You? >>RR, dusting off his dulcimer According to dulcimer-player Rick Scott in his hitchhiking story, which I posted here a while back, "I was amazed when she took up my dulcimer, tuned all the strings to the same note and proceeded to play "A Case of You" from her "Blue" album." What that note was he doesn't say! PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:11:38 -0400 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: RE: rhyming patterns, joni's albums At 05:59 AM 8/17/99 -0300, you wrote: >mmm.... maybe hosl was her "you" album, as opposed to her previous >confessional material. djrd is tough; her "what the hell" album, perhaps? LOL, Wally!!! Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:06:07 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Song to a Seagull (long) I dont think STAS was a "reflection" at all. STAS was her first album. Piecing things together about Joni at that time this album was her first "everything" in the music business. The fact that Stills plays on the album is an indication that she was heavily involved with experienced music people when she did this. I dont know all the particulars but Stills was involved in the making of the record itself so she was not alone. I think she met Crosby first. But the songs themselves are one of pure unadulterated wide eyed experience happening for the first time. She had been an emerging star in the mid west and the north midwest and had traveled a little bit but STAS is sure the first experience of living in New York and finding herself immersed in a whole scene. It is a meeting of the old country girl turning into the east coast sophisticate. many of the songs on this album reflect upon the good aspects of living in Chelsea and hanging around Greenwich Village and the whole music scene. Something has always said to me that Marcie is Joni. That she was writing about herself although someone could correct me with better knowledge. I picture her growing tired of the New York sceen and seeing herself reflected in a store window (maybe suddenly looking older to herself) in the rain and making the decision to go out west which she did. Nathan la Freneer, For Free, Dawntreader (obviously out all night), Night in the City, Cactus Tree (reflecting on the loves of her life up to then). All of these speak to the New York period. Hejira was a whole different thing. That album surely is a reflection on life itself. But STAS to me is Alice in Wonderland. Marcel Deste. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:13:05 -0500 From: "Leong, Dennis" Subject: RE: Joni on DVD Got this notice recently and ordered a copy yesterday. I'll post a review after it arrives: >We just got in the Joni Mitchell Shadows and Light DVD. We didn't >know if you wanted this or the movie Shadows and Light. Please >email me back and let me know. > > >Thank you, > > >Steve Mars, Laserexchange. > >----------------------------------------------- >Laserexchange Tel. 1-978-774-1004 >20 Locust Street Suite 106 Fax. 1-978-774-2787 >Danvers MA 01923 Email laserex@laserexchange.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:08:50 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Re: rhyming patterns, joni's albums Don said: <> And her setting to music the "Love Chapter" in Corinthians, certainly a "classic" as well... Bob NP: Woodstock from PWWAM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:45:38 -0400 From: "Ken (Slarty)" Subject: Re: Joni's Dulcimer Tunings? And the answer is (drum roll) AAA Paul Castle wrote: > Randy Remote > >>Has anyone worked out the dulcimer tunings and/or parts > >>for California and Case of You? > >>RR, dusting off his dulcimer > > According to dulcimer-player Rick Scott in his hitchhiking story, which I > posted here a while back, "I was amazed when she took up my dulcimer, tuned > all the strings to the same note and proceeded to play "A Case of You" from > her "Blue" album." > > What that note was he doesn't say! > > PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:48:29 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Joni Disni marcel compared: <> So, following your lead, here are some others... For The Roses - Bambi (Joni as the young fawn trapped in the burning forest of celebrity) Court & Spark - Beauty & The Beast (Joni the beauty dealing with inner and outer beasts, eventually embracing them) Hissing of Summer Lawns - Lady and the Tramp (Joni as the lady; Harry, The Kingpin, the man in DITS, HOSL as the tramps who would tempt to woo her with love only to possess her) Hejira - The Jungle Book (Joni as Mowgli raised by wolves/coyotes, trying to escape but eventually accepting that love will suck her back that way) Don Juan's Reckless Daughter - Fantasia (an amazing array of images, all you can say is WOW!) Mingus - The Lion King (the passing of the torch from one innovator/generation to the next) Dog Eat Dog - 101 Dalmations (the needless persecution of the innocent for the benefit of the greedy) Any others? Bob NP: Night Ride Home, Live 1994 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:25:48 -0500 From: Heather Galli Subject: Re: New section/JoniFest >> Bob >> >> NP: Laura Nyro, "blackpatch" (fwiw, I think 'Beads of Sweat' >greatly >> superior to 'NY Tendaberry'...I can't get enough of it! >> >> >I said it afore & I'll say it again. 'Xmas & the Beads of Sweat' is >an unrecognized classic. Get it if you don't already have it! > I'll put an AMEN! on that :-) Heather >Mark in Seattle > >'clothes pins on wash ropes > window to window tied > socks & bells & nightgowns > tassels in the morning > tassels in the morning sky' > >from 'Blackpatch' by the incredible Laura Nyro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:31:23 -0500 From: Heather Galli Subject: Re: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaack (NJC) >Hello Joni Land...we're back from the horsepistol and have caught up on a >bit of sleep. Here's a bulletin from the mastectomy front: life can be >quite nice even without one's left breast. :) Deanna Ivy the Wonderkitty >and I thank all for the messages of encouragement that have arrived from >the JMDL front...how wonderful that we're here not just for Joni but also >and most lovingly for one another. > >Enough of that, eh? > >OK, now: let's get out there and have a really gawdawful Joni argument! > >Hugz, > >Janet and Deanna So glad your back Janet!!! We can all take a lesson from your outlook :-) Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:37:00 -0500 From: Heather Galli Subject: Re: Joni Disni Yo Bob!! Did you take a big Disney pill or what? ;-) Heather (very good, btw :-) >For The Roses - Bambi (Joni as the young fawn trapped in the burning forest >of celebrity) > >Court & Spark - Beauty & The Beast (Joni the beauty dealing with inner and >outer beasts, eventually embracing them) > >Hissing of Summer Lawns - Lady and the Tramp (Joni as the lady; Harry, The >Kingpin, the man in DITS, HOSL as the tramps who would tempt to woo >her with love only to possess her) > >Hejira - The Jungle Book (Joni as Mowgli raised by wolves/coyotes, trying >to escape but eventually accepting that love will suck her back that >way) > >Don Juan's Reckless Daughter - Fantasia (an amazing array of images, all >you can say is WOW!) > >Mingus - The Lion King (the passing of the torch from one >innovator/generation to the next) > >Dog Eat Dog - 101 Dalmations (the needless persecution of the innocent for >the benefit of the greedy) > >Any others? > >Bob > >NP: Night Ride Home, Live 1994 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:51:34 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Chip Taylor (NJC) Bob wrote: >I always thought it so hysterical that JONI would be the one to come out >with an "answer" song to the Troggs' "Wild Thing". One of the blessings/curses of being so old ;) is that one picks up (and remembers!) all this useless trivia... "Wild Thing" was written by Chip Taylor, who also wrote "Angel of the Morning". In 1973 he released an excellent LP called "Chip Taylor's Last Chance" (just reissued on CD) and I saw him in Atlanta when he was touring to support that. He has since re-emerged on the folkie/ Americana circuit and is well worth seeing....even if he could just stay home and live off "Wild Thing's" little royalty pennies. Major League, anyone? Oh, yeah, and he's Jon Voight's brothe, BTW. ############################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" *NEW* website at: http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" (Website soon!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:00:29 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Joni dulcimer tunings? Randy Remote wrote: >I found (more or less) the dulcimer parts for Carey and >All I Want on Sue McNamara's jmdl page. Cool! I'll have to check that out...I didn't know Sue Mac was doing dulcimer stuff, too...shoulda known...:) If anything I say below conflicts with Sue, she's probably right! >Has anyone worked out the dulcimer tunings and/or parts >for California and Case of You? Case of You is in the Misses songbook...is California in Hits? COY is "bagpipe" tuning - all strings tuned to the same note (try B) with the bass an octave down. I can play it, with a bit of advanced warning! AIW is also bagpipe, I believe. the other two should be Joni variations of the typical dulcimer Ionian mode (frequently D (bass) - A - A). I think Joni put the bass on the middle string, though. The dulcimer notation for Carey in Hits is missing a bunch of notes, but don't tell Ruth Barrett I said that. >RR, dusting off his dulcimer About time, Randy! :) ############################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" *NEW* website at: http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" (Website soon!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:46:17 PDT From: "Steve Harper" Subject: Hello, fellow aficionados! (NJC) Testing....1.....2.....3..... (gee, I hope I'm getting this right.......) Hi, everyone! Taking a moment to ooze out of the chaos of anonymity (I have no idea what I mean by that!) to say a big hello in this first-time post from an 8-month subscriber to the JMDL. My name is Steve Harper, and I am from and live in Atlanta. I must say that I feel like I know so many of you from your thoughtful, impeccably written posts. Hi to Kakki of Hollywood, Marian of Vienna, Bob (N Carolina?-- in my mind, I'm goin' to ...), Evian of Saskatoon (right?), and all the rest. I've been swamped with life-stuff recently, so I'm not quite up on the "state of the list." (Pardon me if I don't respond on the thread-du-jour, whatever it may be.) Why the sudden de-lurkage after months of underground smiles and laughs of recognition at your thoughtful reflections on the music of Joni, you could be asking (immediately followed by, "and just why should I care?") Well, life finds me traveling to Provincetown, Mass. next week for a vacation extravaganza (my own personal East Coast tour, of a sort) and I was wondering if any JMDLers might be traveling there, too? It is Carnival Week on the peninsula, after all, and I know we have many New Englanders on the list, some of whom might be interested in visiting the Cape. (I can't make it for Joni-Fest, but perhaps we could have a pre-Joni-Fest?) I will be staying in P-Town Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday (Aug, 23, 24, 25) at a B&B called the Copper Fox. Email me if you will be in the area and might want to chat for a bit, have some tea, drink in some butterscotch sunshine......whatever. I'm calling this my own personal "Weekend in New England." (First time there, you see....) (Thursday, I will be traveling up to see my brother in Camden, Maine.) You can respond to me directly at SWHARPER@HOTMAIL.COM, if you like. My favorite Joni album is........well, let's save that for the future. Oh, and I'll try to keep myself open up to you..... Steve ; ) P.S. I'm not a professional, like some of you, but I do sing! P.P.S. Hey, and look, I remembered the NJC tag. Whaddayaknow! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:50:51 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni dulcimer tunings? Thanks Ken, CatGirl, Paul C, and Steve! Steve Dulson wrote: > Randy Remote wrote: > > >I found (more or less) the dulcimer parts for Carey and > >All I Want on Sue McNamara's jmdl page. > > Cool! I'll have to check that out...I didn't know Sue Mac was > doing dulcimer stuff, too...shoulda known...:) If anything I > say below conflicts with Sue, she's probably right! I should clarify that. The parts mentioned are adapted for guitar, but seem to work on the dulcimer. The tuning for All I Want is F#, G#, G# or in Jonilingo F#, 14, 0 (from Howard Wright). You can play it using the top 4 strings on guitar, either removing or avoiding the low E and A. Then call James Taylor for accompaniment! RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:00:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaack (NJC) Hooray ... and welcome back indeed! If you're as ready as you say to: > get out there and have a really > gawdawful Joni argument! ... then please pick from the list of available topics below: "Dog Eat Dog -- Best In Show or Pound Puppy?" "Hejira vs. For The Roses XXXVII" "Larry Klein -- Ridiculous or Sublime?" "Pachyderms -- Penis or Percussion?" "Dialectic Materialism in the Painting of Joni Mitchell" "Bootleggers, Pirates, Tramps and Theives" "Roland VG8 -- Savior or Demon Electronica?" "Joni's Mother/Shame Fixation -- The Return" "The REAL History of Alternate Guitar Tuning" "Pick a Producer for Joni's Next Project" "Define (NJC)" I'll look forward to something gawdawful!! :-) Don Rowe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:52:33 -0500 From: Heather Galli Subject: Re: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaack (NJC) > >"Dog Eat Dog -- Best In Show or Pound Puppy?" >"Hejira vs. For The Roses XXXVII" >"Larry Klein -- Ridiculous or Sublime?" Well I thought the jeans he designed were ok but ....oops ... wrong Klein >"Pachyderms -- Penis or Percussion?" I thought this had to do with one of Joni's curly-doos ??? >"Dialectic Materialism in the Painting of Joni >Mitchell" >"Bootleggers, Pirates, Tramps and Theives" So THAT'S what Cher has been singing .... >"Roland VG8 -- Savior or Demon Electronica?" >"Joni's Mother/Shame Fixation -- The Return" >"The REAL History of Alternate Guitar Tuning >"Pick a Producer for Joni's Next Project" Michael Bolton .... he has nothing else to do ;-) (oh go ahead ... bash away!) >"Define (NJC)" Ask anyone who just gets (JC) ;-) Heather - who is all too often confused ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:17:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: One Word Albums Free association ... my favorite parlor game! Here's mine: > STAS -- Epiphany > Clouds - Innocence > LOTC - Distilled > Blue - Passionate > FTR - Metamorphosis > C&S - Mastery > HOSL - Resonant > > MOA - Intimate > Hejira - Divine > DJRD - High Gothic > Mingus - Daring > S&L - Retrospective > WTRF - Classic > DED - Physical > CMIARS - Chorale > NRH - Prodigal > TI - Unflinching > TTT - Symphonic Hope this thread get picked up ... this was a lot of fun! Don Rowe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:48:46 +0100 From: catman Subject: NJC: For The oldies Wisdom From Senior Citizens > > 1. I started with nothing. I still have most of it. > 2. When did my wild oats turn to prunes and All-Bran? > 3. I finally got my head together, now my body is falling apart. > 4. Funny, I don't remember being absent-minded. > 5. All reports are in. Life is now officially unfair. > 6. If all is not lost, where is it? > 7. It is easier to get older than it is to get wiser. > 8. If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished. > 9. The first rule of holes: if you are in one, stop digging. > 10. I tried to get a life once, but they told me they were out of stock. > 11. I went to school to become a wit, only got halfway though. > 12. It was so different before everything changed. > 13. Some days you're the dog, and some days you're the hydrant. > 14. Nostalgia isn't what it use to be. > 15. Old programmers never die. They just terminate and stay resident. > 16. A day without sunshine is like a day in Seattle. > 17. I wish the buck stopped here! I could use a few. > 18. Kids in the back seat cause accidents; accidents in the back seat cause > kids. > 19. It's not the pace of life that concerns me, it's the sudden stop at the > end. > 20. It's hard to make a comeback when you haven't been anywhere. > 21. Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include a trip around the sun. > 22. The only time the world beats a path to your door is if you're in the > bathroom. > 23. If God wanted me to touch my toes, He would have put them on my knees. > 24. Never knock on death's door, ring the bell and run (he hates that). > 25. Lead me not into temptation (I can find the way myself). > 26. When you are finally holding all the cards, why does everyone else > decide to play chess? > 27. If you are living on the edge, make sure your wearing your seatbelt. > 28. There are two kinds of pedestrians. The quick and the dead. > 29. An unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys. > 30. A closed mouth gathers no feet. > 31. Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. > 32. Its not hard to meet expenses; they are everywhere. > 33. Jury: Twelve people who determine which client has the better attorney. > 34. The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:02:52 +0100 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: One Word Albums > STAS - Nice > Clouds - Nice > LOTC - Nice > Blue - Nice > FTR - Nice > C&S - Nice > HOSL - Nice > MOA - Nice > Hejira - Nice > DJRD - Nice > Mingus - Nice > S&L - Nice > WTRF - Nice > DED - Nice > CMIARS - Nice > NRH - Nice > TI - Nice > TTT - Nice-ish ;-) Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:55:04 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Sandy Denny (NJC) Considering that there was recent discussion on Sandy (sorry if I spelled her name wrong- I'm not familiar with her work), I thought I'd share what I just heard on NPR's Fresh Air today. Richard Thompson was being interviewed and he was asked what caused Sandy's death. Apprently, she did die of a head injury but it's unclear as to whether it was from the last fall, or whether it exacerbated injuries she sustained in earlier falls. He said she was a "hard living" woman and though he and others were shocked by her sudden death, they weren't totally surprised. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:22:45 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaack (NJC) Don, this was brilliant! You and Bob are on a roll today! Kakki, proud participant in all of the gawdawful Joni arguments except the Pachyderm thread. ;-D > ... then please pick from the list of available > topics below: > > "Dog Eat Dog -- Best In Show or Pound Puppy?" > "Hejira vs. For The Roses XXXVII" > "Larry Klein -- Ridiculous or Sublime?" > "Pachyderms -- Penis or Percussion?" > "Dialectic Materialism in the Painting of Joni > Mitchell" > "Bootleggers, Pirates, Tramps and Theives" > "Roland VG8 -- Savior or Demon Electronica?" > "Joni's Mother/Shame Fixation -- The Return" > "The REAL History of Alternate Guitar Tuning" > "Pick a Producer for Joni's Next Project" > "Define (NJC)" > > I'll look forward to something gawdawful!! :-) > > Don Rowe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:27:24 -0400 From: "Jennifer L. Nodine" Subject: Song for Sharon This song, and Hejira, which I used to skip over when I first bought MOA, have become one of my favorites. Now that the words and emotions related with these songs have touched my soul (surely you've touched mine, Joni) I skip over the other ones to hear these first. My take is that Joni is a lover of love, and of the pain that comes with it. She has always fancied the idea of having the husband and the family and the farm and would trade places with Sharon in a heartbeat (YOU sing for your friends and your family, I'LL watch green pastures by and by). The relationships she's had just haven't been what she needed to get her there. For Joni, love has been an emotion attached to an imaginary ideal-she truly beleives love is stimulated by illusion, more than anything. And even though it's a repetitious danger (at least according to her experience) she will continue to chase the White Lace. Jenny CT np: Song for Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:21:38 +0000 From: michael paz Subject: SelfTuned (NJC) Patty wrote: "Glad to here that you're going to be demoing that Trans Performance Guitar apparatus, just sorry that I won't be able to see/hear in person. Maybe I could get a tape of your performance? By the way, did you ask those guys at Trans Perf about their working with Parker towards an acoustic Joni-type thing. They were pretty evasive in Nashville, all they would give me was the above mentioned fact. Hope you enjoy it, it seemed pretty cool." Hi Patty- Thanks again for the inspiration to call TP. They are working closely with Parker and also working on coming out with a straight acoustic model. I plan on staying in touch with these guys and see what I can do to help them. They were pretty stoked that I am in contact with Parker and they seem to have a great relationship with him already. I am told that their apparatus only adds about 1/2 lb. to the weight of the guitar. Thats great news for me if I can get one in a Parker Concert Fly. The tapes will be rolling at Joni Fest I am sure. Best wishes to you. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:21:32 +1000 From: "Takats, Angela" Subject: re:alternate tunings (NJC) Victor wrote: <> Thanks from me too :-D I totally agree with Victor about the inspirational boost the detuning website has been....I haven't been in full song writing mode for ages and after printing out pages of the tunings and messing around, I found myself really drawn into the mellow guitar strings and the songs they were singing me! I've only mastered two detunings (DADFAD, DGDBG) but they have already been the base of four new songs...all of which I am rather proud of. The detunings add such another dimension to my song writing - I can't believe how pretty they are...how they can change my mood...And they have forced me to improve my guitar playing...tackling bar chords (yes, u pros may laugh at the easy nature of bar chords, but my little hand has always struggled to get around them) and making up my own finger patterns......SO a BIG THANKS from me too (not to mention the wonderful enjoyment I get from finally being able to play some of my fav joni tunes!) Thoughts from Ange - Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:41:55 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Hello, fellow aficionados! (NJC) hey steve! welcome aboard! it's too bad you can't come to the jonifest: you'll be practically on the spot, only a few days before. any chance you'll reconsider? best, wally\K ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:50:03 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: One Word Albums only ... NICE?!?!?! now that's a word songwriters dislike. that and "interesting", of course. ;-) wally\k - -----Original Message----- De: Jason Maloney Para: joni@smoe.org Fecha: Martes 17 de Agosto de 1999 12:12 Asunto: Re: One Word Albums >> STAS - Nice >> Clouds - Nice >> LOTC - Nice >> Blue - Nice >> FTR - Nice >> C&S - Nice >> HOSL - Nice >> MOA - Nice >> Hejira - Nice >> DJRD - Nice >> Mingus - Nice >> S&L - Nice >> WTRF - Nice >> DED - Nice >> CMIARS - Nice >> NRH - Nice >> TI - Nice >> TTT - Nice-ish ;-) > >Jason. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:05:07 +0100 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: One Word Albums Well, I wasn't going to type out "interesting" 18 times! Life is too short for that ;-) Jason. > only ... NICE?!?!?! now that's a word songwriters dislike. that and > "interesting", of course. ;-) > wally\k > >> STAS - Nice > >> Clouds - Nice > >> LOTC - Nice > >> Blue - Nice > >> FTR - Nice > >> C&S - Nice > >> HOSL - Nice > >> MOA - Nice > >> Hejira - Nice > >> DJRD - Nice > >> Mingus - Nice > >> S&L - Nice > >> WTRF - Nice > >> DED - Nice > >> CMIARS - Nice > >> NRH - Nice > >> TI - Nice > >> TTT - Nice-ish ;-) > > > >Jason. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:58:20 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaack (NJC) >>"Pachyderms -- Penis or Percussion?" > >I thought this had to do with one of Joni's curly-doos ??? > oh heather, those were her tacky perms not her pachyderms ;-))) wally\k ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:51:45 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: NJC: New grandson Born 8-7-99, Braiden James... and when I held him tonight for the first time, I told him about the White Sox, the University of Michigan, Joni Mitchell, and Samoyeds (the breed of dogs that I have)... ... and as he grasped my finger, I think he will have a flair for those alternate tunings we hear so much about! And to hold one grandson and have another one climbing on my back... I was hoping Joni was holding her new one at the same time, so we could connect as very young, but very thrilled, new grandparents. And I wanteded to share the news with my my friends of the JMDL. (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:03:00 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: A Day In The Garden on home video?? Hear, hear! If there is a video, let's tree it with all diliberate speed. Does it have Hi-Fi tracks? Is the sound as good as the uhm, widely circulated audience tape of the show? > Jerry Notaro wrote: > > It's funny that I've never seen the video of this wonderful show > > mentioned on the list. I received it for trade and finally watched it > > with a Joni freak during my vacation a few weeks back. It is really > > quite wonderful. I had no idea the quality would be so good. Kate said: > WHAT video????!!!! - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** Tolerance, tolerance, tol... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:19:55 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Former Lady Of Duality Intro/Summary Sentence: Joni's early albums were full of duality but TTT is full of single-vision lyrics. In Joni's early albums, she's Our Lady of Duality. Key example is "THe Last Time I Saw Richard". "You sing of love so sweet When ya' gonna get your self back on your feet?" In TTT's Harlem In Havana, she's singing more about one topic: Getting away with kicking up her kick pleat skirt, having fun. Is life becoming clearer as she embraces her cats and the comfort of her own home? Does the Road no longer hold-her/set-her-free as it did in the 1980's? As they say, "Discuss". BTW, "The Last TIme I Saw Richard" must be the heaviest song ever. Remember when we used to talk like that? - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** Tolerance, tolerance, tol... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:05:13 EDT From: Bolvangar@aol.com Subject: Re: One Word Albums > STAS -- Epiphany > Clouds - Innocence > LOTC - Distilled.... Now that we've gone from summing up Joni songs in one line to summing up albums in one word, I think the next logical step is to sum up her entire career in one letter. I suggest "r." - --David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:24:57 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni dulcimer tunings? In a message dated 8/17/99 11:55:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, guitarzan@saber.net writes: << Then call James Taylor for accompaniment! >> Does anyone know how JT plays his bit on Case of You? Terry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:55:31 -0700 (PDT) From: PJT Subject: Re: Song to Sharon Emily > a song that has reverberated so deeply inside of me, I just read your post, and just listened to "Song For Sharon" on the way home. (if Les is reading this, please email me in private) I was listening to a tape Les, sent me from Red Rocks. It was wonderful and touched me again as she so often does, over and over again. What a blessing she is to me and all of us who love her ... Pam _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:22:22 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Hello, fellow aficionados! (NJC) Hi Steve and welcome in from Lurkland! > I must say that I feel like I know so many of you from your thoughtful, > impeccably written posts. Hi to Kakki of Hollywood, Marian of Vienna, Bob > (N Carolina?-- in my mind, I'm goin' to ...), > Evian of Saskatoon (right?), and all the rest. Oh my, that is very sweet of you. I technically reside in the concrete monolith of downtown L.A., but I suppose it's all Hollywood here actually ;-) Now what is it going to take for us to convince you to alter your plans to make it to Jonifest?! You can party with me, Marian, Bob, (we are working on Evian ;-) and many of the rest of us there real time! Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #355 ************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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