From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #291 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Saturday, July 3 1999 Volume 04 : Number 291 The Laborday JoniFest is happening this fall! For information: send a message to Join the mailing list at: ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni's training [Lori ] Re: Covers of Joni Songs. [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Does it wear off? [Steve Dulson ] RE: Concert last night and new to list ["patrick leader" ] Re: Tape Tree # 8 - Back To The Garden ["Mark or Travis" ] * central park ["Eric G. Postel" ] Re: Covers of Joni Songs. Asking howard the brit for permission. [MDESTE1] Re: joni last night - does it wear off [Susan Chaloner Subject: Joni's training I can't remember if I ever knew, and if I did, I can't remember . . . Did Joni ever take voice lessons? What do we know about any of her musical training? Lori A. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:45:02 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers of Joni Songs. In a message dated 7/2/1999 8:05:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MDESTE1@aol.com writes: << The best version of Cold Blue Steel I have ever heard is by our very own JMDL list member Howard the Brit. It is fabulous. marcel deste. >> How do I get to hear that? Cat.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:11:15 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Does it wear off? Penny wrote: >Is this weird, or are some of the rest of >you feeling this same emotion? Long time JMDLers, does it wear off? No. ############################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" *NEW* website at: http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" (Website soon!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:35:12 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Concert last night and new to list hey valerie, welcome! from another new yorker. i am still glowing about last night. The only let down for me was Jane >Siberry's performance, since I'm also a big fan of hers. Her web site >had listed for a while the two songs that she would be performing. Why >couldn't she learn the lyrics? a bunch of us listers hung out after the concert and jane was a major subject of discussion between barbara burst, lisa durfee and i, who are all major jane fans. people's parties was indeed disappointing and brought down the level a bit, but i thought she did a much better job with strange boy, especially feeding off that magnificent bass player. her particular sense of theater in singing is just so right for that song. one thing she and several performers did (and this didn't hurt the energy at all) is sing a line and then say 'can you believe how good that line is?' jane's moment was 'stiff-blue-haired-house-rules' but we agreed that jane is a bit nervous as a performer, more last night than usual. and she does have trouble with lyrics. i wrote a report for www.jonimitchell.com which i also forwarded to this list, and i cleverly described her performance as edge-of-your-seat, not saying whether that meant 'astounding' or 'is she gonna fuck it up' (or both). her own performances have been walking that same line and i think she is creating brilliance by throwing it all out there. i did have a few other disappointed moments in the concert, but nothing that kept it from being an incredibly exciting night. >My friends have been raving about Joy Askew for a while, i've been raving about joy for a long time, since chris kornmann, a jonilistlurker announced a local date way last summer. she gives an amazing show, and if she plays in ny again this summer you must see her. welcome, again! patrick np - a todd rundgren tribute ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:58:45 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Re: Concert last night and new to list Valerie asks: << I wonder if any sort of CD will grow out of this project, even if it's a studio recording rather than a tape of last night's show. >> Welcome to the list Valerie! That would a great 3 or 4 disc set. It would be dreamy if it WAS released commercially... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:06:14 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni's Jazz at the Park Jon Hendricks > and Annie Ross (they performed Twisted and totally rocked) Even though they were really performing their own song (Annie Ross penned the lyrics to 'Twisted') this must have been such a thrill for Joni to have them perform in a tribute concert to her. She's been a fan of theirs for a long time. What a wonderful night it must have been! I'm so envious! Thanks guys, for all the great reports! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:08:02 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: joni last night - does it wear off In a message dated 99-07-02 17:39:09 EDT, zapuppy2@webtv.net writes: > Is this weird, or are some of the rest of >you feeling this same emotion? Long time JMDLers, does it wear off? Nope, it don't. You may go through cycles of mucho Joni and petite Joni, but it sure doesn't. Nope, nope and nope. Or as Steve Dulson so eloquently put it: "No." MG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:31:02 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni's training > I can't remember if I ever knew, and if I did, I can't remember . . . Did > Joni ever take voice lessons? What do we know about any of her musical > training? > > Lori A. > If memory serves, her only formal 'training' was piano lessons when she was a kid. The teacher would rap her on the knuckles every time she would play anything original, though, and asked her something like 'Why would you want to compose when you can have the classics at your fingertips?' I think this pretty well turned Joni off to any kind of formal training in music. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:37:59 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Tape Tree # 8 - Back To The Garden > My take on these songs is that most of them were borderline insulting to > Joni, not tributes. I wonder about this too. Some of them seem to have a mocking tone about them as if the singer is making fun of the song instead of paying tribute to it. Am I misunderstanding or being too sensitive here? Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 18:36:51 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Tape Tree # 8 - Back To The Garden Mark mused about the tributes: > I wonder about this too. Some of them seem to have a mocking tone > about them as if the singer is making fun of the song instead of > paying tribute to it. Am I misunderstanding or being too sensitive > here? I perceived a wanna-be-punkish self-indulgence in some of the covers. Don't know if they were deliberately making fun of her - any attempts at parody were certainly dismal if they were. Maybe we should not give them that much credit! Kakki NP: Joni - Number One ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 00:30:47 -0400 From: "Eric G. Postel" Subject: * central park Thanks for all the reports -- sounded great. Now the obvious question, did anybody tape it? Have a nice weekend, Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 00:33:57 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers of Joni Songs. Asking howard the brit for permission. OK lets ask him. HOWARD, CAN I SEND YOUR VERSION OF COLD BLUE STEEL TO CATGIRL ? PLEASE RESPOND. marcel deste. The poor woman is DYING to hear your version of Jonis tune. However its your work and I wont send it unless you say I can out of respect for you as an artist. And Howard what is your email address again. warm regards. marcel deste.. ps. If Howard Oks the sending I will need Catgirls adress. From the recent Post I am led to believe that Catgirl and her husband are accomplished musicians. AND they do Joni covers. Is it not time for another Joni tribute tape ???? Can one be created at Asharas jonifest ? Will Michael Paz do his inimityable version of Amelia ? Is there enough reverb in the world to make Paz's vocal tracks spellbinding ? Ive had way too much cabernet. The California curse. The wine is too good. Howard please respond. Marcel deste/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 23:27:19 -0700 From: Susan Chaloner Subject: Re: joni last night - does it wear off MGVal@aol.com wrote: > Nope, it don't. You may go through cycles of mucho Joni and petite Joni, but > it sure doesn't. Nope, nope and nope. > > Or as Steve Dulson so eloquently put it: "No." Now MG, don't drop dead of shock because I'm agreeing with you ;~D I must confess it's not the first...just the first time I've admitted it :~D People may go on road trips for awhile but they almost always come back to this place...it's the weirdest thing! :~) Susan L.A. Honey McBabe-"...You can check out anytime you like but You can never leave..."-Don Henley/ Glen Frey/ Don Felder ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #291 ************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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