From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #260 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Tuesday, June 15 1999 Volume 04 : Number 260 The Laborday JoniFest is happening this fall! For information: send a message to Join the mailing list at: ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Two entertwining threads (JC and long) [mwyarbro@zzapp.org] Re: Rothko, etc. (NJC) [CarltonCT@aol.com] Re: joni covers on tape tree #8, etc. (jc) a review [Bob.Muller/GV/FD/Flu] RE: NJC Junk food. ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: challenge to British JMDLers [catman ] Re: joni covers on tape tree #8, etc. (jc) a review [Mark Domyancich ] re: Sisostowbell Lane ["Takats, Angela" ] more on diebenkorn (njc) [patrick leader ] Re: more on diebenkorn (njc) ["Kakki" ] Re: Atlanta birthday show... [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: challenge to British JMDLers ["Kakki" ] re: atlanta birthday show [waytoblu@mindspring.com] Re: Waterbound? (NJC) [luvart@snet.net] Re: atlanta birthday show [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Ashara's bath (NJC) [Ashara@aol.com] Whats in a name njc [michaelb@coolgold.com.au (Michael)] Fundraiser/Jonifest/Raffle Update [Ashara@aol.com] one reason why nosy jmdlers might imagine that james is 'carey' (jc) [pat] next joni tribute in Sydney ["Takats, Angela" ] TT #8 Covers & Leonard Cohen (Long) [Lindsay Moon ] Drum Kit for Joni Fest (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Happy Birthday Hunny! (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: NJC Junk food. [Susan Chaloner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:26:14 -0800 From: mwyarbro@zzapp.org Subject: Two entertwining threads (JC and long) Someone (I'm sorry I don't remember who!) had mentioned their newfound appreciation for "Sisotowbell Lane," and asked if anyone else had seen an experience increase their appreciation of a Joni song. A different thread, begun by our dear friend Rickie Lee, has brought "Stay in Touch" back to my attention. In that thread Simon quoted Joni saying something ("We are all so foolish when we're smitten," I believe) that sparked my interest. I looked up the lyrics and was immediately struck by its relevance to a recent experience of mine. About a month ago I vacationed for five days in Miami Beach. A few weeks into my newly single life, I had gone to bathe my nerves in the moist air and dry them in the sun, letting my frustrations float away into the ozone. I escaped to the dancefloors and the beaches, and maybe a bed or two, sweating out my stress and shedding my sleep schedule like any other cumbersome responsibility. I normally don't go in for the hedonist vacation, but when in Miami... And it was wonderful. Had my trip not gone beyond baked brie in a sidewalk cafe or a jog along the ebbing waves, I would have been happy. The atmosphere of South Beach was so relaxed, so redemptive, that as my last days approached I actually felt ready to retackle the real world. I spent one of my final nights at Liquid, probably the best known club in South Beach. It was a good night, with inventive and energetic tribal music (though Cher did rear her ugly head--am I the only fag who doesn't "Believe?"). A healthy dose of interesting boyz mixed among the bland Chelsea transplants, and one of them caught my eye. I caught his, too. Thus began the ritual mating dance we all know so well. His name was Oscar, a Nicaraguan of 22 years with cafe con leche skin tone and short-shaved sideburns to his earlobes. His eyes smiled as he danced. Affable and sexy, he hooked me instantly. At 5:30 we left the club. Miami, like New York, is still quite open for business at that hour, and I grabbed some beans and rice as we walked. The sky gradually faded through navy blue as we strolled, and it was almost fully light when we sat on a bus bench to talk. In Oscar I quickly discovered many deep similarities to myself, despite our superficial differences. His old soul shone through his youthful face, much like I have been told mine does. He and his family had fled their war-torn home for Miami when Oscar was ten. In the past year he had ended a four-year relationship, as had I, and he was now searching for some accomplishment to brand his life. Like others I had met in Miami Beach, Oscar enjoyed the fun of the local lifestyle but regretted the impermanence. The constant influx of tourists made hedonism easy but connection difficult. He wanted to move soon, probably to Atlanta. With only a G.E.D. on paper but a sharp and critical mind, he dreamed of going on to school and becoming an architect. Our attention turned to a beautiful art deco apartment building, when he began to tell me a story. It was the story of an opera, in which a seamstress lived in the top floor of an apartment building not unlike the one we saw. One night her candle goes out, so she asks her downstairs neighbor to relight it for her. Her neighbor is a poet, with no riches other than those in his head. He has nothing, he tells her, but every once in a long while two thieves come to steal everything he has. What sort of thieves could steal from he who has nothing, she asks? He replies, "Two eyes like yours." The opera, of course, was _La Boheme_, and I, of course, was melting. Oscar has the Joni gift for telling a story, so now when I looked at him I saw not some cute chico from the bar but an apparition I could not entirely fathom and hoped to God didn't disappear. I, like _Boheme's_ Rodolfo, was smitten. "Part of this is permanent Part of this is passing" We ventured to the beach to watch the sunrise as Oscar searched for shells. He gave me two, small and white, to keep. Later that day (after sleeping) we would sit not far from that spot, discussing the movement of time through us, or the movement of us through time. A philosopher in babe's clothing, Oscar arrived in my life at the time I was seemingly least ready for him. Coming out of a deeply meaningful relationship with a man I still love very much, I was committed (and still am) to exploring my independence. In a few short hours Oscar kissed my soul, and I was thrilled and confused by it. Time and circumstance required that what we experienced fall into a category undrawn by tradition. Not just friendly, and not quite romantic, our interaction was something more complex and nebulous than I had yet seen. Something that I should have known Joni would have described in song. "This is really something People will be envious But our roles aren't clear So we musn't rush Still, we're burning brightly Clinging like fire to fuel I'm grinning like a fool" And yes, Oscar has stayed in touch. In fact, there's a message from him on my machine right now. I am forging a friendship (even the large vocabulary of English can be so inadequate at times) that is exciting and revealing. I'm still doing what I need to do for me-- still single, still searching for myself. But now I have an additional fellow searcher to keep me company. And I'm grinning like a fool. "So, we should just surrender Let fate and duty shape us Let light hearts remake us Let the worries hush In the middle of this continent In the middle of our time on Earth We perceive one another Stay in touch" Thanks for listening... - --Michael - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:17:06 EDT From: CarltonCT@aol.com Subject: Re: Rothko, etc. (NJC) Hi Don - I didn't say anything to her. She wasn't really asking me what I thought of it. She was from a Slavic country and had one of those deep, Natasha (from Bullwinkle) voices and just kept staring. She left promptly and politely after one more viewing, but was in there again a couple of days later, and probably the following day. I wonder what happened to her. I did think her piece was kind of pretty the first time I saw it. One of my fave video makers was a guy who was blatant about his art as a focus on himself and his honesty made it tolerable. He was anorexic and always fainting from not eating and looked something like a survivor of the Nazi death camps. None-the-less, he was compelled to take his clothes off for most of his videos. One of them was called "Marks" in which he put a camera over four walls freshly painted with white. Then he got inside the box and smashed around it until he passed out. Afterwards, after a brief hospitalization, he went back and recorded all the parts of the walls which were covered with skin or blood. Last I heard, he had inserted himself naked into a Lucite cube for a month with a tube going into his mouth and two tubes going out of ... well, you get the picture. He had already done his publicity so that people would come by to see him. He was quite adept at making himself into what decorators in the Sixties called a 'conversation piece'. He riled some feminists when he got naked for a video and wagged a shot gun while repeating a poem called "Girls in Bikinis Get Fucked All Day." He was never boring. - - Clark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:20:14 -0400 From: Bob.Muller/GV/FD/FluorCorp@fluordaniel.com Subject: Re: joni covers on tape tree #8, etc. (jc) a review Patrick chimes: <> I'll chime in! This was indeed a hefty weekend of new Joni music for me! When I got home from Jersey I had received my tt#8 - I had already heard some of it courtesy of hangin' out with Brian (a branch) up in Jersey. But I hadn't heard the "Back to the Garden" show - HOLY COW! First off, just the quality of the recording blew me away! Truly a professional recording job! And Joni IS in top form, and the addition of Mark Isham is also noteworthy - his trumpet accents throughout are really affecting; nothing against Chris Botti, but I can definitely tell the difference between the two. The inclusion of "No Apologies" is also nice, as is the steamy "Summertime"...frankly, I've heard SO many versions of some of the others now, (BSN, Crazy Cries, Magdalene Laundries) that the different tunes really stand out. Joni's voice is awesome for this show, she takes a lot of notes up instead of laying low (like on Woodstock, "he was walking along the ROAD", on some of the shows her voice didn't have the strength to hit it but here she does, and that confidence is very telling. As far as the tribute tape, I like that too. Like I've said, I'm a sucker for covers, especially covers that give a song a diffferent treatment, which this release CERTAINLY does! The arrangements are so radically different from what you're used to, the first time 'round with this tape is a little tricky. But it's loaded with charms. I like the hard rocking feel of "Free Man in Paris", and the sweet soul version of BSN. The only one that makes me run is the Oingo-Boingo-like "You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio". I think it's dreadful, but who knows, maybe it'll grow on me in time. All the bonuses are great and appreciated as well. I also gave up on getting my JTOJM from the internet and found it in a local store that specializes in folk & jazz- they had (2) copies, in fact. (They only have 1 now :~D) I've played it a couple of times, haven't had the chance to really give it a serious listen-to. We had friends over Saturday night and cooked out on the deck, and the strains of David Lahm & orchestra were coming through the oak and the bamboo trees...I do enjoy the variety of instrumentation that takes the lead on various songs, harmonica, trumpet, vibes. I was also impressed by the selections - one wouldn't typically thing of a jazz arrangement of an acapella song (The Fiddle & The Drum), so the choices too are very inspired. Great band, great CD. I'll spit out a more detailed review later, and if I ever do get the one that was backordered, someone will get a free copy at Ashara's! In the meantime, Mr. Lahm, you get busy on Volume II...;~) So all in all, a great weekend of lots of new Joni music! Very nice! Amen to what Patrick said about thanks to Simon!!! You have done much to spread a lot of Joni-joy across the marbled bowling ball... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:15:28 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: NJC Junk food. colin, three meals a day is bad for your sugar levels [which affect your moods and energy] and your "discipline". most nutritionists recommend six meals a day: breakfast, lunch, tea, dinner and two snacks. you really have to work your diet out with a nutritionist and/or a doctor. but my guess is that you're diet is low on proteins. proteins make you feel less hungry and they also send the right message to the brain: burn fat and not muscle tissue. this is specially important when you're not exercising regularly. if you have a sedentary life style and you don't eat a lot of proteins, your brain gets the idea that you're starving. so it automatically puts all the fat on reserve [mainly in the thigh and bum area!!!] and starts using the muscle tissue for fuel. then you lose volume [until the next time you eat junk] but you stay fat. i know this explanation is over-simplified [i don't have a degree in nutrition or anything], but it works basically that way. by the way, i'm overweight too. wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:43:56 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: challenge to British JMDLers John has those sort of connections. he just phoned me so i asked him to find out what he can and perhaps he can fix it for us to get in on it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:43:35 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: joni covers on tape tree #8, etc. (jc) a review The whole tribute tape made me sick except for Songs To Aging... which I thought was pretty good. I loved Claire Martin's version of Be Cool... very smokin'! I think I may have to look into her stuff. Kanata was also fantastic-even though I'm tired of hearing stuff from this tour. It's the only version of DJRD that she plays completely on the tour which makes this one special. Thanks Simon and Jerry for these tapes! Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net http://home.revealed.net/Harpua http://jmdl.com/guitar/mark "This conformity factory is now closed!" -Homer Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:51:09 -0400 From: waytoblu@mindspring.com Subject: Atlanta birthday show... I know it has been awhile but I meant to post this last year and somehow never got around to it. Anyway, I attended Joni's birthday show last November in Atlanta. I had found out about it by chance on Z93. Up until then I had thought I would never get a chance to see her perform. I would often tell people that she was probably the only person I would pay $100 to see. Fortunately the tickets weren't quite that much. By some twist of fate, I ended up with front and center tickets...I think they were on the fifth row. I hadn't known it was her birthday...I either found out the day before the concert or the day of. I tried to think of something to get for her.... Later that evening I had some dinner with some friends who were going with me to the show. We actually ended up getting there late...I think we walked in during Night Ride Home. I was immediately spellbound...her performance seemed very magical to me...after all these years of listening to her on records and cd's, I was finally getting a chance to see her live, in person. Several people began laying bouqets of roses on the stage. But I had gotten her something a little different. If you look at the concert review of the Atlanta show on the Joni Mitchell website, you will see she is holding some flowers, a stuffed tiger, and a card. That was the present I had gotten her-- a tiger, some flowers, and a birthday card. There are so many times when you wish you could tell someone you admire how much you appreciate them and everything they have done. That I was able do so made me feel wonderful and grateful for such an opportunity. The whole experience of going to that show was incredibly inspirational and has definately stuck in my mind. Victor Atlanta musician ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:07:35 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Waterbound? (NJC) Heather wrote: >Natalie did do a little sing along with the audience in which every refrain >ended "down in North Carolina". She said it was tune they used to sing >when she was little. You kind of make up verses as you go along. Sounds >like some sort of standard from those parts. Was it "Waterbound, and I can't get home, Waterbound, and I can't get home, Waterbound, and I can't get home, Down in North Carolina" ? That's pretty well known in old-time music circles. ############################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" *NEW* website at: http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" (Website soon!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:45:44 +1000 From: "Takats, Angela" Subject: re: Sisostowbell Lane Hmmm, I'm still off with the pixies, flying over green hills, after reading Lisa's post: <> <<"We have a rocking chair,somedays we rock and stare at the woodlands and the grasslands and the badlands cross the river,sometimes we do ,we like the view" I thought I do that!all the time.I sit on my screened in front porch sometimes in the wee morning hours when the sun is just coming up,or the sun is going down and just stare at the trees and bushes ,shrubs,flowers,and the acre of wild growth in front of my house.>> How lucky you are to live in such a beautiful place....I could almost hear the birds chirping and smell the native flowers. Sounds like the best relief after a hard day at work. Joni really loved and described vividly so many landscapes and environments. I'm glad you can now connect with such a beautiful song - it's so "floaty" and "dreamy" isn't it...lets us all imagine we are sitting on your front porch! Thanks for letting us join you there Lisa! <> I can't think of a specific song that I didn't like and then liked due to 'life changes'.....but I spose there are little moments when a song will gain more meaning than it did before, because of an experience.... "the sun poured in like butterscotch".....my boyfriend had a room in a dorm at uni that got full sunlight in the morning. It had bright yellow curtains and "Chelsea Morning" really reminds me of waking up next to him, with the room full of a warm yellow-ness. Happy days... And "there's a crow flying dark and ragged tree to tree, as black as the highway that's leading me"....reminds me of the many trips my boyfriend and I made to uni, past dry yellow fields with lonely dying trees standing frozen in the wind...we'd often see black crows circling above the plains, against deep blue stormy skies...that song has so much mood, it's very dark and will always bring back images from uni road trips thru the dry country side....SIGH Thoughts Ange Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:29:13 -0400 From: patrick leader Subject: more on diebenkorn (njc) debra, i really enjoyed your thoughts on abstract expressionism and the boho dance. good stuff. i hope you saw in my later post that i have been moved by rothko, in small doses, and hope to be again. today i got a birthday package from my sweetheart of a sister which included an article from the sf chronicle previewing the diebenkorn show, which was at sfmoma last winter. talk about synchronicity. a couple of things jumped out, even more so in the context of your posts. the article says: >diebenkorn was never a showy intellectual painter. he wasn't interested in staking out a theoretical position of now big, or little, or complex, or minimal, or three-dimensional, or no-dimensional a painting could be according to the rules of the avant-garde. his idol was, after all, matisse, the great modern conservative who once said that a painting should be like a comfortable armchair into which a person could sink after a hard day at the office. you wrote and wrote: >I enjoy Richard Diebenkorn's work. His palette is like a cool breeze. And I really like the way he divides the areas in his paintings. >Picasso didn't have a clue about how to use color, so right away I don't like his work too much. Color is what gets to me, going right to the gut, and I respond to the work of any artist that's known as a "colorist." Drawing can be learned (although it's easier for some people than others), but using color expressively is an ingrained natural ability. Henri Matisse is the absolute best at using color, and I think his work will be around for centuries, bingo! i'd been warming to diebenkorn's work for a long time but the retrospective in dc cemented it, for me. he was a master with color! when you look at the later abstractions, the ocean park series, it's just subtle variations in the composition but a new palette each time, and never a misstep. like ringing the changes, over and over again, always a new possibility. the more i look at paintings, the more obvious it is to me when the painter is inept with color. diebenkorn had the stuff. i don't know if i agree with you that the ability is ingrained; it's obvious to me now that diebenkorn learned some possibilities of color from matisse. why not the best? actually, diebenkorn was never very respected in his lifetime, first because he was a west-coast painter when ny was the center of the universe, then when l.a. had some gravitas, he had moved to nor cal. and indeed, during his major years of creation, the '60s and the '70s, abstract oil paintings were pretty unwelcome. even now, as the article says: >most of the artworld is still heavily into theory (cutting-edge sociology and the like), strategy (intellectually justifiable careerism) and being "culturally transgressive" (behaving badly enough to get noticed). and most of the art world isn't at all into the quietly courageous stylistic shifts within an overall mode of painting that retains the same subtle feel over time. (i think this guy has nailed it!) i guess that's enough from me. sorry to waste so much njc bandwidth, but there are plenty of artlovers on this list who might find pleasure in this man's work, as i have. patrick np - 'garden' show - black crow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:17:11 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: more on diebenkorn (njc) Patrick wrote: > i don't know if i agree with you that the ability is ingrained; it's > obvious to me now that diebenkorn learned some possibilities of color from > matisse. why not the best? I first learned the possibilities of color from my 64 crayon Crayola set. ;-) I recall that Joni has also admitted something to the same effect. > actually, diebenkorn was never very respected in his lifetime, first > because he was a west-coast painter when ny was the center of the universe, > then when l.a. had some gravitas, he had moved to nor cal. and indeed, > during his major years of creation, the '60s and the '70s, abstract oil > paintings were pretty unwelcome. even now, as the article says: Finally a slight inference to our beloved surfer Venice Beach bohos and elder statesmen, Ed Moses, (the still incredibly gorgeous) Ed Rusha and Billy Al Bengston! Not to mention our adopted native Hockney. > >most of the artworld is still heavily into theory (cutting-edge sociology > and the like), strategy (intellectually justifiable careerism) and being > "culturally transgressive" (behaving badly enough to get noticed). and > most of the art world isn't at all into the quietly courageous stylistic > shifts within an overall mode of painting that retains the same subtle feel > over time. > > (i think this guy has nailed it!) I loved reading this, Patrick. > i guess that's enough from me. sorry to waste so much njc bandwidth, but > there are plenty of artlovers on this list who might find pleasure in this > man's work, as i have. No apologies, I enjoyed it very much. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:35:45 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Atlanta birthday show... In a message dated 6/14/99 6:48:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, waytoblu@mindspring.com writes: << Later that evening I had some dinner with some friends who were going with me to the show. We actually ended up getting there late...I think we walked in during Night Ride Home. >> Victor, You got there late? I stopped reading your post at this point and refused to read any further. You got there late? Unbelievable. Tell the truth, you were really going to see Dylan, weren't you? ;>) Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:29:08 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: challenge to British JMDLers > John has those sort of connections. he just phoned me so i asked him to find out > what he can and perhaps he can fix it for us to get in on it. You go, colin!! I just learned that someone on another list posted about seeing Joni at the Seal concert in Toronto. This person said Joni looked very beautiful and young and was most sweet, chatted and gave an autograph. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:01:44 -0400 From: waytoblu@mindspring.com Subject: re: atlanta birthday show Paul...if you would read the rest of the message you would find the answer to your question. Quite honestly, after Joni's performance, I remember thinking I really didn't care particularly whether I saw Dylan or not, that anything he did could not equal to what I had just experienced, and that apparently, Joni liked the tiger I had gotten for her enough to take it with her from the stage, and that she was probably reading the card that I had gotten her which she also took with her. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:02:35 -0400 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: Re: Waterbound? (NJC) At 04:07 PM 6/14/99 -0700, Steve Dulson wrote: >Was it > >"Waterbound, and I can't get home, >Waterbound, and I can't get home, >Waterbound, and I can't get home, >Down in North Carolina" ? > >That's pretty well known in old-time music circles. > > YES ... that's it! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:03:31 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: atlanta birthday show In a message dated 6/14/99 9:59:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, waytoblu@mindspring.com writes: << Paul...if you would read the rest of the message you would find the answer to your question. >> No thanks, not interested. I'm still having a hard time believing anyone could stroll in late to Joni's set after all you said before about wanting to see her. That also means you missed our JMDL group unfurling the 16-foot Happy Birthday banner from the right side of the floor, about six to 10 rows deep. If you'd seen us, you might have joined us in going back to the Ritz-Carlton after her set and getting to meet and talk with Joni for about an hour. But you were late.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:09:38 EDT From: Ashara@aol.com Subject: Ashara's bath (NJC) Chris, being hard of "seeing" so to speak, wrote: << When I first saw this subject, I thought it said "After Ashara's BATH." My first thought was, "Boy, people on the list post about anything on their minds!" I started reading the post and realized what was going on. I wondered, for just a minute, about the festivities Ashara has planned for after the bath.... >> Then Janet snickered in with: <> Geez, I can't believe it! I go away for 5 days, and the list goes to hell in a handbasket! LOL!! Just to set the record straight now that I'm back and can defend myself......I bathe once every three weeks whether I need it or not!!! :-P Hugs, Ashara {still giggling} ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:15:49 +1000 (EST) From: michaelb@coolgold.com.au (Michael) Subject: Whats in a name njc Hi All Cruel but true When I was 7 or 8 we lived next door to the Kerr family.They had 2 daughters named Sonia and Gina.Their son however got stuck with Wayne. Michael http://www.coolgold.com.au/~michaelb/index.html michaelb@coolgold.com.au Either we are alone in the universe ...........Or we're not............ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:14:24 EDT From: Ashara@aol.com Subject: Fundraiser/Jonifest/Raffle Update FUNDRAISER UPDATE: To date, $1489 has been raised for Wally, which represents 42 JMDL contributers. To go by Les' figures, that there are 585 people on the JMDL, and means that 7.5% of the list has contributed so far. I am SO excited that we have raised so much already!! You are all AMAZING, and should be incredibly pleased as a community. Remember, the MOST important thing to remember about this fundraiser is PARTICIPATION!! Even if you can only afford to give $1, if 50 people put $1 in an envelope, and sent it to me, that would be 50 more dollars towards Wally! JONIFEST UPDATE: There is no more room at Chez Ashara's as far as sleeping accomodations for the Jonifest. Please know that you are still VERY welcome to join the party, but will have to use one of the hotels/motels that are on the information list. If you need more info, send a blank message to: < info-laborday@jmdl.com > REMINDER: **PLEASE** get all your information (check for Wally, picture, and questionnaire) to me as soon as possible. The end of June and beginning of July is the time the kid's are in camp, and I will have some time to get this shindig really organized. Once the end of July rolls around, it will be strictly family time for the next 4 weeks. So.....please don't wait til the last minute. It will help me out a lot!! Thanks! :-) RAFFLE UPDATE: LOTS of really wonderful goodies have come in for the raffles, and are continuing to arrive every day!!! Some of the new items: LOTS of JMDL t-shirts, and denim shirts, 2 "Jazz Takes on Joni Mitchell," not to mention 4 other CD's/tapes from our own wonderful David Lahm, a CD of lister Paul Castle's "Hold out for Summer," (It is great!!!!) 5 beautiful CD's from lister Linda Worster, "Different From the Rest," a Complete Poems and Lyrics book, several "surprises," lots more Joni 45's, 5 incredibly beautiful Martini glasses handpainted by none other than Kakki from LA, and several CD's for our "Someone's Dregs are Someone Else's Treasure" raffle, (or "Someone's Dregs are Someone Else's Dregs" raffle!) That's it for now! E-mail me with any questions. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:28:52 -0400 From: patrick leader Subject: one reason why nosy jmdlers might imagine that james is 'carey' (jc) i'm really surprised no one else has brought this up. in the october '70 bbc concert with joni and james taylor (one of the best gifts the tape tree system ever gave me), joni introduces 'carey': 'this is a song about a friend of mine from matalla... a friend of mine from london, and los angeles, and north carolina...' and hearing the on-stage warmth between her and james both before and after this song, it's obvious who she's talking about. i don't know if she wrote the song about james, but it's clear that she associated the song with him at this point. and she had JUST gotten back from crete. i love the moment, later in the concert, where one says, 'it's comfortable having you up here on stage with me' and the other agrees. i don't know or care where their relationship was at this point, i just love they shared this snapshot with their audience. patrick np - james - going to carolina ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:29:35 +1000 From: "Takats, Angela" Subject: next joni tribute in Sydney HELLO Listers, Some of you may already know, but just incase...the next joni tribute night in Sydney, will be held on Thursday the 12th of August at "The Basement". YAY - - Ange Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:32:44 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: TT #8 Covers & Leonard Cohen (Long) Let me preface this diatribe by saying that I am most grateful to Jody & Scott, my tape tree branches who made me Tape Tree 8. Hope you read this, Jody, because our computer did some weird thing and now I don't know where my old e-mails are to send you a personal thank you! Joni is just great (my only wish is that she'd tell a few more stories because I love to listen to her). I'm so glad to finally hear her rendition of "Stormy Weather" too. Beautiful. But, I do have a gripe, On June 9's digest, Deb Messling wrote: Whew! And I thought I was the only one who's been listening to this and cringing! I was going to ask everyone what they thought. Then I thought I don't want to insult anyone who thinks these covers are really great. Then I thought, ha! Get an opinion! "Back to the Garden" IMO should be buried in the garden (a la "Rear Window") I've listened to quite a lot of it and am thinking, have these people ever listened to Joni before? Do they understand the material? Did they understand there was music written to go with the vocals? I don't know who the artists are (I keep meaning to look it up on Wally's site). Whoever sings "Beat of Black Wings" does most of it in a sort of nursery rhyme style and at the very end starts to get that this is an angst-ridden little number. "You Turn Me On I'm A Radio" in country?? I know it's a fun sort of song but this is just yuk! I'm still looking forward to Annie Lenox (now I've forgotten what she covers). She may give hope. I've been complaining about this tape for two days to my husband and brother-in-law who aren't all that familiar with Joni (except what I've subjected them to -- PWWAM twice) and I keep meaning to play the original then the cover to demonstrate (they're both heavy metal fans, so I'm not sure how long they'd stick around for that...) Then the other day we heard Sheryl Crow doing a Guns N Roses cover ("Sweet Child of Mine"). Now, I'm not a G&R fan by any means, but I tell you, she did a good cover of it and seemed to really understand the spirit of the song, something these Joni covers miss by a mile. Hope I haven't offended too many (I'm sure I'll hear about it if I have. Excuse me while I duck under the desk with my bottled water and freeze-dried food). Next on my long-winded agenda, a mention of Joni's old pal, Leonard Cohen. In the San Diego Union-Tribune Sunday paper, there was this in the Arts "Action!" section of what's upcoming: Headline: Jared and Jake, Leonard and Kurt. Jared Leto is set and Jake Gyllenhaal [sorry, not familiar with either of them] is in final negotiations to star in New Line Cinema's "A Leonard Cohen Afterworld" ... Leto and Gyllenhaal will play best friends who travel to Seattle during the weekend of grunge rocker Kurt Cobain's death in 1994. The pair use the Nirvana frontman's memorial vigil as an excuse to escape their dreary lives in Las Vegas. They embark on a journey of self-discovery riddled with drug dealers, prostitutes and a group of thugs hot on their trail." Sounds, uh, interesting. My question is: Where is the Leonard Cohen tie-in? Maybe he could be like the poetic/prophetic savior who gets them out of the mess ... I mean he is living in a monastery now. Finally, I was so glad to hear of Joni's upcoming art show in Saskatoon and kind of laughed at the gallery manager's description of what type of artist they wanted to feature. Sounded to me sort of like they snagged Joni first and wrote the description later. Whatever gets her among us again! I will now return to lurking ... Best to all, Lindsay Moon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:56:19 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Drum Kit for Joni Fest (NJC) Terry wrote: "I could play the drums if no one else comes forward. I'm not great, but I can hold my own. Only problem would be lugging a kit on the plane. " Hi Terry- Great, please do come. I have a friend in the biz up that way and he said he would help me out with a digital piano if I need it and I assume he would have access to a rental kit as well. I will check that one. Hope you can go. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:07:54 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Happy Birthday Hunny! (NJC) Susan- Sounds like you did almost exactly what you wanted to on your B-Day, I hope it was happy anyways. May this year be a good one for you and all your wishes come true. Altho you peeing thru someone else's willy is somewhat of a wierd pic for me, but thanx for the visual. Love Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:45:01 -0700 From: Susan Chaloner Subject: Re: NJC Junk food. catman wrote: > Oh and I also take > loads of vitamins daily-1000mg C, calcium, cod liver oil, b complex and > a multivit and min. I bet you're trying to avoid gastroenterologists ;~) Well, I'm no doctor but I do have 30 years experience with the small intestine...the human engine: the place where we absorb our nutrients...You might consider checking your vitamin intake if you haven't already done so...If one's vitamins are out of balance they can actually interfere with one's nutrient uptake...Call me square but I prefer food...any food that makes me feel good...and that's usually junk food for me as well...I'm underweight...I'll have 2 filet o' fish, a side of thighs and a choclate shake, thankyou very much! ;~) > If anyone can either explain why I get so tired and ratty and tearful; > when i eat well It's probably just that you and I are pre-evolved for the year 2000 darlin' ;~D Meet me in the drive thru ;~D Susan L.A. Honey McBabe-"...I want to be on Muzak, while I'm dining on a Big Mac..."-Four Bitchin' Babes: darlins I do apologize for the usage...I'm sure you wouldn't approve ;~D ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #260 ************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe joni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?