From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V4 #194 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk JMDL Digest Saturday, May 1 1999 Volume 04 : Number 194 TapeTree #8 is ready to roll. To sign up go to: http://www.jmdl.com/trading ------- Join the Joni Mitchell Internet Community Glossary project. Send a blank message to for all the details. ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- last five purchases in reverse order (NJC) [patrick leader ] Re: last five purchases in reverse order (NJC) [RMuRocks@aol.com] Re: Recent Purchases (NJC) [CaTGirl627@aol.com] NJC ban guns, solve the problem? evil white guys? [Kleronomos@aol.com] O'Keeffe show in SF-NJC [DARICEM@sfpl.lib.ca.us] Re: MOST THOUGHT PROVOKING (NJC) [David Wright ] Re: Hello-HA! DJRD (SJC) [David Wright ] Re: Guns and war poll (NJC) ["Mark or Travis" ] Joni knew this [catman ] Re: Yugoslavia Update (NJC -- Long) [catman ] Re: Insular NJC [catman ] That Ashara... [Michael Paz ] Re: Great children's songs (NJC) [kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave)] Fwd: Support NJC [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: HE.LP--TOM WAITS LYRIC needed! (JC!) [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: preaching to converted,,,,, and recent 5 albumsNJC [CaTGirl627@aol.co] Re: NJC Bomb In Gay Bar (NJC cont.) [Gellerray@aol.com] quick review of a todd rundgren tribute album i just picked up(NJC) [patr] Mark Isham on BET on Jazz (NJC) [Janet Hess ] Re: quick review of a todd rundgren tribute album(NJC) ["Kakki" Subject: last five purchases in reverse order (NJC) 1 and 2) a little night music - orig soundtrack & for the love of todd - tribute to rundgren 3)bryan thomas - radio plastic jennifer 4) new world jazz - michael tilson thomas conducts the new world symphony in adams, bernstein, gershwin, stravinsky etc. 5) a three-way tie, 3 for $5 on the street -caron wheeler - uk blak -natalie cole collection -riuchi sakamoto - beauty ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:18:49 EDT From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: preaching to converted,,,,, and recent 5 albumsNJC Last 5 albums: Jonatha Brooke Live Blue (only had cassette) CPR Michael Hedges- Torched The Chieftains ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:20:21 +0100 From: "Richard Thomas" Subject: Re: last five purchases (SJC) Here are my last five purchases:- Chaka Khan - Come 2 My House Joni - Clouds Joni - Hejira (4th copy - I keep givin' 'em away to newly converted fans Henry Charles Litolff - Concerto Syphonique No 2 & No 4 Stevie Wonder - Fulfillingness First Finale Cheers Rick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:51:02 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: MOA Richard Thomas wrote: > Here are my last five purchases:- > > > > Joni - Hejira (4th copy - I keep givin' 'em away to newly converted > fans > Reminds me of the Christmas after MOA was released; everyone on my gift list got it as a present! (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:46:02 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Re: last five purchases in reverse order (NJC) In a message dated 4/30/99 5:12:16 PM Central Daylight Time, trxschwa@bway.net writes: << orig soundtrack & for the love of todd - tribute to rundgren >> Patrick, how about a review on this one? I love the Runt and am also a cover fan... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:51:31 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Recent Purchases (NJC) In a message dated 4/30/1999 4:40:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, David.Wright@oberlin.edu writes: << I wondering what recent 5 purchases the Listers had in the past month... Let me think...my most recent purchases (actually made over the past two or three months): >> Cawtgirls where 1. David Lahm- Jazz ttakes on Joni Mitchell 2. Joni Mitchell- Gold Blue 3. Joni Mitchell- limited edition- Night Ride Home 4.XTC- Apple Venus 5. Michael Hedges- Torched *all proceeds from this Cd go to his children- everyone should get this. It is his last album that was made from demos after his untimely death. It is a great CD! Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:05:40 EDT From: Kleronomos@aol.com Subject: NJC ban guns, solve the problem? evil white guys? clark wrote: <> It evades me how being male or white (or for that matter, prosperous or influential) has anything at odds with citizenship in the U.S. I happen to be a white male, prosperity to me is a state of mind, and I do feel quite rich, but I struggle to keep the bills paid each month, and work my tail off--- as for influential, I don't have wide influence, but people who know me listen to me, as I do to them). I would not vote to ban guns. I don't think a responsible citizen should be stripped of defensive weapons, or hunting arms. In our anguish over the senseless death of these children, we all want to do SOMETHING but wisdom must be used, not rhetoric, if what we do is to achieve the desired result. Kids (or adults) who get it in there heads (and hearts) to cause damage, wreak havoc, or commit mayhem against their perceived persecutors will use what is available. We're not getting to the root of the problem by disarming Joe and Jane American, we're only making things worse. It's easily demonstrated that in states which licence citizens to carry concealed, crime decreases. They've interviewed felons in prison, who nearly universally admit that they are more concerned with getting shot by their "victims" than by police, in states which allow self defence with firearms. It is a strong deterant to crime. These kids would have used fertilizer, or anthrax, or acid, or poison... they will find something. Apparently, they had a 9mm, which is not a hunting arm. But there were 2 shotguns and (I think) another long gun... hunting arms. Do you really think you can ban such weapons? I want to do something too. I want the hate to stop. I want love to prevail. I want to get back to "the garden." But if you "disarm America," you'll only disarm the good guys (or at least most of them). If you think it's bad now, you haven't seen anything yet. My heart aches for those kids, for their parents, and friends. And even for the two boys (and THEIR parents and friends) who became so insane that they could do such a thing, and then to end their own young lives. Do you love your kids even more today, parents? I didn't think it possible, but I do. And my friends and family. I am heartened that this country HAS been so profoundly moved by this incident. I was afraid that we might already be too calloused to violence. Perhaps we might love one another more as a result of this tragedy. I read (I think it was) Time magazine on the subject, and cried over the stories of faith and goodness and heroism that were told by some of the folks who were present there. Things seem so wrong, but in the midst of absolute insanity and evil, there was goodness and strength and wisdom and love. And that's all I've got to say about that. from Romans, chapter 12 17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:05:45 -0700 From: DARICEM@sfpl.lib.ca.us Subject: O'Keeffe show in SF-NJC I have just spoken to the museum here-tentative dates are Feb 19-May 14, 2000. So there is time for planning. Darice ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:33:10 -0400 (EDT) From: David Wright Subject: Re: MOST THOUGHT PROVOKING (NJC) MDESTE1@aol.com wrote: > > While the kids diary spoke to taunting and ostracization virtually no > one from the school is even describing any and all contributions that > they may have made to this aspect of the matter. I think this (getting a viewpoint from the school itself) is important. The New York Times published part of a long interview with eight Columbine students today, which was also reprinted in the local paper. Of course it's a partial view, but still a much closer and more insightful one than many, and I hope everyone reads it (sorry, I don't have a URL) as they address some very interesting things -- including what some of the "taunting and ostracization" was that went on at the school. As for the following... > In other words liberals...have a tremendous problem ever seing > themselves as responsible for anything negative or bad while at the same > time ***having no problem raising the level of personal intolerance of > those who disagree with them to immediate incendiary terminology.*** [emphasis mine] Wait....is this from the same person who wrote me not long ago (see digest V4 #163) telling me to "save my phony righteousness for my college reunion" (whatever that means; it doesn't sound nice, though) and "get back to my Hillary-for-president phone tree" and that "left wing extremists are just intellectually masturbating"? Yes, it is! So, Marcel, are you one of those liberal hypocrites? Or just some other type of hypocrite? - --David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:45:19 -0400 (EDT) From: David Wright Subject: Re: Hello-HA! DJRD (SJC) Eric Taylor wrote: > > Joni said that it was PP which caused her to grasp "all notes resolve > back to middle C" [snip] > ...This is among the most important revelations I've ever realized, > on many levels. Deep down it means to me that everything is equal. "'No!' Meg cried... '*Like* and *equal* are not the same thing at all!'" (from _A Wrinkle in Time_, Madeleine L'Engle) ;) - --David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:52:23 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Guns and war poll (NJC) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Kakki To: ; Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Guns and war poll (NJC) > Bob noted: > > > I think that's always the case; we want to "niche" everyone and the > > truth is that we're all individuals and basically un-nicheable (a new > > word that I just made up...). > > Precisely my point and one of the reasons I tend to see red when I see > sweepingly general labels thrown around in discussions on certain issues > rather than thoughtful and objective, person-to-person dialog. > > Kakki > > Thank you, Ms. Kakki & Mister Bob! Mark in Seattle who will be having dinner with our own Leslie Mixon in just a few hours. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 02:09:41 +0100 From: catman Subject: Insular NJC I am beginning to wonder if it is true that only what happens in the USA is of any importance to Americans. Very little has been said about the Balkans war. And NOTHING about the three bombs targeted at Blacks, Asians and Gays here in London. The Colorado/gun thread has run and run(as have previous shooting threads on this list). Yet no one seems to have anything to say. Maybe if it happened in the USA.... - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 02:19:05 +0100 From: catman Subject: Joni knew this Evangelist Evil's Agent From her lyrics, I think Joni knew this one - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 02:22:41 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Yugoslavia Update (NJC -- Long) The situation is awful. I too am not sure about the bombing. I believe all killing to be wrong except when the killing of one or a few saves the lives of many. Like I think it would have been opkay to kill Hitler and his henchmen rather than see millions die. It is as well to bear in mind that teh serbian people have not sttod aganst their govt wehilst it salughtered the ethnic Albanians. As in germany all those years ago. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:41:39 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Insular NJC catman wrote: > I am beginning to wonder if it is true that only what happens in the USA > is of any importance to Americans. > Very little has been said about the Balkans war. And NOTHING about the > three bombs targeted at Blacks, Asians and Gays here in London. > The Colorado/gun thread has run and run(as have previous shooting > threads on this list). Yet no one seems to have anything to say. Maybe > if it happened in the USA.... Colin, You have a point. The US is parochial as it comes. And yet, please understand that the London bombings are news for me in a real new sense, haven't had time to digest that yet. The NATO action leaves me very conflicted. I wish I knew what I thought about it. I have been relying on Winfried's commentaries for he has been saying a lot of what I feel. Genocide must be stopped. The whole world did nothing for Bosnia until way too late. Yet going to war violates what I believe. And now that the bombing is going in its fifth week, I am not sure if we are closer or further from a viable solution. Returning to London, I would imagine the London bombing has the significance for you that Matthew Shepherd's killing had for me. I sometimes am silent in the face of brutality, sometimes not. This London thing appalls me for many, many reasons. To the haters, we are all the enemy. As a gay man (ok, now I am out to everyone if I wasn't before) I know that I am the enemy for reasons that I cannot anymore fathom. You are the enemy. In London, Asians and gays and blacks are the enemy. Jocks and minorities were the enemy at Columbine. Women are often the enemy. Minorities are the enemy. Ethnic Albanians are the enemy. In the face of all this repeated violence, I am for the moment silent. I will find my voice (fair warning to everyone...) but as for tonight, my good friend, I am silent except for prayers for those who are the victims, those who are the enemy, those who are scared. I wish I had more to offer right now. (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 03:02:15 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Insular NJC It has been almost two weeks since I first wrote about the bomb in Brixton, a predominantly black part of Londo. The second went off in Brick Lane, a predominantly Asian part of London. Tonights bomb went off in Old Compton Street, West End, in a Gay bar. 73 people injured, many seriously, burned and with limbs blown off. Two were killed outright. Fortunately the first two bombs did not kill. And one of our most loved tv persoanaliti was murdered with a single bullet to the head on her doorstep. It has the hallmarks of a hit but no one knows why yet. Maybe it is like Vanna White being murdered. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:29:30 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: That Ashara... Hello from Jazz Fest 1999. That Ashara is at it again! She must be trying to get me divorced. Does anyone know a good lawyer? Marsha? My wife will kill me if I say anything resembling New England, Joni Fest, etc. Right now we have plans to vacation earlier in the summer in Austin, Texas then on to Colorado. Plans are still formulating. I did sign up for the list though cause God knows I can ride the fence with the best of them and besides, WHO KNOWS. And I HAVE learned so many new Joni songs to sing. Oh God help me. Trying to calm myself down Michael NP-Typical Situation-DMB Typical! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:34:21 -0400 (EDT) From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) Subject: Re: Great children's songs (NJC) Also, "Monkey & The Engineer" by Jesse Fuller and "There Ain't No Bugs On Me" by traditional gdave - ----------------------------------------------------------------- DaveBase @ www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2349/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:33:29 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Support NJC - --part1_1da6943d.245bd009_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/30/1999 2:37:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ReddKaat@aol.com writes: << Hi and MM all! I recieved this today, And I did call and it is real.......... ReddKaat............. Please call this number, it only takes 5 seconds of your time. And this is very real! 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LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:45:17 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: preaching to converted,,,,, and recent 5 albumsNJC In a message dated 4/30/1999 6:27:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TerryM2442@aol.com writes: << Jonatha Brooke Live Blue (only had cassette) CPR Michael Hedges- Torched The Chieftains >> Wow...We have similar tastes my dear! ( or wanted the same ones) I do want to get CPR, what did you think of it? Anybody else? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 00:17:03 EDT From: Gellerray@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Bomb In Gay Bar (NJC cont.) In a message dated 99-04-30 16:05:40 EDT, you write: << The third nail bomb to go off in London has gone off tonight in a Gay bar. At least two are dead and over 30 are injured. The previous two bombs went off in a predominantly black area and an Asian area. >> and have they any idea of who is doing this? do they think it is the same person, or persons? and over what period of time has this been happening? rpg ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 00:20:52 -0400 From: patrick leader Subject: quick review of a todd rundgren tribute album i just picked up(NJC) hey bob, i saw a little blurb about this in pulse magazine about 10 years ago, clipped it and saved it but i sure never expected to see this in a shop (tower now has a tribute section, for what that's worth). todd is one of my hugest loves, i think i have everything by him and utopia (including all three nazz albums) except for 'the individualist'. most of the '70s and 80s albums i know by heart. what's good about the tribute is that the songs are all well performed and they are just as fine as i've always thought. he is one of the great pop songwriters. the ONLY artist whose name i recognize is mitch easter, i think he was the impetus. he opens the album with a fairly authentic 'international feel'. a lot of the singers have voices similar to todd's, maybe in better shape but without the great go-for-it edge. and a lot of the artists, competent enough, don't really try to rethink the song, so that's a little disappointing. my favorite moments are the ones that don't sound anything like the originals. these include: - -a solo piano and voice version of 'compassion' (from healing, my all-time favorite todd) by missy miller, who sounds a little like holly cole, and approaches the song somewhat like cole approaches joni's 'blue'. just beautiful, it brings a song i love back to life again. - -a slow, swampy version of 'couldn't i just tell ya', by 'the guild'. it's excellent in its own right, and the sort of tinkering i expect from tribute albums. - -an interesting 'the wheel' that also quotes 'just one victory'. (nice to hear real studio production applied to 'wheel', which todd only recorded on 'another live'). this cut also shows one of the strengths of the album, which is that in most cases the rhythm production is better than the originals. i've thought that was his weak link, on a lot of his high-production work. anyway, it's a good listen. soon i'll record choice cuts on a tape for myself, mix in some other toddities, including the 12 minute duet with bonnie tyler, 'lovin' you's a dirty job, but somebody's got to do it'. speaking of toddities, have you heard 'with a twist', his recent album of bossa nova remakes of his songs? his best singing in years. patrick np - missy miller - compassion (t.r.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 01:04:44 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: Mark Isham on BET on Jazz (NJC) Howdy, campers. Just caught a few minutes of Tuck and Patti (I like them bunches) on BET on Jazz and was going to turn the TV off, when who suddenly shows up but Mark Isham! Terrific music...it's shortly after 1 a.m. EDT as I write this, and if you read this message in the next few and get BET on Jazz, tune in. \ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:02:39 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: quick review of a todd rundgren tribute album(NJC) Thanks for the Todd news, Patrick. I love him, too, and now I have one more excuse to buy more CDs, especially this one which really grabbed my attention: >have you heard 'with a twist', his recent album of > bossa nova remakes of his songs? his best singing in years. Ooooooh!!!! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:11:22 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: preaching to converted,,,,, and recent 5 albumsNJC Catgirl asked: >I do want to get CPR, what did you think of it? Anybody else? My favorite album of 1998 - gorgeous - absolutely love it - can't get enough of it. Swear to you that listening to it somehow inspired me to take up my paintbrush again after a few years away. My recent five purchases: 1. Jazz Takes on Joni Mitchell - jmdl'er Lahm 2. Songs of My Youth - jmdl'er Fred Simon 3. 24K Gold Blue - Joni 4. Burn Down the Night - Bill Champlin 5. Last Train to Memphis - Johnny Rivers Kakki NP: CPR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 03:38:10 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Great children's songs (NJC) OOOH I like this mini- thread. I've always loved "My very Good Friend the Sandman", "Winken, Blinken and Nod" [not the Simon Sisters' version but the waltzy one] and "Sleepy Time is a Happy Time". Do you know "My very Good Friend the Sandman"? I've forgotten some of the words: "My very good friend the sandman visits me every night he smiles and he says hello to me when mommy turns down the light My very good friend the sandman carries a tiny ...." what ? I can't remember anymore.... Does anybody remember? This song is kind of creepy too, now that I come to think of it. WallyK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 02:43:29 -0400 (EDT) From: al_date@email.com Subject: Guns, a humanist issue -- VLJC It is to be expected that in a list dedicated to a poet that there would be plenty of anti-gun feelings. Dreaming of bomber jet planes turning into butterflies is something I have engaged in myself, under a puff of smoke. But that was before I became a parent; before I became responsible for somebody other than myself. Once I realized that I would lay down my own life to protect my children, I gained a more realistic attitude about the defense of innocents. I even stopped using recreational drugs which might hamper my ability to react to an emergency situation. I realized that I had to be ready to take action, whatever circumstances might arise--stopped-breathing, drowning, burns, cuts, even defense from criminals. Self-defense is a long subject, but suffice it to say that each person has to decide for themselves what kind of defense they are going to muster. One of those choices, among many, is possession of a firearm, depending on the circumstances. Since a woman has a right to defend her body and her family, she has a right to choose her methodology. It is a simple matter of CHOICE. This is not some utopian fantasy; it is a survival-response to the REAL WORLD, which is not always a nice place. We haven't figured out how to prevent evil; we can only react to it, by whatever means we have available, Sorry to bring the bad news. [And, reminding myself of how much it changed me, I wonder what Joni Mitchell would be like today if she had actually raised her own children. Less childish and less whiny is my guess.] - --Al Date - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V4 #194 ************************** There is now a JMDL tape trading list. Interested traders can get more details at http://www.jmdl.com/trading ------- The Song and Album Voting Booths are open again! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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